One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: pmac21 on July 14, 2012, 05:40:39 PM
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Should resign immediately for signing us up to play in Cairns.
We pay all this money to the FTF and yet they still need this extra money which is going to ofiicially kill our season two seasons in a row...
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Fair criticism. We've erred here.
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Nah i reckon we did the right thing, 1 mill over 2 yrs is good business. Not his fault our players cant get over the line against the league easybeats
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Agree with tony. Good on him to raise some money for the club.
Do you really think if we cant go up to cairns and beat Goldcoast the WORST team in the AFL, That we deserve to play finals ? Dreamin mate
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
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yep agree with above.
at first when we signed this thing i was with you guys but lets be serious this team has not WON A SINGLE GAME.
No excuses this game was ours to lose and it looks like its headed that way. We should smash them wherever we play them.
Drop this game and yep no imporvement in 12 months
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
lmao at all these blokes on here that jump off whenever we look poor. "but I have had 30 years of it". yeah and you've been sooking the whole time you knobs
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Not bgale fault.
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
lmao at all these blokes on here that jump off whenever we look poor. "but I have had 30 years of it". yeah and you've been sooking the whole time you knobs
Unfair and contradictory criticism. For a start how can 30 year plus members be accused of 'Jumping-off'. And tell me...what have we had to celebrate?
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I'm sorry but full responsibility goes towards the playing and coaching group.
This club (GC) haven't won a effing game this year. We should beat this mob in effing Dubaii.
We are in debt and made a quick buck and should NOT be losing to this mob. GC have been disgusting all year. Full responsibility to be taken by playing group.
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
lmao at all these blokes on here that jump off whenever we look poor. "but I have had 30 years of it". yeah and you've been sooking the whole time you knobs
Unfair and contradictory criticism. For a start how can 30 year plus members be accused of 'Jumping-off'. And tell me...what have we had to celebrate?
LOL how many 30 year members are floating about? I bag us when I think we deserve it. It's just a bit ridiculous getting upset when we've got our 3rds in. "30 years of crap FFS" "FFS this club never learns FFS FFS FFS FFS"
FFS. Why can't these clowns see we're on the right track? Probably won't play finals this year but next year we will. Some people just can't wait. AND I KNOW WHY...."we've had 30 years of waiting Coach"
FFS
Regards,
Doc Sheesh
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
lmao at all these blokes on here that jump off whenever we look poor. "but I have had 30 years of it". yeah and you've been sooking the whole time you knobs
Unfair and contradictory criticism. For a start how can 30 year plus members be accused of 'Jumping-off'. And tell me...what have we had to celebrate?
LOL how many 30 year members are floating about? I bag us when I think we deserve it. It's just a bit ridiculous getting upset when we've got our 3rds in. "30 years of crap FFS" "FFS this club never learns FFS FFS FFS FFS"
FFS. Why can't these clowns see we're on the right track? Probably won't play finals this year but next year we will. Some people just can't wait. AND I KNOW WHY...."we've had 30 years of waiting Coach"
FFS
Regards,
Doc Sheesh
CD its all about effort and endeavour. We have paid to at least see that. Nahas jogging to an opponenent and then watching him kick a goal is a stuffin disgrace.
How have we improved?
Same amount of wins, sit in exactly the same spot as last year. Some players have improved and some have not.
so where is the improvement?
you think finals will just happen next year, i dont.
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reckon we have made some improvements but plenty of work to be done. we have been stuffed in the ass with injuries and suspensions of late. we're better than last year.
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Agree with tony. Good on him to raise some money for the club.
Do you really think if we cant go up to cairns and beat Goldcoast the WORST team in the AFL, That we deserve to play finals ? Dreamin mate
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Agree with tony. Good on him to raise some money for the club.
Do you really think if we cant go up to cairns and beat Goldcoast the WORST team in the AFL, That we deserve to play finals ? Dreamin mate
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Agreed - Not Benny's fault ....
BUT
Agree with tony. Good on him to raise some money for the club.
Do you really think if we cant go up to cairns and beat Goldcoast the WORST team in the AFL, That we deserve to play finals ? Dreamin mate
How could we lose to that RABBLE!!!!!
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Should resign immediately for signing us up to play in Cairns.
We pay all this money to the FTF and yet they still need this extra money which is going to ofiicially kill our season two seasons in a row...
Rubbish, Benny has put us on the right track, but all sport is a gamble and in this game we lost. The aim is overall we get better and that will only come with a bigger spend, from more money, from more members, over a long period of time. 3 - 0 - 75 is the right vision!
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reckon we have made some improvements but plenty of work to be done. we have been stuffed in the ass with injuries and suspensions of late. we're better than last year.
CD i like your posts and have agreed with most in the past but how can you say we have improved.
Improved.
Rance
Grigg
Grimes
Edwards
??????
Gone backwards
Batch
Choking
Culture
Jackson
Captain
mate we sit in the same position as last year having lost to a side who have beaten us twice now. We are going no where
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Just look at our percentage - we have improved heaps!
We're not being smashed by the top sides anymore ..... just need to learn how to win the close ones!!!!
After all the turmoil of the last few weeks this was always on the cards - plenty to still be optimistic about ... (but maybe not till next year now).
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Just look at our percentage - we have improved heaps!
We're not being smashed by the top sides anymore ..... just need to learn how to win the close ones!!!!
After all the turmoil of the last few weeks this was always on the cards - plenty to still be optimistic about ... (but maybe not till next year now).
ooh okay because our percentage is better means we have improved. is that right?
I look at wins/losses and how we win and loss those games.
Today was a disgrace
We always play well against the Swans and Hawks so where exactly have we improved.
we cant nail sides to the wall, its as simple as that. weak as pee
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Structurally off field and financially we are much better but Benny now that the FTF has reached the level it has and the membership numbers are where they are need's to abandon this interstate home game free cash cow.
Long term we have now developed a losing culture against GC and by the time we may play them at the G it may be irrelevant our home ground advantage or 19th man as they may be ahead of us in terms of development and these kids may have matured in such a way that they will be winning anywhere compared to our rebuild thanks to the Wallet.
It's time to address this and play 11 games at the G. Look at the crowds statistics this year.
Interstate home games are for b/s clubs like Nought Dogs St Kilda Melbourne whose lack of success dates back to a by gone era. Wait a minute does that include us also? :help
In any event I don't see Collingwood or Essendon ever dreaming of doing this you want success you model yourselves on the successful.
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Calls to sack Benny Gale are ridiculous but I've never supported selling home games no matter what carrot is offered. Home ground advantage is not something you give up especially when you hand an advantage to the side you're playing against by playing in their state. In any case I wonder how much money we will now lose now in lower crowds over the next 7 weeks having thrown our season away tonight :(.
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Calls to sack Benny Gale are ridiculous but I've never supported selling home games no matter what carrot is offered. Home ground advantage is not something you give up especially when you hand an advantage to the side you're playing against by playing in their state. In any case I wonder how much money we will now lose now in lower crowds over the next 7 weeks having thrown our season away tonight :(.
and a drop of 10000 members next year.
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the problem is we dont have the best people in key areas. We are way behind in recruiting, we are way behind in fitness to other clubs, we are way behind in development of players. We are just way behind. I have lost confidence in the likes of Francis Jackson and co. as well. Been there a long time now and the results arent good IMHO.
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Just look at our percentage - we have improved heaps!
We're not being smashed by the top sides anymore ..... just need to learn how to win the close ones!!!!
After all the turmoil of the last few weeks this was always on the cards - plenty to still be optimistic about ... (but maybe not till next year now).
ooh okay because our percentage is better means we have improved. is that right?
I look at wins/losses and how we win and loss those games.
Today was a disgrace
We always play well against the Swans and Hawks so where exactly have we improved.
we cant nail sides to the wall, its as simple as that. weak as pee
We beat St Kilda - first time since 2002 (& we've stopped recruiting jockeys!!!!)
Improvement in;
Cotchin
Deledio
Morris
Rance
Maric (Eeeevan)
Griffiths
Grimes
Conca
Ellis
etc ..........................................
Agree - today was poo - but IMO, overall, we're on the up!!!!
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Just look at our percentage - we have improved heaps!
We're not being smashed by the top sides anymore ..... just need to learn how to win the close ones!!!!
After all the turmoil of the last few weeks this was always on the cards - plenty to still be optimistic about ... (but maybe not till next year now).
ooh okay because our percentage is better means we have improved. is that right?
I look at wins/losses and how we win and loss those games.
Today was a disgrace
We always play well against the Swans and Hawks so where exactly have we improved.
we cant nail sides to the wall, its as simple as that. weak as pee
We beat St Kilda - first time since 2002 (& we've stopped recruiting jockeys!!!!)
Improvement in;
Cotchin
Deledio
Morris
Rance
Maric (Eeeevan)
Griffiths
Grimes
Conca
Ellis
etc ..........................................
Agree - today was poo - but IMO, overall, we're on the up!!!!
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You never give your opponents an inch. Benny, first with the Darwin Disaster and now the Cairns Collapse2 has to take his share of responsibility for this.
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blaming benny for the tripe some of those blokes wearing our jumper served up to day is just as stupid as.....well, letting some of those blokes wear our jumper!
should be able to beat that team anywhere - and we had them beat with 30seconds to go...not so much an offield/president issue as it is a half hearted/weak as pee issue on field...
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the problem is we dont have the best people in key areas. We are way behind in recruiting, we are way behind in fitness to other clubs, we are way behind in development of players. We are just way behind. I have lost confidence in the likes of Francis Jackson and co. as well. Been there a long time now and the results arent good IMHO.
Bingo
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Brendon Gale should have rucked for us today. Would have been better than that poofta Graham
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Brendon Gale should have rucked for us today. Would have been better than that sissyta Graham
My Grandma could have done better
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
lmao at all these blokes on here that jump off whenever we look poor. "but I have had 30 years of it". yeah and you've been sooking the whole time you knobs
Unfair and contradictory criticism. For a start how can 30 year plus members be accused of 'Jumping-off'. And tell me...what have we had to celebrate?
So its a fair enough point davey, about having our 3rds in we can see that, but its the ouutsiders who mock and taunt us. Wait till tommorow the smile of matthew lloyds face. And all the other poo too.
For those calling for benny's head, pretty unfair. They made a buisness decision: 3 yrs 1.5 mil
Its great money, good for the game and oportunity. The problem is the result lies within the players and coach and as we all knew they would lose they did.
For the guys knocking benny, I understand your anger at the club for some of these decisions but these were made with the future in mind.
I am as angry and dissapointed as anyone else today but that's not going to change by calling for someones head. If maric was fir to play would we have lost? No
If dusty and jacko were not idiots would we have lost? No
If axel, grimes and vickery played would we have lost? Farq no
We just have to put up with the poo now for the rest of the season ::)
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lmao at playing a game in cairns being responsible for a second string side playing like a third string side. ::)
lmao at all these blokes on here that jump off whenever we look poor. "but I have had 30 years of it". yeah and you've been sooking the whole time you knobs
told ya we agree on a lot of things and i have to say we agree again.
its as if the kiddies think we can just wave a magic wand and it will happen. takes yrs of hard work with sometimes the odd step backwards to go forward.
the only things gale must take note of is.
1/ we lack depth.
2/ we have massive age gaps in the list,
3/ we lack enough players having played enough games.
4/ we dont have enough quality players atm.
5/ our best 22 is competetive but even then the bottom 6 of the best 22 is ordinary just shows how far we have to go.
today should have been expected just by looking at the kpis. yes we all should be disappointed but anger and shock well thats laughable.
the simple fact is no matter what we do in the coming off season the chances are we wont make the 8 it will take time to properly address the kpis. without doubt we are on the right path to address them.
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It' probably stating the bleedin obvious but it should be noted that the Tigers today fielded their worst team probably for the last two seasons, the GC fielded probably their strongest team of the season, pretty much sums up our depth. We have a long way to go in terms of strengthening our squad and until that happens we greatly depend on the Gods smiling on us when it comes to injuries through the season. They haven't smiled on us recently and today was unfortunately the result.
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Richmond's finals hopes up in smoke after shock loss
Jay Clark, Sam Landsberger
From: Herald Sun
July 14, 2012 8:26PM
RICHMOND is set to come under fire for selling a home game to Cairns in a move which could cost it a rare finals berth.
Lightning struck twice tonight when the Tigers fell to Gold Coast for the second time in as many years, losing on the back of a Karmichael Hunt after-the-siren goal at Cazaly’s Stadium.
The Tigers make makes about $500,000 for each home game it sells to plays in Cairns.
Suns coach Guy McKenna said the Suns were gifted about a five-goal head start by playing in their home state, opposed to the MCG.
Gold Coast’s last start at the G ended in 97-point hammering at the hands of Collingwood.
Richmond is in the second year of a three-year deal to play one home game a season in Cairns.
Richmond chief executive Brendan Gale last year defended the decision to sell home games, saying it was in the club’s best interests.
“We made a decision about 18 months ago, for our club to become competitive on a sustained basis, we had to build our financial strength,” Gale said.
"In that context, the decision was made to sell what could only be described as a low-value game, in terms of playing Gold Coast at Etihad Stadium, for a reasonable return.
“To simply focus on the selling of the game as the basis of that result is an excuse, a cop-out, and we won’t accept it as a footy club ...
“I can understand the disappointment and frustration of a lot of our supporters, but we are simply not going to accept short-term fixes.”
The Tigers would now need to win at least five of their remaining seven matches to feature in September.
POLL: Would Tiger fans rather the cash to spend on the footy department or the four premiership points?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmonds-finals-hopes-up-in-smoke-after-shock-loss/story-e6frf9jf-1226426169247
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Brendan GAle is a failure
FTF is robbery
They failed again in another season defining moment
Why can't the rest of the team be one millionth of chimps ability
No more propaganda BG and just do your job for us deprived depressed delusional fans
Martin should never of been suspended in these times of injuries
What a joke he punished the team not Martin
Un bloody professional
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Brendan GAle is a failure
FTF is robbery
They failed again in another season defining moment
Why can't the rest of the team be one millionth of chimps ability
No more propaganda BG and just do your job for us deprived depressed delusional fans
Martin should never of been suspended in these times of injuries
What a joke he punished the team not Martin
Un bloody professional
Your posts make me :sleep
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we got beaten, big deal. its our players not wanting it enough. Thats what happened & thats the outcome. bad loss but at least give the Suns some credit. wins aint given to us :banghead
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forget blaming anyone else..The only people to blame here are those players out on the field those last 2 minutes..they played dumb
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I blame all the powers that be that obviously haven't addressed the most important issue at the club and that has plagued it for 30 years.
Culture.
Even substandard players rise to the level required when a club has a winning mentality and a winning culture. A winning mantra wouldve beat a team that hasn't won a game.
A winning culture expects success and demands the best regardless of who's on the field.
Every player knew how important that win was yesterday but still they failed to get it done. We can blame circumstances all you like but it's our culture that has shown it's ugly head once again.
We failed, the players failed and the club has failed. Fact!
That's why we struggle to make finals consistantly year after year.
That's why we rebuild every 3-5 years. That's why we turn over coaches so often.
Fix this disease and the club will finally start playing to the words of the best and most famous club song on the planet.
............."Risking head and shin
If we're behind then never mind
We'll fight and fight and win".....
Long way from this in my opinion and yesterday was evidence that the culture hasn't changed as yet.
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I blame all the powers that be that obviously haven't addressed the most important issue at the club and that has plagued it for 30 years.
Culture.
Even substandard players rise to the level required when a club has a winning mentality and a winning culture. A winning mantra wouldve beat a team that hasn't won a game.
A winning culture expects success and demands the best regardless of who's on the field.
Every player knew how important that win was yesterday but still they failed to get it done. We can blame circumstances all you like but it's our culture that has shown it's ugly head once again.
We failed, the players failed and the club has failed. Fact!
That's why we struggle to make finals consistantly year after year.
That's why we rebuild every 3-5 years. That's why we turn over coaches so often.
Fix this disease and the club will finally start playing to the words of the best and most famous club song on the planet.
............."Risking head and shin
If we're behind then never mind
We'll fight and fight and win".....
Long way from this in my opinion and yesterday was evidence that the culture hasn't changed as yet.
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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I blame all the powers that be that obviously haven't addressed the most important issue at the club and that has plagued it for 30 years.
Culture.
Even substandard players rise to the level required when a club has a winning mentality and a winning culture. A winning mantra wouldve beat a team that hasn't won a game.
A winning culture expects success and demands the best regardless of who's on the field.
Every player knew how important that win was yesterday but still they failed to get it done. We can blame circumstances all you like but it's our culture that has shown it's ugly head once again.
We failed, the players failed and the club has failed. Fact!
That's why we struggle to make finals consistantly year after year.
That's why we rebuild every 3-5 years. That's why we turn over coaches so often.
Fix this disease and the club will finally start playing to the words of the best and most famous club song on the planet.
............."Risking head and shin
If we're behind then never mind
We'll fight and fight and win".....
Long way from this in my opinion and yesterday was evidence that the culture hasn't changed as yet.
geez someone pass the Zanax.
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:rollin
Benny and dimmer playing with our money
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I warned my brother when BEnny got the job that he was from a failures regime and that he was nothing but another scavenger coming to pick the last lot of meat off the carcus
He would fill the fans head with cheap political like lies and feather his own nest on his climb to the afl CEO job
I refuse to feed these rogues
Rfc
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How about putting some blame on the players who were not on the park last night?
Jackson, stupid insipid little tap in the guts.
Matt White, finally got a recall. Then a stupid little insipid punch in the guts and a clumsy forceful front on contact.
Martin, stupid decision to hang out with another bloke with his own issues, drinks and takes a sleeping pill. Misses training.
Three changes we really didn't want to have to make.
Disclipline has been crap lately.
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Look at the cause not the symptoms :lol
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I warned my brother when BEnny got the job that he was from a failures regime and that he was nothing but another scavenger coming to pick the last lot of meat off the carcus
He would fill the fans head with cheap political like lies and feather his own nest on his climb to the afl CEO job
I refuse to feed these rogues
Rfc
Then do us all a favor and take your Dole Money somewhere else.
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I warned my brother when BEnny got the job that he was from a failures regime and that he was nothing but another scavenger coming to pick the last lot of meat off the carcus
He would fill the fans head with cheap political like lies and feather his own nest on his climb to the afl CEO job
I refuse to feed these rogues
Rfc
Then do us all a favor and take your Dole Money somewhere else.
I sense an apparatchik 8)
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God help us if you whiney bastards ever got to run the club, you would be hacking and slashing everything blaming everyone, screaming and crying and that's just if the wrong stuffing beer was brought out to you.
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:rollin
Benny and dimmer playing with our money
Oh yeah and you genius trying to be a hero and screaming the place down.
You have the solution and know exactly what's hapenning at Punt Rd.
Might have come from an unsuccessful era but not an unsuccessful AFL person.
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All the 30year losers still accept mediocre performances
Continue to suffer by supporting these liars and thieves
Signing up the youth worker for two years when the best coach alive is free
They want to keep the money in their coffers and not be exposed by employing a professional
Funding
Thieving
Frauds
FTF
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Oh yes.
Why preach this mantra to us if you've had enough?
Trying to open our eyes and save us or just a troll with nothing better to do?
Get back to the Melbourne forum.
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I hope they sprinkle heaps of fertilizer on new punt rd surface
You never know some culture may come out of the abyss
Culture does not exist see my post on business management
Roos came from a failed organization but he had business nous professionalism as well as football intellect and he surrounded himself with these types of people
Culture you find in yoghurt not afl fc
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
Both are correct hereive said it if Benny can't get us out of this hole then no one will
Re: Cotchin we'l if we are dead serious then effectively immediately after round 24 Newman should not ever be captain again and should be spending time at Coburg in 2012
He is from a loser era we need a fresh face. We need a leader who can lead
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
Having Trent Cotchin is a great thing for our club no doubt Jack but he will only ever be 1 injury or trade away from oblivion to us and his legacy can only ever be wrapped up in the legacy of the team he's playing in at the time - Voss, Judd, Kelly, Harvey etc all spring to mind. Benny's legacy off field is going to last for a long long time.
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Great post smokey
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X50000 keep smoking
All fertilizer buried with the skeletons
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Benny Fale
Played footy like a chip n dale
Now he's our CEO
The love for money and incompetence is his know
Re-signed Hardwick
When we could have got Mick
Made the ME centre our new abode
And killed off punt rd
Sold of loyal fans home games for the fighting tiger fund
With the performances we should of got a refund
To lie and thieve
Is what they believe
With all the hype and money the team continue to under achieve
Benny Fales motto is sell sell sell
Really it should be smell smell smell
The thieving of 52000 loyal fans
Being left waving their hands
And heads buried in the sands
Lose to Ratz and Stick
Benny and Hardwick
You deserve deserve the flick
A regime that promised strawberry and cream
Has delivered nothing but a false dream
God save the Queen
Beacause no one will save Benny Fales regime
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You are one bitter man reddirecting your vitriol on whatever peeed you off in life at our club. And I think there are clubs where you can write emo poetry/chants like this, soccer clubs.
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Benny Fale
Played footy like a chip n dale
Now he's our CEO
The love for money and incompetence is his know
Re-signed Hardwick
When we could have got Mick
Made the ME centre our new abode
And killed off punt rd
Sold of loyal fans home games for the fighting tiger fund
With the performances we should of got a refund
To lie and thieve
Is what they believe
With all the hype and money the team continue to under achieve
Benny Fales motto is sell sell sell
Really it should be smell smell smell
The thieving of 52000 loyal fans
Being left waving their hands
And heads buried in the sands
Lose to Ratz and Stick
Benny and Hardwick
You deserve deserve the flick
A regime that promised strawberry and cream
Has delivered nothing but a false dream
God save the Queen
Beacause no one will save Benny Fales regime
Too much time on your hands.
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The truth hurts
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The truth hurts
If you're this unhappy with the club now, what were you like 4 years ago when we had Wallace and Miller?? :rollin
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The truth hurts
If you're this unhappy with the club now, what were you like 4 years ago when we had Wallace and Miller?? :rollin
He still hasn't finished that piece of 'writing'. :wallywink
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The truth hurts
If you're this unhappy with the club now, what were you like 4 years ago when we had Wallace and Miller?? :rollin
It is Wallace!
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The truth hurts
'Benny Fail' - are you stuffing smoking crack?
B. Gale is a dedicated tiger who is busting his stones to drag this club out of the doldrums, and he's doing a bloody sterling job thus far. You are an imbecile who dribbles absolute nonsense on the internet. Show some stuffing respect to your superiors.
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Benny Fale
Played footy like a chip n dale
Now he's our CEO
The love for money and incompetence is his know
Re-signed Hardwick
When we could have got Mick
Made the ME centre our new abode
And killed off punt rd
Sold of loyal fans home games for the fighting tiger fund
With the performances we should of got a refund
To lie and thieve
Is what they believe
With all the hype and money the team continue to under achieve
Benny Fales motto is sell sell sell
Really it should be smell smell smell
The thieving of 52000 loyal fans
Being left waving their hands
And heads buried in the sands
Lose to Ratz and Stick
Benny and Hardwick
You deserve deserve the flick
A regime that promised strawberry and cream
Has delivered nothing but a false dream
God save the Queen
Beacause no one will save Benny Fales regime
This is a serious question - are you peeing yourself laughing when your writing poo like this?
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pretty sure she thinks it both witty and amusing
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I wonder what the troll thinks of all those "Premiership Heroes" like Barry Richardson and Ian Wilson who came from successful era's but couldn't help to get personal and within 5 years of our last flag in 1980 had turned the club into skata where we are only starting to see the light again with this current regime. No point directing the vitriol to people trying to turn things around but its oh so easy.
The troll would be the first to shake Benny's or Dimma's hand at a family day.
Attention seeking dope.
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The truth hurts
'Benny Fail' - are you stuffing smoking crack?
Too much cider more like it
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
Both are correct hereive said it if Benny can't get us out of this hole then no one will
Re: Cotchin we'l if we are dead serious then effectively immediately after round 24 Newman should not ever be captain again and should be spending time at Coburg in 2012
He is from a loser era we need a fresh face. We need a leader who can lead
And cotchin is from a winning culture? Can't include juniors as newy had success as a junior.
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
Both are correct hereive said it if Benny can't get us out of this hole then no one will
Re: Cotchin we'l if we are dead serious then effectively immediately after round 24 Newman should not ever be captain again and should be spending time at Coburg in 2012
He is from a loser era we need a fresh face. We need a leader who can lead
And cotchin is from a winning culture? Can't include juniors as newy had success as a junior.
He hasnt been tarnished like all were from that era.
Cotch is the type of bloke that builds a culture, and drags people along for the ride. Ive seen Deledio go to a new level the past 2 years and I have no doubt its bc Cotch is challenging him. Prior to that he was cruising
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
Both are correct hereive said it if Benny can't get us out of this hole then no one will
Re: Cotchin we'l if we are dead serious then effectively immediately after round 24 Newman should not ever be captain again and should be spending time at Coburg in 2012
He is from a loser era we need a fresh face. We need a leader who can lead
And cotchin is from a winning culture? Can't include juniors as newy had success as a junior.
He hasnt been tarnished like all were from that era.
Cotch is the type of bloke that builds a culture, and drags people along for the ride. Ive seen Deledio go to a new level the past 2 years and I have no doubt its bc Cotch is challenging him. Prior to that he was cruising
can see Cotchin dragging his team mates
over the line in a final. :thumbsup
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Brendan Gale is the best thing to happen to our club in years.
Nah
Would think Trent Cotchin is the best thing to happen to our club in years
Both are correct hereive said it if Benny can't get us out of this hole then no one will
Re: Cotchin we'l if we are dead serious then effectively immediately after round 24 Newman should not ever be captain again and should be spending time at Coburg in 2012
He is from a loser era we need a fresh face. We need a leader who can lead
And cotchin is from a winning culture? Can't include juniors as newy had success as a junior.
He hasnt been tarnished like all were from that era.
Cotch is the type of bloke that builds a culture, and drags people along for the ride. Ive seen Deledio go to a new level the past 2 years and I have no doubt its bc Cotch is challenging him. Prior to that he was cruising
:yep
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Too much time on your hands.
Must be Wallace.