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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: drewturner on June 16, 2012, 05:00:56 PM
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I find it quite concerning that we have yet again lost the tackle count,this time against GWS 87 to 69.
I understand that when you are winning week in week out that your tackle count would be lower than the opponent as you obviously have more possession and less chasing the ball.But while we aren't in this position i feel that maybe we really aren't putting enough pressure on opposing teams which could result in a few more wins considering we have been in with a chance in every game this year.I hope the coaching staff are well aware of this stat.I am glad we got over the line against GWS as these were the games we lost last year and cost us a position in the eight.Go theTiges :thumbsup
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there is a point where you are making too many tackles. Not only does it indicate being second to the ball, it is physically tiring.
69 is not a low tackle count.
(oh, theres a line somewhere there........)
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Too many players 'sifting off' (using Hardwick's venacular). Tell them to get in or get out. The fact that Cotch could be lined-up like he was in the last quarter speaks volumes.
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We won more contested ball and had heaps more stats.
That would probably be one factor as to why they got more tackles against us.
Wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage.
Our tackling has been quite good this year overall and the tackles are sticking at least compared to a few years ago when our pencils were being broken quite easily.
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thought i had this squirreled away somewhere;
(http://wiseowl.id.au/publicfiles/tacklesVladder.jpg)
nearly a perfect bell curve, based on averages from 2010.
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Are they the tickles from the Dan Connor thread? :o
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Are they the tickles from the Dan Connor thread? :o
:sleep
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its tckles not tickles.
get it right!
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there is a point where you are making too many tackles. Not only does it indicate being second to the ball, it is physically tiring.
69 is not a low tackle count.
(oh, theres a line somewhere there........)
It would be very difficult to perform a 69 with a low tackle count?
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Im not that concerned by the stat, we genrally have 20percent more possies than the opposition, that may explain some, zero in on contested footy and clearances , whoa, now we're talking :shh
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Bojangles is right. If we got the ball, we don't need to tackle as much to win it back, and one thing that stood out was many of their 'tackles' were of people who weren't even in posession of the football, this didn't seem to bother the umpire at all.
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tackle count is overrated
first teams to the ball usually have less tackles ffs
its common sense
of course we lost the tackle count, look how much contested ball won and possession we had
score bored does not reflect how much we thumped the,
weather gods stuffed us good percentage
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tackle count is overrated
first teams to the ball usually have less tackles ffs
its common sense
of course we lost the tackle count, look how much contested ball won and possession we had
score bored does not reflect how much we thumped the,
weather gods stuffed us good percentage
ooh yeah like the weather gods stuffed our percentage up against the Hawks
Look on Dimmas face at the siren said it all.
Yes we won but in many ways we lacked intensity and basic errors missed tackles was why we didn't nail them to the sword as we should've
I really believe they shouldn't even have sung the song especially efforts from Mille and Dea
Should be a non negotiable never play these 2 spuds when there is 1 drop of rain
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Today hawks dominated possession, inside 50's etc, played in poor conditions and guess what? they won by 11 goals and had about 100 tackles to boot, +30 more than their opponents - but yeah tackles are overated ...
Oh yeah almost forgot, conditions dont allow for percentage boosting wins either :shh
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Ill tellya one thing that isnt overrated, goal kicking accuracy, we were at about 30percent yesterday...hawks today were about 50.. Still not that unreal but we would have taken that yesterday :shh
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Too many players 'sifting off' (using Hardwick's venacular). Tell them to get in or get out. The fact that Cotch could be lined-up like he was in the last quarter speaks volumes.
That it was a cheap shot?
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Today hawks dominated possession, inside 50's etc, played in poor conditions and guess what? they won by 11 goals and had about 100 tackles to boot, +30 more than their opponents - but yeah tackles are overated ...
Oh yeah almost forgot, conditions dont allow for percentage boosting wins either :shh
Brisbane are like butter...
...the variety you accidentally leave on the bench when you go to work on a hot day.
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tackle count is overrated
first teams to the ball usually have less tackles ffs
its common sense
of course we lost the tackle count, look how much contested ball won and possession we had
score bored does not reflect how much we thumped the,
weather gods stuffed us good percentage
ooh yeah like the weather gods stuffed our percentage up against the Hawks
Look on Dimmas face at the siren said it all.
Yes we won but in many ways we lacked intensity and basic errors missed tackles was why we didn't nail them to the sword as we should've
I really believe they shouldn't even have sung the song especially efforts from Mille and Dea
Should be a non negotiable never play these 2 spuds when there is 1 drop of rain
the drizzle we had in the hawks game was nothing compared to what we had v fre and more so ve the giants tosser
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Today hawks dominated possession, inside 50's etc, played in poor conditions and guess what? they won by 11 goals and had about 100 tackles to boot, +30 more than their opponents - but yeah tackles are overated ...
Oh yeah almost forgot, conditions dont allow for percentage boosting wins either :shh
Yet last week st kilda won by 95 with only 58 tackles ( 11 more than opponents) and the week before collingwood won by 97 points with 53 tackles (6 more than opponents), and that same week geelong beat gws by 65 points with 65 tackles ( 14 less than their opponents)
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tackle counts mean nothing
just like contested possession
effective tackles and contested possession to advantage is what counts
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Today hawks dominated possession, inside 50's etc, played in poor conditions and guess what? they won by 11 goals and had about 100 tackles to boot, +30 more than their opponents - but yeah tackles are overated ...
Oh yeah almost forgot, conditions dont allow for percentage boosting wins either :shh
Yet last week st kilda won by 95 with only 58 tackles ( 11 more than opponents) and the week before collingwood won by 97 points with 53 tackles (6 more than opponents), and that same week geelong beat gws by 65 points with 65 tackles ( 14 less than their opponents)
Which just goes to show there's no correlation between winning games and using that as an excuse to justify regularly losing the tackle count ;D
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the only statistic that counts is the scoreboard one...
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Scoreboard pressure means everything :shh
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Fox Footy recipe for success:
1. Contested ball
2. Tackles
3. Disposal efficiency
Win these three stats and 96.2% of the time you win.
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Tackles to me merely determines how hard you work when you don't have the ball.
Even perceived pressure can cause errors if you are a good tackling side.
Although we are improving I would like to see more pressure on the opposition when they have the ball. Too many times I see us make mistakes and the fwd entry 50 on the rebound against us is clinical or we seem to get carved up easily just through the game at times when the opposition have the ball.
Having said that I feel the last two weeks we have missed Foley's in and under grunt, his pace and ability to break the lines and his tackling pressure on opponents. His absence has made us look alot slower and we have missed his presence more than we care to realise.
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Tackles to me merely determines how hard you work when you don't have the ball.
This is really important. Winning the tackle count alone can be an indicator you were just chasing the opposition's backside all day. But combine that with contested footy and it more often than not reflects a hard working team. Hence, the 'recipe for success' ;D
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Tackles to me merely determines how hard you work when you don't have the ball.
This is really important. Winning the tackle count alone can be an indicator you were just chasing the opposition's backside all day. But combine that with contested footy and it more often than not reflects a hard working team. Hence, the 'recipe for success' ;D
Spot on dwaino and Tucker :thumbsup. Need to up the ante in the pressure stakes, completely agree we seem to cop goals a little too easily. Good thing is we concede less than we did so we're on the right track, once we tweak it a lttle we'll be brutal
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Fox Footy recipe for success:
1. Contested ball
2. Tackles
3. Disposal efficiency
Win these three stats and 96.2% of the time you win.
It's probably all accurate but you still have to wonder if it was Tony Shaw holding the calculator.
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Fox Footy recipe for success:
1. Contested ball
2. Tackles
3. Disposal efficiency
Win these three stats and 96.2% of the time you win.
It's probably all accurate but you still have to wonder if it was Tony Shaw holding the calculator.
;D
Apparently it was David King.
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We should be trying be like barca / spain. If you hold the ball the other team cannot score.
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It's probably all accurate but you still have to wonder if it was Tony Shaw holding the calculator.
That's all he could do. He wouldn't have the IQ to turn one on or use it. :wallywink
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Win the inside 50s and conversion inside 50s and you win.
We are in the top few in inside 50s differential, total disposals and disposal efficiency. We are on the right track.
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Fox Footy recipe for success:
1. Contested ball
2. Tackles
3. Disposal efficiency
Win these three stats and 96.2% of the time you win.
It's probably all accurate but you still have to wonder if it was Tony Shaw holding the calculator.
;D
Apparently it was David King.
And he could only be bothered using 1 season's stats to base his theory
Win the inside 50s and conversion inside 50s and you win.
We are in the top few in inside 50s differential, total disposals and disposal efficiency. We are on the right track.
Yes.
Bad day in front of the sticks turned a comfortable win into a jittery jaunt down Oxford Street on roofies