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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on July 16, 2012, 09:29:54 PM
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Thoughts?
- Will be 29 next year. Can add depth to midfield and pace? Has reasonably low currency now compared to his ability.
Out of contract at the end of the year.
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Would have to cost us nothing........I would be going as hard as possible for Caddy, rumor has it he is defiantly comming back home ;)
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Too old.
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Pass
To old
And he's from Melb can't have that ;D
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Would have to cost us nothing........I would be going as hard as possible for Caddy, rumor has it he is defiantly comming back home ;)
He's going to the bums.
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Hawks. :thumbsup
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Would have to cost us nothing........I would be going as hard as possible for Caddy, rumor has it he is defiantly comming back home ;)
He's going to the bums.
Yeah and Clarke was going to Freemantle last year too :whistle :whistle
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have always liked brent as a player.would certainly add depth and importantly experience to our list.at 29 he would have to be cheap but it seems he ready to walk anyway.
what i want to know is where does it say you cant take 28 plus yr olds to improve your list. seems to me after all the crying over the gc game making finals is important to most. well maloney would certainly go a long way in helping us make finals. as long as you use your top 50 picks on kids and thus cater to the long term with hopefully quality you are probably better of targeting proven players than kids late nd and rookie draft.
just a scenario.
caddy pick 10 or there abouts. two picks around 30 on mids and both play 10 plus games first yr. pick around 50 on a tall pick around 68 on a need.possibly mid. psd maloney, free agency chaplin or say merrett. a couple of mature state league players with rookie picks two come to mid tom lee and max duffy for instance.
we could grow the list with 20yo caddy maloney chaplin, 22yo lee and 20 yo duffy and still heavily participate in the nd.
what would people rather have say a 29 yr old podsiadly who gives 5 or so very good yrs of high quality footy or take a punt on a skinny kid in the rookie draft where every single indicator says hes likely to fail after we hang onto him for 2 yrs. and if he makes it we will wait 3 yrs anyway.
as long as we retain out top 50 picks it really doesnt matter the age of the players we take. as long as they can play if they are older.
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Agree think he's probably just a bit to old. If he was 27 next year I would take him. 29 is too old.
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Sylvia
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F no
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Unreal, suggesting recruiting 29 year olds at this stage of the apparent "rebuild", please.
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If we were sitting top 4 - maybe. Where we are - no way.
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Id be more interested in sylvia, either free agent or package up connors with a 3 rounder
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Id be more interested in sylvia, either free agent or package up connors with a 3 rounder
Connors?
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Sylvia
yep
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Id be more interested in sylvia, either free agent or package up connors with a 3 rounder
Of all the trade a spud and a poo pick this has to take the cake. ;D
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Sylvia would go down in our history as a worse trade than Kingsley. Absolute unreliable dud who only ever plays 1-2 half decent games a year - both against us unfortunately. :banghead
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Sylvia would go down in our history as a worse trade than Kingsley. Absolute unreliable dud who only ever plays 1-2 half decent games a year - both against us unfortunately. :banghead
We didn't trade for Kingsley. Sylvia can play. He can be an absolute weapon on his day. Not sure I want us to take a punt on him though ;D
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Caddy-yes. Moloney too old
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Caddy-yes. Moloney too old
caddy yes moloney yes.mature state league mid yes. 2nd rounder mid yes. compensation pick mid yes.. thats 5 genuine mids right there and an immediate improvement in mid field depth both in the long term and short term.
it also leaves us with two reasonable nd picks in pick 50ish 68ish plus a free agency option and rookie selections.
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Sylvia would go down in our history as a worse trade than Kingsley. Absolute unreliable dud who only ever plays 1-2 half decent games a year - both against us unfortunately. :banghead
If we could get him via pre season draft, Id jump at it. Can absolutely tear teams apart when on. Problem is he has only shown it in sporadic patches but I'd take a punt on a player that would potentially bolster our matchwinners stocks. Wouldnt give up any of our first 3 picks though
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hmm lets see here. its okay to take a what 28 yo next yr in sylvia a player who is so inonsistant its not funny but its not alright to take 29 yo next yr who is hard at it consistent and add depth to an area we badly lack in.
we are talking late nd or psd picks here i hope when we talk about maybe getting either of them.
thing is sylvia wont go anywhere and moloney is as good as out the door .
i dont get this too old age thing. they are only too old if you have no kids in your system. last time i looked we have more kids than most and could really do with some more older types to show the way and add some ready made depth to an area thats lacking it. even if they are only there for two or three yrs.
the only criteria is age you aint going to give up good picks for 28 or 29 yr olds.
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Maloney will be 29 in January and 29 throughout the 2013 campaign
Sylvia is still 26 and will turn 27 in the off season, will be 27 throughout the entire 2013 campaign
dunno why you are trying to make it out as if its the same thing, 2 years is a bit of a difference
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Chris knights.
Struggling to get a decent run of games at Adelaide and he's a Victorian.
A mid / forward with muscles. :thumbsup
he'd be cheap too.
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Chris knights.
Struggling to get a decent run of games at Adelaide and he's a Victorian.
A mid / forward with muscles. :thumbsup
he'd be cheap too.
He would want o be cheap to, has pee poor disposal. Would give him the benefit of the doubt because of his bad run of injury that he can improove on it but with is injury history and his disposal he would be a big risk IMO.
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the only criteria is age you aint going to give up good picks for 28 or 29 yr olds.
With the introduction of free agency, we should not have to give up any picks at all for a 28/29 yo, most of them should be unrestricted free agents by that age.
We have an age gap on our list that Sylvia could assist with but he is terribly unreliable and I can't see that changing. Moloney is second rate, rookie list spot and rookie list wages at best on him.
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No colin. No.
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Too old now for us but we could have had Moloney as part of the Ottens trade back in 2004. Geelong originally offered us their first pick (#16) plus Moloney. Greg Miller wanted two first rounders so Geelong traded Moloney to Melbourne in exchange for one of their two back-to-back first rounders (#12) which was passed onto us. Melbourne drafted Bate with their other first rounder and we of course drafted Meyer and Pattison :P.
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Go the NBA route and try pick up cheap veterans?
Would rather Moloney than Sylvia.
I agree with Santa that we need to pick up some mature agers from state leagues this year in particular a decent KPF.
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Maloney will be 29 in January and 29 throughout the 2013 campaign
Sylvia is still 26 and will turn 27 in the off season, will be 27 throughout the entire 2013 campaign
dunno why you are trying to make it out as if its the same thing, 2 years is a bit of a difference
Yep kind of shoots holes in any argument claw is trying to make there.
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Chris knights.
Struggling to get a decent run of games at Adelaide and he's a Victorian.
A mid / forward with muscles. :thumbsup
he'd be cheap too.
He would want o be cheap to, has pee poor disposal. Would give him the benefit of the doubt because of his bad run of injury that he can improove on it but with is injury history and his disposal he would be a big risk IMO.
it was mentioned by the commentators during the adelaide game that his disposal efficiency is running in the mid 50s this year.
yeah, would want to come dirt cheap if he kept that up.
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Chris knights.
Struggling to get a decent run of games at Adelaide and he's a Victorian.
A mid / forward with muscles. :thumbsup
he'd be cheap too.
He would want o be cheap to, has pee poor disposal. Would give him the benefit of the doubt because of his bad run of injury that he can improove on it but with is injury history and his disposal he would be a big risk IMO.
it was mentioned by the commentators during the adelaide game that his disposal efficiency is running in the mid 50s this year.
yeah, would want to come dirt cheap if he kept that up.
Bit harsh calling Brad Miller dirt mate.
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Good honest player but too old to consider for a midfielder
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Maloney will be 29 in January and 29 throughout the 2013 campaign
Sylvia is still 26 and will turn 27 in the off season, will be 27 throughout the entire 2013 campaign
dunno why you are trying to make it out as if its the same thing, 2 years is a bit of a difference
8/11/85. seeing as i sauid the age they would turn next yr that date says sylvia will be 28 in november. molomney turns 29 january.
as far as im concerned 27 28 30 they are all getting on and are short term. my preference would be moloney as a player. but would not have a problem if we went after sylvia if he cost little.. moloney will cost nothing and sylvia will.
unlike most on here i have no problems in taking mature players who are proven. the only criteria i put on it is that every yr we cater to the long term with decent picks.
caddy at10 is long term.
two kids in the nd at around pick 30/35 is targeting both decent quality and long term solutions.
unlike most age at the right price is no problem i think it folly to overlook an oppottunity to upgrade players on your list.
the only time a player who improves your list is too old to take is if hes crap, or you ignore the long term in doing it.
ive had this debate before. only about 1 in 6 rookies make it. we put at least two yrs into them some times more and at the end of the day we dont even get a game out of them. its a similar thing with late nd and kids taken in the psd. there is nothing wrong with giving mature state league and older players from other clubs a go its actually a better option than taking a shedload of 18 yr old rookies.
there are only so many options ways to get players into your system why on earth would you want to ignore one of them. rcriting is not just about 18 yr olds. its about improving your list at every opportunity weather that be a 18yo 24 yo or 29 yo.
james podsiadly was 28 29 when taken would he have been to old nope. was cuz or leon cameron at age 28.
getting brent maloney and cutting say jackson nahas white or any number of hacks would be an immediate upgrade.
we bemoan the lack of up to standard mids and depth in this area, we bemoan the loss of just one inside mid like foley. and say no foley no wins yet want to ignore a cheap solution. the lack of older experienced players is a big reason why we cant make finals and theres nuff nuffs who insist we should.
if supporters want finals next yr they had damn well better hope we address some glaring holes in the list with mature players because quite frankly taking 18 yr olds wont do it they only really come into it 3 or 4 yrs down the track.
a player like moloney and a few others would immediately improve depth in the midfield and give us a chance to make finals right now. do people really think we can make finals by recruiting a bunch of skinny kids we dont have enough mids as it is. to make finals in the short term you need both short med and long term solutions. with the long term the major consideration.
brent maloney would immediately improve our list and be a part of our 22 any one who thinks other wise is kidding themselves. he would very much be a short term solution where we would hopefully get 2 or 3 yrs maybe more out of him. he would cost nothing more than a psd pick or a token late nd pick to melbourne because of his age and the fact he is going to walk or it seems that way. yes hes a short term solution but as long as we take our share of kids does that really matter.
most wanted tuck out the door lol. at 31 should we hang onto him? geez 31 he musnt have anything to offer anymore get him the hell out too old lol.
finally im not saying moloney is a superstar but he is a good solid inside player how many of them do we have.
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Seriously why are we wasting time on mediocre players to bring into the club?
Let's go for the throat, if we gonna pour money into the FTF to build with freeagency and OOC players. Let's go after players like buddy franklin. Let's talk serious dollars here and get serious benefits from getting big name players who can provide. Improved onfield performance, improved membership 15k plus easy, improved sponsorship partnering... :shh
Imagine a tigers lineup with buddy in dreamtime crushing the bombres by 60pts :birthday Hirdy
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Seriously why are we wasting time on mediocre players to bring into the club?
Let's go for the throat, if we gonna pour money into the FTF to build with freeagency and OOC players. Let's go after players like buddy franklin. Let's talk serious dollars here and get serious benefits from getting big name players who can provide. Improved onfield performance, improved membership 15k plus easy, improved sponsorship partnering... :shh
Imagine a tigers lineup with buddy in dreamtime crushing the bombres by 60pts :birthday Hirdy
Imagine if we had only overlooked Tambling :whistle