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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 14, 2012, 09:27:30 PM
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Something tells me there'll be a few :scream
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There are that many I cbf.
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Outs: Graham, Webberly, A Maric, Batch ( LEG?)
Ins: I Maric, Martin, Jackson Griffiths
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Graham for Ivan or if Ivan is still sore a cardboard cutout of Ivan. The cutout will have more prescense, heart, desire, application than the King Island Cream Puff.
Martin for Webberley
Griffiths for Derickx
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Out Angus Graham
In Dame Edna
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OUTS: Webberley (1 way tkt on the abel tasman), Graham, Mini Maric, O'Hanlon, Batchelor (inj)
INS: Mullet Maric, Dusty, Jackson, Elton, Griffiths
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I don't care if Browne comes in to give Ivan a chop out during the game next week since Ivan needs help and we don't want to run him ragged.
I never ever ever wan't to see the King Island Cream Puff in an RFC jumper again. Not even in the team poster for 2013, since he is still contracted.
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I don't understand what i'm reading.
Drop the big girl and bring in the big pear?
Bringing in the big pear will just reinforce what we already know........
...... He's poohouse too!
And more evidence of poohouse recruiting.
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I don't understand what i'm reading.
Drop the big girl and bring in the big pear?
Bringing in the big pear will just reinforce what we already know........
...... He's poohouse too!
And more evidence of poohouse recruiting.
Probably but the pear has more heart than the King Island Cream Puff. On that I'd play him.
You cannot do worse than the KICP. The KICP is worse than any of these former RFC ruckmen
Schaefer, Esler, McKee, Honybun, Smith, Ben Marsh, Knobel, heck even Cartledge played one game and had an impact in a win for us.
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Graham for Ivan or if Ivan is still sore a cardboard cutout of Ivan. The cutout will have more prescense, heart, desire, application than the King Island Cream Puff.
x 2 for the cut out. If I have to see Gus walking around the field again I will spew chunks
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There are that many I cbf.
Exactly
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Bugger this, let's look ahead to this week.
In- Jacko, I.Maric, Dusty, Griff
Out- Webbers, A. Maric, Gus, Derrickx
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Tipping a Tiger win at the G this week.
We won't make the 8 but we will beat the Roos. They are due to drop one.
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OUTS: Webberley (1 way tkt on the abel tasman), Graham, Mini Maric, O'Hanlon, Batchelor (inj)
INS: Mullet Maric, Dusty, Jackson, Elton, Griffiths
Would say that is pretty close to the mark.
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What about the coach swap him over with the two dollar coach at Coburg
Harry potter maybe some magic wizardry to try and combat God :pray :bow
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Cotchin cleared.
Ziebell 3 weeks.
Judd to tribunal.
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Cotchin cleared.
Ziebull 3 weeks.
Judd to tribunal.
interesting Ziebel most thought
he would get off.
hope Colonel Sanders gets
whacked.
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Cotchin cleared.
Ziebull 3 weeks.
Judd to tribunal.
interesting Ziebel most thought
he would get off.
hope Colonel Sanders gets
whacked.
Lol Ziebell's was a big hit.
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Herald-Sun's Footy Barometer - Round 17
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: She’s a big block this week. Newman and Batchelor finished the match sore and sorry but at least the skipper should recover to face the Roos. Jeromey Webberley was subbed out before halftime such were his sloppy efforts so you’d expect him to come out as well. Tom Derickx didn’t look ready either, finishing with just two kicks and failing to hit the scoreboard.
ON THE CUSP: The Tigers will gleefully welcome back Dustin Martin and Daniel Jackson and will be desperately hoping star ruckman Ivan Maric returns as well. Coburg had a respectable loss but there wasn’t much AFL-listed talent shining in that match with Todd Elton and Jayden Post failing to excite. Ben Griffiths must get through training this week to prove he is over a calf strain.
SAM LANDSBERGER’S FORECAST: The Tigers wanted finals and they’ve got one – well, sort of. Lose to the Roos this week and it’s goodnight for the season. Richmond made an embarrassing amount of blunders in the final minutes against the Gold Coast, highlighting while its best side is impressive, perhaps the depth still needs to be layered underneath. After the Roos it is Carlton and Brisbane away. From that clutch of three games Hardwick’s mob needs to now win at least two to stay in top-eight contention. Tough times ahead at Punt Rd.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/footy-barometer-round-16/story-fncufbo5-1226427325159
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Wonder if they will role the dice and play Astbury?
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I hope Ivan plays.
60 point loss without him.
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
The shock two-point loss to Gold Coast last Saturday means the Tigers are likely to make four changes for the match against North Melbourne this Sunday. Daniel Jackson and Dustin Martin should come back from suspension, while Ivan Maric (groin) and Ben Griffiths (calf) have not been named on the injury list following their late withdrawals on Saturday, so they should be available for selection. Griffiths is likely to replace Jake Batchelor, who will miss because of bruising, while Maric should replace Angus Graham in the ruck. Even if Maric is out again, Graham might make way for Andrew Browne, who put in a strong performance with the Coburg Tigers in their loss to Werribee at the weekend. Others in the gun from the loss to the Suns are Jeromey Webberley, who came on as the sub, and Addam Maric, who deserves to retain his place after having 21 disposals, but if the selectors' precedents this season are any guide he'll make way.
-Paul Daffey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141732/default.aspx
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Out A Maric, Webberley, Graham, Batchelor, Ellis
In: Martin, Jackson, Griffiths, I Maric and in a complete surprise Astbury
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
Agree Tony, Ellis was very good! I would drop Dea or Houli befor Ellis.
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would love to drop Houli and Dea,both need a kick up the backside.however who to bring in,the cupboard is currently bare .
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
Agree Tony, Ellis was very good! I would drop Dea or Houli befor Ellis.
;D
It would be good if people that slagged Webberley would also apply the same standards to Houli.
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
Agree Tony, Ellis was very good! I would drop Dea or Houli befor Ellis.
;D
It would be good if people that slagged Webberley would also apply the same standards to Houli.
Houli sucked on the weekend, there is no doubting that but..........Webberley should never be allowed to play for us again!!!
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
Agree Tony, Ellis was very good! I would drop Dea or Houli befor Ellis.
;D
It would be good if people that slagged Webberley would also apply the same standards to Houli.
Houli sucked on the weekend, there is no doubting that but..........Webberley should never be allowed to play for us again!!!
Somewhere in the Y&B draft archives there is a thread where I was bitching about us drafting Webberley as soon as he had been drafted. He's not up to standard. Claw said it best a week back, he is a good state league player but there are many of them. Anyway, Houli is also puts in poo efforts. Yet he stays in week after week..
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
Agree Tony, Ellis was very good! I would drop Dea or Houli befor Ellis.
;D
It would be good if people that slagged Webberley would also apply the same standards to Houli.
Houli sucked on the weekend, there is no doubting that but..........Webberley should never be allowed to play for us again!!!
Somewhere in the Y&B draft archives there is a thread where I was bitching about us drafting Webberley as soon as he had been drafted. He's not up to standard. Claw said it best a week back, he is a good state league player but there are many of them. Anyway, Houli is also puts in poo efforts. Yet he stays in week after week..
Yes yes, I do rember that, I'm not having a shot ya mate ;) just saying Webberly played probably the worst game of football I have ever seen! Houli was good at the begining of the season but is fast becoming Eddy The Eagle!! I still think there is room for Houli to improove but unfortunately Webberly is stuffed.....
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why Ellis? he just played his best game of the year, geez everyweek ppl calling for his head
Agree Tony, Ellis was very good! I would drop Dea or Houli befor Ellis.
;D
It would be good if people that slagged Webberley would also apply the same standards to Houli.
Im starting to think Houli is at the highest level we will ever see him at.
He is slow. Will he get quicker? Doubt it
Im with Claw on this one he is at best a depth player
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the peasants are revolting lol
whos next???
Hangon I think I saw someone else sucking as well!
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hey Owl why dont you shut the stuff up. Are you saying you're happy with the weak efforts Houli puts in week after week? If so, I dare say we need to catch up for a chat. You've changed and Caro has too :banghead
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hey Owl why dont you shut the stuff up. Are you saying you're happy with the weak efforts Houli puts in week after week? If so, I dare say we need to catch up for a chat. You've changed and Caro has too :banghead
Hmmmm
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Oh FFS MCMLOLZ is back :banghead
if you must know, Owl has won me over this year. we're friends and have been for a long time. :lol
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Houli is bit soft.
Bag dea till the cows come home but like morris rance etc. He out his head where angels fear to tred.
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The fact the Club is only mentioning Dusty and Jacko are certainties to come back has me worried big Ivan will miss again :help.
If Ivan and Griffs do play then ...
Out: Graham, Derickx, Webberley, Batchelor (inj.)
In: I.Maric, Martin, Jackson, Griffiths
After those 4 ins the cupboard is very bare :help.
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Agree Derrickx should be dropped
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Elton or Miller will play
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The fact the Club is only mentioning Dusty and Jacko are certainties to come back has me worried big Ivan will miss again :help.
If Ivan and Griffs do play then ...
Out: Graham, Derickx, Webberley, Batchelor (inj.)
In: I.Maric, Martin, Jackson, Griffiths
After those 4 ins the cupboard is very bare :help.
If big Ivan misses again then the fitness staff need examining before anyone else. If Ivan missed due to general soreness then he should be right. If he misses this week then obviously it is a bit more sinister than general soreness (one game in three weeks should see him over it) and the decision to fly him up there whilst injured is poor management.
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Even if Ivan comes back in (and I hope he does :pray), we are in the unfortunate position where we're going to have to play one of the three spuds in Graham, Derrickx or Browne as ruck support.
It's the huge workload that's been placed on Ivan's shoulders so far this season that has him burnt out at this stage, and he wont be able to play out the year as a lone hand in the ruck. Of the three spuds I mentioned, the one who looks most likely to me as a SHORT-TERM fix is Browne.
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The fact the Club is only mentioning Dusty and Jacko are certainties to come back has me worried big Ivan will miss again :help.
If Ivan and Griffs do play then ...
Out: Graham, Derickx, Webberley, Batchelor (inj.)
In: I.Maric, Martin, Jackson, Griffiths
After those 4 ins the cupboard is very bare :help.
Hardwick said in his press conference yesterday that we have 5 players returning from suspension and injury....who is the 5th?
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Even if Ivan comes back in (and I hope he does :pray), we are in the unfortunate position where we're going to have to play one of the three spuds in Graham, Derrickx or Browne as ruck support.
It's the huge workload that's been placed on Ivan's shoulders so far this season that has him burnt out at this stage, and he wont be able to play out the year as a lone hand in the ruck. Of the three spuds I mentioned, the one who looks most likely to me as a SHORT-TERM fix is Browne.
I think browne is the best option out of all those, short term and long term.
I saw him at coburg a couple of years ago and thought he offered much more than graham around the ground, but then seeing him play in the seniors last year, like others, I was thinking WTF, particularily his unwillingness to kick, and pooness when he did.
As it turns out he had hip problems and needed surgery post season, so that could have played a part.
In the little i've seen of coburg this year on the telly, I still think he offers more than graham around the ground. At least he presents and makes a contest, and has second efforts.
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Even if Ivan comes back in (and I hope he does :pray), we are in the unfortunate position where we're going to have to play one of the three spuds in Graham, Derrickx or Browne as ruck support.
It's the huge workload that's been placed on Ivan's shoulders so far this season that has him burnt out at this stage, and he wont be able to play out the year as a lone hand in the ruck. Of the three spuds I mentioned, the one who looks most likely to me as a SHORT-TERM fix is Browne.
Feel sorry for Pearsy. People have forgotten why Pearsy couldn't get a game over Goose. Hopefully Pearsy has a bigger tank now and is slightly less unco.
I was Peary's advocate on Y&B one year. I like him. Go Pearsy :clapping
Even if Ivan comes back in (and I hope he does :pray), we are in the unfortunate position where we're going to have to play one of the three spuds in Graham, Derrickx or Browne as ruck support.
It's the huge workload that's been placed on Ivan's shoulders so far this season that has him burnt out at this stage, and he wont be able to play out the year as a lone hand in the ruck. Of the three spuds I mentioned, the one who looks most likely to me as a SHORT-TERM fix is Browne.
I think browne is the best option out of all those, short term and long term.
I saw him at coburg a couple of years ago and thought he offered much more than graham around the ground, but then seeing him play in the seniors last year, like others, I was thinking WTF, particularily his unwillingness to kick, and pooness when he did.
As it turns out he had hip problems and needed surgery post season, so that could have played a part.
In the little i've seen of coburg this year on the telly, I still think he offers more than graham around the ground. At least he presents and makes a contest, and has second efforts.
Let's not make stuff up here Greg. Greg performed better than Pearsy at Gregburg which is why Pearsy didn't get the nod over Goose. Good VFL player though is Pears. Still young too
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Why are we the only club who cant give a straight answer on how long our players are going to be out. If MAric has groin issues and is out for a month just tell us FFS!!!
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Think it is wise of them not to tell us. If they reveal early that Graham will be goose stepping around again then some supporters (smokey) will burn down punt road. ;D
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I am all for providing stuff to a player that has not performed like for example Vickery - injury or not if you put yourself up to be selected and you dont perform then you will merit critism.
However I am going to put forward a case for 2nd gamer Derickx to remain in the side for another 1-2 games at least.
1. He has already matched Vickery's Hit out stats average for the year and Vickery got 8 games
2. He played forward and defence in both games (as well as ruck support) - needs to be settled in either role
3. Needs more time to get the pace of the game and settle into the team
Areas he needs to improve:
1. Reading the play - he is a tall option and should have not been within 20 metres of that Tuck kick - should have been down the line
2. Fitness - looked absolutely knackered at the end of the game - but the team only had one on the bench
3. Marking - not reading the ball or getting best position as yet - needs to make the mids kick to his advantage
If anyone can name one Richmond player that was an absolute gun from Game 1 (exceptions are Cotchin) then they dont live in the real world.
Ellis has now played 15 games and has improved every game to achieve a solid level of consistency. He was getting bagged at the start.
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Let's not make stuff up here Greg. Greg performed better than Pearsy at Gregburg which is why Pearsy didn't get the nod over Goose. Good VFL player though is Pears. Still young too
while grahams output may have been slightly better, i think the way browne goes about it gives him more of a chance of one day having an impact for us.
as you say he is only young. what, 22 or something? even big eeeevan didnt have much of an impact until this year (26, 27?). same with jamar for the landrovers.
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I am all for providing stuff to a player that has not performed like for example Vickery - injury or not if you put yourself up to be selected and you dont perform then you will merit critism.
However I am going to put forward a case for 2nd gamer Derickx to remain in the side for another 1-2 games at least.
1. He has already matched Vickery's Hit out stats average for the year and Vickery got 8 games
2. He played forward and defence in both games (as well as ruck support) - needs to be settled in either role
3. Needs more time to get the pace of the game and settle into the team
Areas he needs to improve:
1. Reading the play - he is a tall option and should have not been within 20 metres of that Tuck kick - should have been down the line
2. Fitness - looked absolutely knackered at the end of the game - but the team only had one on the bench
3. Marking - not reading the ball or getting best position as yet - needs to make the mids kick to his advantage
If anyone can name one Richmond player that was an absolute gun from Game 1 (exceptions are Cotchin) then they dont live in the real world.
Ellis has now played 15 games and has improved every game to achieve a solid level of consistency. He was getting bagged at the start.
Agree 100%, we have put the time into this guy, he plays and delivers the ball well, I reckon he should be in as well.
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Let's not make stuff up here Greg. Greg performed better than Pearsy at Gregburg which is why Pearsy didn't get the nod over Goose. Good VFL player though is Pears. Still young too
while grahams output may have been slightly better, i think the way browne goes about it gives him more of a chance of one day having an impact for us.
as you say he is only young. what, 22 or something? even big eeeevan didnt have much of an impact until this year (26, 27?). same with jamar for the landrovers.
yeh,'cos we got four years up our sleeve
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In response to"If anyone can name one Richmond player that was an absolute gun from Game 1 (exceptions are Cotchin) then they dont live in the real world" Richo was a gun from game one. I agree that the majority of players are not guns from day 1 but having said that you need to show something in your first game or couple of games eg Ellis has shown something. Derrickx has played a variety of positions and I agree has not been in a settled position but on the other hand he is a mature age recruit who should be showing more than he is. I really hope he succeeds but have doubts. I hope very much to be proven wrong in having doubts.
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Think it is wise of them not to tell us. If they reveal early that Graham will be goose stepping around again then some supporters (smokey) will burn down punt road. ;D
:lol
The thought would cross my mind! :lol
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My team for Sunday:
B: Steven Morris, Alex Rance, Chris Newman
HB: Bachar Houli, Ben Griffiths, Kel Moore
C: Shaun Grigg, Trent Cotchin, Brandon Ellis
HF: Brett Deledio, Tom D, Eddo
F:Luke McGuane, Jack Riewoldt, Robin Nahas
Foll: Ivan Maric, Dusty, Shane Tuck
I/C: A Maric, Conca, Jacko, Brett O'Hanlon (I can't work out who I'd have as sub :huh)
Emg: Todd Elton, Matthew Arnot etc
Out: Dea, Batchelor, Graham, Webberley
Ins: I Maric, Griff, Jacko and Dusty
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What about the coach swap him over with the two dollar coach at Coburg
Harry potter maybe he can produce conjure magic wizardry to try and combat God
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What about the coach swap him over with the two dollar coach at Coburg
Harry potter maybe he can produce conjure magic wizardry to try and combat God
Comes complete with cape and pink schwand. Also can do the hamburger on request
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Mmmiller and the last post named if they play I'm spending Sunday arvo mowing the lawns and washing the cars
I object watching this nonsense
Miller our youth policy
Put games into Elton John Dimwit
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Lose this week and I would say we'll head back into development mode for the rest of the season.
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Lose this week and I would say we'll head back into development mode for the rest of the season.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
We need to make changes and we need to find out what those changes might be.
:thumbsup
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After seeing some of the Ins I am 100% convinced the rfc is like Cadel Evans 2012 only
On one effing big joy ride