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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 16, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
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A fortnight away but fire away with your changes if any?
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Foley Grimes Morris and Vickery or Graham in
outs - take your pick
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Out: Miller, Dea, Batchelor, O'Hanlon
In: Grimes, Morris, Foley, Vickery
Adelaide game: Ellis the sub
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Quite the puzzle.
Early days but hopefully Foley, Grimes and Morris will be good to go. Astbury might be physically ok but needs better form than today. Who comes out? Nahas at least. Prob batch. Maybe ohanlon.
Hopefully todays injuries to Rance and Edwards are minor as suspected.
King will be available.
Vickery in for Miller.
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Quite the puzzle.
Early days but hopefully Foley, Grimes and Morris will be good to go. Astbury might be physically ok but needs better form than today. Who comes out? Nahas at least. Prob batch. Maybe ohanlon.
Hopefully todays injuries to Rance and Edwards are minor as suspected.
King will be available.
Vickery in for Miller.
You wouldn't drop Nahas for a game at AAMI.
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Out: Miller, Dea, Batchelor, O'Hanlon
In: Grimes, Morris, Foley, Vickery
Adelaide game: Ellis the sub
Pretty good ins :thumbsup
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Ins: foley, morris, grimes....whoa
Outs: o hanlon, jackson, miller
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I'd give O'hanlon a run again.
Batch had a shocker today.
Grimes Morris and Foley would have to be pushing for selection.
I'm hopeful they are fit. :pray
Possibly Griffiths to play Centre Half Forward.
Then you have the Vickery conundrum to think about also.
I think we can expose the Crows in the contested possessions and their defence if we're good enough.
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I'd give O'hanlon a run again.
Batch had a shocker today.
Grimes Morris and Foley would have to be pushing for selection.
I'm hopeful they are fit. :pray
Possibly Griffiths to play Centre Half Forward.
I endorse this message :gotigers
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I think Connors needs at least a month if only to be given the opportunity at some coach davvey promised sack sucking
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In: Grimes, Foley, Morris, Vickery
Out: Batchelor, Dea, Miller, O'Hanlon
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In: Grimes, Foley, Morris, Vickery
Out: Batchelor, Dea, Miller, O'Hanlon
Great minds think alike :thumbsup
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I would roll the dice and keep O'Hanlon in and drop Nahas. We can't afford to have Kingy and Nahas in the same side IMO. They are too similar in style.
Forwards:
Connors Griff(Swingman) O'Hanlon
Eddo Jack Kingy
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kingy and nahas are similar types????...their similarities end with their height.other than that they are chalk and cheese
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I would roll the dice and keep O'Hanlon in and drop Nahas. We can't afford to have Kingy and Nahas in the same side IMO. They are too similar in style.
Forwards:
Connors Griff O'Hanlon
Eddo Jack Kingy
Drop Nahas for a match at AAMI? No way.
Always kicks 3-4 goals there. Dimma won't drop him for this reason alone.
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kingy and nahas are similar types????...their similarities end with their height.other than that they are chalk and cheese
Please explain, both are crumbers IMO :huh
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I would roll the dice and keep O'Hanlon in and drop Nahas. We can't afford to have Kingy and Nahas in the same side IMO. They are too similar in style.
Forwards:
Connors Griff O'Hanlon
Eddo Jack Kingy
Drop Nahas for a match at AAMI? No way.
Always kicks 3-4 goals there. Dimma won't drop him for this reason alone.
I must admit he does have good form there.
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kingy is there as a defensive forward..One of his main roles is to keep the opposition from tip toeing throught the tulips out of our forward line.Nahas is purely an attacking forward
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kingy is there as a defensive forward..One of his main roles is to keep the opposition from tip toeing throught the tulips out of our forward line.Nahas is purely an attacking forward
I take your point but Eddo surely can fill Nahas's role. O'Hanlon and Connors offer difficult match-ups re height and versatility and are great kicks (unlike Nahas). Griff must be a better option then Miller. That leaves Kingy to fill the last (defensive) spot. 2 midget forwards is one too many IMO.
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i understand the mix on our forward line is probably a work in progress..However i think theres room for both kingy and nahas and edwards also.The main problem on our forward line in my opinion anyway is CHF..we have a problem in that vicks hasnt fired at all,and miller just lacks the ability to convert given the amount of scoring chances he gets.miller also has the problem that once the ball hits the ground hes shot...I agree that griff might be an answer at CHF.
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i understand the mix on our forward line is probably a work in progress..However i think theres room for both kingy and nahas and edwards also.The main problem on our forward line in my opinion anyway is CHF..we have a problem in that vicks hasnt fired at all,and miller just lacks the ability to convert given the amount of scoring chances he gets.miller also has the problem that once the ball hits the ground hes shot...I agree that griff might be an answer at CHF.
I reckon that the 3 small forwards will line-up against Adelaide in any case.
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the return of foley ,morris and grimes should help us out a lot....the other thing that probably does need attention is some help for maric..Dont know what others here think but to me hes begining to look tired.He does need some relief...which brings us back to vicks i guess
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the return of foley ,morris and grimes should help us out a lot....the other thing that probably does need attention is some help for maric..Dont know what others here think but to me hes begining to look tired.He does need some relief...which brings us back to vicks i guess
I noticed that his tap-outs were a little haphazard at times today but it is a brave man who 'slags' the 'Mullet' :shh....... ;D
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not slagging him at all...just saying he looks tired
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not slagging him at all...just saying he looks tired
I know. :)....and I agree he looks tired.....in fact so am I. Goodnight all :thumbsup
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isnt momentum a funny thing? after the st kilda game we were flying.2 weeks later we seem to have had some wind taken out of our sails.This is a very even competition and its very hard and maybe impossible to be on the boil for the whole season
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In.Grimes.Morris Foley
Out .45,24.7
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I think Connors needs at least a month if only to be given the opportunity at some coach davvey promised sack sucking
;D
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In.Grimes.Morris Foley
Out .45,24.7
On a dry track at AAMI against Adelaide's talls Griffiths presents another option for us in either 50.
Kid's played four games after a long lay off you are not going to drop him because the conditions haven't suited him in the last two weeks.
For me Foley, Morris, Vickery and Grimes come in.
The outs are a little harder.
Miller is a cert out and Batch would be on shaky ground had a real horror today.
The other two hmmmmmm. I could present a case for 3 or 4 on today's effort.
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Vickery had a really good game against the crows last time i really hope he finds some form he is important to us have a look at last years replay the thing i find is next year martin vickery and conca will all improve and that will really push us into deep into september
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We are dreaming if you think Vickery gets a game
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Can't drop Griffiths against Tippet and Walker need Rance Grimes and Griffiths all playing. If they put Jenkins in the ruck and send Jacobs down back we are stuffed for height.
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4 big inns against the crows.
We will have a full strength side for the first time this year
I expect us to win.
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With Vickery it depends on whether he is fit not whether he "deserves" a game. Not sure how bad his knee is
If fit Foley & Grimes are certainties.
I'd drop Batch as his form has really dropped away over the last few weeks
Also not sure on leaving O'Hanlon in there either really struggled yesterday when he came on
At least I got a fortnight to think about it ;D
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Morris .Grimes and Foley ins
45,24.7or 11 out ?
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foley morris vickery grimes
in for O'hanlon miller batchelor not sure on last one, but it wont be griffiths with tippett playing
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O miller jackson king
I foley morris grimes
Vickery -> ohanlon maybe too.
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In-Vickery, Foley, Grimes, Morris, Post
Out-Miller, Dea, Batchelor, Houli, O'hanlon
FB: morris rance newman
HB: grimes griffiths ellis
C: edwards cotchin conca
HF: connors vickery king
FF: post reiwoldt nahas
FOLL: maric martin deledio
INT: foley tuck grigg jackson
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In-Vickery, Foley, Grimes, Morris, Post
Out-Miller, Dea, Batchelor, Houli, O'hanlon
FB: morris rance newman
HB: grimes griffiths ellis
C: edwards cotchin conca
HF: connors vickery king
FF: post reiwolt nahas
FOLL: maric martin deledio
INT: foley tuck grigg jackson
Make five changes and we lose.
:(
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In-Vickery, Foley, Grimes, Morris, Post
Out-Miller, Dea, Batchelor, Houli, O'hanlon
FB: morris rance newman
HB: grimes griffiths ellis
C: edwards cotchin conca
HF: connors vickery king
FF: post reiwolt nahas
FOLL: maric martin deledio
INT: foley tuck grigg jackson
Make five changes and we lose.
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why? We'll make 3 or 4 at the very least. All for the better. But 1 more change will ruin it all? ;)
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In-Vickery, Foley, Grimes, Morris, Post
Out-Miller, Dea, Batchelor, Houli, O'hanlon
FB: morris rance newman
HB: grimes griffiths ellis
C: edwards cotchin conca
HF: connors vickery king
FF: post reiwolt nahas
FOLL: maric martin deledio
INT: foley tuck grigg jackson
Make five changes and we lose.
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why? We'll make 3 or 4 at the very least. All for the better. But 1 more change will ruin it all? ;)
I'm a mathematician, the stats tells me...
Make five changes and you lose.
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Definites:
In: Morris, Foley, Grimes, Vickery
Out: Batchelor, Ohanlon, King, Miller
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I agree with
Out: Miller, Dea, Batchelor, O'Hanlon
In: Grimes, Morris, Foley, Vickery
Adelaide game: Ellis the sub
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Definites:
In: Morris, Foley, Grimes, Vickery
Out: Batchelor, Ohanlon, King, Miller
You do know that we are 5 - 1 in wins when Kingy has played a full game this year and 1 -5 when he hasn't?
You might also not be aware that Richmond have lost 18 of the last 19 games Kingy has missed.
Jakey will be going nowhere except to AAMI.
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That's a really intresting stat glove. He may not contibute volumes in terms of disposals or goals. But add that extra spark we need on field.
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King's attitude has always been good and although he doesn't get much of the ball what he does with the ball and what he does when he doesn't have it is generally good
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King will find it hard to keep his spot in the mid/long term.
I find it hard to fit king in the side for next weeks game. If everyone fit i doubt king is best 22. Might be a good sub.
The form of edwards, possible rise of connors dont help his cause.
I feel at least one of nahas/king will be forced out before long.
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Will be interesting to see the next team sheet
Pretty much a full squad and 2 weeks to plot the downfall of the Crows
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Recon the game against Adelaide is huge for the boys. A win to keep the finals light burning is a must.
We need to pick a side purely for winning this game. But its more than picking the right side for the game, its about having a plan to beat them. Not just going in with the same old plan and hoping it works on the day.
My INS- Grimes (almost the most important player in the side for structure in the backline)
Morris (has been awesome this year with his desperation and run out of the backline)
Foley (under rated player for us, does a lot of the grunt work that doesn't always get the accolades but can get good footy also)
OUTS- Miller (just don't think he is the right bloke against the Crows, to slow and we need all forwards putting on huge forwardline pressure to stop their run out off the halfback)
Ellis (IMO along with a few others on here think he is playing scared at the moment, needs a few weeks back at Coburg playing on the ball to get some hard in and under touches. Needs to run and carry and use that great kick we first heard about and that endurance he showed through the pre season)
Batchelor (also needs some time at Coburg- went back earlier in the year, and when he got the call up again, played well. Just needs some confidence again. Also think with Grimes back and Rance and Griff in the back half, along with Dea, who i think is doing a great job back there, and Newman and Bach he may need to find another position. Could be a great lead up half forward flanker with those good hand and booming kicks)
So they are my ins and outs but the important thing for this game is to have a plan. One thing i would do is play Jack at CHF because Rutten will go to him if he plays FF and will stop him having much of an influence. I would play Dusty out of FF for most of the night, hopefully getting a mismatch and making Rutten useless.
Also would play Nahas on the wing, he seems to be able to find space there and become very creative going into the forward line.
So with Dusty at FF and Jack at CHF floating deep when he can, Kingy, Edwards would be the small forwards and i would play O'Hanlon and Conners as the lead up forwards and with O'Hanlon being a bit of the unknown could prove really valuable if he can snag a couple.
Really need to find other ways to kick goals, and stretch sides with pace or height or smarts or whatever we can. IMO we have been a way to predictable over the last few weeks.
Really looking forward to seeing how we come back after the bye and against a good side. :gotigers
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I think Vickery may return too
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Recon the game against Adelaide is huge for the boys. A win to keep the finals light burning is a must.
We need to pick a side purely for winning this game. But its more than picking the right side for the game, its about having a plan to beat them. Not just going in with the same old plan and hoping it works on the day.
My INS- Grimes (almost the most important player in the side for structure in the backline)
Morris (has been awesome this year with his desperation and run out of the backline)
Foley (under rated player for us, does a lot of the grunt work that doesn't always get the accolades but can get good footy also)
OUTS- Miller (just don't think he is the right bloke against the Crows, to slow and we need all forwards putting on huge forwardline pressure to stop their run out off the halfback)
Ellis (IMO along with a few others on here think he is playing scared at the moment, needs a few weeks back at Coburg playing on the ball to get some hard in and under touches. Needs to run and carry and use that great kick we first heard about and that endurance he showed through the pre season)
Batchelor (also needs some time at Coburg- went back earlier in the year, and when he got the call up again, played well. Just needs some confidence again. Also think with Grimes back and Rance and Griff in the back half, along with Dea, who i think is doing a great job back there, and Newman and Bach he may need to find another position. Could be a great lead up half forward flanker with those good hand and booming kicks)
So they are my ins and outs but the important thing for this game is to have a plan. One thing i would do is play Jack at CHF because Rutten will go to him if he plays FF and will stop him having much of an influence. I would play Dusty out of FF for most of the night, hopefully getting a mismatch and making Rutten useless.
Also would play Nahas on the wing, he seems to be able to find space there and become very creative going into the forward line.
So with Dusty at FF and Jack at CHF floating deep when he can, Kingy, Edwards would be the small forwards and i would play O'Hanlon and Conners as the lead up forwards and with O'Hanlon being a bit of the unknown could prove really valuable if he can snag a couple.
Really need to find other ways to kick goals, and stretch sides with pace or height or smarts or whatever we can. IMO we have been a way to predictable over the last few weeks.
Really looking forward to seeing how we come back after the bye and against a good side. :gotigers
I don't think a tall forward attack will win us the game either. Bring in Post and Vickery. We're wasting Posts career and a potent marking weapon down at Coburg. Bring them both in and just leave them there for the rest of the year please ;D
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hmm just the side i would like them to go with. know it wont happen
b/ morris - rance - grimes.
hb/ dea - griffiths - newman.
c/ grigg - martin - deledio
hf/ connors - post/elton - o'hanlon
f/ maric - riewoldt - edwards.
r/ browne/graham - cotchin = foley
int/ tuck - ellis - conca - houli.
ins - grimes morris foley would be automatic selections. post and one of brown/graham.
outs - king nahas miller, batchelor, jackson.
post/elton for miller lets say both a structural and development change.
grimes for batchelor whos badly out of touch. also adding some much needed height and options down back.
foley for jackson say no more.
browne/graham for king the simple expedient of going a tall for a small and allowing maric to spend significant time forward doing vickerys role.
morris for nahas. again different types but with three sml/ med forwards in the 18 theres no need for another.
to explain further. with edwards playing as a small forward and connors and ohanlon as medium forwards i certainly see no need for king or nahas. certainly not both of them anyway. nahas may be a sub option to provide run as a mid late in the game.
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Why on Earth would you use a game that we'll really need to chuck our best at to win, to use to 'develop' blokes? Also, King and especially Nahas have field days at AAMI.
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Why on Earth would you use a game that we'll really need to chuck our best at to win, to use to 'develop' blokes? Also, King and especially Nahas have field days at AAMI.
why because development never stops. who the hell says nahas and king are our best ffs edwards has shown em both up as a forward the last 5 weeks. connors has given more in one game as a forward than king has all yr. robbie nahas is a vfl standard player its only blind foolish deluded richmond supporters who rate him.
as i said morris foley and grimes are walk up starts. me im aiming to win so i went graham or browne and post to give the side some bloody decent structure and flexability forward and in ruck .
do we really need all of ohanlon, connors, edwards nahas and king as sml/med forwards. its not possible to play all 5, in fact you only need one sml forward.
so edwards is it he gets the gig over king and nahas who are really very limited ordinary players.
ohanlon at 189 can take a grab and moves real well gives something totally different to king and nahas.he will be more than needed structurally if we only go riewoldt and god forbid vickery. and can you drop connors after his game against gws he did more than enough to get another week.
you want to beat good sides stop playing glass half fulls or too many.
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The stats of Nahas and King at AAMI says they have rippers there. You know how you carry on like a brat about depth and needing back ups and such? Well that's why we have more than two or three of these sorts of players. Love how you keep bringing up Post. You must of been too busy chatting list management with Terry during round 1 and have missed every Coburg game to see this jet in action.
But sure, alienate yourself further by just calling anyone who you think does not agree with you names. Isn't that Craw logic? It seemed like I asked a pretty normal question. Eff wit.
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I for one like Nahas and King in the side , i love Kingy's harassment and the fact that defenders look over their shoulder wondering where the Mr MRP man is when they are sitting under the ball waiting for a mark . As for Nahas we would of not beaten St Kilda if he didn't go beserk like that in the 3rd quarter, he can break games open has great pace and nimble hands when on song .. Sure he hasn't found last years form but neither has Dusty or T.V
Jackson should be replaced ASAP and i do agree also we should have Gus in the side ( reward for solid form in the magoos )
Do love the fact we are arguing who to squeeze into the 22
Connors is no good to the club if he turns to his old ways he needs to back up last week or i will be on his back again
Agree Vickery does not deserve a go but have seen enough last year to know he is a beauty think he is trying to be like jack last year and play with injury and he does not have Jacks impact simple needs to be 100% fit
Special mention to Conca love his ball use and commitment F.J nailed this pick the boy is a star
Edwards is playing like a man possessed and is mouthing off and harassing defenders never saw it before this year
Ins - Grimes / Morris / Foley (if 100% fit)
Outs - Miller / Ellis / Batch
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Why on Earth would you use a game that we'll really need to chuck our best at to win, to use to 'develop' blokes? Also, King and especially Nahas have field days at AAMI.
why because development never stops. who the hell says nahas and king are our best ffs edwards has shown em both up as a forward the last 5 weeks. connors has given more in one game as a forward than king has all yr. robbie nahas is a vfl standard player its only blind foolish deluded richmond supporters who rate him.
as i said morris foley and grimes are walk up starts. me im aiming to win so i went graham or browne and post to give the side some bloody decent structure and flexability forward and in ruck .
do we really need all of ohanlon, connors, edwards nahas and king as sml/med forwards. its not possible to play all 5, in fact you only need one sml forward.
so edwards is it he gets the gig over king and nahas who are really very limited ordinary players.
ohanlon at 189 can take a grab and moves real well gives something totally different to king and nahas.he will be more than needed structurally if we only go riewoldt and god forbid vickery. and can you drop connors after his game against gws he did more than enough to get another week.
you want to beat good sides stop playing glass half fulls or too many.
Reading your posts is exhausting
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Footy Barometer - Round 14
Herald-Sun
June 26, 2012
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: The Tigers’ past two matches have been ordinary. A loss to Fremantle at home and a two-goal triumph over the Giants is nothing to cry home about. Young gun Brett O’Hanlon could be forced out after finishing with just one handball against GWS, while Brad Miller is also close to the edge after failing to hit the scoreboard.
ON THE CUSP: Dylan Grimes should be back this week and he’ll be a handy in with Adelaide’s towering forwards looming dangerous, particularly at AAMI Stadium. The rising star was in dominant form before tearing his hamstring against the Bombers. Speedster Matt White had 28 touches for Coburg in its stellar win under coaching gun Adam Potter, while swingman Luke McGuane kicked two goals to remain an outside chance of returning. White was booked in the VFL for front on contact and must beat that charge to remain eligible for a recall.
SAM LANDSBERGER’S FORECAST: The Tigers endured a frustrating start to the season, then went pow pow with some breathtaking footy and sliced open the Hawks before limping to the bye. Refreshed, they now face the Demons and Suns after this week’s bout with Adelaide so should turn 8-7. Then it’s the Roos and Carlton – and you can bank on those two matches setting up Richmond’s finals assault.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/footy-barometer-round-14/story-fncufbo5-1226408140395
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Here's my changes/team - (slightly different set up to the traditional)
FB Grimes Rance Morris
CHB Newman Houli Griffiths Dea
C Lids Foley Grigg
CHF King Edwards Connors
FF Vickery Riewoldt
Foll Maric Cotch Tuck
Int Nahas Conca Jackson Sub: Ellis or if not suspended - White
Emergency Webberley
We are setting up with an extra defender/midfielder behind the stoppages now days so that is the way I set up the team. Batchelor needs a rest imo. White and Webberley have shown good form but o'hanlon will probably retain this spot. Miller needs to make way for Vickery.
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Footy Barometer - Round 14
No mention of Foley, Morris or to a lesser extent, Vickery :P
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Footy Barometer - Round 14
No mention of Foley, Morris or to a lesser extent, Vickery :P
No Foley in those training thread pics. Morris was there today though.
In: Vickery, Morris, Grimes, (Foley if right)
Out: Miller, O'Hanlon, one of Batch/Griffs (possibly both if Foley plays)
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Bloody hell I hope Foley plays.
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Has anybody seen Foley train at all over the last few weeks?
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No.
As I posted 3 weeks ago,
Achillies injury not bruised heel
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No.
As I posted 3 weeks ago,
Achillies injury not bruised heel
Wasn't there an RFC video where they said Foley could have played against GWS but they didn't want to risk it?
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No.
As I posted 3 weeks ago,
Achillies injury not bruised heel
This is from the 22nd:
Injury Update
At June 22, 2012
Steven Morris - available
Nathan Foley - available
Tyrone Vickery - available
Matt Arnot (ankle) 1-2 weeks
Brad Helbig (foot) Indefinite
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/injury%20list/tabid/9411/default.aspx
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Wasn't there an RFC video where they said Foley could have played against GWS but they didn't want to risk it?
That was about Grimesy IIRC.
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Wasn't there an RFC video where they said Foley could have played against GWS but they didn't want to risk it?
That was about Grimesy IIRC.
Yeah it was.
I dont reckon they would have removed Foley from the injury list if he wasn't at least up for selection. Fingers crossed he's all good. We'll find out in 48 hours :shh
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some want white in the side. on a form basis that is fair enough so who gets the chop for him.
the way i see it we have lots like him. that is sml/med flankers who are going to be asked to rotate thru the middle but arent good mids.
edwards, king, nahas, jackson, connors all forwards and houli a defender. throw white in as another forward and we just add to the problem
id say edwards and connors are safe it leaves one spot for a forward. if white comes in all of king nahas and jackson should go.
on houli who does he replace down back.
dea i dont think so, newman wont happen, morris no way. and thats assuming batchelor is dropped. the back line structure or talls should and must go rance grimes and griffiths for now.
i for one struggle to fit houli in down back. imo hes going to have to learn to become a more rounded mid if hes to survive in the long term.
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Riewoldt he is crap
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Might sound dramatic but without Foley we are not change against the Crows midfield especially after last weeks wakeup call :help
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
Nathan Foley, Steven Morris and Tyrone Vickery missed the victory over Greater Western Sydney in round 12 because of injury but all are available to take on Adelaide this Saturday. The Tigers' season-long reluctance to make many changes to the line-up means they're unlikely to all make their way into the team at once. Vickery is likely to come in for Brad Miller or Brett O'Hanlon. Foley also is likely to come in but it's touch and go with Morris because the player he'd replace, Matt Dea, has done nothing wrong. Tall defender Jake Batchelor has been unconvincing but he might be saved by the threat posed by Adelaide key forwards Kurt Tippett and Taylor Walker.
-Paul Daffey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/139602/default.aspx
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Tall defender Jake Batchelor has been unconvincing because he's not a tall defender :lol
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
Nathan Foley, Steven Morris and Tyrone Vickery missed the victory over Greater Western Sydney in round 12 because of injury but all are available to take on Adelaide this Saturday. The Tigers' season-long reluctance to make many changes to the line-up means they're unlikely to all make their way into the team at once. Vickery is likely to come in for Brad Miller or Brett O'Hanlon. Foley also is likely to come in but it's touch and go with Morris because the player he'd replace, Matt Dea, has done nothing wrong. Tall defender Jake Batchelor has been unconvincing but he might be saved by the threat posed by Adelaide key forwards Kurt Tippett and Taylor Walker.
-Paul Daffey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/139602/default.aspx
Lol what a douche as if Morris won't come in. All of Morris, Grimes and Foley are automatic ins if fit. Can't believe that guy gets paid to write such garbage.
Clearly he has not seen Morris play this year.
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Tigers hope to get four big guns back
The Age
June 27, 2012 - 3:31PM
Richmond could be bolstered by four big guns for their clash with Adelaide as they press their claims for an AFL finals berth.
Defenders Dylan Grimes and Steven Morris are certainties to return from injury for Saturday's match at AAMI Stadium while midfielder Nathan Foley and key forward Tyrone Vickery must get through training tomorrow to play.
Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said it wasn't ideal to have to reshuffle his side so substantially but the quality of those players made it worth it.
"It's not ideal that you want to bring in four player but the quality of those players ... they're four very, very good players for us and we're looking forward to having them back in," he said.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-hope-to-get-stuff-20120627-2122t.html#ixzz1yySYN9yc
Hardwick's headache
By Paul Daffey
Wed 27 Jun, 2012
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick faces a selection headache ahead of Saturday's meeting with Adelaide at AAMI Stadium, with a quartet of key Tigers ready to return from injury.
The Tigers will monitor the leg injuries of Nathan Foley and Tyrone Vickery at training on Thursday, while Dylan Grimes (hamstring) and Steven Morris (shoulder) are expected to be available.
Grimes had missed four matches before playing a half for Coburg Tigers' senior team in its defeat of Collingwood last weekend.
"They're four very, very good players we look forward to getting back into the side," Hardwick said.
The selection of the four players would overturn the Tigers' policy this season of making as few changes as possible.
Daniel Connors' return in the match against Greater Western Sydney in round 12 brought to 29 the number of players the Tigers have played this season, which is the lowest tally in the competition.
Ladder-leader Collingwood, by contrast, has used 35 players.
Brad Miller, Jake Batchelor, Matt Dea and Brett O'Hanlon are among those who would be unlucky to lose their places from the team that defeated the Giants by 12 points.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/139711/default.aspx
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Why would Brad Miller be unlucky?
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Why would Brad Miller be unlucky?
cmon tucker!.... He kicked a bag for Coburg, don't you remember?
And let's not forget his dominant effort in the match against GWS. :whistle
:rollin
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why would matt dea get dropped what a joke. nfi.
miller is a spud but will likely get dropped for another spud in vickery. i really dont get it what the hell has vickery ever done in his career to earn such stellar treatment. if anything hes been worse than miller. why play either is the question i keep asking.
batchelor has been badly out of form but wait a minute so has vickery all yr. so that will mean he will be safe because hes one of the chosen few.
brett ohanlon is a 189cm medium forward lets see do we have anyone like him? hmm nope. this kid has been bent over and reamed. they would have been better off leaving him at coburg instead of getting 20 minutes a game for two weeks ffs lets give theese kids a decent crack at it when we do pick em.
grimes morris and foley are automatic inclusions.
for structure at least one more tall should be picked if not two.
grimes rance griffiths down back. riewoldt elton, i maric forward and graham in the ruck.
wht the hell pick vickery. why not reward good coburg form and pick graham or white for that matter. why dont we make all players when out of form go back and earn their spot back rather than just gifting them games week afer week to get nothing more than mediocrity out of them.
if graham is not to be promoted ever again which seems the case miller stays for another week but bring in elton for a game. just my opinion but i think development and list building is going backwards at a rate of knots.
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why would matt dea get dropped what a joke. nfi.
miller is a spud but will likely get dropped for another spud in vickery. i really dont get it what the hell has vickery ever done in his career to earn such stellar treatment. if anything hes been worse than miller. why play either is the question i keep asking.
batchelor has been badly out of form but wait a minute so has vickery all yr. so that will mean he will be safe because hes one of the chosen few.
brett ohanlon is a 189cm medium forward lets see do we have anyone like him? hmm nope. this kid has been bent over and reamed. they would have been better off leaving him at coburg instead of getting 20 minutes a game for two weeks ffs lets give theese kids a decent crack at it when we do pick em.
grimes morris and foley are automatic inclusions.
for structure at least one more tall should be picked if not two.
grimes rance griffiths down back. riewoldt elton, i maric forward and graham in the ruck.
wht the hell pick vickery. why not reward good coburg form and pick graham or white for that matter. why dont we make all players when out of form go back and earn their spot back rather than just gifting them games week afer week to get nothing more than mediocrity out of them.
if graham is not to be promoted ever again which seems the case miller stays for another week but bring in elton for a game. just my opinion but i think development and list building is going backwards at a rate of knots.
:clapping :gotigers :thumbsup now tone it down
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Looks like it will be 2 changes only: Grimes and Morris in, Miller and ??? out.
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If Grimes and Morris are the only ins
O'Hanlon and Dea would miss
If Foley was to play.Ellis might miss
Don't know about Vickery playing
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McGaune should play before Vickery
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McGaune should play before Vickery
I reckon Griff will 'swing' on the day depending on team balance.
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While the HUN & Age are suggesting Vickery & Foley are a chance to play
The Australian (Greg Denham) are saying both are UNLIKELY to play:
Wounded Tigers set to miss crucial Crows clash
by: Greg Denham
From: The Australian June 28, 2012 12:00AM
RICHMOND has been dealt a cruel blow in the lead-up to Saturday's AAMI Stadium encounter with Adelaide, with key forward Ty Vickery and midfielder Nathan Foley unlikely to play.
The Tigers were hoping Vickery would overcome a knee injury and that Foley (bruised heel) would pass a fitness test, but last night they were all but ruled out.
Vickery did not play against the Giants before the bye after taking a midweek tumble from his bike and requiring 10 stitches in his injured knee.
Foley's recovery has taken longer than initially expected as he has not played since the Tigers defeated St Kilda in round 10.
However, defenders Dylan Grimes and Steven Morris appear certain to return from injuries.
Grimes (hamstring) has not played at the elite level since round eight, but played part of a game in the VFL last weekend. Morris (shoulder) missed the win over GWS.
...The addition of Grimes will be welcomed as Crows full-forward Kurt Tippett appears likely to play after being substituted early in last Sunday's loss to North Melbourne with concussion.
Full article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/wounded-tigers-set-to-miss-crucial-crows-clash/story-fnca0u4y-1226410527610
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As I have said.longest bruised heel of all time ::)
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&$@# !!!
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No Foley = No Chance :(
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No Foley = No Chance :(
Extremely disappointing.
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As I have said.longest bruised heel of all time ::)
As I said when he they first stated that he had a bruised heel: It is a very tricky injury and he could be away longer than expected.
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McGaune should play before Vickery
I reckon Griff will 'swing' on the day depending on team balance.
I think you would be spot on.
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I've had a bruised heel before and it hurt.
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
In light of your fabulous prediction last week, "miller will kick 8 goals"!
How many do you think he will kick this week?
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
He may still come out. I expect Conca to come in for him given the weather. ;)
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
He may still come out. I expect Conca to come in for him given the weather. ;)
Highly unlikely ;)
;D
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
(http://pichars.org/store/8339_original_YesJackNicholson.gif)
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Feel the Miller LLLLUUUUURV :cuddles
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As I have said.longest bruised heel of all time ::)
You are aware bruised heel can involve tearing the fascia and ligaments under your foot? Can take up to a year to heel in some cases
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
(http://pichars.org/store/8339_original_YesJackNicholson.gif)
;D :yep
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
:thumbsup :shh
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
lol hes a dud has always been a dud and remains a dud. there is nothing to be gained by playing him the only reason hes getting a game is every other tall forward has been as poor as him out side of jack and has been poo for a good chunk of the yr.
anyone ever stop to think this yr. sheesh if we had just one more decent tall forward this yr we might be in the 8.
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
lol hes a dud has always been a dud and remains a dud. there is nothing to be gained by playing him the only reason hes getting a game is every other tall forward has been as poor as him out side of jack and has been poo for a good chunk of the yr.
anyone ever stop to think this yr. sheesh if we had just one more decent tall forward this yr we might be in the 8.
What is this? How dare you >:(
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Feel the Miller LLLLUUUUURV :cuddles
Coach trying to get in on some 3-way loving at the Miller household, Dooks?
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Gotta Luv how most had Miller out ;)
Agree :lol Can't believe these blokes can't see that he's doing his job. I have come around to him, does all the team things does Brad. Gives a nice handball out the back and puts on a nice block. Has the ability to lead up hard @ the footy and create space for others (something Vickery struggles with). Brings the footy to ground for the crumbers. All about the team is Milzy.
Would get a game for any team in the comp :thumbsup
How many brad going to get? 5/6 20 touches
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Feel the Miller LLLLUUUUURV :cuddles
Coach trying to get in on some 3-way loving at the Miller household, Dooks?
We really need an emoticon for that...
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sheesh davey, that must be the best fishing expedition in ages
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sheesh davey, that must be the best fishing expedition in ages
He aint fishing
He's seen da light
:bow :bow :bow
:rollin :rollin :rollin
:jump
:eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
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:shh
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Conca in Adel with the team. No great surprise as they had to take at least one emergency
Source: RFC Twitter - if I knew how to post the pic using this useless iPad I would ;D
I'm sure Mr OE will next time he's around :cheers
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Conca in Adel with the team. No great surprise as they had to take at least one emergency
Source: RFC Twitter - if I knew how to post the pic using this useless iPad I would ;D
I'm sure Mr OE will next time he's around :cheers
80% chance of rain tomorrow.
In Conca, out Miller please.
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Get the red haired wog in , he's a beauty ....
His attack on the ball is sensational for his age
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You might find Conca is booked on the 7pm flight out of Adelaide on Saturday night then the 3 hour drive to Warnanbool on Sunday morning
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I hope you are wrong mate i dont understand a bloke getting dropped for having 22 disposals in the wet and not playing too bad at that either , his ball use hasn't been that bad seriously ... Ellis doing the helicopter kick in the Defensive 50 last quarter stood out more to me
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Get the red haired wog in , he's a beauty ....
His attack on the ball is sensational for his age
forza italia
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If its wet i can see conca in for miller or griff :shh
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Class of '10 :clapping
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80% chance of rain tomorrow.
In Conca, out Miller please.
Let's hope so. With Miller up forward with his Queen Mary turning circle once the ball hits the deck we are effectively one player short at the fall of the ball allowing the opposition to rebound. Not the way to improve our forward 50 scoring efficiency.
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Class of '10 :clapping
;D
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Weather forecast for Adelaide now including chance of thunderstorms, hail and winds 25-35kph from late morning til late afternoon, on top of the expected 90% chance of rain and up to 10mm.
It's gonna be wet lads.
Surely conca will come in?
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Geez i hope so, we look a very tall squad
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Forecast: http://www.bom.gov.au/sa/forecasts/adelaide.shtml
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Who gives a flying rats arse...FFS Tiges, go there, play hard footy, WIN,?
End of story.
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Geez i hope so, we look a very tall squad
Sheesh, we don't have enough structure and are lacking 1-2 extra talls in the side at least. When you factor in half of the talls are glass half full limited types, well sheesh