One-Eyed Richmond Forum

Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 23, 2012, 11:59:58 AM

Title: Our poor second quarters
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2012, 11:59:58 AM
Someone needs to wake us up at 1/4 time as so far we've lost every 2nd quarter this year.

2012 Quarter Stats

Quarter     W     D      L          For           Against              %
1st            2      0      2      11.15 (81)    11.14 (80)         101.2
2nd           0      0      4      5.15 (45)   14.12 (96)          46.9
3rd           3      0       1     20.11 (131)   13.9  (87)          150.6
4th           2      1       1     13.8  (86)    14.12  (96)           89.6
Total         7      1       8    49.49 (343)  52.47 (359)          95.5


2nd Quarters

R1 Carlton:     2.2  vs  5.5 
R2 Coll'wood:  1.4  vs  3.2
R3 Melbourne: 2.4  vs  3.3
R4 Geelong:    0.5  vs  3.2
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 23, 2012, 01:01:10 PM
Wasn't it last year that we had a rash of poor 1st quarters. HHmmmm....next year poor 3rd q's......2014 - poor last q's......2015 = Flag :cheers
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Coach on April 23, 2012, 02:42:32 PM
maybe in 2015 every quarter will be poo and dimma will be sacked. :outtahere
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: one-eyed on April 30, 2012, 12:27:07 PM
Another poor 2nd quarter costs us another game ...

2012 Quarter Stats

Quarter     W     D      L          For           Against              %
1st            2      0      3      15.17 (107)    16.17 (113)         94.7
2nd           0      0      5     10.17 (77)   20.15 (135)          57.0
3rd           4      0       1     23.16 (154)   14.14  (98)          157.1
4th           2      1       2     15.12  (102)    18.12  (120)           85.0
Total         8      1      11    63.62 (440)  68.58 (466)          94.4


2nd Quarters

R1 Carlton:       2.2  vs  5.5 
R2 Coll'wood:    1.4  vs  3.2
R3 Melbourne:   2.4  vs  3.3
R4 Geelong:      0.5  vs  3.2
R5 West Coast: 5.2  vs  6.3
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 30, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
Actually though it was our 3rd qtr that cost us the game 3-5

There were 3 relatively easy shots that we missed, nail those when we had all the momentum and we go in at 3qtr time at least 18 points up
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Danog on April 30, 2012, 01:07:14 PM
To be fair, we weren't "poor" in the second quarter. Nick Nat and Priddis just went mental with the clearances.
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: one-eyed on April 30, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Our team pressure, accountability and intensity dropped off in the 2nd quarter compared to the other three. The Eagles were waltzing through the midfield linking up and sharing the ball under little pressure. The margin blew out to 25 points which meant we were chasing the game for the rest of the match. The same thing happened against Geelong last week. The odds are against you winning if you are continually playing catch up footy. 
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Jackstar is back again on April 30, 2012, 03:33:59 PM
have just watched the replay twice ( have 2 much spare time )
many mistakes in last 10 minutes
none bigger than Matt White kick in the last 2 mins ,need to hit a target ( 3 free players on the replay inside)
Instead kicked to the pocket in hope
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Coach on April 30, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
have just watched the replay twice ( have 2 much spare time )
many mistakes in last 10 minutes
none bigger than Matt White kick in the last 2 mins ,need to hit a target ( 3 free players on the replay inside)
Instead kicked to the pocket in hope

Back to the magoos for Greg White. Need to upgrade on blokes like him, Nahas, King etc. Our smaller blokes need quality and size.

Combine King & Nahas and you have a bloody good player
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 30, 2012, 05:05:17 PM
have just watched the replay twice ( have 2 much spare time )
many mistakes in last 10 minutes
none bigger than Matt White kick in the last 2 mins ,need to hit a target ( 3 free players on the replay inside)
Instead kicked to the pocket in hope
True Jack. Same thing happened versus Cats. We just need to have the experience of close games and learn from these rushes of blood to start winning these close ones.
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Ekto on April 30, 2012, 05:19:20 PM
have just watched the replay twice ( have 2 much spare time )
many mistakes in last 10 minutes
none bigger than Matt White kick in the last 2 mins ,need to hit a target ( 3 free players on the replay inside)
Instead kicked to the pocket in hope

Whitey's kick was grabbed with both hands by Jack but he couldn't hang on to it.

There may have been OTHER options and some may have been better options, but that kick hit a Tiger.

Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: tony_montana on April 30, 2012, 06:45:29 PM
have just watched the replay twice ( have 2 much spare time )
many mistakes in last 10 minutes
none bigger than Matt White kick in the last 2 mins ,need to hit a target ( 3 free players on the replay inside)
Instead kicked to the pocket in hope

Whitey's kick was grabbed with both hands by Jack but he couldn't hang on to it.

There may have been OTHER options and some may have been better options, but that kick hit a Tiger.

If you can't make accurate comments about something you say you watched TWICE, then why comment......unless you have a not-so hidden agenda against one or more of the Tiger players?

Oops - I also forgot your agenda against the coaches and the officials who won't employ you. Its obvious why they won't.

whoa ekto  :bow
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Penelope on April 30, 2012, 07:00:58 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Coach on April 30, 2012, 07:02:25 PM
Caps were not actually meant to be on there. Apologies to Chris.
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Ekto on April 30, 2012, 07:18:54 PM
Even on the radio tonight, Ox said it was a pity for the Tiges that he didnt look in board, FACT
There probably were other options inboard, but it is subjective as to whether they were better options and Ox is able to draw his own opinions which are respected. I would think that Jack Reiwoldt is a suitable target who demands the footy, just like Richo was. But I am not saying that Jack was necessarily the best option either.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, especially after a close loss.

But you stated that your whipping boy missed a target. Jack put both hands on that ball and was unlucky not to mark it. Your FACTS were wrong.
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: one-eyed on June 18, 2012, 05:48:21 PM
Still an issue for some unknown reason. We've won just 2 out of 12 second quarters this year :-\.

2012 Quarter Stats

Quarter     W     D      L             For              Against                  %
1st            8      0      4       43.42 (300)      33.31 (229)           131.0
2nd          2      0     10      32.34 (234)   44.36 (300)          78.0
3rd           9      0       3       43.45 (303)      36.32  (248)          122.2
4th           6      1       5       45.34  (304)     40.33  (273)          111.4
Total        25      1      22   163.163 (1141) 153.132 (1050)        108.7


2nd Quarters

R1 Carlton:       2.2  vs  5.5 
R2 Coll'wood:    1.4  vs  3.2
R3 Melbourne:   2.4  vs  3.3
R4 Geelong:      0.5  vs  3.2
R5 West Coast: 5.2  vs  6.3
R6 Port Adel:     5.5  vs  1.0
R7 Sydney:       2.3  vs  2.5
R8 Essendon:    2.6  vs  6.5
R9 Hawthorn     4.4  vs  3.6
R10 St Kilda      6.1  vs  6.2
R11 Fremantle   1.1  vs  3.2
R12 GWS          2.5  vs  3.1
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 18, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
Last year it was the first quarter.
This year the second.

Mental thing? Physical thing?

I can't put my finger on it

I think other than the Geelong game which was low scoring, the Essendon game and the umps and us playing dumb footy against Freo it hasn't been integral in us not winning.

The trend in the other games was already set and lets say in the Collingwood game coming out cold after half time cost us not being outscored in the second quarter.

Whilst it is a worry some of those quarters have only been lost by less than a goal.

Against Port our second set up the win but the third quarter we dropped off and gave them a sniff, similar scenario against Sydney the following week after we dominated the first quarter.

I think in other season we have played a quarter or a quarter and a half and fell way badly at least this year we have hung in there and in every game this year in the last quarter we have been close enough if we were good enough and those 1.5 quarter efforts have turned into 2 or 2.5 -3 quarter efforts. We have won a quarter in each game this season so far which is something in under Dimma we haven't done in the first two years so from that measure we have improved IMHO and it has been integral to our development and mental substance of our side.

Also thankfully there is no 8-9 goal quarters against us so far this season which is why our overall % is where it is at this point in time which again goes back to our mental maturity growing within the group and translating to on field results this year.
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: jordie2tivendale on June 19, 2012, 08:18:08 AM
Great points Tucker when we are at the G we always kick city end first quarter if we win the toss
 i think the club uses the crowd for momentum  to the punt road end for the 4th quarter
So it seems strange  that in the second quarter we have stats that low
Title: Tigers tops in premiership quarter (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on June 22, 2012, 12:30:26 PM
After our ordinary 2nd qtrs Dimma must give the boys a spray and rev up in the rooms at half-time so they come out firing in the 3rd.

Tigers tops in premiership quarter
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 22 Jun, 2012



The third quarter of a match has long been known in league football (and some other sports, too) as “the premiership quarter”.

It‘s normally associated with a momentum swing during that term, which results in one side seizing the initiative and going on to win the game, thereby, theoretically, moving a step closer to the ultimate prize - the premiership. 

Analysis of Richmond’s quarter-by-quarter scores throughout the first 12 rounds of the 2012 season shows that the Tigershave performed best, overall, in the so-called premiership quarter.

Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/139243/default.aspx
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Owl on June 22, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
Free kick count is usually pretty loaded against us by half time too lol
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Chuck17 on June 22, 2012, 08:42:02 PM
Free kick count is usually pretty loaded against us by half time too lol

Yep we burst out of the blocks in the first qtr and the umps then try to even it up to half time.
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
And still an issue ... We've won just 2 out of 15 second quarters this year :-\. Might add our last quarters have been poor as well over the past 3 weeks.

2012 Quarter Stats

Quarter     W     D      L             For              Against                  %
1st           10      0      5       57.53 (395)      41.33 (279)           141.6
2nd          2      0     13      38.50 (278)   55.48 (378)          73.5
3rd          11      0       4       53.60 (378)      36.32  (248)          131.7
4th           6      1       8       54.42  (366)     56.44  (380)             96.3
Total        29      1      30   202.205 (1417) 194.160 (1324)      107.0


2nd Quarters

R1 Carlton:       2.2  vs  5.5 
R2 Coll'wood:    1.4  vs  3.2
R3 Melbourne:   2.4  vs  3.3
R4 Geelong:      0.5  vs  3.2
R5 West Coast: 5.2  vs  6.3
R6 Port Adel:     5.5  vs  1.0
R7 Sydney:       2.3  vs  2.5
R8 Essendon:    2.6  vs  6.5
R9 Hawthorn     4.4  vs  3.6
R10 St Kilda      6.1  vs  6.2
R11 Fremantle   1.1  vs  3.2
R12 GWS          2.5  vs  3.1
R14 Adelaide     2.1 vs  5.1
R15 Melbourne  2.6 vs  3.4
R16 Gold Coast  2.1 vs  3.7
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: one-eyed on July 29, 2012, 09:07:17 PM
Make that just two second qtrs we've won this year out of 17  :scream.

2012 Quarter Stats

Quarter     W     D      L             For              Against                  %
1st           11      0      6       64.58 (442)      48.40 (328)           134.8
2nd          2      0     15      41.61 (307)   62.55 (427)          71.9
3rd          12      0       5       61.67 (433)      47.43  (325)          133.2
4th           7      1       9       63.47  (425)     66.46  (442)             96.2
Total        32      1      35   229.233 (1607) 223.184 (1522)      105.6


2nd Quarters

R1 Carlton:       2.2  vs  5.5 
R2 Coll'wood:    1.4  vs  3.2
R3 Melbourne:   2.4  vs  3.3
R4 Geelong:      0.5  vs  3.2
R5 West Coast: 5.2  vs  6.3
R6 Port Adel:     5.5  vs  1.0
R7 Sydney:       2.3  vs  2.5
R8 Essendon:    2.6  vs  6.5
R9 Hawthorn     4.4  vs  3.6
R10 St Kilda      6.1  vs  6.2
R11 Fremantle   1.1  vs  3.2
R12 GWS          2.5  vs  3.1
R14 Adelaide     2.1 vs  5.1
R15 Melbourne  2.6 vs  3.4
R16 Gold Coast  2.1 vs  3.7
R17 North Melb  3.6 vs  4.4
R18 Carlton       0.5 vs  3.3
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: Yeahright on July 30, 2012, 04:15:11 PM
This cost us the game
Title: Re: Our poor second quarters
Post by: eliminator on July 30, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
2nd quarter lapses cost us Suns game, Freo game and Carlton game. Need to play four quarters if we are to improve