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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WA Tiger on July 15, 2012, 11:56:37 AM
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Honestly I can't believe some of the threads and posts I am reading on this forum.
I have to ask, why was I attacked for posting my thoughts on where we were and that I believed the players were mentally weak and that we would lose to the GC??? I also said we hadn't moved forward and what I should of said was, we haven't moved forward to the degree I though we would.
No one agreed, bar a couple of course, sorry to those of you that did.
Now I am reading sack this player, sack that player, sack the coach, we have gone backward, we have not progressed....etc...and just about every poster is on the band wagon.
Blame injuries if you like, blame playing at the GC, blame who you want, but honestly IMO it's the players and their mental weakness, it's inbread at our club, has been for years.
But honestly again, sacking the coach, team or whoever will not solve the problem.
We need to hire people that can get inside the heads of the players and toughen them up and we need to trade like we have never traded before, finish as low as possible for the best draft picks and pay for free agent players. Including Cloke if need be.
We need another massive shake up.
I am surprised many of you that are carrying on now couldn't see this coming earlier.... :o
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Whats the next part of the script partner, are we supposed to commence a thread about how right you were, blow it back up your woofer for all its worth...it was rubbish then and smells even worse now :shh
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
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Whats the next part of the script partner, are we supposed to commence a thread about how right you were, blow it back up your woofer for all its worth...it was rubbish then and smells even worse now :shh
No I would just like to know the thought process of some of the poster here, including you, because you are one that was full of the "how good we are going" crap and then one of the first to have a go at the club....at least I have stuck to my guns!!!
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
Dead right, why do we seem to be the only team with that culture ingrained, it's like every player taht comes through has it, it's a desease....
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I thought yesterday was a "danger game" and a few people laughed, hope those people are still laughing now. You are allowed to post anything you like, not everyone will agree but that's life. We are going backwards now, had a great opportunity to be in the top eight this year and we didn't take it! It begins with the coach and his "game plan", both aren't the answer, so move him along ...
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Whats the next part of the script partner, are we supposed to commence a thread about how right you were, blow it back up your woofer for all its worth...it was rubbish then and smells even worse now :shh
No I would just like to know the thought process of some of the poster here, including you, because you are one that was full of the "how good we are going" crap and then one of the first to have a go at the club....at least I have stuck to my guns!!!
I havent critisized anything other than the performance of some of those that replaced senior players in the side
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In the 33 years ive lived , i have never known a human being to be a bigger "i told you so'er" than WAT/PNGQT.
It is truly amazing.
I will add, that ive also never known someone to be so rude to people that disagree with his point of view, or suck up so much to people that do actually agree with his point.
Anyone that disagrees with the aforementioned WAT/PNGQT is shot down continuously.
Why dont you start 48739 threads for the posts of yours that are genuinely wrong?
Hooray, you thought we would lose to the Gold Coast. Someone buy the man a drink and celebrate this correct prediction.
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In the 33 years ive lived , i have never known a human being to be a bigger "i told you so'er" than WAT/PNGQT.
It is truly amazing.
I will add, that ive also never known someone to be so rude to people that disagree with his point of view, or suck up so much to people that do actually agree with his point.
Anyone that disagrees with the aforementioned WAT/PNGQT is shot down continuously.
Why dont you start 48739 threads for the posts of yours that are genuinely wrong?
Hooray, you thought we would lose to the Gold Coast. Someone buy the man a drink and celebrate this correct prediction.
The thread isn't about what you think of me, I couldn't care less, it's about the honesty of the suporters, posters on this forum and the players mental weakness, please try and stick to topic and don't turn this is into a personal attack on me..AGAIN, just because you don't like my thoughts.
Thank you
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Whats the next part of the script partner, are we supposed to commence a thread about how right you were, blow it back up your woofer for all its worth...it was rubbish then and smells even worse now :shh
No I would just like to know the thought process of some of the poster here, including you, because you are one that was full of the "how good we are going" crap and then one of the first to have a go at the club....at least I have stuck to my guns!!!
I havent critisized anything other than the performance of some of those that replaced senior players in the side
And the game yesterday, you were happy and your posts reflected that? I don't think so.
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
Dead right, why do we seem to be the only team with that culture ingrained, it's like every player taht comes through has it, it's a desease....
yep every player we recruit is rubbish, every coach we hire cant coach, every asisstant coach we recruit cant teach. etc etc
every draw we get handed is tough, every ground we play on is tough. its all a load of scata
Its a disease and the only player in the last 20 years, that ive seen that hasnt inherited it at any stage of their career is Cotch.
we have a aboriginal centre at Punt Road yet cant develop any of them enough to stay. why???
we cant put sides away and nail them to the wall? why
we have a lack of belief and a few wins against sides we normally do well against aint going to hide that
It was a lack of belief from the coach that had Cotch sitting on the pine in the last minute of the most important match of the year, newman not in the backline and our players not playing man on man
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serious???? cotch was on the pine the last minute? i didnt realise that
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Do what I do folks, and stop putting yourself through unnecessary pain.
I'm over them!
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serious???? cotch was on the pine the last minute? i didnt realise that
im very sure thats what i read on a previous thread
can anyone confirm this, that was actually at the ground.
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Derickx dropped a stuffing pud.
He marks the ball we win by 10 points.
The coach didnt drop the mark. Id be upset if my 3yo daughter dropped that ball.
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Froars i understand where you're coming from on this..but mate i cant..the RFC is just too ingrained
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i must admit i had a chuckle when big dericks was selected 2 weeks ago..has done absolutely nothing at coburg and got a game simply because there was nobody else i suspect
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serious???? cotch was on the pine the last minute? i didnt realise that
im very sure thats what i read on a previous thread
can anyone confirm this, that was actually at the ground.
Kiwitiger (BF) is a trusted source and he stated that was the case. He was at the ground, near the coach's box and is a coterie member.
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well i'll stick my neck out and say if cotch was in the middle for that last bounce we would have won..theres not a hope in hell he would have let them take the ball away
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serious???? cotch was on the pine the last minute? i didnt realise that
im very sure thats what i read on a previous thread
can anyone confirm this, that was actually at the ground.
Kiwitiger (BF) is a trusted source and he stated that was the case. He was at the ground, near the coach's box and is a coterie member.
I REST MY CASE
yet people blame depth and location
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
Dead right, why do we seem to be the only team with that culture ingrained, it's like every player taht comes through has it, it's a desease....
yep every player we recruit is rubbish, every coach we hire cant coach, every asisstant coach we recruit cant teach. etc etc
every draw we get handed is tough, every ground we play on is tough. its all a load of scata
Its a disease and the only player in the last 20 years, that ive seen that hasnt inherited it at any stage of their career is Cotch.
we have a aboriginal centre at Punt Road yet cant develop any of them enough to stay. why???
we cant put sides away and nail them to the wall? why
we have a lack of belief and a few wins against sides we normally do well against aint going to hide that
It was a lack of belief from the coach that had Cotch sitting on the pine in the last minute of the most important match of the year, newman not in the backline and our players not playing man on man
Pretty well nailed it Daniel...WHY..thats what I wan't to know, and they don't answer those questions for us do they??
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
Dead right, why do we seem to be the only team with that culture ingrained, it's like every player taht comes through has it, it's a desease....
yep every player we recruit is rubbish, every coach we hire cant coach, every asisstant coach we recruit cant teach. etc etc
every draw we get handed is tough, every ground we play on is tough. its all a load of scata
Its a disease and the only player in the last 20 years, that ive seen that hasnt inherited it at any stage of their career is Cotch.
we have a aboriginal centre at Punt Road yet cant develop any of them enough to stay. why???
we cant put sides away and nail them to the wall? why
we have a lack of belief and a few wins against sides we normally do well against aint going to hide that
It was a lack of belief from the coach that had Cotch sitting on the pine in the last minute of the most important match of the year, newman not in the backline and our players not playing man on man
Pretty well nailed it Daniel...WHY..thats what I wan't to know, and they don't answer those questions for us do they??
Gee there's some fool stuffwit post on here eff me! Let's sack the coach, let's sack the board lets go back to square one and start from scratch. The problem with that is you dicks would give the new board, new coach new players 10 minuts to preform before you would call for the same thing! It's actually more embarrassing reading some of the hysterical head up arses posts here than it was to loose yesterday. Seriously allot of you just have no idea :wallywink
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
Dead right, why do we seem to be the only team with that culture ingrained, it's like every player taht comes through has it, it's a desease....
yep every player we recruit is rubbish, every coach we hire cant coach, every asisstant coach we recruit cant teach. etc etc
every draw we get handed is tough, every ground we play on is tough. its all a load of scata
Its a disease and the only player in the last 20 years, that ive seen that hasnt inherited it at any stage of their career is Cotch.
we have a aboriginal centre at Punt Road yet cant develop any of them enough to stay. why???
we cant put sides away and nail them to the wall? why
we have a lack of belief and a few wins against sides we normally do well against aint going to hide that
It was a lack of belief from the coach that had Cotch sitting on the pine in the last minute of the most important match of the year, newman not in the backline and our players not playing man on man
Pretty well nailed it Daniel...WHY..thats what I wan't to know, and they don't answer those questions for us do they??
Gee there's some fool stuffwit post on here eff me! Let's sack the coach, let's sack the board lets go back to square one and start from scratch. The problem with that is you dicks would give the new board, new coach new players 10 minuts to preform before you would call for the same thing! It's actually more embarrassing reading some of the hysterical head up behinds posts here than it was to loose yesterday. Seriously allot of you just have no idea :wallywink
show me one post where i have said Sack the coach. Just one since Dimma has been made coach??? Keep searching
It is people like you who cant read simple English
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
lol daniel. sort of a two bob each way post there bud.
you change losing culture simply by winning. you win when you have enough players capable of winning.
your looking for answers well the most obvious one is right there staring at you.
the 22 who played were not good enough plain and simple.that 22 wont win you games against most sides. without a doubt the single biggest problem at the club atm is depth we just dont have any.
we dont even have a good best 22 the bottom 5 or 6 fall away dranatically but we are forced to play them.
foley, martin, king, grimes, maric a fit ad in form vickery, griffiths and you become competetive against most sides. without them your just another also ran.
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In the 33 years ive lived , i have never known a human being to be a bigger "i told you so'er" than WAT/PNGQT.
It is truly amazing.
I will add, that ive also never known someone to be so rude to people that disagree with his point of view, or suck up so much to people that do actually agree with his point.
Anyone that disagrees with the aforementioned WAT/PNGQT is shot down continuously.
Why dont you start 48739 threads for the posts of yours that are genuinely wrong?
Hooray, you thought we would lose to the Gold Coast. Someone buy the man a drink and celebrate this correct prediction.
The thread isn't about what you think of me, I couldn't care less, it's about the honesty of the suporters, posters on this forum and the players mental weakness, please try and stick to topic and don't turn this is into a personal attack on me..AGAIN, just because you don't like my thoughts.
Thank you
Didn't comment on your thoughts.
More commenting on your first 3 paragraphs. They ooze arrogance and rudeness.
Look at me, look at me. You're all a pack of fools, I was right I was right. Hardy hardy ha, I was right your all fools, I'm the king.
Shove
It
Straight
Up
Your
behind
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Do what I do folks, and stop putting yourself through unnecessary pain.
I'm over them!
what draws you back onto a fan forum then froarsy, just sayin ::)
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
lol daniel. sort of a two bob each way post there bud.
you change losing culture simply by winning. you win when you have enough players capable of winning.
your looking for answers well the most obvious one is right there staring at you.
the 22 who played were not good enough plain and simple.that 22 wont win you games against most sides. without a doubt the single biggest problem at the club atm is depth we just dont have any.
we dont even have a good best 22 the bottom 5 or 6 fall away dranatically but we are forced to play them.
foley, martin, king, grimes, maric a fit ad in form vickery, griffiths and you become competetive against most sides. without them your just another also ran.
no no no. That's where your wrong.
This losing culture is a cancer that hasn't been rectified by any coach or administrator for 30 years.
You stat that winning will rectify a losing culture. Did it work in 1995 and 2001? No soon after both those years we were back exactly where we are inbred to finish and that's a mediocre 9th or in the process of another rebuild.
The culture change starts when you don't except mediocrity of any sort in any department at the club.
At training if there's a wayward kick you start the whole drill again and you do it until it's done perfectly even if it takes all day.
If you have a winning culture you win even if circumstances conspire against you.
Someone posted that the bombers were a lucky club because it seems things fall their way. Well thats because winners make it and losers just dream about it luck doesn't come into it.
Fix this culture issue and we won't except underperformed hacks that have been there too long and haven't improved.
Fix this culture issue and players we recruit won't all of a sudden forget how to kick.
Fix this culture issue and we don't lose to a team that hadn't won a game.
Fix this culture issue and we make finals regardless of how many injuries we may have.
Fix this culture issue and we aren't waiting another 30 years for a premiership.
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
lol daniel. sort of a two bob each way post there bud.
you change losing culture simply by winning. you win when you have enough players capable of winning.
your looking for answers well the most obvious one is right there staring at you.
the 22 who played were not good enough plain and simple.that 22 wont win you games against most sides. without a doubt the single biggest problem at the club atm is depth we just dont have any.
we dont even have a good best 22 the bottom 5 or 6 fall away dranatically but we are forced to play them.
foley, martin, king, grimes, maric a fit ad in form vickery, griffiths and you become competetive against most sides. without them your just another also ran.
gotta agree here.
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
lol daniel. sort of a two bob each way post there bud.
you change losing culture simply by winning. you win when you have enough players capable of winning.
your looking for answers well the most obvious one is right there staring at you.
the 22 who played were not good enough plain and simple.that 22 wont win you games against most sides. without a doubt the single biggest problem at the club atm is depth we just dont have any.
we dont even have a good best 22 the bottom 5 or 6 fall away dranatically but we are forced to play them.
foley, martin, king, grimes, maric a fit ad in form vickery, griffiths and you become competetive against most sides. without them your just another also ran.
gotta agree here.
I don't agree. It's true that any club must have good players but some clubs get the most out of players many thought were no good.
Look at the bombers. Alot here on this forum didn't think their list was much chop but even with 20 players on the injury list they keep making finals.
Many experts didn't rate Sydney but they still find a way to win and make finals consistantly.
The pies can just bring in youngsters to play their role.
Etc etc. Etc.
These clubs have something we don't have. The one ingredient that makes lesser players better makes finals a reality and the hope of premierships more than a pipe dream......
Culture of winning, culture of excellence, culture of success.
The club hasn't fixed this issue and yesterday confirmed it.
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well i'll stick my neck out and say if cotch was in the middle for that last bounce we would have won..theres not a hope in hell he would have let them take the ball away
Agree, but what dissapoints me is after Grigg's kick was smothered Deledio had his hands almost on the ball but took his eyes off hit expecting a hit instead of just grabbing it and chucking it on the boot at all costs.
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
Dead right, why do we seem to be the only team with that culture ingrained, it's like every player taht comes through has it, it's a desease....
yep every player we recruit is rubbish, every coach we hire cant coach, every asisstant coach we recruit cant teach. etc etc
every draw we get handed is tough, every ground we play on is tough. its all a load of scata
Its a disease and the only player in the last 20 years, that ive seen that hasnt inherited it at any stage of their career is Cotch.
we have a aboriginal centre at Punt Road yet cant develop any of them enough to stay. why???
we cant put sides away and nail them to the wall? why
we have a lack of belief and a few wins against sides we normally do well against aint going to hide that
It was a lack of belief from the coach that had Cotch sitting on the pine in the last minute of the most important match of the year, newman not in the backline and our players not playing man on man
Pretty well nailed it Daniel...WHY..thats what I wan't to know, and they don't answer those questions for us do they??
Gee there's some fool stuffwit post on here eff me! Let's sack the coach, let's sack the board lets go back to square one and start from scratch. The problem with that is you dicks would give the new board, new coach new players 10 minuts to preform before you would call for the same thing! It's actually more embarrassing reading some of the hysterical head up behinds posts here than it was to loose yesterday. Seriously allot of you just have no idea :wallywink
show me one post where i have said Sack the coach. Just one since Dimma has been made coach??? Keep searching
It is people like you who cant read simple English
??? A bit paranoid there mate :lol :lol I have never said you want to coach sacked :huh its the rest of the childish ill informed dribble that makes me think you have your head firmly planted up our ass :wallywink
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well i'll stick my neck out and say if cotch was in the middle for that last bounce we would have won..theres not a hope in hell he would have let them take the ball away
This is unforgivable. Neither Tuck nor Cotchin in the mids on the last bounce, very poor coaching.
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Tuck was in there im sure, unbelivable cotchin wasnt there :banghead
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Do what I do folks, and stop putting yourself through unnecessary pain.
I'm over them!
what draws you back onto a fan forum then froarsy, just sayin ::)
I like pain - just said :P
Hey Bo, still watch and support them, get upset when they lose, but very immune to all the crap these days, as in, I'm not going to belt myself up over it
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In the 33 years ive lived , i have never known a human being to be a bigger "i told you so'er" than WAT/PNGQT.
It is truly amazing.
I will add, that ive also never known someone to be so rude to people that disagree with his point of view, or suck up so much to people that do actually agree with his point.
Anyone that disagrees with the aforementioned WAT/PNGQT is shot down continuously.
Why dont you start 48739 threads for the posts of yours that are genuinely wrong?
Hooray, you thought we would lose to the Gold Coast. Someone buy the man a drink and celebrate this correct prediction.
The thread isn't about what you think of me, I couldn't care less, it's about the honesty of the suporters, posters on this forum and the players mental weakness, please try and stick to topic and don't turn this is into a personal attack on me..AGAIN, just because you don't like my thoughts.
Thank you
Didn't comment on your thoughts.
More commenting on your first 3 paragraphs. They ooze arrogance and rudeness.
Look at me, look at me. You're all a pack of fools, I was right I was right. Hardy hardy ha, I was right your all fools, I'm the king.
Shove
It
Straight
Up
Your
behind
No you didn't, you became personal, but thats how you operate I suppose...
Think you are being a damn sight ruder than me pal....
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Maric also coughed up possession in the last minute or so.
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Maric also coughed up possession in the last minute or so.
Maric is crap, jack and I know our stuff....FACT
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Maric also coughed up possession in the last minute or so.
jack and I know our stuff....FACT
Haunting words......just haunting....not even worth an 'oh dear'......
Oh dear :-[
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would have to be one of the smartest posts i have read :thumbsup
Culture lost us the game, not location, depth, coach
all were contributing factors no doubt, but ultimately the loser mentality still exists at the club. It is 95% between the ears
When their backs are against the wall, expect a loss more times than not
lol daniel. sort of a two bob each way post there bud.
you change losing culture simply by winning. you win when you have enough players capable of winning.
your looking for answers well the most obvious one is right there staring at you.
the 22 who played were not good enough plain and simple.that 22 wont win you games against most sides. without a doubt the single biggest problem at the club atm is depth we just dont have any.
we dont even have a good best 22 the bottom 5 or 6 fall away dranatically but we are forced to play them.
foley, martin, king, grimes, maric a fit ad in form vickery, griffiths and you become competetive against most sides. without them your just another also ran.
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Fix this culture issue and we won't except underperformed hacks that have been there too long and haven't improved. - recruit well and we wont have a shedload of hacks
Fix this culture issue and players we recruit won't all of a sudden forget how to kick. - recruit well and we will have players with good skills.
Fix this culture issue and we don't lose to a team that hadn't won a game. - recruit well and we wont regularly drop games we shouldnt. all sides drop the odd surprise game.
Fix this culture issue and we make finals regardless of how many injuries we may have. - recruit well and we will build our depth
Fix this culture issue and we aren't waiting another 30 years for a premiership. - recruit well and we will win a premiership
not wrong imo. its all about the cattle you have and how well you recruit.
lets just say we all agree at the end of 09 we had just 10 long term keepers a lot of us were saying similar. so from a terribly low base of 10 how long do you think it should take to build a premiership side. 5 yrs 7 yrs 10 yrs.how long. a damn sight more than 3 im sure you would agree.
what are you saying we should not only be able to turn our list around in a short time but change our culture what ever that is.
winning culture is one thing only, winning games. winning only happens when you have enough good players to achieve it. we have fallen away because the players who have come in are not good enough or players have reverted back to their natural level.
i can tell ya now malthouse sheedy clarkson any coach at any other club would struggle to win games with us because of one thing. we dont have the players who are capable of winning on a consistent basis. but we are getting them albeit slowly.
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What you doing up this late claw? Have a beam with me.
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What you doing up this late claw? Have a beam with me.
crook as a dog off the booze atm. but enjoy and have one for me.
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Do what I do folks, and stop putting yourself through unnecessary pain.
I'm over them!
what draws you back onto a fan forum then froarsy, just sayin ::)
I like pain - just said :P
Hey Bo, still watch and support them, get upset when they lose, but very immune to all the crap these days, as in, I'm not going to belt myself up over it
You
Have
Nailed
It
:bow
:thumbsup
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Do what I do folks, and stop putting yourself through unnecessary pain.
I'm over them!
what draws you back onto a fan forum then froarsy, just sayin ::)
I like pain - just said :P
Hey Bo, still watch and support them, get upset when they lose, but very immune to all the crap these days, as in, I'm not going to belt myself up over it
You
Have
Nailed
It
:bow
:thumbsup
:whistle