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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 24, 2012, 04:43:00 AM
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Lloyd reckons will finish 10th with 12 wins.
The home stretch
Matthew Lloyd
The Age
June 24, 2012
IT'S been an amazing season so far. We have just about seen it all with tight games and some surprise packets — and still we are only halfway.
At the start of this round, just two games separated West Coast, which is on top of the ladder, and Geelong, which is in seventh position, and six clubs looked to be fighting it out for the last spot in the top eight. No one can predict the grand finalists or top eight with any confidence, and Melbourne, Greater Western Sydney and Gold Coast look to be the three clubs trying to avoid the wooden spoon.
Some players, such as Patrick Dangerfield (Adelaide), Lewis Jetta (Sydney), Ivan Maric (Richmond) and Mitch Clark (Melbourne) have had amazing seasons and are among the most improved, while Chris Yarran (Carlton), Colin Sylvia (Melbourne), Michael Rischitelli (Gold Coast) and Lindsay Thomas (North Melbourne) need to lift.
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With the season at the mid-point my Brownlow Medal tip would be Bomber skipper Jobe Watson from the Suns' Gary Ablett, while my Rising Star fancy is the Giants' Jeremy Cameron.
Here's how the clubs look to me.
Richmond
R12: Six and six.
At the end: 12 and 10.
The Tigers have had the toughest draw of any side and should be pleased with the improvement in the list. Ivan Maric and Steven Morris have been brilliant recruits and the Tigers squad looks to be in the best shape for years. If finals don't come this year, they'll come next year as they are playing with more consistency and substance.
Lloyd's end of round 23 ladder
Collingwood 72
Adelaide 72
West Coast 68
Sydney 64
Hawthorn 64
Essendon 60
Geelong 52
Fremantle 52
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Carlton 48
Richmond 48
St Kilda 44
North Melb. 36
W.Bulldogs 32
Port Adelaide 28
Brisbane Lions 24
Melbourne 16
Gold Coast 4
GWS 4
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Fremantle won't make it. Not good enough and too inconsistent.
I will lose my shet if Carltank take 8th spot and we come 9th.
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Fremantle won't make it. Not good enough and too inconsistent.
I will lose my shet if Carltank take 8th spot and we come 9th.
I thought that too, but then I saw their draw......
Collingwood
Bulldogs
Melbourne
GWS
Port
They win 4 of the next 5 and momentum should carry them over the line
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Fremantle won't make it. Not good enough and too inconsistent.
I will lose my shet if Carltank take 8th spot and we come 9th.
I thought that too, but then I saw their draw......
Collingwood
Bulldogs
Melbourne
GWS
Port
They win 4 of the next 5 and momentum should carry them over the line
That's why next week is so important for us. If we beat Adelaide and they lose to Collingwood it will put us 1 game and percentage ahead of them.
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Freo are poo and do not deserve to play finals. We would be a far more dangerous proposition in the finals.
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Freo are poo and do not deserve to play finals. We would be a far more dangerous proposition in the finals.
errrrr.....
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12 wins and miss the finals
Only Richmond :chuck
Awww geeee
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Freo are poo and do not deserve to play finals. We would be a far more dangerous proposition in the finals.
Keep your eyes on your fries William
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Lloydy is pretty close to the mark. Face reality people, we will not make finals.
I find it pretty funny that somet think we will just breaze past the likes of Buldogs and Nought when we could only beat GWS by 2 goals.
That Freo loss will come back to haunt us
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North belting the crows as we speak!
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North belting the crows as we speak!
and Melbourne didn't find it as hard to beat GWS as we did.
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North belting the crows as we speak!
and Melbourne didn't find it as hard to beat GWS as we did.
Melbourne would have lost at Skoda on that day.
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North belting the crows as we speak!
and Melbourne didn't find it as hard to beat GWS as we did.
Melbourne would have lost at Skoda on that day.
once again though it is the usual excuses, we all know what we think of velvet but to be honest I rate these outside opinions and if we are to go anywhere we have to do something about it......
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Lloydy is pretty close to the mark. Face reality people, we will not make finals.
I find it pretty funny that somet think we will just breaze past the likes of Buldogs and Nought when we could only beat GWS by 2 goals.
That Freo loss will come back to haunt us
The past 2 weeks have hurt our chances, fact is even when we were poo, you'd back us to beat freo here most times. We had a chance to put our noses in front Of the pack the past 2 weeks but dropped a needless 4 points and much needed percentage, all the more galling when you see lowly Melbourne trouncing gws and the kangas getting back into the race with a surprise win over the crows.
Bloody he'll - ah well just not quite ready for the heat of finals yet
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
im sure come Round 24 the club will be thinking the same if they miss out on finals by %
Good sides win and win well in any weather.
Against Freo it was the weather, against the hawks this year and last it was the weather, against GWS it was the weather.
bla bla bla
Stats mean squat if you dont win and win well when you have the chance. We also smashed the Bombers in contested, I50 and scoring shots yet still lost.
Based on your theory if it rains in Adelaide we should beat them right?
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bla bla bla
have a cry baby
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
Scoreboard mate,
I agree coulda, shoulda, woulda but ultimately didn't
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yes scoreboard , and last i saw we won, in bloody dreadfull conditions, :banghead
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Did GWS play in those conditions as well?
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
im sure come Round 24 the club will be thinking the same if they miss out on finals by %
Good sides win and win well in any weather.
Against Freo it was the weather, against the hawks this year and last it was the weather, against GWS it was the weather.
bla bla bla
Stats mean squat if you dont win and win well when you have the chance. We also smashed the Bombers in contested, I50 and scoring shots yet still lost.
Based on your theory if it rains in Adelaide we should beat them right?
WTF are you on about daniel? We beat hawthorn, quite comfortably this year.
As for the game against GWS, the difference between a narrow win and a large win was the giants exceptional kicking for goal and our very poor kicking for goal. besides that we beat them comfortably in play.
bad goal kicking also cost us against freo.
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
im sure come Round 24 the club will be thinking the same if they miss out on finals by %
Good sides win and win well in any weather.
Against Freo it was the weather, against the hawks this year and last it was the weather, against GWS it was the weather.
bla bla bla
Stats mean squat if you dont win and win well when you have the chance. We also smashed the Bombers in contested, I50 and scoring shots yet still lost.
Based on your theory if it rains in Adelaide we should beat them right?
WTF are you on about daniel? We beat hawthorn, quite comfortably this year.
As for the game against GWS, the difference between a narrow win and a large win was the giants exceptional kicking for goal and our very poor kicking for goal. besides that we beat them comfortably in play.
bad goal kicking also cost us against freo.
Exactly, and that will likely cost us, not sure why ppl are getting so defensive about the criticism of letting a golden opportunity slip?
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
I agree :thumbsup
Our games plan currently relies on our foot skills. In wet weather we can not execute that plan correctly which means greater turn overs and less run and carry from our outside midfielders. Additionally our midfielders then find it equally difficult to find a forward target. Other teams do not plan the same style and therefore are not as effected. It is not an excuse, it is a reality.
Fremantles defensive game plan potency is magnified in wet weather while GWS's contested/big numbers around the stoppages is also increased. Watch the Melbourne game again from yesterday and you will notice that the Giants tried to crowd the stoppages to stop the Dees quick ball movement cutting through the congestion and into space. In dry conditions we would have done that even better than the lowly Demons.
The weather, coupled with an absent Foley, really hurt us over the last two weeks but don't write us off yet....
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This year really is an interesting one.
Just when you think that freo were back, bam! they come to a screeching halt.
Thought the bombers were struggling?.... Wham! they smash freo away.
Think the kangas are shot??....whack! They give the crows a hiding.
You think the lions are easybeats?...Boom! Smash the dogs down here.
So many teams fighting for a finals place it really is a great season.
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Smashed GWS did we :huh I was there and yes I am sure youse watched, but there was a very distinct possibility 1/2 way through the last qtr we were gunna lose and that is the bottom line.
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Smashed GWS did we :huh I was there and yes I am sure youse watched, but there was a very distinct possibility 1/2 way through the last qtr we were gunna lose and that is the bottom line.
I guessing your referring to my comments CUB. Excuse me if you're not. Where did anyone say we 'smashed' GWS? We were lucky to win but you have to take the circumstances into account as I mentioned above. We were unlucky not to have them in better conditions so we could have improved our percentage but to their credit they were far better in those conditions and, in particular, converting in front of goal in those conditions. So credit where credit is due.
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
I agree :thumbsup
Our games plan currently relies on our foot skills. In wet weather we can not execute that plan correctly which means greater turn overs and less run and carry from our outside midfielders. Additionally our midfielders then find it equally difficult to find a forward target. Other teams do not plan the same style and therefore are not as effected. It is not an excuse, it is a reality.
Fremantles defensive game plan potency is magnified in wet weather while GWS's contested/big numbers around the stoppages is also increased. Watch the Melbourne game again from yesterday and you will notice that the Giants tried to crowd the stoppages to stop the Dees quick ball movement cutting through the congestion and into space. In dry conditions we would have done that even better than the lowly Demons.
The weather, coupled with an absent Foley, really hurt us over the last two weeks but don't write us off yet....
Good teams have a plan b and can adapt.... In wet weather it's been the same blueprint for over 100 years KISS keep it simple stupid...
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
I agree :thumbsup
Our games plan currently relies on our foot skills. In wet weather we can not execute that plan correctly which means greater turn overs and less run and carry from our outside midfielders. Additionally our midfielders then find it equally difficult to find a forward target. Other teams do not plan the same style and therefore are not as effected. It is not an excuse, it is a reality.
Fremantles defensive game plan potency is magnified in wet weather while GWS's contested/big numbers around the stoppages is also increased. Watch the Melbourne game again from yesterday and you will notice that the Giants tried to crowd the stoppages to stop the Dees quick ball movement cutting through the congestion and into space. In dry conditions we would have done that even better than the lowly Demons.
The weather, coupled with an absent Foley, really hurt us over the last two weeks but don't write us off yet....
Good teams have a plan b and can adapt.... In wet weather it's been the same blueprint for over 100 years KISS keep it simple stupid...
We're not there yet..... :(
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eff the score board , we smashed the giants, we played them in shocking conditions and still pumped them in contested footy possession
i50 and scoring shots, on a dry day we would have won by 100plus
im sure come Round 24 the club will be thinking the same if they miss out on finals by %
Good sides win and win well in any weather.
Against Freo it was the weather, against the hawks this year and last it was the weather, against GWS it was the weather.
bla bla bla
Stats mean squat if you dont win and win well when you have the chance. We also smashed the Bombers in contested, I50 and scoring shots yet still lost.
Based on your theory if it rains in Adelaide we should beat them right?
WTF are you on about daniel? We beat hawthorn, quite comfortably this year.
As for the game against GWS, the difference between a narrow win and a large win was the giants exceptional kicking for goal and our very poor kicking for goal. besides that we beat them comfortably in play.
bad goal kicking also cost us against freo.
im making a point that weather played no part in the GWS game. It was their endeavour that nearly lost us the game.
Weather is a rubbish excuse. Last year Hawks smashed us in the wet this year we smashed them
If we came to play we shouldve been able to beat GWS by more than 2 goals just like Melbourne did.
Lets discuss this thread after Rd 24
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Freo are poo and do not deserve to play finals. We would be a far more dangerous proposition in the finals.
errrrr.....
what's your issue, old timer?
Yes, they beat us in a sludge fest, but that victory was more ass than class. We are a better team than them and would be a more worthy finals competitor.
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Did GWS play in those conditions as well?
yeay they did, had only 14 scoring shots to our what einstein, they just had a day out where luckily everything went through the goal and we missed, it happens , but we bloody domnated the game, stuff the scoreboard
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I actually agree with what you're saying Username, but remember bad kicking is bad football.
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I actually agree with what you're saying Username, but remember bad kicking is bad football.
you can't have your username and eat him too.
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Did GWS play in those conditions as well?
yeay they did, had only 14 scoring shots to our what einstein, they just had a day out where luckily everything went through the goal and we missed, it happens , but we bloody domnated the game, stuff the scoreboard
Did we win by 12 points?
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Took the foot off the pedal and toyed with them
Eased up going into the bye after two wet weeks
Perfectly stage managed ;D
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I think we won by two goals but it may have been 100 points. I'm not sure.
Blinky Bill's dad could tell us
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So could Dookie's magic pudding
I heard we won by a lot of i50s
That's where it counts champ
Ask the pud
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I actually agree with what you're saying Username, but remember bad kicking is bad football.
you can't have your username and eat him too.
I agree, but disagree. :shh
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So could Dookie's magic pudding
I heard we won by a lot of i50s
That's where it counts champ
Ask the pud
Scoreboard. Two goal win against 2nd worst team in Comp. Pull heads in.
Idiots. Nuffers. Richmond supporters.
Guys.
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So could Dookie's magic pudding
I heard we won by a lot of i50s
That's where it counts champ
Ask the pud
Scoreboard. Two goal win against 2nd worst team in Comp. Pull heads in.
Idiots. Nuffers. Richmond supporters.
Guys.
:gotigers