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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: USAfootyfanatic on April 26, 2012, 09:14:46 AM
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So, as a relatively new fan I was thinking the other night about RFC. How far do you guys things we are from finals footy? I know there are some issues we need to work out (forwards, Jacko, Edwards) and that our team is still young but would you say in a year or two we should be there? How talented is the team now compared to teams since Richmond's drought started? Sorry for all the newbie questions guys but I'm just really wanting to learn as much as I can about the club.
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I said we would be 1-4 to start this year and still have us making finals. I actually think we are a good show to win on Sunday, so to be 2-3 after playing 4 of the top 5 sides in the first 5 weeks would be massive for us! :pray
If not this season, next season we have to make it.
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Richmond make finals 2012, Mayan calendar restarts, universe implodes on it self. Only John Cusack is safe.
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We have had a really tough start to the year....The good news is that after this week our draw opens up with many winnable games (on paper).
The AFL is a tough competition USAFF...No doubt we have improved on last year however our rivals for the lower rungs of the 8 have also improved.
Dont worry the sun will soon shine on the Richmond football club.
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After this weeks game the competition opens up more for us. The first few weeks are designed to allow the rest of the competition to relax and start to under estimate us. Then we can slowly and quietly start to climb and sneak into the finals while everyone is concentrating on all the teams that peaked too early :P
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Gotta come out this week and win. I'm also concerned about Port the next week. Will be 2 pretty tough games. Hoping Griffiths, Arnot and Elton get some games very very soon.
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We are nowhere near close to competing.
Bottom 4 for 30 years ;D
Just kidding :gotigers
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IMV Finals this year will be a bonus. Have said many times we need everything to go right
But from 2013 onwards we should be making finals
As for a Premiership - play finals consistently and the opportunity is always there is you are good enough. :thumbsup
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Okay, i was kind of thinking along the same lines, that we're close. From the matches i've watched it seems the Tigers are just a few crucial mistakes a game from wins. I also do realize this is a tough draw to start the year out. I'm hoping to see us beat the Eagles in a few days.
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Should be playing finals this year, just sloppy play and lazy players are letting us down at the moment, thats the difference.
Must make finals next year and stay there for many years, if we don't,the desease from years past within the culture at the club will never change unless the entire current coaching staff and above are swept out. As well as players from our crap culture days.
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As WP said finals this year would be a bonus. As long as we keep improving finals appearance shouldn't be to long away.
Fingers crossed we get a armchair ride into the 8 next year with an easy fixture like some teams have this year.
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As WP said finals this year would be a bonus. As long as we keep improving finals appearance shouldn't be to long away.
Fingers crossed we get a armchair ride into the 8 next year with an easy fixture like some teams have this year.
We will never get concessions like some other clubs, especially considering the supporter base of that said club are as rare as the bunyip or yeti.
I still cant understand how that happens, but thats the AFL. Even if we played Gold Coast twice?? it would still be in Cairns and Metricon QLD
Some will disagree but if we had won the gold coast, port and last nth game we could of played finals last year. We were 3 games away.
But I suppose the problem is close enough is good enough has been accepted for too long, im sure the kids busting their behind every week like Rance, Cotch, Lids, Batch etc wont put up with free riders for much longer..
This year I get the feeling we will be in the mix and without making excuses about the draw being tough etc, I think the fact we have blown 2-3 games we could have won we will just miss out by 2-3 ladder places. This year (without putting a moz on us) I think the bigger difference will be that we dont get blown away by the bigger clubs. So with a better percentage we will be high up the ladder.
fwiw at this stage I thought we could be 2-3 by the end of this round. But most likely 1-4
What you would want to see USAFF is this imo:
12 wins minimum (very possible)
good percentage around the 100.00% mark or more due to the below:
Smashing the teams below us
And when we lose to other teams not to be blown away
Also and very important: the emergence of the little depth that we do have creeping their way into the side throughout the year. This would be because they've worked hard to get a crack in the seniors and thats what we want- Winners!!
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Okay, i was kind of thinking along the same lines, that we're close. From the matches i've watched it seems the Tigers are just a few crucial mistakes a game from wins. I also do realize this is a tough draw to start the year out. I'm hoping to see us beat the Eagles in a few days.
I have to say if this is a gimmick account that your american gimmick is the best gimmick on this site at the moment. Wish I had thought of it. Maybe I could have been a Richmond supporter living in The Congo or Uganda ;D
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How much time have you got?........... :pray
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Here I am again in this mean old town
And you're so far away from me
And where are you when the sun goes down?
You're so far away from me
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So far I just can't see
You're so far away from me
You're so far away from me, alright
I'm tired of bein' in love and bein' all alone
When you're so far away from me
I'm tired of makin' out on the telephone
'Cause you're so far away from me
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We will be comfortably beaten by West Coast at the weekend.
Our MAIN danger is taking the foot off of the intensity and relaxing after this game with west coast is over, thinking that the next group of games is going to be easier. Its here that we could get bitten well and truly on the arse.
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We will be comfortably beaten by West Coast at the weekend.
Are you serious?
It's a hard task but I doubt that any REAL Tiger SUPPORTER will think that we will be "COMFORTABLY BEATEN".
GET ON BOARD Rodge. The ride will be amazing.
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
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:shh
I knew you'd like that one
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:shh
I knew you'd like that one
Cool.
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Woah look out folks, there's a new sheriff in in town :shh
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
No mate, a bloody good RED that gets me excited.
I made a Tiger in Broome in 1986 and I still get the pleasure.
It's only been a couple of days since the magic L word but it's still ready for action tonight and the signs are good.
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We are coming and that's what get me going.
It just gives the irrits that so many so called supporters constantly knock our mighty club.
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We suggest you set out to get along with other posters on this site, and avoid criticism of crack or smut.
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:lol
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We suggest you set out to get along with other posters on this site, and avoid criticism of crack or smut.
I am strong enough to NOT NEED the SUPPORT of FOOLS.
I set out to show how REAL TIGER SUPPORTERS, and I stress the word, SUPPORTERS, should behave, in every situation.
I grew up in a Magpie dominated area and I couldn't believe the crap that they dished out to some of the finest players ever to pull on the boots for THEIR club.
I am disappointed that so called Tiger fans lower themselves to the same standards.
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
No mate, a bloody good RED that gets me excited.
I made a Tiger in Broome in 1986 and I still get the pleasure.
It's only been a couple of days since the magic L word but it's still ready for action tonight and the signs are good.
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We are coming and that's what get me going.
It just gives the irrits that so many so called supporters constantly knock our mighty club.
Swab him now!!!!
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
No mate, a bloody good RED that gets me excited.
I made a Tiger in Broome in 1986 and I still get the pleasure.
It's only been a couple of days since the magic L word but it's still ready for action tonight and the signs are good.
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We are coming and that's what get me going.
It just gives the irrits that so many so called supporters constantly knock our mighty club.
Swab him now!!!!
I don't need a swab mate. Well over the limit........but still sensible enough to SUPPORT the MIGHTY TIGERS.......as opposed to some on here.
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
No mate, a bloody good RED that gets me excited.
I made a Tiger in Broome in 1986 and I still get the pleasure.
It's only been a couple of days since the magic L word but it's still ready for action tonight and the signs are good.
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We are coming and that's what get me going.
It just gives the irrits that so many so called supporters constantly knock our mighty club.
Swab him now!!!!
I don't need a swab mate. Well over the limit........but still sensible enough to SUPPORT the MIGHTY TIGERS.......as opposed to some on here.
:outtahere
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We will be comfortably beaten by West Coast at the weekend.
Are you serious?
It's a hard task but I doubt that any REAL Tiger SUPPORTER will think that we will be "COMFORTABLY BEATEN".
GET ON BOARD Rodge. The ride will be amazing.
I admire your eternal optimisim, it is what has served us for thirty years. Don't ever lose it.
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We will be comfortably beaten by West Coast at the weekend.
Are you serious?
It's a hard task but I doubt that any REAL Tiger SUPPORTER will think that we will be "COMFORTABLY BEATEN".
GET ON BOARD Rodge. The ride will be amazing.
I admire your eternal optimisim, it is what has served us for thirty years. Don't ever lose it.
Thanks Rodge. I hope you get the joy you seek WHEN we get to show the rest of the AFL who really rules the JUNGLE.
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Does YOUR SON know you post ON FOOTBALL FORUMS whilst DRUNK
:lol
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How far away are we?
Fathoms...
Wow, a big word.
Do you what it means or are you just ignorant of the OBVIOUS IMPROVEMENT of our Mighty Tigers?
Bloody hell Ekto are you having a crack habit day or what, or did you get laid for the first time last night??
I don't need crack or smut to get excited about the Tiger prospects.
We suggest you set out to get along with other posters on this site, and avoid criticism of crack or smut.
I am strong enough to NOT NEED the SUPPORT of FOOLS.
I set out to show how REAL TIGER SUPPORTERS, and I stress the word, SUPPORTERS, should behave, in every situation.
I grew up in a Magpie dominated area and I couldn't believe the crap that they dished out to some of the finest players ever to pull on the boots for THEIR club.
I am disappointed that so called Tiger fans lower themselves to the same standards.
:lol
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Oh gosh..
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Does YOUR SON know you post ON FOOTBALL FORUMS whilst DRUNK
:lol
Wow.
I give you credit for your double edged question.
1. He knows but he has never listened to my crap.
2. I'm not drunk, just suitably imbibed to get into you so-called supporters who constantly knock RICHMOND.
Do you really think that he would read the crap that is dished out on well meaning footy forums? Especially what I type.
He knows how much crap I speak about with footy.
If you think he cares, ask him when you lean over the fence and ask him to give you the footy after a win.
No guts no glory.
When the ANZACS marched up the hills at Gallipoli, did they ask whether it would lead to a victory? NO, because they knew in their own hearts, that they were marching to victory, regardless of the result.
That is what we Tigers need to embrace.
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Trolling the Tiger sites again I see Rimau.
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Trolling the Tiger sites again I see Rimau.
Abracadabra........you got me in one.
I've put a new engine on the boat and I can get down to 2 knots on the troll and the results have been impressive.
A bag of Snapper beats a lamb roast any day.
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If you think he cares, ask him when you lean over the fence and ask him to give you the footy after a win.
I'll ask him when I'm next down Coburg way.
But in all seriousness, he is one lad I do not mind, despite his obvious limitations as a footballer. Hope he has a bit more impact this week.
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If you think he cares, ask him when you lean over the fence and ask him to give you the footy after a win.
I'll ask him when I'm next down Coburg way.
But in all seriousness, he is one lad I do not mind, despite his obvious limitations as a footballer. Hope he has a bit more impact this week.
Gerkin, I am with you. I also hope he has more impact this week.
I'd love to catch up with you down Coburg way one day, but not too soon. :)
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So, as a relatively new fan I was thinking the other night about RFC. How far do you guys things we are from finals footy? I know there are some issues we need to work out (forwards, Jacko, Edwards) and that our team is still young but would you say in a year or two we should be there? How talented is the team now compared to teams since Richmond's drought started? Sorry for all the newbie questions guys but I'm just really wanting to learn as much as I can about the club.
To answer you IMHO, we are an average talent team that is youngish and we might (prob 50% chance this year) make the finals this year or next (maybe 60% chance) or maybe neither depending on how players develop. While we may make the finals this year or next I'm not too worried as it took Bomber Thompson 3-5 years to seriously improve Geelong, which basically put 110 games into their backline. And our backline is a real work in progress, we still don't have a centre half back to speak of.
But most importantly the administration is on the right path. Its about members and money and directing the spend.
1. The recruiting spend has improved.
2. The development coach spend has increased.
3. The membership has increased.
4. I wouldn't be surprised if our total turnover has grown significantly.
5. I bet our sport science spend has increased too.
6. Our facilities have improved.
Eventually we need to increase our medical spend too.
I really feel for the first time in years we are on the right path to ongoing improvement. While the same old lines were said under Frawley and Wallace, this time the focus is on becoming an off field success which will translate to on field.
Also the coaching and recruiting team have proved they aren't idiots by
1. Identifying our list holes and plugging them with the best option we could find.
i.e. Recruiting for the backline Batchelor, The ruck Maric
2. Identifying the current collision nature of footy and recruiting heavier bodies accordingly. Griggs
3. Improving and developing younger players like Rance, Cotchin
4. Offloading players who couldn't make it, there are many here.
5. Recruiting a pile of average potentials and then culling if they don't make it. Nason,
We probably will cull a few young one this year if they don't improve.
Now that's the normal process, or should be but I reckon its the first time we have done it at Richmond. Under Frawley we had top up drafts and under Wallace we had a badly under staffed recruiting department.
If Hardwick has done any errors it probably was to not immediately swap out the backline players who won't make it like Thursfield or McGuane. We still don't have a fully settled backline and once we do, we need to put games into them and time might run out on Hardwick to do so.
I think our list has less holes in it than under Wallace and our skill level is much better than under Frawley. I don't think our list is as talented as 95 but our admin is much better so we are less likely to self destruct and might genuinely build.
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Seriously,could anybody really think that we should be in a better position than we are at this stage of the season.We have played bloody good finals teams apart from melb so far.At this stage I had us 1- 4.But still had us just making finals. I can count 12 wins this season providing we don't lose winable games like we did last year to Gold coast in Cairns and Port in Darwin.Although I haven't picked Richmond this week ( which I am about to change) I really think that we can beat the eagles here in Melb.Remember we aren't playing that bad of footy just minutes of lapses which all teams have.Wouldnt it be great if our forwards could just improve even 40 percent then I am certain we would be able to kick a winning score and our season would be under way with a lot of wins coming.