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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 30, 2012, 06:18:34 PM
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Kingy injured so there's likely to be at least one forced change.
Fire away ......
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Miller out with omission sickness
Conca in where he belongs
O Hanlen and vickery to saddle up
king out nahas out
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Brad Miller for a used empty twistie packet.
Out: Miller, King, Nahas, Ellis
In: Vickery, Foley, Conca, White
I'd leave Elton in the side, match committee need to be accountable and leave him in for anotehr game. If they drop him after serving up that crap putting him in the fwd line with ghost Miller and not moving him off Rutten for 3 qtrs then they can get stuffed.
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Supposed to be dry next weekend....
Outs:- King, Miller, Ellis, Nahas
Ins:- Conca, Foley :pray.... Ohanlon, Vickery?
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Conca, foley, batchelor and Vickery in
king, miller, Connors and 1 more out
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Conca, foley, batchelor and Vickery in
king, miller, Connors and 1 more out
I dont reckon connors deserves to be dropped and can possibly still add something to a forward line that lacks tricks
Miller elton and king will be the outs
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As long as Miller is out i dont care who for.. bring in the big girl if we have to
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As long as Miller is out i dont care who for.. bring in the big girl if we have to
:clapping :clapping
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Out: Elton, Miller, Dea, King
In: Vickery, Foley, Conca, Batchelor
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OUT: Miller, Elton, Ellis (Rest) King (Inj)
IN: McGuane, Foley, Conca, Batchelor
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Ins White Graham McGaune
Outs.take your pick
We don't have a "swing man" someone you can play forward and back
Need a back up ruckman as well
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McGuane to play forward Jack?
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If he played today .at least he would give us a contest
Have a look how many marks Crows too inside our F 50 today
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no one has been happy with our forward setup this year...
Remember tyrone saying we expect to kick 100 between us this year lol
i think he needs to wake the stuff up
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I'll go be more detailed when I get home but first and foremost they have to drop Ellis. Was deplorable today. People have said alot over the last few weeks he is playing scared. Was there for all to see today at AAMI- sadly. Can't carry that anymore. Season is on the line now. Actually it's on life support
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I'll go be more detailed when I get home but first and foremost they have to drop Ellis. Was deplorable today. People have said alot over the last few weeks he is playing scared. Was there for all to see today at AAMI- sadly. Can't carry that anymore. Season is on the line now. Actually it's on life support
Yep, I've been saying it for weeks. How could the match committee not see this :huh He is only young and will improve this part of his game but now we need seasoned bodies and minds if we are going to have a shot at making the eight. Miller can give him a lift to Coburg next week.....oh, and throw Nahas, drive-in style, in the boot!
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Miller never to return. King injured. Ellis was poor today.
Vickery if fit Foley we need him badly! Conca would have been handy today.
Need our best side out there otherwise season will peter out to a mundane conclusion like 28 of the last 30 have. :help
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I'll go be more detailed when I get home but first and foremost they have to drop Ellis. Was deplorable today. People have said alot over the last few weeks he is playing scared. Was there for all to see today at AAMI- sadly. Can't carry that anymore. Season is on the line now. Actually it's on life support
if ellis goes for that reason so does houli then.
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Miller never to return. King injured. Ellis was poor today.
Vickery if fit Foley we need him badly! Conca would have been handy today.
Need our best side out there otherwise season will peter out to a mundane conclusion like 28 of the last 30 have. :help
you want our best side out there well it does not include vickery atm. sheesh miller was better today than anything vickery has offered up. thats not to say we should not drop miller but surely we can try another option other than vickery lets not keep on going thru the revolving door.
what is wrong with saying to a few of these blokes you want your spot back then bloody earn it. vickery for miller atm would be treading water and im sure we can tweak things or god forbid try someone different.
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Vickery has been worse than Miller( if that's possible )
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Miller never to return. King injured. Ellis was poor today.
Vickery if fit Foley we need him badly! Conca would have been handy today.
Need our best side out there otherwise season will peter out to a mundane conclusion like 28 of the last 30 have. :help
you want our best side out there well it does not include vickery atm. sheesh miller was better today than anything vickery has offered up. thats not to say we should not drop miller but surely we can try another option other than vickery lets not keep on going thru the revolving door.
what is wrong with saying to a few of these blokes you want your spot back then bloody earn it. vickery for miller atm would be treading water and im sure we can tweak things or god forbid try someone different.
You know what Claw at least Vickery would have had a shot in the same position as Miller 1 minute into the second quarter. As I have mentioned changed the game and that is unacceptable at any level of footy let alone senior AFL. Anything Vickery has done or has not done this season pales into insignificance to that one moment of lunacy from Miller.
As far as I am concerned Vickery has more upside than that aforementioned disaster. I could not care less if Humphrey B Bear gets a guernsey next week as long as Miller's is in Coburg's colours just get your glasses on for a sec and while I do acknowledge that Ty has been terrible I would rather play a kid like Ty or O'Hanlon or Elton or whoever than play Miller and maybe I am hoping he gets back to his 2011 form and that is why I am selecting Ty because on that form and the fact he can give Maric a chop out in the ruck is why he must be in our 22.
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Miller never to return. King injured. Ellis was poor today.
Vickery if fit Foley we need him badly! Conca would have been handy today.
Need our best side out there otherwise season will peter out to a mundane conclusion like 28 of the last 30 have. :help
you want our best side out there well it does not include vickery atm. sheesh miller was better today than anything vickery has offered up. thats not to say we should not drop miller but surely we can try another option other than vickery lets not keep on going thru the revolving door.
what is wrong with saying to a few of these blokes you want your spot back then bloody earn it. vickery for miller atm would be treading water and im sure we can tweak things or god forbid try someone different.
You know what Claw at least Vickery would have had a shot in the same position as Miller 1 minute into the second quarter. As I have mentioned changed the game and that is unacceptable at any level of footy let alone senior AFL. Anything Vickery has done or has not done this season pales into insignificance to that one moment of lunacy from Miller.
As far as I am concerned Vickery has more upside than that aforementioned disaster. I could not care less if Humphrey B Bear gets a guernsey next week as long as Miller's is in Coburg's colours just get your glasses on for a sec and while I do acknowledge that Ty has been terrible I would rather play a kid like Ty or O'Hanlon or Elton or whoever than play Miller and maybe I am hoping he gets back to his 2011 form and that is why I am selecting Ty because on that form and the fact he can give Maric a chop out in the ruck is why he must be in our 22.
i totally understand where your coming from im no miller fan either. but like i said no more revolving doors if miller goes and i agree he should try someone different to vickery or something different.
at some stage all of our senior players have to set the bar at a decent level and if they cant reach that level they dont play.
have said bring graham in play him 65% of the time in the ruck plonk big ivan in a pocket play jack and give elton another game.
another option would be move griffiths forward and play post at chb another option would be give derickx a game.all im saying is for once lets just make sure badly performing senior players actually have to go back and work on their games and actually earn a game.
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dont pencil in axel.
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I believe Connors Miller and Houli should never be seen in a tiger guernsey again
They are list cloggers with limited ability
I blame Hardwick for today's loss for playing these types of players :
lumps, alcoholics and turnover kings
If B Gale was on the money he would get Malthouse and clear out Baby face Dimmer
No other club would ever put Miller or Connors in their team but Dimmer seems to find room for them each week
How does Tabouli get in the team before Reece Lightning Conca?
Tabouli and Newman can't make tackles stick yet they get games.
We're unprofessional and we need to make Chimp Cotchin captain and get rid of all our sad recent history
A Pick 55 is captaining our club He's played 200 games and never played in a final
We are an embarrassment to ourselves let alone the football fraternity
Dimmer get fair dinkum or get out otherwise you'll be another Spud and Terry saga
I've had enough honorable losses for three decades
These losses are really DIShonourable because you stuff it up in the selection room every time in crunch games
You're dishonest to the tiger fans and stakeholders so wipe that smile of your face and increase your professionalism because enough is enough
RFC
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
RFC
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Jackson houli.king nahas miller connors
Aarnot batchelor conca ohanlon moore verrier
If fit foley for the skipper.
Vickery needs to pull the finger out
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
RFC
Eight posts are also enough from a frogcake troll.
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Out Dimma
Coached terrible yesterday
Didn't want to change things when the game was slipping away
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Miller out with omission sickness
Conca in where he belongs
O Hanlen and vickery to saddle up
king out nahas out
Miller joke underrated ;D
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How on earth would Vickery get a game next week.
He has to go to Coburg and gain some form as the other players do . eg Matty White
If Batchelor and Conca have to play at Coburg and find form, so does Vickery
Sorry, I find it unbeleivable that people want him back.
Yes , I want him back via COBURG
It seems as different rules for different players
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Vicks will be ok - it's just a case of 4th year blues :pray
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Brad Miller for a used empty twistie packet.
Out: Miller, King, Nahas, Ellis
In: Vickery, Foley, Conca, White
I'd leave Elton in the side, match committee need to be accountable and leave him in for anotehr game. If they drop him after serving up that crap putting him in the fwd line with ghost Miller and not moving him off Rutten for 3 qtrs then they can get stuffed.
how do you move a forward off a backman?
switch him down back?
move him to the bench?
do you really think that getting a forward to move to a different area in the forward line his backman wont follow him :huh
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Out: Miller, King, Ellis
In: Vickery, Foley, Conca
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Who gives a crap...after yesterday it doesn't really matter, we are poo.....play who you want...we don't deserve finals. We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
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:clapping ;D
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Out: Hardwick
In: Malthouse/Roos
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
Is it unreasonable to expect a win when you are 33points up? it unreasonable to believe you will win when you are kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the final quarter with a 14 day break behind you as opposed to your opponents short break?
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
Is it unreasonable to expect a win when you are 33points up? it unreasonable to believe you will win when you are kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the final quarter with a 14 day break behind you as opposed to your opponents short break?
No sir
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
Is it unreasonable to expect a win when you are 33points up? it unreasonable to believe you will win when you are kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the final quarter with a 14 day break behind you as opposed to your opponents short break?
X100
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
It's official. This statement was brought to you by a clearly focused non delusional thought process :clapping
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
It's official. This statement was brought to you by a clearly focused non delusional thought process :clapping
It's official, typical Tigers supporters accepting pathetic performances....
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
Is it unreasonable to expect a win when you are 33points up? it unreasonable to believe you will win when you are kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the final quarter with a 14 day break behind you as opposed to your opponents short break?
No it's not but to judge our season and future under the current regime on that game is totally unreasonable, just like Geelong found out with Thompson when his team of kids was riding the same bumpy road our kids currently are. And as far as the 14 day break goes, more sides coming off that break have lost rather than won so form says the break only helps after a game back. At this stage of our renaissance, unreasonable expectations cause a desire to blame and sack everyone and everything in sight as soon as a result doesn't go our way - reasonable expectations allow for just how hard it is and long it takes to rebuild a complete AFL list from scratch, to teach every single player on that list how to play and win, and consequently understand that the losses, while they might be galling and frustrating, are also necessary and unavoidable. Reasonable expectations will allow you to sleep a lot easier at night too. ;D
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my observations on yesterdays game are that we have a glaring gap at centre half forward that needs one the youngsters to step up(soon)..i dont so much mean elton as he is only in his first season but certainly Ty or griff and i would throw in asbury as well.secondly we have missed nathan foley like you wouldnt believe.i think that cotches slight drop in form lately might be due to nathan not being there and taking some of the heat.
I also think it was so obvious yesterday that once kingy went off, our attack on the ball and the man dropped away considerably.Kingy leads by example and others follow.His attack on both the ball and the man yesterday was outstanding and had me leaping out of my seat.I dont really care whether he kicks goals or not his forward defensive pressure is something to behold.
I also think we have a problem down back not so much with our talls but certainly with our mid sized palyers..i think Dea yesterday did some really silly things that resulted in them getting goals.yes he is young and hopefully will learn.The other problem down back in my opinion is houli.it seems to me that at times he can be a little shy in his attack on the ball,and i get the feeling opposition clubs now understand this...my one big change for next week and its more a hope than anything else is that nathan foley gets back ASAP
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
It's 30 years for us WAT but it's not 30 years for the coaches and players, they have only been living the 'dream' for a couple of years and in that time they have done a fantastic job already, turning around the biggest basket case of a list and club culture that the AFL has probably ever seen to a point where they have allowed us 30 year+ supporters to have these expectations. The mistake many of our supporters are making is assuming or expecting that the success will come quickly and without setback because they compare our rebuild to that of other clubs who had a restart point so much further advanced that it is like comparing apples to oranges.
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one other thing i forgot...i think daniel connors is so unfit.watching him yesterday suck it in just confirmed this
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one other thing i forgot...i think daniel connors is so unfit.watching him yesterday suck it in just confirmed this
If only he hadn't consumed all that grog over the last couple of years!
Would be a gun footballer if it were the early 90's.
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and if it was the 70s i reckon he would be all australian and a triple brownlow medallist..My how times change.and if it was the 40s jack dyer would have taken out the back of Punt road and beaten the living suitcases out of him for his indescretions
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
It's 30 years for us WAT but it's not 30 years for the coaches and players, they have only been living the 'dream' for a couple of years and in that time they have done a fantastic job already, turning around the biggest basket case of a list and club culture that the AFL has probably ever seen to a point where they have allowed us 30 year+ supporters to have these expectations. The mistake many of our supporters are making is assuming or expecting that the success will come quickly and without setback because they compare our rebuild to that of other clubs who had a restart point so much further advanced that it is like comparing apples to oranges.
I don't think our apples and oranges are any different to the Bombers, Hawks, Eagles, Crows etc... And they are a mile ahead of us because they believe in themselves.
Even North, the Dogs, Freo.....are mentally stronger than us with a better culture...
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
Is it unreasonable to expect a win when you are 33points up? it unreasonable to believe you will win when you are kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the final quarter with a 14 day break behind you as opposed to your opponents short break?
That post TM encapsulates the mood. More questions than answers being raised. I haven't felt as hollow after a loss as I have felt for this one. WIth the others I could find something this one is just one of those losses we get every season that sticks a dagger into your heart.
But we must press on.
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
You sure the crowd got to them. Didn't hear much in the first quarter.
The day we replace blokes like Miller Connors gets a right foot or gets delisted.
Jako cleanly gets a ball and doesn't delay when he kicks it or gets delisted just to name a few.
As I said yesterday alot of other reasons why we lost but the one that started the chain of events that followed was Miller's about face and kick into traffic when dawdling into an open goal. Remove that and we might be posting something different today.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
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Out: Hardwick
In: Malthouse/Roos
Back to the crap again torch.
Funny you haven't posted this poo in months.
Nice to see you out of hibernation.
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one other thing i forgot...i think daniel connors is so unfit.watching him yesterday suck it in just confirmed this
If only he hadn't consumed all that grog over the last couple of years!
Would be a gun footballer if it were the early 90's.
If he had a right foot we might have won that game. Memo our seventh point late in the third.
He didn't need fitness if he had a right foot just stand there and kick it.
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
Is it unreasonable to expect a win when you are 33points up? it unreasonable to believe you will win when you are kicking with a 3 goal breeze in the final quarter with a 14 day break behind you as opposed to your opponents short break?
No it's not but to judge our season and future under the current regime on that game is totally unreasonable, just like Geelong found out with Thompson when his team of kids was riding the same bumpy road our kids currently are. And as far as the 14 day break goes, more sides coming off that break have lost rather than won so form says the break only helps after a game back. At this stage of our renaissance, unreasonable expectations cause a desire to blame and sack everyone and everything in sight as soon as a result doesn't go our way - reasonable expectations allow for just how hard it is and long it takes to rebuild a complete AFL list from scratch, to teach every single player on that list how to play and win, and consequently understand that the losses, while they might be galling and frustrating, are also necessary and unavoidable. Reasonable expectations will allow you to sleep a lot easier at night too. ;D
That's the thing smokey, I'm not judging on that game only, I'm judging on 6 losses this season which in essence have been eerily similar. Of course you can't win them all, but by the same token you shouldn't lose them all. A young developing side should show an inclination to learn and get better from it, we have shown we are not learning as we continue to lose in the same fashion.
We have built a competitive list, we have shown we are no longer an uncompetitive afl side probably quicker than I thought tbh, however there's a difference between being competitive and losing honorably vs literally choking and throwing away wins.
I mentioned somewhere else that the losses against Geelong, wce, freo and yesterday were unacceptable. We lost in close ones against the bombers, Carl and pies as well but those losses i can accept. Geelong we had the wind and the lead, wce were playing with no bench and had a witches hat out on field in the final qtr, yet we still couldn't get over the line, against freo in melbourne u should never lose end of story and u shouldn't lose games when you are so dominant and up by 6 goals like yesterday, not to mention have the breeze. Thats what I am now judging this team on, they are chokers and have thrown away a golden opportunity to play finals football in 2012 and I'm stuffing peeed ;D
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We still have that pathetic week minded thought process!!
Who are you talking about WAT - players, coaches or supporters? Because I can mount much much more of a case for it being many of our supporters rather than the players or coaches. Unreasonable expectations are a prime indicator of a weak minded thought process.
30 years smokey....30 stuffing years of watching insipid performances from week minded players. The pressure got to them, the crowd got to them, the lead thy had played on their minds......week, just week!
When the bloody hell after 30 years do YOU expect our week minded approach and playing style to change...Let's give them another 30 eh mate....ffs. Give me a break!
It's 30 years for us WAT but it's not 30 years for the coaches and players, they have only been living the 'dream' for a couple of years and in that time they have done a fantastic job already, turning around the biggest basket case of a list and club culture that the AFL has probably ever seen to a point where they have allowed us 30 year+ supporters to have these expectations. The mistake many of our supporters are making is assuming or expecting that the success will come quickly and without setback because they compare our rebuild to that of other clubs who had a restart point so much further advanced that it is like comparing apples to oranges.
here here well said the current journey was never going to be a three yr journey more like an 8 yr one to get the ultimate prize.
with nothing else involved at all, lets say we turned over 10 players every yr for 5 yrs. if we found 6 players each yr that would be a fantastic result. thats 5 yrs to find 30 players and that is at an accelerated pace. it doesnt even take into account the time it takes to develop injuries retirements and any set back you may have ie go home factors attitude etc. it also ignores compromised drafts and massive concessions to new teams.
hardwick has about 15 players left from the wallace days and i can tell ya it is highly likely in the short term at least half of them will not be there. the rebuild is a massive task when coming from such a low base and quite frankly 5 yrs is not long enougfh.
we are on the right path but it is still only early days imo.
at the end of this yr with a reasonable base of sorts a new 5 yr plan to win a gf would be reasonable that may mean no finals for two yrs.
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8 stuffing years, are you kidding Claw...8 years, OMFG...this is the sort of typical Tiger supporter rubbish that I can't believe. Bloody hell...8 years...?????
Why can other teams turn it around in under 3 years but we need 8..... Geezus stuffing Geez!
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Claw is speaking poo and I don't even need to read his post. 8 years, what a wank. We'll play finals next year. Maybe even this year. We should win our next 3 games with ease. Over to you, Damien and players.
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if WW2 can be fought and won in 6 years,surely it shouldnt take a football club 8 years to rebuild...i reckon 3 years is enough rebuilding after that youd want to see results(finals) and pronto too
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Claw is speaking poo and I don't even need to read his post. 8 years, what a wank. We'll play finals next year. Maybe even this year. We should win our next 3 games with ease. Over to you, Damien and players.
Loving your work today Coach, you old stuff.
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Am just warming up Cocky, you little bastard.
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That's the thing smokey, I'm not judging on that game only, I'm judging on 6 losses this season which in essence have been eerily similar. Of course you can't win them all, but by the same token you shouldn't lose them all. A young developing side should show an inclination to learn and get better from it, we have shown we are not learning as we continue to lose in the same fashion.
I would counter that by saying we are learning, that in seasons past we would have thrown the towel in after losing a couple that way and gone on to lose the next couple by heaps. Not one blowout this year and a much better win loss ratio and percentage to R14 (after a much harder draw) - we are learning heaps but the proof of that will not be immediate.
We have built a competitive list, we have shown we are no longer an uncompetitive afl side probably quicker than I thought tbh, however there's a difference between being competitive and losing honorably vs literally choking and throwing away wins.
I mentioned somewhere else that the losses against Geelong, wce, freo and yesterday were unacceptable. We lost in close ones against the bombers, Carl and pies as well but those losses i can accept. Geelong we had the wind and the lead, wce were playing with no bench and had a witches hat out on field in the final qtr, yet we still couldn't get over the line, against freo in melbourne u should never lose end of story and u shouldn't lose games when you are so dominant and up by 6 goals like yesterday, not to mention have the breeze. Thats what I am now judging this team on, they are chokers and have thrown away a golden opportunity to play finals football in 2012 and I'm stuffing peeed ;D
They are not chokers, they are kids learning what is required to win regularly at senior AFL level. There is a huge difference but it suits the agenda of some to disregard where we have come from and what we have had to do in order to just get where we are today. None of us accept losses but for this season I'm tolerant of the fact that we will have them and the fact that we are having the type of losses we are makes me very confident that we're on the right path. Teaching our kids to not "choke" will prove to be the easiest task for the coaches to do - the hard yards and basics are in getting them to that point and look at us after only 2 and a half seasons since the lowest point a modern day AFL club has ever sunk to - we are already almost there! And they haven't thrown away a golden opportunity to play finals football in 2012 - we are still very very much in that race but even if we don't make it this year there is no harm done to the team, only to the supporters who are struggling with the concept of how much is required to succeed in our rebuild. Not the Hawthorn rebuild, not the Essendon rebuild, not the West Coast rebuild but the Richmond rebuild, the one that no team has ever had to do in the history of the AFL.
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I don't think our apples and oranges are any different to the Bombers, Hawks, Eagles, Crows etc... And they are a mile ahead of us because they believe in themselves.
Even North, the Dogs, Freo.....are mentally stronger than us with a better culture...
Disagree. They are slightly ahead of us because they have a better balance of age, strength and experience. We beat Hawthorn and led all the others into the last quarter - that doesn't scream "mile ahead of us" to me.
And really WAT, North, Dogs and Freo are mentally stronger than us? That comment makes me laugh to be honest - how mentally strong were the Bulldogs in R3 when they lost to St Kilda by 63 points, or R10 when they lost to the Swans by 92 points, or R13 when they lost to Brisbane by 58 points, or R14 when they lost to Essendon by 86 points? How mentally strong were North in R8 when they lost to Port by 2 points after leading by 27 points in the last quarter, or R13 when they lost to Hawthorn by 115 points? How mentally strong were Freo in R2 when they let the Swans get 45 points in front before failing to catch them, or R5 when they let Carlton get 30 points in front before failing to catch them, or R8 when they lost to Hawthorn by 56 points, or R9 when they lost to West Coast by 48 points, or R10 when they lost to Adelaide by 29 points after leading by 3 points in the last quarter (gee, that game has a sense of deja vu about it), or R13 when they lost to Essendon by 24 points after leading at 3/4 time? Really WAT? Mentally stronger than us? Give me a break.
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Eight posts on a foot ground are plenty
Bye Jayden
The last of Terry's little pussies
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That's the thing smokey, I'm not judging on that game only, I'm judging on 6 losses this season which in essence have been eerily similar. Of course you can't win them all, but by the same token you shouldn't lose them all. A young developing side should show an inclination to learn and get better from it, we have shown we are not learning as we continue to lose in the same fashion.
I would counter that by saying we are learning, that in seasons past we would have thrown the towel in after losing a couple that way and gone on to lose the next couple by heaps. Not one blowout this year and a much better win loss ratio and percentage to R14 (after a much harder draw) - we are learning heaps but the proof of that will not be immediate.
We have built a competitive list, we have shown we are no longer an uncompetitive afl side probably quicker than I thought tbh, however there's a difference between being competitive and losing honorably vs literally choking and throwing away wins.
I mentioned somewhere else that the losses against Geelong, wce, freo and yesterday were unacceptable. We lost in close ones against the bombers, Carl and pies as well but those losses i can accept. Geelong we had the wind and the lead, wce were playing with no bench and had a witches hat out on field in the final qtr, yet we still couldn't get over the line, against freo in melbourne u should never lose end of story and u shouldn't lose games when you are so dominant and up by 6 goals like yesterday, not to mention have the breeze. Thats what I am now judging this team on, they are chokers and have thrown away a golden opportunity to play finals football in 2012 and I'm stuffing peeed ;D
They are not chokers, they are kids learning what is required to win regularly at senior AFL level. There is a huge difference but it suits the agenda of some to disregard where we have come from and what we have had to do in order to just get where we are today. None of us accept losses but for this season I'm tolerant of the fact that we will have them and the fact that we are having the type of losses we are makes me very confident that we're on the right path. Teaching our kids to not "choke" will prove to be the easiest task for the coaches to do - the hard yards and basics are in getting them to that point and look at us after only 2 and a half seasons since the lowest point a modern day AFL club has ever sunk to - we are already almost there! And they haven't thrown away a golden opportunity to play finals football in 2012 - we are still very very much in that race but even if we don't make it this year there is no harm done to the team, only to the supporters who are struggling with the concept of how much is required to succeed in our rebuild. Not the Hawthorn rebuild, not the Essendon rebuild, not the West Coast rebuild but the Richmond rebuild, the one that no team has ever had to do in the history of the AFL.
We'll agree to disagree then.
I agree we have come from a ridiculously long way back and I commend the club on that but that is now inconsequential, what matters is the now and right now we have shown we are good enough to be in the 8 and have simply blown it. Forget next year and the one after, I'm talking now, too many things can go wrong in any given season to plan meticulously for a specific year, when chances come u must take them, look at the hawks when they pinched it in 2008, the crows in 1997.
I have said several times now several of those losses you couldn't have scripted it better for us to win it, each and every time we didn't have the mental fortitude to go on with it. I personally think that's a clear indication of mental weakness in the group.
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b/ morris - rance - grimes
hb/ dea - griffiths newman.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio
hf/ ohanlon - riewoldt - martin
f/ edwards - elton - i maric.
r/ graham - cotchin - foley
int/ conca - jackson - ellis - houli/connors.
ins ohanlon, foley, conca, graham
outs/ miller, king, nahas, one of houli/connors.
ohanlon for king. foley for nahas. conca for either houli or connors, graham for miller.
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8 stuffing years, are you kidding Claw...8 years, OMFG...this is the sort of typical Tiger supporter rubbish that I can't believe. Bloody hell...8 years...?????
Why can other teams turn it around in under 3 years but we need 8..... Geezus stuffing Geez!
took geelong 7 and thats from a much better base. took hawthorn 7 and some say they were lucky.
carlton have been going for 10 yrs and still dont look like winning one. it took collingwood 7 yrs and that was coming from a gf base in 03. 7 or 8 yrs to win a gf is very realistic. it is realistic that we may not make finals until hardwicks 5th yr. its all damn realistic if we go by what other sides have done and where they had to come from.wce won it in 06 if they dont make it this yr it will mean at least 7yrs to make another one and thats with a shedload of premiership players still in their side.
look we may make finals this yr we may not. but who in his right mind thinks finals are a monty this yr or next yr when all the kpis are considered.
8 yrs to go from a side in 09 compared to fitzroy at its worst or was that 2010 to a premiership turning over probably 95% of your list in the first 5 yrs yes 8 yrs is totally realistic.
it is very realistic that we may not make the 8 next yr that would mean we wait to hardwicks 5th yr to make it.
im not saying its impossible to make finals next yr or even this yr but even if we do make them the kpis wont change. only time and development will allow them to change along with good recruiting.
you asked for a time frame to success imo i gave you a realistic one basedon our list and where we are coming from and importantly based on how long other sides have taken and where they had to come from.
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Out: Hardwick
In: Malthouse/Roos
Back to the crap again torch.
Funny you haven't posted this poo in months.
Nice to see you out of hibernation.
Back to the crap like Richmond.
Nope, still do.
Was starting to slightly believe our coach might have a game plan after the St Kilda match, then the Fremantle match brought us back to this "crap" ...
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With King and Jacko out it would seem that the likes of Nahas and Miller will survive one more week. White will surely have to come in as will Conca.
Does anyone know what good there was in Conca being the travelling emergency? If he was out of form then surely a run in the magoos would have been the trick as opposed to a plane trip?
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Well with Jackson, Foley and King out our lack of depth will show, don't take too much out of a win against the Dees.
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if we lose...and get ready for McGuane!!
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McG
...and get ready for McGuane!!
What, is he water boy this week?
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...and get ready for McGuane!!
What, is he water boy this week?
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Could he do any worse than the poo we endured on the weekend??
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McG[quote
author=PNGQ Tiger link=topic=15953.msg310429#msg310429 date=1341217552]
...and get ready for McGuane!!
What, is he water boy this week?
Could he do any worse than the poo we endured on the weekend??
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Probably ;D But in all seriousness, would take him over Miller.
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Could he do any worse than the poo we endured on the weekend??
A lot worse. Show some respect. McG :cheers
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In: Post, Foley, Conca
Out: Miller, King, Jackson
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Footy Barometer - Round 15
From: Herald Sun
July 02, 2012 6:40PM
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: The Tigers are searching for another target inside 50 and tried debutant Todd Elton but unfortunately it just didn’t work. He finished with only three kicks and would’ve been subbed out if not for King’s knee injury. Elton will continue to develop at Coburg and still looks to have a bright a future, but is simply not ready for the rigours of AFL just yet. Expect him and King to come out of the side from the Adelaide loss. Daniel Jackson also looks set to come out of the side after being offered a two-match suspension.
ON THE CUSP: Nathan Foley and Ty Vickery can’t be far away from leg complaints. In fact, they’d be perfect replacements for King and Elton respectively this week if ready. Coburg travelled down to Warrnambool and in a pool of mud was thumped by Geelong’s VFL outfit in the final term. Only Kelvin Moore impressed with Coburg mustering just five goals for the day.
SAM LANDSBERGER’S FORECAST: A win against the Crows would’ve had Richmond in the all-important box seat for eighth place. Instead, that is now occupied by the Roos. The Tigers simply must bank eight points with matches against the Dees and Suns to come before a Round 17 duel with North Melbourne. That could very well turn out to be for a place in the finals.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/footy-barometer-round-15/story-e6frf9jf-1226414854496
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Claw is speaking poo and I don't even need to read his post. 8 years, what a wank. We'll play finals next year. Maybe even this year. We should win our next 3 games with ease. Over to you, Damien and players.
i was going to let this go as insignificant nonsense. ya know what it is insignificant nonsense carry on as per usual.
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Claw is speaking poo and I don't even need to read his post. 8 years, what a wank. We'll play finals next year. Maybe even this year. We should win our next 3 games with ease. Over to you, Damien and players.
i was going to let this go as insignificant nonsense. ya know what it is insignificant nonsense carry on as per usual.
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sheesh
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
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Sorry to cut into the thread... I just wanted to discuss some possible in and outs ;)
Out: king (inj), jackson (susp) miller(omt)
In: conca, foley, jackson
That still leaves batch in the magoo's.
Does elton still stay in the side, become sub or become omitted?
What ya guys think?
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Sorry to cut into the thread... I just wanted to discuss some possible in and outs ;)
Out: king (inj), jackson (susp) miller(omt)
In: conca, foley, jackson
That still leaves batch in the magoo's.
Does elton still stay in the side, become sub or become omitted?
What ya guys think?
I think you should get back on topic, FFS. sheesh.
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Lol :laugh:
Ok then.
Outs: miller, king, jackson
Ins: graham, greg, conca
:shh
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King Jackson Elton won't play
The ins??
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Out: King (inj), Jackson (susp) Miller (omit)
In: Conca, Foley, Vickery
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
ill take 2 or 3 finals series in a row thanks, then ill start thinking about whats needed for a premiership. All this talk about 7-8 yrs for ultimate success is just a pipedream. Lets make basecamp with finals for a few yrs in a row then go for the summit
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
Speak for yourself and not the rest of us.
Claw has been around a long time show some respect.
:wallywink
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Claw makes some good points.
Over and over and over again, I'll admit. ;D
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I'd like to book in an appointment with Doctor Sheesh pls, but does he bulk bill?
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Apparently Morris suffered some concussion from the Walker tackle.
Hope he doesn't miss.
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Snip! Leave out the insults and namecalling ppl ::).
Now back to the topic!
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
Speak for yourself and not the rest of us.
Claw has been around a long time show some respect.
:wallywink
I've been around for longer than both of you :clapping :thumbsup
:cheers
Greg will play.
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Snip! Leave out the insults and nameballing ppl ::).
Now back to the topic!
Gee whiz, naming them is a bit much! :rollin
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
RFC
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Coburg has another bye this week so if Conca doesn't come in he won't have played a game for 4 weeks by the time the weekend after comes along.
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Need to bring in Conca.
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In: Big Win....Out: Honourable Loss to a side that 'contested harder' than we did.
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How on earth would Vickery get a game next week.
He has to go to Coburg and gain some form as the other players do . eg Matty White
If Batchelor and Conca have to play at Coburg and find form, so does Vickery
Sorry, I find it unbeleivable that people want him back.
Yes , I want him back via COBURG
It seems as different rules for different players
Vickery laughing and playing shyte > miller
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Well we know of 2 complusory outs
King (injured), Jackson (repeated stupidity!)
and I've said I'd drop Ellis
INS: Conca, White, obviously Foley plays if fit but I reckon that's doubtful so if he's not right Batchelor
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Coburg has another bye this week so if Conca doesn't come in he won't have played a game for 4 weeks by the time the weekend after comes along.
The development team don't have a bye and you can expect Richmond players who need a run to play there.
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Well we know of 2 complusory outs
King (injured), Jackson (repeated stupidity!)
and I've said I'd drop Ellis
INS: Conca, White, obviously Foley plays if fit but I reckon that's doubtful so if he's not right Batchelor
And you'd keep Miller in, WP? Geez wept, I have never seen such a bad player get so many games. Drop him for good.
Bring back Posty :lol
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Vickery in for Killer. Even a petulant Vickery playing at 30% is more useful than Miller. Primarily because he can run and kick more than 30 meters.
Ellis has to go. He couldn't tackle a... (cold?)
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Well we know of 2 complusory outs
King (injured), Jackson (repeated stupidity!)
and I've said I'd drop Ellis
INS: Conca, White, obviously Foley plays if fit but I reckon that's doubtful so if he's not right Batchelor
And you'd keep Miller in, WP? Geez wept, I have never seen such a bad player get so many games. Drop him for good.
Bring back Posty :lol
I'd bring in McGuane for Miller actually - gives you the swing player we need if they are hell bent on on not switching Griffiths
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They couldn't possibly bring in Vickery
McGaune for mine as well
No more token games
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So token game for McG then?
Rather bring in a half cooked Moorey, or Post :o, at least was in the best at VFL
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They couldn't possibly bring in Vickery
McGaune for mine as well
No more token games
In that case you'd clearly drop Miller then :gobdrop
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McG
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Grimes and King both out injured for 4 weeks.
Vickery out for the year.
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Oh FFS :banghead
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Oh FFS :banghead
FFS
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OUT: King(Inj.), Grimes(Inj.), Jackson(Susp.), Miller, Elton
IN: Conca, Batchelor, McGuane, Graham and Foley if fit
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OUT: King(Inj.), Grimes(Inj.), Jackson(Susp.), Miller, Elton
IN: Conca, Batchelor, McGuane, Graham and Foley if fit
I recon keep Elton in with another full game since Vickery is gone..
Drop Miller for graham definitely thing.
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depth at our club is going to be
tested.
shame about Grimes, i was expecting
the announcement Re: Foley.
at the same time will hopefully
give us opportunity to put games into
kids.
geez they have been sitting on this with
TV.
oh well lets hope no more injuries. :thumbsup
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Send them to Dr Sheesh.
He'll fix them :gotigers
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They should of also announced that Foley aint playing either
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Send them to Dr Sheesh.
He'll fix them :gotigers
Doc Sheesh is busy.
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Given Vickery is out for the year the club may not drop Miller. Bring in Batch for Grimes. I wouldn't drop Elton
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Dr Sheesh is a beard.
Batch can burger it again, he's in the bad books. Foley needs to get right for the NoFans game.
Out: King (inj), Grimes (inj), Jackson (ass)
In: Greg, Moore, Conca
Assman Miller to kick 8 against the Dees
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Randy is back. It's Beardface'
Greg, Moorey and Conca. Decent ins
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This was written before the news about TV and Grimes...
Richmond - In the Mix
The Tigers need replacements for Jake King (knee) and Daniel Jackson (suspended). Nathan Foley (heel) and Tyrone Vickery (leg) will both have fitness tests this week and would be likely to come in if they pass. Key defender Kelvin Moore was among the best in the Coburg Tigers' loss to Geelong on Sunday and it would cap a long and laborious struggle if he were selected, having missed more than a season with a hip injury before making his comeback with Coburg last month. Midfielder Addam Maric had the most disposals of the AFL-listed players with Coburg, but the selectors must be tired of putting him up and down like a yo-yo.
-Paul Daffey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/140285/default.aspx
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The forecast for Saturday is Sunny, fine day with little wind.
My team for this week
Out: King(inj), Grimes(inj), Jackson(susp), and Miller.
In: Conca, Batchelor, White, (If Foley fit substitute with White) and O'Hanlon.
B: Newman Rance Batchelor
HB: Houli Griffiths Morris
C: Grigg Martin Conca
HF: Deledio Elton Connors
F: Nahas Riewoldt Edwards
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
INT: Dea White O'Hanlon sub: Ellis
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Dare we give posty one lost shot at the big time ,now that grimesy is out?
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Dare we give posty one lost shot at the big time ,now that grimesy is out?
Do we need too with Griff and Elton in the side? He may come in to stretch the Dees Defence and give some Ruck support to Maric.
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Outs Jako Grimes King Miller
Ins Post Graham Foley Conca
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
lol you call a poster a wank and complain when you cop it back softie is what i should have called ya. dont dish it out if you cant cop it back.
cmon you opened your mouth and said what i said was rubbish. no counter argument no nothing but name calling. all i can gather thus far is you dont think we were compared to fitzroy in 2010 when we lost how many in a row.
cmon grow some balls and at least have the courage of your convictions and tell us all just how long you think it should take us to win a gf starting from the end of 09.
ive said 8 yrs a very realistic appraisal but rubbish according to you and im a wank for saying it.
whats freakin funny is it seems you think it should have taken 3 yrs the way your carrying on. be real interesting to hear just how long you think it should take or perhaps you havent got the balls to put it on the line. youd just rather have a crack at those who do.
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
lol you call a poster a wank and complain when you cop it back softie is what i should have called ya. dont dish it out if you cant cop it back.
cmon you opened your mouth and said what i said was rubbish. no counter argument no nothing but name calling. all i can gather thus far is you dont think we were compared to fitzroy in 2010 when we lost how many in a row.
cmon grow some balls and at least have the courage of your convictions and tell us all just how long you think it should take us to win a gf starting from the end of 09.
ive said 8 yrs a very realistic appraisal but rubbish according to you and im a wank for saying it.
whats freakin funny is it seems you think it should have taken 3 yrs the way your carrying on. be real interesting to hear just how long you think it should take or perhaps you havent got the balls to put it on the line. youd just rather have a crack at those who do.
Mate, have you seen the 508 data allowance error message?
People cant log on or post on this site because posts like yours hog all the site's data allowance.
It's greedy and it's bloody selfish.
I don't like it and I have the right to say it >:(
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
lol you call a poster a wank and complain when you cop it back softie is what i should have called ya. dont dish it out if you cant cop it back.
cmon you opened your mouth and said what i said was rubbish. no counter argument no nothing but name calling. all i can gather thus far is you dont think we were compared to fitzroy in 2010 when we lost how many in a row.
cmon grow some balls and at least have the courage of your convictions and tell us all just how long you think it should take us to win a gf starting from the end of 09.
ive said 8 yrs a very realistic appraisal but rubbish according to you and im a wank for saying it.
whats freakin funny is it seems you think it should have taken 3 yrs the way your carrying on. be real interesting to hear just how long you think it should take or perhaps you havent got the balls to put it on the line. youd just rather have a crack at those who do.
Mate, have you seen the 508 data allowance error message?
People cant log on or post on this site because posts like yours hog all the site's data allowance.
It's greedy and it's bloody selfish.
I don't like it and I have a right to say it. >:(
508 data allowance what. the simple answer is no what the hell are you on about.
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The forecast for Saturday is Sunny, fine day with little wind.
My team for this week
Out: King(inj), Grimes(inj), Jackson(susp), and Miller.
In: Conca, Batchelor, White, (If Foley fit substitute with White) and O'Hanlon.
B: Newman Rance Batchelor
HB: Houli Griffiths Morris
C: Grigg Martin Conca
HF: Deledio Elton Connors
F: Nahas Riewoldt Edwards
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
INT: Dea White O'Hanlon sub: Ellis
That's fair, but who helps maric in the ruck from that lineup? Its a good one but creates a dilemma, do we need one of dumber and dumber?
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b/ morris - rance - grimes
hb/ dea - griffiths newman.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio
hf/ ohanlon - riewoldt - martin
f/ edwards - elton - i maric.
r/ graham - cotchin - foley
int/ conca - jackson - ellis - houli/connors.
ins ohanlon, foley, conca, graham
outs/ miller, king, nahas, one of houli/connors.
ohanlon for king. foley for nahas. conca for either houli or connors, graham for miller.
back on topic. posted the above earlier in the week. lol with jackson suspended one of the few times ive picked him this yr and he gets rubbed out, and grimes gone
would change it to moore for grimes and bring batchelor/white in for jackson.
b/ morris - rance - moore.
hb/ dea - griffiths - newman.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio.
hf/ ohanlon - riewoldt - martin
f/ edwards - elton - i maric.
r/ graham - cotchin - foley.
int/ conca - ellis - houli / batchelor/white. would normally pick a genuine mid here as a sub but we dont have one to bring in other than give nahas another game. no thanks.
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Mate, have you seen the 508 data allowance error message?
People cant log on or post on this site because posts like yours hog all the site's data allowance.
It's greedy and it's bloody selfish.
I don't like it and I have the right to say it >:(
A complete distortion of the facts.
You sound like Tony Abbott.
:wallywink
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sheesh indeed i wonder who the wank is.
your the smart one tell us all here just how long you thing it should take to go from fitzroy like proportions to a premiership. im happy to back in 8 yrs what are you backing in 3 yrs lol.
Sheesh what's with the name calling. Fitzroy like proportions lol.Do yourself a favour and give up posting on forums. There is not one person that agrees with your rants.
Regards,
Doctor Sheesh
lol you call a poster a wank and complain when you cop it back softie is what i should have called ya. dont dish it out if you cant cop it back.
cmon you opened your mouth and said what i said was rubbish. no counter argument no nothing but name calling. all i can gather thus far is you dont think we were compared to fitzroy in 2010 when we lost how many in a row.
cmon grow some balls and at least have the courage of your convictions and tell us all just how long you think it should take us to win a gf starting from the end of 09.
ive said 8 yrs a very realistic appraisal but rubbish according to you and im a wank for saying it.
whats freakin funny is it seems you think it should have taken 3 yrs the way your carrying on. be real interesting to hear just how long you think it should take or perhaps you havent got the balls to put it on the line. youd just rather have a crack at those who do.
I said 8 years to win a flag is a wank (why 8 and not 7 or 9?). I didn't call you a wank. If I was calling you a wanker you'd know it. Congratulations on making something out of nothing once again. Learn to read you slapper. I never once called you a name, I said it's a wank that we'll take 8 years to do anything. And it is. You've gone on a tirade now and made yourself look stupid. I'm ashamed that I ever stuck up for you when TFT was giving you a hard time. I went into bat for you and you go and call everyone names whenever they call you on your constant BS? stuff off back to PRE. Oh, wait..................
How's that? :fishing
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Nice ninja edit coach :lol
First attempt was better
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65' and Claw. They make a good team. Both have taken more you know what than Bev.
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Bev should come in this week
Need the balls
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Bev Stevens. Passed it. Bring in Pam
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In: Blurton
Out: Riewoldt
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Claw is speaking poo and I don't even need to read his post. 8 years, what a wank. We'll play finals next year. Maybe even this year. We should win our next 3 games with ease. Over to you, Damien and players.
lol plenty of name calling in that and you cry when you get it back. what a freakin softie. oh geez i didnt say that im taking my bat and ball and going home because i defended you once what a nuffer.
lol you expect some sort of gratitude because you took my side once bloody hilarious,
you still cant answer a question. how long do you think it should take to win a flag from the end of 09 ive said how long i think and get abused. you cant even give a time frame or why why yet abuse those who do.
you ask why 8 yrs well if you actually read the post you decided not to read you would see it was based on how long other clubs actually took. you know premiership sides like geelong hawthorn collingwood.
ah well i should have just stuck to my guns and totally ignored the tripe you have put out. all mouth no substance.
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Claw is speaking poo and I don't even need to read his post. 8 years, what a wank. We'll play finals next year. Maybe even this year. We should win our next 3 games with ease. Over to you, Damien and players.
lol plenty of name calling in that and you cry when you get it back. what a freakin softie. oh geez i didnt say that im taking my bat and ball and going home because i defended you once what a nuffer.
lol you expect some sort of gratitude because you took my side once bloody hilarious,
you still cant answer a question. how long do you think it should take to win a flag from the end of 09 ive said how long i think and get abused. you cant even give a time frame or why why yet abuse those who do.
you ask why 8 yrs well if you actually read the post you decided not to read you would see it was based on how long other clubs actually took. you know premiership sides like geelong hawthorn collingwood.
ah well i should have just stuck to my guns and totally ignored the tripe you have put out. all mouth no substance.
I don't read your posts because they're poo and hard to understand. Your grammar is ass and so are you. I don't need to put a deadline on anything. Why do I need to sit down and pretend that I'm Craig Cameron? FFS, you have NFI when we'll play finals or win a flag. Just STFU and let the adults talk footy :cheers
There was no name calling in that post you qouted either. I said you were talking poo, which you were. I then said you saying "8 year til flag" was a wank, which it is. Harden up.
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B Morris Rance Moore
HB Newman Griffiths Dea
C Conca Cotchin Grigg
HF Edwards Derrickx Martin
F Nahas Riewoldt O'Hanlon
R Maric Deledio Foley
IC: Tuck Elton Houli Ellis
Out:
King (inj)
Grimes (inj)
Jackson (susp)
Miller (omit)
Connors (omit)
In:
Foley
Moore
Conca
Derrickx
O'Hanlon
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add connors and martin to list this week
big changes.
anyone else think Melb will be easy beats
this weekend hang on for the ride. :thumbsup
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Bumped into Reece Lightning Conca
SAID HE WILL BE BACK WITH MAGUANE
FOLEY STILL HAS SORE ANKLE UNSURE
JEROMEY THE PORN STAR WEBBERLEY HAS A GROIN PROBLEM
WELL DONE TIGERS FOR GETTING RID OF THE DRUNK CONNORS
VERY PROFESSIONAL
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Out: Martin, Connors, Grimes, Jackson, King, Miller
In: Batchelor, Maric, Post, Conca, White, Graham
Pretty good in's, sad to see Connors gone but bad egg, bad influence probably no great loss.
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Out: Martin, Connors, Grimes, Jackson, King, Miller
In: Batchelor, Maric, Post, Conca, White, Graham
Pretty good in's, sad to see Connors gone but bad egg, bad influence probably no great loss.
Think Miller will stay now and Graham wont be in the Y&B ever again hopefully. Not sure what Post has done to warrant selection? They might go with McGuane instead.
Foley may be a chance to come in also.
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Hard to see anyone other than Elton being dropped now given all the forced changes.
If Foley is right (something tells me he won't play).....
In: Batchelor, A.Maric, Conca, Foley, White, Post
Out: Grimes (inj), King (inj.), Jackson (susp.), Martin (susp.), Connors (dismissed), Elton (omitted)
Rance and Griffiths should be enough to handle Melbourne's tall forwards with Mitch Clark not playing. Batch to come in for Grimes.
If Foley isn't still right then we'll have to go with a Webberley or think development and give an Arnot or Verrier a taste of AFL and see how they go.
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No more A.Maric!!!
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Hard to see anyone other than Elton being dropped now given all the forced changes.
Hard to even see that happening.
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Hard to see anyone other than Elton being dropped now given all the forced changes.
Hard to even see that happening.
Nor should it happen. Todd needs to be given the next 2 games at least where he will be playing against inexperienced/inferior backs. If they crucify this kid...this week.....so help me >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I think the kiddy has been put to bed. My updated team:
Out: King(inj), Grimes(inj), Jackson(susp), Connors (sacked), Dusty (in-house suspension) and Miller (hopeless).
In: Conca, Batchelor, White, O'Hanlon, Post, Verrier (elevated).
B: Newman Rance Batchelor
HB: Houli Griffiths Morris
C: Grigg Conca White
HF: Deledio Elton OHanlon
F: Nahas Riewoldt Edwards
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
INT: Dea Post Ellis sub: Verrier
AFAIC we only really have 3 outs:King, Grimes and Dusty. The other 3 were never long term prospects.
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Richmond must make at least five changes for Saturday's clash against Melbourne with Connors, Martin, Dylan Grimes (hamstring), Jake King (knee) and Daniel Jackson (suspension) all set to come out of the side which lost to Adelaide.
The Tigers are likely to recall speedster Matt White, defenders Jake Batchelor and Reece Conca, former Demon Addam Maric and ruckman Angus Graham for the clash.
Forgotten Tiger Kelvin Moore remains in the mix after his best performance in two years for Coburg on Sunday, as does Jeromey Webberley.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-bartlett-says-the-tigers-saga-could-cost-richmond-a-stuff-1226416971426)
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Hmmm 5 forced Changes means there probably wont be anyone getting dropped. Which means miller is still in the team :banghead
I would like to see this as the team.
Outs: Martin,King,Jackson,Connors,Grimes,
Ins:Conca, Foley(If fit), Moore, Post,O'Hanlon.
How good would it be if Moore made his comeback, would really inspire the team I recon. If Foleys not fit I'd like to see Matty Arnott get a go.
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Yep Miller will stay in. Usually does okay against his former club. Next week drop.
Anyway here is amendment number whatever on the team.
Out Jako (annual brain fade), King (inj), Grimes (inj), Connors (idiocy), Dusty (idiocy)
Ins Foley, O'Hanlon, Moore, Conca, either Post or Greg White :lol :rollin :lol
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Greg gotta be the first bloke picked :cheers
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
Do you ever shut the stuff up? And I thought claw was repetitive....
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Kel Moore has to come in and bring a positive vibe.
It's all about the vibe. ;)
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Not a great week
Out: Jackson, King, Grimes, Connors and Martin
Ins Foley, O'Hanlon, Moore, Conca, either Webberley or White
Inclusion of Moore would be a team lifter. Unfortunately Miller has to stay in because of Vickery situation.
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
Yep definetly rubbing ppl up the wrong way is this one
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
Yep definetly rubbing ppl up the wrong way is this one
Couldn't care less about what he writes, but why post the same bloody thing 50 times. :banghead
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
Yep definetly rubbing ppl up the wrong way is this one
The only difference between this idiot and others on this site is the length of time he has been around.
If he is a troll he will eventually get bored and go away.
:thumbsup
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
Yep definetly rubbing ppl up the wrong way is this one
The only difference between this idiot-head and others on this site is the length of time he has been around.
If he is a troll he will eventually get bored and go away.
:thumbsup
You lost in the hall of mirrors again 65?
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You lost in the hall of mirrors again 65?
Que?
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
Yep definetly rubbing ppl up the wrong way is this one
The only difference between this idiot-head and others on this site is the length of time he has been around.
If he is a troll he will eventually get bored and go away.
:thumbsup
You lost in the hall of mirrors again 65?
:lol :cheers
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Batchelor needs to come in
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Eight posts are enough on one footy ground
Sorry Jayden get tough and fly out of your nest
Development league is your level at this point in time
RFC
who is this smelly troll?
Yep definetly rubbing ppl up the wrong way is this one
The only difference between this idiot-head and others on this site is the length of time he has been around.
If he is a troll he will eventually get bored and go away.
:thumbsup
You lost in the hall of mirrors again 65?
:lol POTY :cheers
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It doesn't matter who and how we play
Finish low this year and go to the well one more time
We have the foundations. But we still have to clean out the dead wood
I agree Connors gone
Miller and Houli should never be seen in a tiger Guernsey again
They are list cloggers and turn over kings with limited ability
I blame Hardwick for the Crows loss for playing these types of players lumps alcoholics or turnover kings
If B Gale was on the money he would of got Malthouse and cleared out Baby face Dimmer
No other club would ever put Miller or Connors in their team but Dimmer seems to find room for them
How does Tabouli get in the team before Reece Lightning Conca?
Tabouli and Newman can't make tackles stick yet they get games
We're unprofessional and we need to make Chimp Cotchin captain and get rid of all our sad recent history
Pick 55 captaining our club with 200 games and never played in a final
We are an embarrassment to ourselves let alone the football fraternity
Dimmer get fair dinkum or get out otherwise you'll be anther Spud and Terry saga
I've had enough honorable losses for three decades
Dimmer you are nothing but a social worker
These losses are really DIShonourable because you stuff it up in the selection room every time in crunch games
You're dishonest to the tiger fans and stakeholders so wipe that smile of your face and increase your professionalism because enough is enough
Rfc
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It doesn't matter who and how we play
Finish low this year and go to the well one more time
We have the foundations. But we still have to clean out the dead wood
I agree Connors gone
Miller and Houli should never be seen in a tiger Guernsey again
They are list cloggers and turn over kings with limited ability
I blame Hardwick for the Crows loss for playing these types of players lumps alcoholics or turnover kings
If B Gale was on the money he would of got Malthouse and cleared out Baby face Dimmer
No other club would ever put Miller or Connors in their team but Dimmer seems to find room for them
How does Tabouli get in the team before Reece Lightning Conca?
Tabouli and Newman can't make tackles stick yet they get games
We're unprofessional and we need to make Chimp Cotchin captain and get rid of all our sad recent history
Pick 55 captaining our club with 200 games and never played in a final
We are an embarrassment to ourselves let alone the football fraternity
Dimmer get fair dinkum or get out otherwise you'll be anther Spud and Terry saga
I've had enough honorable losses for three decades
Dimmer you are nothing but a social worker
These losses are really DIShonourable because you stuff it up in the selection room every time in crunch games
You're dishonest to the tiger fans and stakeholders so wipe that smile of your face and increase your professionalism because enough is enough
Rfc
touch'e
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Hardwick revealed on Thursday that Luke McGuane, Tom Derickx and Matthew White all had a good chance to be selected...
http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/hardwick-rubbishes-cover-up-claims-185767
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McG on Watts :shh
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McG to kick 8 bangers :clapping
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McG on Watts :shh
Would get molested by Watts
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McG is BACK :shh
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McG on Watts :shh
Would get molested by Watts
Will get
sheesh
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The Broadbeach Bullet has returned! Keep an eye out for Carey in he stand this week watching his apprentice.....
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McG on Watts :shh
Would get molested by Watts
Will get
sheesh
:rollin
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McG Banger is back! And he's bad!
Whoa :shh
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If he plays we a going backwards playing Luke McGuane.
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Mcguane to kick 1 goal 8 behinds. :wallywink including the winning point!
Melbourne fans to sing our theme song again and Jordie Sanchez to shed a tear watching the game at a random pub.
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Mcguane to kick 1 goal 8 behinds. :wallywink including the winning point!
Melbourne fans to sing our theme song again and Jordie Sanchez to shed a tear watching the game at a random pub.
Jordy be watching the game in Glenelgs's clubbies. Should get an invite to the game in all honesty
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Agree :cheers
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Jordy will be at the Holdfast
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Foley playing with lifts in his boots.. :clapping
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McG on Watts :shh
Would get molested by Watts
True