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Brett Deledio bashers go silent as Richmond star shines
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
May 23, 2012
RICHMOND plays Hawthorn this weekend, which is normally the perfect time for a spot of Deledio-bashing.
Can't believe they took him; could have had Buddy; can't shake a tag; won't get his hands dirty.
Those are the familiar refrains from predominantly non-Richmond supporters who gloat at what the Tigers passed up.
Richmond will never live down the Richard Tambling selection (pick 4) ahead of Lance Franklin (pick 5) given he has sunk without a trace.
And nor should they.
Yet is it finally dawning on the football commentariat that the top-end of this draft might be becoming a little like the 2001 Luke Hodge-Luke Ball-Chris Judd draft.
In other words, a draft where you would have been happy with any of those selections.
Deledio was masterful against Essendon, as he has been all year.
It saw Mick Malthouse, so scornful early in the year about whether he deserved a five-year contract, even tender an apology.
The 2004 national draft went like this: Brett Deledio (1), Jarryd Roughead (2), Ryan Griffen (3), Richard Tambling (4), Lance Franklin (5), Tom Williams (6), Jordan Lewis (7), John Meesen (8 ), Jordan Russell (9), and Chris Egan (10).
Some hits and misses there, but how would you rank the top end of that draft now?
Maybe something like this?
1. Franklin (and by some margin). 2. Deledio. 3. Griffen. 4. Roughead. 5 Lewis.
Argue the toss over Roughead and Lewis, or even Griffen.
Roughead is a beauty, although Griffen and Deledio have better best-and-fairest results.
But there is no doubting Deledio has now become the player everyone at Richmond hoped he would become.
Early last year former Tiger Nathan Brown offered this on Deledio: "If Deledio had been drafted to a Geelong or Collingwood, we would be talking about him in the same regard as (Joel) Selwood or (Scott) Pendlebury.
"I see it similar to Brendon Goddard, much maligned early in his career with a struggling St Kilda to become one of the game's elite, and a prototype for modern AFL with a powerhouse St Kilda.''
His assessment has come true, even if Richmond is still far from a powerhouse.
In the past four years Deledio has two best-and-fairests (08, 09), a runner-up (2011) and a third-placing (2010).
This year's form is better than all of that, with his game against Essendon a fair sample.
Thirty-five disposals, seven marks, nine contested possessions, five clearances, 10 tackles, one goal, 13 score involvements, 24 pressure acts, efficiency of 77 per cent.
This year he is second in the league in handball receives, equal first for inside-50s alongside Patrick Dangerfield, and equal fourth for goal assists.
Taggers are going to the source of Richmond's scores - Trent Cotchin - and sometimes to Dustin Martin, which means Deledio is getting off the chain.
For now.
Tambling's story is particularly sad. He was traded to Adelaide and played 10 games last year, but has battled away in the SANFL this year.
One recruiter yesterday still said Tambling was the right pick at No.4, but just never developed.
"Everyone thought he was the next Michael Long. He had the run and carry. That's where the game was at then. Everyone was looking for speed. Now everyone is looking at players who win the contested ball.''
That draft was a nightmare for the Tigers, who only now are winning the draft and trade battle.
Yet at least Deledio is signed up and finally getting the recognition he has deserved for some time.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport-old/afl/brett-deledio-bashers-go-silent-as-richmond-star-shines/story-e6frepkx-1226363803030
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Ralph is a stuff
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whats wrong with the article?
Considering Ralphy is a tiger supporter, pretty balanced article actually
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I have never thought of Lids as being much maligned. He is a product of an era where the club has repeatedly failed to develop the younger types and come through. He is capable of playing many games on end and does not get suspended. Under rated by many.
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whats wrong with the article?
Considering Ralphy is a tiger supporter, pretty balanced article actually
If being a Richmond supporter qualifies you to be balanced when assessing the club, then what has happened to this site? :)
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Nah, jackies correct. There's nothing wrong with the article.
Perhaps the crayon muncher has just proven the thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters for a thousand years theory.
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I have never thought of Lids as being much maligned. He is a product of an era where the club has repeatedly failed to develop the younger types and come through. He is capable of playing many games on end and does not get suspended. Under rated by many.
Diasgree - I think the media have been incredibly harsh on LIds over the years. Look at Mike Sheahan he has constantly carried on about (most recently after round 1) Lids not "doing enough" as a number 1 draft pick. Not that Mike's ever clearly defined what "enough" is ;D. Robbo and plenty of others have done the same
IMV I think it is a very fair and reasonable assessment by Ralphy :thumbsup
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Robbo is an inarticulate slurring pelican
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Meh. Lids has been a star for years but the Tiges are improving so naturally he's gaining a bigger media presence now.
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Must admit he has won me over this year.
:thumbsup
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Must admit he has won me over this year.
:thumbsup
He's won you over? Honestly, WGAF?
He's always been a gun.
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Is always in career best form.
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He's always been a gun.
Yes but just not my faourite player
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nice sig :clapping
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Thanks Gerks
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snort
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Must admit he has won me over this year.
:thumbsup
He's won you over? Honestly, WGAF?
He's always been a gun.
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LMFAO at how Lids had to win people over. Much maligned??? by who?
The guy is the one of very few players who in my opinion is A grade. Kicks the very ball well since day 1 and tries his guts out.
People say well he should kick more goals well Judd or Girlwood arent the best kicks either.
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What are the chances of Lids getting 3 BV's, 100% you would think, BUT maybe he is under the radar for some reason.
With Cotchin, Foley, Tuck and Dusty, I guess opposition needs to work out who to put their best taggers on and where to stop our possessions from the midfield.
Well done Brett, you have been stuck down back to deliver the ball now you have a chance to shine. Go get em Tiger.
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Must admit he has won me over this year.
:thumbsup
He's won you over? Honestly, WGAF?
He's always been a gun.
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LMFAO at how Lids had to win people over. Much maligned??? by who?
The guy is the one of very few players who in my opinion is A grade. Kicks the very ball well since day 1 and tries his guts out.
People say well he should kick more goals well Judd or Girlwood arent the best kicks either.
I think the article is right in its assessment that Lids had to win many people over and that is what the "much maligned" is about. There have been many debates on here over the years over the efforts/output/value/attitude of Lids but like '65 said: "he has won me over this year", I think that is the case for many supporters in that he has only just recently (last couple of seasons) won them over. You are dead right Daniel, in that he is A grade and has been for longer than many realize or gave credit for (I include myself in this group), and again, like you say he has displayed the skills and attributes of an A grader for much of his career but for whatever reason it hasn't always translated to acceptance from Richmond supporters and the greater AFL public. I'm glad that I was wrong in my reluctance to accept his credentials and I hope that he gets due recognition from the wider football public as it all adds to the case for the club as a whole regaining the respect it needs to become a successful entity again, both on and off the field.
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Iirc there were plenty of posters on here who bagged him
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whats wrong with the article?
Considering Ralphy is a tiger supporter, pretty balanced article actually
Agree 100%, Good article for mine.
Agree with everything 100%
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I have never thought of Lids as being much maligned. He is a product of an era where the club has repeatedly failed to develop the younger types and come through. He is capable of playing many games on end and does not get suspended. Under rated by many.
Diasgree - I think the media have been incredibly harsh on LIds over the years. Look at Mike Sheahan he has constantly carried on about (most recently after round 1) Lids not "doing enough" as a number 1 draft pick. Not that Mike's ever clearly defined what "enough" is ;D. Robbo and plenty of others have done the same
IMV I think it is a very fair and reasonable assessment by Ralphy :thumbsup
Agree, have read constant articles about Lids not doing enough, getting easy ball, not shacking a tag, failing to kick big goals etc.
Don't mention the crap we have to put up with suggesting Griffen should have been higher in the draft than Lids. Rubbish.
Lids has copped it unfairly, maybe not every week or month but on numerous occasions in his career. Good print JR :gotigers
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Iirc there were plenty of posters on here who bagged him
You would be correct.
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I have never thought of Lids as being much maligned. He is a product of an era where the club has repeatedly failed to develop the younger types and come through. He is capable of playing many games on end and does not get suspended. Under rated by many.
Diasgree - I think the media have been incredibly harsh on LIds over the years. Look at Mike Sheahan he has constantly carried on about (most recently after round 1) Lids not "doing enough" as a number 1 draft pick. Not that Mike's ever clearly defined what "enough" is ;D. Robbo and plenty of others have done the same
IMV I think it is a very fair and reasonable assessment by Ralphy :thumbsup
Not sure if i made my point here, WP. My post is in support of Lids, that is, he has managed to come through a decent player from a period when many others did not. Therefore i don't malign him.
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I have never thought of Lids as being much maligned. He is a product of an era where the club has repeatedly failed to develop the younger types and come through. He is capable of playing many games on end and does not get suspended. Under rated by many.
Diasgree - I think the media have been incredibly harsh on LIds over the years. Look at Mike Sheahan he has constantly carried on about (most recently after round 1) Lids not "doing enough" as a number 1 draft pick. Not that Mike's ever clearly defined what "enough" is ;D. Robbo and plenty of others have done the same
IMV I think it is a very fair and reasonable assessment by Ralphy :thumbsup
Not sure if i made my point here, WP. My post is in support of Lids, that is, he has managed to come through a decent player from a period when many others did not. Therefore i don't malign him.
Fair enough GR12 - I thought you were saying in general you didn't think Lids had been maligned . I think he has been by the media (in particular) and a few supporters and quite unfairly BTW