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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Phil Mrakov on June 28, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
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Out: Conca Batchelor O'Hanlon
In: Grimes Morris Elton
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Ins: Morris Grimes Elton
Outs: Conca Batchelor O'Hanlon
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Dunno why Conca is out.
Disappointed that there's no Foley.
Congrats to Elton, better option than Vickery at the moment.
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RFC website all outs have been omitted
Conca :gobdrop
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RFC website all outs have been omitted
Conca :gobdrop
Harsh
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Good to see Elton in, was superb at Coburg last week :thumbsup
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Surprised about Conca. His game aginst GWS was okay. He is good at getting contested footy. Congrats to Elton. Good to see Morris and Grimes back. Not suprised Batchelor dropped. Hope Foley comes back soon
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What BS ... Conca will be missed
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lets hope RC gets back
on the bike, cant believe
he has been omitted.
funny places football clubs..
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Good to see Elton in, was superb at Coburg last week :thumbsup
But you said he needed to improve his disposal before he played in the AFL ;D
Seriously though glad to see another debutant
But staggered they've dropped Conca :gobdrop
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The stuffed up thing is Miller is still in the side :banghead
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Woah, didn't see Conca coming. Unless they're resting him for a hard run home. No Foley and Conca might hurt a bit. Adelaide won't know how to account for Elton, or us playing a 3-prong forward line since we haven't done it in a while. Might throw a bit of a spanner in Adelaide's planning. That's unless he's sub which would be the obvious thing being his debut game... but would be an interesting selection for a sub.
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Conca out?? Miller still in???????????We may see Morris tried in the midfield and forward rotations :thumbsup
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Emergencies are :
Conca, O'Hanlon & Derrickx
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The stuffed up thing is Miller is still in the side :banghead
Miller's playing because Vickery isn't
Must have been a nasty fall of that bloody bike ;D
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no conca or foley, and no replacements, means we will lose the midfield battle quite comfortably
crows by 7-8 goals
:birthday
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good luck EJ lets hope
he is the surprise packet.
batchelor personally has been
struggling all year.
interesting game coming up
i can hear the knives been sharpened. :gotigers
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Richmond
B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, Chris Newman
HB: Bachar Houli, Ben Griffiths, Matt Dea
C: Shaun Grigg, Dustin Martin, Daniel Jackson
HF: Brett Deledio, Brad Miller, Shane Edwards
F: Jake King, Jack Riewoldt, Robin Nahas
Foll: Ivan Maric, Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck
I/C: Daniel Connors, Steven Morris, Brandon Ellis, Todd Elton
Emg: Reece Conca, Tom Derickx, Brett O'Hanlon
In: Dylan Grimes, Steven Morris, Todd Elton
Out: Reece Conca, Jake Batchelor, Brett O'Hanlon
New: Todd Elton (Dandenong Stingrays)
Adelaide
B: Sam Shaw, Ben Rutten, Michael Doughty
HB: Brent Reilly, Daniel Talia, Nathan van Berlo
C: David Mackay, Rory Sloane, Bernie Vince
HF: Jared Petrenko, Taylor Walker, Chris Knights
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Matthew Wright
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Scott Thompson, Patrick Dangerfield
I/C: Richard Douglas, Brodie Martin, Brodie Smith, Ian Callinan
Emg: Ricky Henderson, Luke Brown, Josh Jenkins
In: Chris Knights, Brodie Smith
Out: Shaun McKernan, Matthew Jaensch
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/team%20announcement/tabid/16481/default.aspx
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How long has it been since the interchange bench looked as good?
:cheers
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
You might be onto something there Rune Dawg.
Forecast for Adelaide on Saturday is rain and 13 degrees
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
doubt it Ruanaidh as the the only other option to give a chop out in the ruck is griffiths, which i doubt would happen with his injury history. ( not that miller is much of an option), plus they haven't played ducks and drakes like that at all, that i can recall.
if miller doesnt play derrickx will most probably come in
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
doubt it Ruanaidh as the the only other option to give a chop out in the ruck is griffiths, which i doubt would happen with his injury history. ( not that miller is much of an option), plus they haven't played ducks and drakes like that at all, that i can recall.
if miller doesnt play derrickx will most probably come in
Now I know this is a big call....but......Elton has Rucked in his junior games and played a blinder against a quality AFL Ruckman (whose name I can't recall) when he played for an AIS side.
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Derickx has played permanent back at Coburg last few weeks, he wont come in
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After watching the Freo and GWS games during the week again, Conca had to go.
Too many turnovers and silly frees.( 4 against Freo )
although had 16 and 22 disposals
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
doubt it Ruanaidh as the the only other option to give a chop out in the ruck is griffiths, which i doubt would happen with his injury history. ( not that miller is much of an option), plus they haven't played ducks and drakes like that at all, that i can recall.
if miller doesnt play derrickx will most probably come in
Now I know this is a big call....but......Elton has Rucked in his junior games and played a blinder against a quality AFL Ruckman (whose name I can't recall) when he played for an AIS side.
Yep. Elton is a Forward/2nd Ruck :thumbsup
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
doubt it Ruanaidh as the the only other option to give a chop out in the ruck is griffiths, which i doubt would happen with his injury history. ( not that miller is much of an option), plus they haven't played ducks and drakes like that at all, that i can recall.
if miller doesnt play derrickx will most probably come in
Now I know this is a big call....but......Elton has Rucked in his junior games and played a blinder against a quality AFL Ruckman (whose name I can't recall) when he played for an AIS side.
considering that;
as far as i know he has not rucked for coburg,
and
in his interview he said that he has been told that because he is not a massive figure to stay off and be active rather than locking on, I really cant see that happening
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He's got a massive leap, Al
whoa, probably just jump right over the top :shh
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
If wet definately, miller barey touched it against gws
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Don't know why Conca is out, Grimes must play on Tippett.
Good luck Elton, great to see.
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He played for the AIS against the Bendigo Bombers
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He's got a massive leap, Al
whoa, probably just jump right over the top :shh
if plays ruck he will need to, or they'll be calling for the Bruce Reid sticky tape.
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I think it's great that they're trying a big tall youngster. Really great move by the club. I wish Elton all the best in his first game. Let's hope it all clicks for him and he kicks a few goals. :pray
I think it's stupid that Miller keeps his spot. Did nothing against skinny kids at GWS. :banghead
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Miller will be a last minute out for Conca.
You might be onto something there Rune Dawg.
Forecast for Adelaide on Saturday is rain and 13 degrees
I agree given that Tippett is named but he may not play. :shh
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I reckon we'll get flogged. Crows by 60+
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Good to have Grimesy the weirdo back. Well done to Elton too.
Miller :outtahere
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Think we are real show in this game ;D
Wonder who they will send to Thompson? Tuck or Jacko?
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Think we are real show in this game ;D
Wonder who they will send to Thompson? Tuck or Jacko?
Jacko :outtahere
Shame to see Hardwick concede already :(
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He's got a massive leap, Al
whoa, probably just jump right over the top :shh
if plays ruck he will need to, or they'll be calling for the Bruce Reid sticky tape.
He's about 95kgs, reckon he'll be fine
The coaches don't want him wrestling in the fwd line because they want him on his bike using that elite whoa endurance and whoa pace taking big whoa marks
Whoa this kid :shh
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Forecast for Adelaide on Saturday is rain and 13 degrees
No Foley, no conca now and wet weather against another team who prides themeselves on the contested ball and getting plenty of players around the ball..... :help We struggled against worse teams than Adelaide in the wet. When are we going to get a break with the weather :banghead
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Really wish we has two of Miller.
The fact that we don't means 60+point loss coming up
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Really wish we has two of Miller.
The fact that we don't means 60+point loss coming up
Maybe even 3. One at full forward (push Jack out to a pocket or to Coburg), one at CHF and the other at centre half back (played great footy there for the Dees).
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That actually makes a lot of sense when one thinks about structures and the adaptability Miller has shown.
Is a team man is Miller. Gets the job done :clapping
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Just finished reading the team sheet twice and I can tell you I definitely read Miller's name twice
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Whoa :shh
Is a monty to jag two bags of 8
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just...Whoah
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Really wish we has two of Miller.
The fact that we don't means 60+point loss coming up
Maybe even 3. One at full forward (push Jack out to a pocket or to Coburg), one at CHF and the other at centre half back (played great footy there for the Dees).
Being Brad Millarvich
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Ins: Morris Grimes Elton
Outs: Conca Batchelor O'Hanlon
Couple of unlucky boys there, not sure conc and batch did too much wrong to deserve an axing, its called depth :shh
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Ins: Morris Grimes Elton
Outs: Conca Batchelor O'Hanlon
Couple of unlucky boys there, not sure conc and batch did too much wrong to deserve an axing, its called depth :shh
i respect your opinion but have you watched the last 2 games Conca and Batch have played.
Well from my perspective they have deserved being dropped. Dropped marks, Missed Tackles. Both of them have played rubbish since the Saints game.
Conca has performed marginally better than Ellis so wouldve preferred he get dropped instead.
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Conca was one of our best against GWS Daniel.
Batchelor had a nightmare last few weeks but the Conca axing has been boggling.
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Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
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Conca hasn't been that bad but I agree Ellis looks a bit tired after a tough first half of the season, bare in mind all them have had a break now and should be rejuvenated, revved up and ready to fix those sook trash crows up for stitching King up. I can't wait.
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Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.
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Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.
Our recent Port record in AAMI is what may help our overall figures. 4 out of our last 6 since 2006.
We have beaten the Crows once (last year) at AAMI since 1999.
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hooray elton gets a gamne.
only one question has he banged the door down. dont get me wrong we need to promote kids but sort of flys in the face of what a lot of people have been preaching. we dont have a genuine must earn it policy. what we have is a great need to get games into younger players still so on that hooray.
what i dont like to see is elton as the sub. ffs if we are to promote em give em a decent crack at it. lets not do with elton what we did with ohanlon. oh and people are kidding themselves if they think elton will get thrown into the ruck what a waste that would be.
shame miller never got the arse and graham/derickx got a game.
cant believe conca got dropped, and im gobsmacked that people continue to want to drop ellis as well.
backline has real structure with rance grimes and griffiths.
griffiths to tippett, rance to walker and grimes third tall as the third man up and support player to both rance and griffiths. morris will start back along with dea and newman.
forward structure should be
riewoldt ff, elton in a pocket for the whole freakin game, and miller at chf. when ivan needs a rest miller will have to be it lol.
dont agree with the policy of playing three glass half full runt forwards who lack polish in edwards nahas and king. at least one should be dropped for conca.
would have given ohanlon a full game regardless of form what the eff are they up to. win lose which is likely or draw the structure is more what we should be aiming at if elton gets a full game.
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Really wish we has two of Miller.
The fact that we don't means 60+point loss coming up
Maybe even 3. One at full forward (push Jack out to a pocket or to Coburg), one at CHF and the other at centre half back (played great footy there for the Dees).
Don't forget he gives off a nice handball out the back
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I really hope and expect a late change
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You know the only thing I don't like about this club is as follows:
Every bloody year we have one player the gets a regular game for no good reason. The annouying part of it all is that the club and some of our supporters try to justify why these players get a game. It's stange how it's so obvious to most of us but to our coaching panel they just can't see it.
Here is a list of players who have been gifted games for so called justified reasons. Make up your own mind.
Brad Miller
Justification = He is a great foil for Jack Riewoldt and he blocks and creates space for Jack. Great team man who helps to teach the younger players.
Truth = He avoids the contest and goes missing constantly. He doesn't work enough and fails to lead and take his direct opponent away from the contest. Because of this his opponent is able to float back and cover Jack's leading space so poor jack is constantly cover by 2 or three opponents. The fact that he gets a game and does nothing just prevents a younger player getting a spot.
Mitch Farmer
Justification = He is an elite kick who can pin point targets out of defence with his powerfull kicking.
Truth = He refused to man up his opponent which cost us goals constantly. He barely ever got a kick because he was spectator with a poor work rate.
Angus Graham
Justification = He has a big body which we need in the centre bounces.
Truth = He can't jump off the ground. He never wins the hitouts at AFL level and when he does win hitouts they don't go to advantage. In fact it felt like they went to our opposition more often then not.
Cam Howat
Justification = He is an outside elite runner with elite kicking skills.
Truth = He was far from an elite kick and more like a turnover merchant. He was an elite runner that is correct but his nickname the Boundry Rider explains where he did most of his running. He never manned up an opponent and he refused to go near a contest. He wasn't just an outside player, he should have been commentating on the sidelines.
Jordan McMahon
Justification = He gives us great run and carry from defence and has elite disposal.
Truth = I can't even bare to speak the truth with this guy he was so bad. I will leave it up to you.
There have been so many more over time but my point here is this. Why does this always happen at Richmond? Are we just stupid or what?
Would this be allowed happen at Collingwood?
Miller :wallywink. Put your money on the Crows this week.
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Obviously you haven't heard of Daniel Jackson crackertiger? :shh
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Lol your right! Give us your justification and then the truth about Jackson
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Lol your right! Give us your justification and then the truth about Jackson
Justification= Is an on field leader who can tag and get his own footy to boot.
Truth= Gives away silly frees at critical times and misses clutch goals butchers the ball most of the time and is not damaging in the least due to his disposals being so haphazard. Has no footy smarts and would be an average VFL player.
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That's exactly what I mean! :banghead
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Lol your right! Give us your justification and then the truth about Jackson
Justification= Is an on field leader who can tag and get his own footy to boot.
Truth= Gives away silly frees at critical times and misses clutch goals butchers the ball most of the time and is not damaging in the least due to his disposals being so haphazard. Has no footy smarts and would be an average VFL player.
your justification is way too kind. when was the last time he did a job as a tagger on a good player. hes failed in most roles when he fails in his latest role he will be gone.
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Miller and jacko = inbreds will raoe us
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HB: Bachar Houli, Ben Griffiths, Matt Dea
This is the weakest HB line we have named all year. Houli is the only ball getter, so they will make him accountable to someone. They are going to need extra help at HB. I'm very worried we are going to get cut up there.
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hooray elton gets a gamne.
only one question has he banged the door down. dont get me wrong we need to promote kids but sort of flys in the face of what a lot of people have been preaching. we dont have a genuine must earn it policy. what we have is a great need to get games into younger players still so on that hooray.
what i dont like to see is elton as the sub. ffs if we are to promote em give em a decent crack at it. lets not do with elton what we did with ohanlon. oh and people are kidding themselves if they think elton will get thrown into the ruck what a waste that would be.
shame miller never got the behind and graham/derickx got a game.
cant believe conca got dropped, and im gobsmacked that people continue to want to drop ellis as well.
backline has real structure with rance grimes and griffiths.
griffiths to tippett, rance to walker and grimes third tall as the third man up and support player to both rance and griffiths. morris will start back along with dea and newman.
forward structure should be
riewoldt ff, elton in a pocket for the whole freakin game, and miller at chf. when ivan needs a rest miller will have to be it lol.
dont agree with the policy of playing three glass half full runt forwards who lack polish in edwards nahas and king. at least one should be dropped for conca.
would have given ohanlon a full game regardless of form what the eff are they up to. win lose which is likely or draw the structure is more what we should be aiming at if elton gets a full game.
And how many VFL games have you watched???
VFL is about developing the players and teaching them to stick to the 'structures'.. Just as Gourdis was being named in the bests for Coburg but not being able to stick to the structure, players aren't named in the best that 'do' stick to the structure.. He has obviously done whats required.. Elton is a talented player and will play that hit up forward that we need.
Geez you dribble on sometimes..
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Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.
Unfortunately the jokers posing as experts in our MC have nfi Lozza >:(
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Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.
Unfortunately the jokers posing as experts in our MC have nfi Lozza >:(
Yep those off-field in our MC can take a good hard look at themselves as well. Lack of options really hurt us when we needed to change things up in the 2nd half. With Kingy going down we were stuck with leaving both Miller and Elton on. Only one should have played first of all. I'd still like to know why Conca was dropped?
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Conca knows the back structure better than ellis is more experienced am all for both in the side but ffs dropping him b4 Ellis and keeping miller in is tanking in my eyes .... Lucky i need glasses
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Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.
Unfortunately the jokers posing as experts in our MC have nfi Lozza >:(
Yep those off-field in our MC can take a good hard look at themselves as well. Lack of options really hurt us when we needed to change things up in the 2nd half. With Kingy going down we were stuck with leaving both Miller and Elton on. Only one should have played first of all. I'd still like to know why Conca was dropped?
hmm sort of agree but sort of dont.
what i dont get is why hardwick did nothing. miller gave nothing all day why was rutten allowed to play on a first gamer their biggest strongest best and most experienced defender played on a first gamer and we allowed it to happen.
while we allowed it to happen blokes like shaw and smith just ignored miller and ran of him all day or went and helped talia out.
riewoldt got not only talia but two other defenders all day yet we could not find a free tall forward i really dont get how this can happen and continues to happen.our mids either have no vision or the other talls are not working hard enough. its likely a combination of both.
some options we did have but for what ever reason failed to try them. why did we not send ivan forward i know it would have been a roll of the dice. or why didnt we throw one of the tall defenders forward we had a spare as adelaide only went with tippett and walker. we could then have had ivan play a kick behind the play. we did nothing.
i firmly believe two kpfs is the way to go and have a third tall option with a ruck/forward. ideally vickery would fill the ruck/forward role if he reaches his potential. jack is a ff we need to find a chf and getting a game into elton or playing griffiths or astbury when fit is the right way to go win or lose.
atm vickery is not the answer so why dont we tweak it just a bit play ivan more forward and bring in another ruckman who rotates of the bench. or why not try a genuine ruck/forward despite his form in derickx.
i too would like to know why conca was dropped surely he had a niggle. batchelor i can understand his form has been poor. i know ellis had maybe his quitest game for the yr but i would not drop him unlike some i reckon hes done more than should be expected of a first yr player.
conca and foley would make a huge difference to our mids but that just shows up how thin on the ground we are for them.
finally i think we lost the game in defense just as much poor disposal and decision making rance again got badly beaten i dont know if ive ever seen a player go to ground so much or get caught out of position so much.
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Good thing dropping batch conca
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Big mistake dropping Batchlor & Conca for the Adelaide game. Also blooding a new player Elton against the Crows on thier home ground is not wise :o
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Got no probs blooding a new player. We can't have our game selection and player development dictated to out of fear of losing to that extent.
But to combine this with playing shot guys like Miller and out of form Ellis and the same time, as well as leaving Conca out is scoreboard suicide.
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Got no probs blooding a new player. We can't have our game selection and player development dictated to out of fear of losing to that extent.
But to combine this with playing shot guys like Miller and out of form Ellis and the same time, as well as leaving Conca out is scoreboard suicide.
Leaving Conca out when we already were missing Foley was certainly suicidal as far as expecting the midfield to match up against one of the competition's strongest. Thompson, Dangerfield, Sloane, Vince were always going to be a tough gig and going in with a weakened midfield was only going to make it all that much harder.