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Title: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2012, 08:57:08 PM
Doc Larkins says it's a high-up hamstring. Looks like a repeat of last year's Dreamtime injury.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 19, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
Out till 2013?

Nice one
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 19, 2012, 09:01:37 PM
Down to one KPD. So who comes in next week? McGuane injured. Post? Astbury? The options are very thin
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 19, 2012, 09:03:13 PM
Mcgaune.

Season over.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: mightytiges on May 19, 2012, 09:10:41 PM
Just shows our list lacks depth if we have to go back to McGuane. Mind you Luke has been playing forward for Coburg this year.

We were always vunerable if we were to get injuries to any key players.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Muscles on May 19, 2012, 09:12:45 PM
Same hammy as last year or is it the other one?  They're saying left leg.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 19, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
Same hammy as last year or is it the other one?  They're saying left leg.

The other one
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
It's Grimesy's left leg this time so it's other one. Doc Larkins said he hopes it's only a strain but Grimes will still miss quite a bit of footy.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 19, 2012, 10:28:20 PM
Post.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 19, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
he is just about the last player we can afford to lose to injury. i dont think we can make the eight now.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Muscles on May 19, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
Time to end the {insert favorite Burger player here} farce!

Choices:
{Luke, Posty, Griff, Daylight}
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 19, 2012, 10:33:53 PM
Time to end the {insert favorite Burger player here} farce!

Choices:
{Luke, Posty, Griff, Daylight}

Choices:
{The Hamburglar, Grimmace, Birdie, Daylight}
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: jezza on May 19, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
Shame Kel wasn't a few weeks further progressed...
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 19, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
Shame Kel wasn't a few weeks further progressed...

Or astbury

Or griff
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: The Big Richo on May 19, 2012, 10:51:55 PM
Gone.

Delist.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Ruanaidh on May 19, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
Time for Griff to stand up at CHB and Post can take Millers spot!
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2012, 10:57:30 PM
4-5 weeks out according to Doc Larkins. So Grimes out until after the Bye at least.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 19, 2012, 11:14:50 PM
It happened in front of where I was standing.
He jogged off.
I'd suggest it would be the standard 21 day rest.
I'm a physio.
(not really)
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2012, 11:57:12 PM
Dimma says he believe it is a minor hamstring injury to Grimes, further info to be gathered in next 24 hours

Source: RFC twitter
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 20, 2012, 12:23:46 AM
Time for Griff to stand up at CHB and Post can take Millers spot!
:thumbsup

agree. It's time to put these guys into the kitchen and see if they can stand the heat.

If they can't play then get rid of them and get players that can.   
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: tigs2011 on May 20, 2012, 01:03:34 AM
Unleash the Griff  :bow :thumbsup
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: georgies31 on May 20, 2012, 05:26:02 AM
Just shows our list lacks depth if we have to go back to McGuane. Mind you Luke has been playing forward for Coburg this year.

We were always vulnerable if we were to get injuries to any key players.

Mate that applys to any team in the AFL.Lets not forget our talls have be injured this season.Astbury,Griffiths,Moore,Elton etc.You can cover only so much.With regard to McGuane I don't want him in the team either,but what can you do Post has to step up simple.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: gerkin greg on May 20, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
1. Doc Larkin is a peanut

That is all
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: the claw on May 20, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
tough luck for the kid.
imo we have been playing one tall short down back as it is. to lose him is a big blow.

imo i thought their talls towelled us up in the first half  only when the ball stopped going forward did they go quiet. i thought their lead was built on them having blokes like ryder and crameri getting their hands on it.
with the ball going down there we looked very vulnerable even with both grimes and rance. we do indeed need to have a better structure but we dont it seems have anyone up  to the standard
to play there.
ideally we go out and get that big kpd that we desperately need. who can we play in place of grimes yet alone find two tall defenders to properly structure up.

the other problem atm is the lack of forwards who are performing. sheesh riewoldt was poor again miller is clearly not the answer and the little blokes just dont have the polish.
seems to me we are screaming out for a real good medium sized forward a real good small and a ruck/forward to step up along with a good second kpd.

we seem to have some numbers with tall forwards in,  griffiths, astbury, elton, and ruck forwards in derickx and vickery. but none are doing a thing either thru injury or form.i can tell ya we desperately need to find some genuine help for big ivan because if he goes down with a struggling forward line a stretched backline we need the arm chair ride hes giving to our mids to stay competetive run him into the ground at our peril i say.

finally the bottom 6 each week.you wonder why we cant get over the line. well while the structure hasnt helped and the lack of forwards doing anything to me the bottom 6 just falls away too much and again the lack of depth in the entire squad limits what we can do to fix this.
obviously we must continue to rotate deledio,martin,conca thru there we dont have a choice even if we didnt want to rotate them.
the bottom 6 players imo are. nahas,king,miller, edwards, jackson, dea. yep we have got the odd decent game from them here and there this yr but in the main they are ordinary with apologies to matt dea who is still in early development and i  think we need to play him.
others who are not or have not produced  a lot this yr are vickery, riewoldt, newman theres been a lot of reliance on  12 14 players to regularly stand up and they have above expectations.

what do we do to overcome these problems well theres not a lot we can do not unless players start to take some steps.

me i would take the punt and give tom derickx a game poor form or not as the third tall forward/ second ruck. it could be vickery but i really think he should come back thru coburg having found some touch and confidence. as mentioned before big ivan cannot be expected to carry such a load all yr we must find some help for him.

imo we have no choice now with grimes hurt but to give post another game at chb. it should have happened before we were forced into it.
me id like to add another tall down back and i get him from left field by promoting darrou of the rookie list. my understanding is hes been pretty consistent this yr.

b/  darrou - rance- morris.
hb/ batchelor - post - dea.
c/ grigg - martin - ellis.
hf/ conca - miller - edwards
f/ derickx - riewoldt - deledio
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int from/ tuck - newman - houli - arnot.

ins - darrou - post - derickx - arnot.
out - grimes inj - jackson hack - king been terrible - nahas has struggled most games.

all of riewoldt, miller, houli, and newman should consider themselves lucky as there are no real replacements for them atm.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: bojangles17 on May 20, 2012, 02:50:16 PM
darrou is the smoker, rated pretty highly within, another good game would have him promoted :shh
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 20, 2012, 03:54:39 PM
darrou is the smoker, rated pretty highly within, another good game would have him promoted :shh

Darrou is 190cm. Tall enough to replace Grimes?
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: bojangles17 on May 20, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
darrou is the smoker, rated pretty highly within, another good game would have him promoted :shh

Darrou is 190cm. Tall enough to replace Grimes?

with his leap, absolutely
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 20, 2012, 04:09:05 PM
darrou is the smoker, rated pretty highly within, another good game would have him promoted :shh

Darrou is 190cm. Tall enough to replace Grimes?

with his leap, absolutely

K thanks
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: WA Tiger on May 20, 2012, 05:02:16 PM
Ok so how many times have I said we need at least two more Mal Michael size players from free agency, trade or draft?????? We are way way to small in the back line and there is no depth.

I did say that if Grimes went down and God forbid Rance too we are stuffed and we are...

Anyone watch Merritts game......

We need two backs, another ruck man and a forward.....anyone for Cloke now, but not at an unrealistic price.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Gigantor on May 20, 2012, 06:33:28 PM
darous leap??from what i saw today he would be lucky to leap over a matchbox
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 20, 2012, 06:43:27 PM
darous leap??from what i saw today he would be lucky to leap over a matchbox

k thanks
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: the claw on May 20, 2012, 09:08:04 PM
ya know on a lot of boards if i actually believed what a lot of posters wrote about supposedly going to games at coburg we dont have one player worthy of giving a game to its bloody depressing.

Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Coach on May 20, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
ya know on a lot of boards if i actually believed what a lot of posters wrote about supposedly going to games at coburg we dont have one player worthy of giving a game to its bloody depressing.



WGAF what people on other boards are saying. You're not a Beige man, so obviously you read this poo on Big Footy??
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 21, 2012, 12:16:56 AM
ya know on a lot of boards if i actually believed what a lot of posters wrote about supposedly going to games at coburg we dont have one player worthy of giving a game to its bloody depressing.

From the little i have seen in recent times i can handle white playing for richmond. Seems to be a leader and the burgers and will always have a go. In white you would get at least a similar output to jacko/king/nahas.

But yes the list needs alot of work going into r1 2013.

I hope moore can stay fit.

Fingers crossed the 2nd half of the season the following a causing selection problem for dimma via coburg form-
Post. Astbury.  Helbig  griffiths  aarnot  elton  derickx. Ohallon
 
Someone (or somethree) outside the box need to step us. Our team will only ever be as good as our bottom 6 players in rfc senior side.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: one-eyed on May 21, 2012, 04:20:56 AM
Richmond will know the full extent of Dylan Grimes's hamstring problem after scans are taken today. Tigers general manager of football operations Craig Cameron said the strain appeared to be minor but that he would miss against Hawthorn at the MCG on Saturday.

Link from today's Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/dustin-fletcher-is-the-only-certain-withdrawal-from-game-against-gws/story-fnca0u4y-1226361648932)
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Mr Magic on May 21, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Hopefully it's not too bad but we can't rush it. He's a player over the next decade.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Stripes on May 21, 2012, 02:43:59 PM
Hopefully it's not too bad but we can't rush it. He's a player over the next decade.

Seems to be getting regular issues with his hammies. This is more of a worry for mine than looking at this one incident in isolation
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Willy on May 21, 2012, 03:10:18 PM
Hopefully it's not too bad but we can't rush it. He's a player over the next decade.

Seems to be getting regular issues with his hammies. This is more of a worry for mine than looking at this one incident in isolation

Might be time to inject some rooster spunk into his legs.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Mr Magic on May 21, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
Hopefully it's not too bad but we can't rush it. He's a player over the next decade.

Seems to be getting regular issues with his hammies. This is more of a worry for mine than looking at this one incident in isolation

I am just so grateful it was the opposite leg.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 21, 2012, 05:12:19 PM
3-4 weeks fellas

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/136458/default.aspx

Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: one-eyed on May 24, 2012, 12:38:19 PM
Dimma today said the Club will be cautious with Grimes as he's an important player to us and will put him in cotton wool until after the midseason break. So we won't see Grimesy until at least round 14 which is over 5 weeks away.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: tony_montana on May 24, 2012, 07:45:41 PM
Odds are our season will be shot by then..
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: cub on May 24, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
Massive test for the boys with grimey out, very underated player.
Just another nice learning curve in preparation for our upcoming tilt.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 25, 2012, 11:06:22 PM
Big shoes to fill.

I hope Griff can fill them.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 27, 2012, 12:14:59 AM
when batch + grimes is back and full of rooster spunk is our best back 6?

Rance. Grimes. Dea.
Batchelor. Griffiths. Morris

?

Ellis . Houli. Newman into the guts.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 27, 2012, 12:18:21 AM
Dunno bout Dea
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Smokey on May 27, 2012, 07:56:13 AM
when batch + grimes is back and full of rooster spunk is our best back 6?

Rance. Grimes. Dea.
Batchelor. Griffiths. Morris

?

Ellis . Houli. Newman into the guts.

They will definitely be looking at Ellis to the midfield in the future but maybe Batchelor will move there as well?  Houli strikes me as a typical modern day back flanker and I think the team needs his run, carry and delivery off that line.  By the time Dea cements his place (if he does) I reckon Newy will just about be done.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 27, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
Dunno bout Dea

Dea will be a gun
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 27, 2012, 09:23:10 AM
when batch + grimes is back and full of rooster spunk is our best back 6?

Rance. Grimes. Dea.
Batchelor. Griffiths. Morris

?

Ellis . Houli. Newman into the guts.

They will definitely be looking at Ellis to the midfield in the future but maybe Batchelor will move there as well?  Houli strikes me as a typical modern day back flanker and I think the team needs his run, carry and delivery off that line.  By the time Dea cements his place (if he does) I reckon Newy will just about be done.

Batch strikes me as a natural defender
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Willy on May 27, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
Yep. Batch is a natural defender. his ability to read the play and take intercepting marks is important back there.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Danog on May 27, 2012, 04:29:32 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't be moving Batch anywhere.  Newman was our worst player yesterday IMO, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: tigs2011 on May 27, 2012, 04:33:23 PM
We play a 7 man backline.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: tony_montana on May 27, 2012, 07:31:49 PM
Yep Cpnca and Ellis are midfielders who can play back, Houli and Morris also offer dash, we have a good balance and group of players we can rotate through the backline now - horses for courses. I'm stunned at how well a backline that has so many players under 20-30 games experience gels so well so quickly

Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 27, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
Yep Cpnca and Ellis are midfielders who can play back, Houli and Morris also offer dash, we have a good balance and group of players we can rotate through the backline now - horses for courses. I'm stunned at how well a backline that has so many players under 20-30 games experience gels so well so quickly



We have only conceded 100 points or more only 3 times this season.
The other 6 times 85 was the highest score and all other scores ranged from 54-75.

Last year we conceded 100+ points 12 times including 20 goals plus 4 times.

Defensively we have improved out of sight not just in the backline but all over the ground.
Title: Re: Grimes - upper hammy injury
Post by: Stripes on May 27, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
And I think that's the key Tucker - we have improved defensively all over the ground. There has been far more 'shallow entries into F50 this year due to the added pressure our midfielders are creating. This is allowing our defenders both more time to position themselves and then quickly rebound. In the past our defenders have had to try and defend one on one situations deep into the F50.

Also I do believe we have a real talent in Rance with Grimes not far behind (though still very slight). Batchelor plays the floating defender well and Griffiths could be the monster CHB we have been crying out for. All except Rance need more meat on their bodies to really compete in those contested 'wrestles' going forward but we are looking very balanced down back now with defenders who are good by foot, are athletic and (most importantly) can shut down an opponent.

Leppa deserves a fair slice of credit.