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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tigerwoods on July 24, 2012, 11:27:51 AM
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A joke that it took this long for him to get a nomination, think the odds are under-rating the year he's had so far. Any chance?
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Someone from GWS will win it - guaranteed
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Should but no the afl want one of their gws babies to win it
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Wouldn't say he deserves it anyway
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why not, hes been pretty consistent?
does anyone know who the panel of judges are?
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Same panel as the all Australian selection
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:cheers
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which seems to be;
mathews
bartlett
frawley
luke darcy
Glen Jakovich
Ricciuto
as well as the sawed off little dictator and his sidekick anderson
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Mitch Wallis will be favourite.
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Same panel as the all Australian selection
Which just highlights why he wont win ;D
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Someone from GWS will win it - guaranteed
Toby Greene would but now can't due to a suspension.
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Cameron will win it easily and deservedly so, has been incredibly impressive as a first year KPF. Gun
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
this guy.... with his dribble
perhaps u should take note and do the same about your BF Jack
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'Pup' is a wanker. We'd all hate him if he played for another club. However, his pointing and yelling is too good for us to stay mad at him :bow
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
this guy.... with his dribble
perhaps u should take note and do the same about your BF Jack
Do you actually watch their games?
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Now that grimesy has effectively cruelled his chances, its ellis's to lose.....toby green will have his supporters , still a way off what ellis has been able to contribute :shh
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
this guy.... with his dribble
perhaps u should take note and do the same about your BF Jack
Do you actually watch their games?
:ROTFL
you have nfi :lol fair dinkum. You are going to sit there and argue that cameron cant play :sleep
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
this guy.... with his dribble
perhaps u should take note and do the same about your BF Jack
Do you actually watch their games?
:ROTFL
you have nfi :lol fair dinkum. You are going to sit there and argue that cameron cant play :sleep
In that nonsense you forgot to answer his question
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
this guy.... with his dribble
perhaps u should take note and do the same about your BF Jack
Do you actually watch their games?
:ROTFL
you have nfi :lol fair dinkum. You are going to sit there and argue that cameron cant play :sleep
In that nonsense you forgot to answer his question
Nonsense?
that captures the essence ...
Ive seen enough of Cameron to know he will win it in a canter. He is one of the biggest talents in the game, will be one of the best power forwards in the comp, bookmark it and come talk to me in a few years.
and yeahright, before taking offence at the above post and getting in over your head, chucky is still steaming that i had the temerity to have a go at our own Jack reiwoldt in the GWS game for not getting on his bike and providing a target.
1st gamer patton and 10th gamer cameron on the day put our jack to shame with their workrate, chucky, being the petty little troll that he is, likes to have a crack at every opp as he still harbours a grudge
Edit: Leave out the personal insults ppl!
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Is Jeremy Cameron gothic or emo?
Can't tell.
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Is Jeremy Cameron gothic or emo?
Can't tell.
He's Pappi.....
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Theres only 1 pappi
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He's Big, he's Pappi, he's the Big Pappi :clapping
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Big Pappi
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No he wont he is a lazy ass footballer, watch their whole games just not the highlights of him kicking goals
this guy.... with his dribble
perhaps u should take note and do the same about your BF Jack
Do you actually watch their games?
:ROTFL
you have nfi :lol fair dinkum. You are going to sit there and argue that cameron cant play :sleep
In that nonsense you forgot to answer his question
Nonsense?
that captures the essence ...
Ive seen enough of Cameron to know he will win it in a canter. He is one of the biggest talents in the game, will be one of the best power forwards in the comp, bookmark it and come talk to me in a few years.
and yeahright, before taking offence at the above post and getting in over your head, chucky is still steaming that i had the temerity to have a go at our own Jack reiwoldt in the GWS game for not getting on his bike and providing a target.
1st gamer patton and 10th gamer cameron on the day put our jack to shame with their workrate, chucky, being the petty little troll that he is, likes to have a crack at every opp as he still harbours a grudge
Edit: Leave out the personal insults ppl!
Im mr Furious
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Forgot all about cameron, hiws he been of late, might have ailed off some seeing the scores. If ellis finished of remainder of year like recent form, hed be right up there :shh
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and yeahright, before taking offence at the above post and getting in over your head
LMAO scary dude this one
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and yeahright, before taking offence at the above post and getting in over your head
LMAO scary dude this one
haha yeah keep defending reiwoldts performances flog, hows that working out for ya :shh
:lol
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No, he wont win the rising star
Good players kick those goals inside 50]
Bad players dont
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Brandon seems to be the quintessential Richmond type player, he is neither a good player nor a bad player, he is an average player or as the late great Jack Dyer used to say - a good ordinary player. The question is why we used a 1st round pick on him.
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Brandon Ellis will win the award for making the most mistakes in a game.
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Brandon seems to be the quintessential Richmond type player, he is neither a good player nor a bad player, he is an average player or as the late great Jack Dyer used to say - a good ordinary player. The question is why we used a 1st round pick on him.
Very very harsh, if he's at this level in 2-3 years time then yes agreed, but its his first year ffs, why are you labelling him?
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Not really concerned about Ellis..First year ,played every game ,won rising star nomination.You really cant expect much more.of the youngsters the one that concerns me most is Reece.To me he lacks smarts around the contest,i still mantain he also lacks leg speed.
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75% of them lack smarts around the football. They take turns each week. Under 10 kids lock a game down better
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Not really concerned about Ellis..First year ,played every game ,won rising star nomination.You really cant expect much more.of the youngsters the one that concerns me most is Reece.To me he lacks smarts around the contest,i still mantain he also lacks leg speed.
Nothing wrong with Conca
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To me he lacks smarts around the contest,i still mantain he also lacks leg speed.
This is basically my view as well.
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Not really concerned about Ellis..First year ,played every game ,won rising star nomination.You really cant expect much more.of the youngsters the one that concerns me most is Reece.To me he lacks smarts around the contest,i still mantain he also lacks leg speed.
Nothing wrong with Conca
Conca also has some issues, the get it and kick it wherever mentality needs to be put out of his game.
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Conca has huge issues, any other club would have dropped him over the last month
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Missing Foley has been a huge loss for us.he goes in and gets the ball,and carrys it too.he generates momentum around the packs.He adds another one to the mix, other clubs need to tag.Despite Reece being thrust into the Foley role of late i think he has fallen well short.However he is only in his second year and i think i need to keep reminding myself of that fact
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Not really concerned about Ellis..First year ,played every game ,won rising star nomination.You really cant expect much more.of the youngsters the one that concerns me most is Reece.To me he lacks smarts around the contest,i still mantain he also lacks leg speed.
Nothing wrong with Conca
Conca also has some issues, the get it and kick it wherever mentality needs to be put out of his game.
every single player who works in an under to get the hard ball will do this, especially first and 2nd year players. Ellis's yesterday was unfortunate, he got the hot ball slammed it onto the boot, unfortunately it didnt come off, he learnt from it. Ive seen Conca do the same, they'll learn, Ive also seen Conca one grab it at full pace and watch him telling seasoned players where to go, dont worry about a few errors, his kicking is sound
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I dont think conca and ellis is the issue.
Its not that bottom or the top level thats hurting us.
The middle group: moore. Miller. Jackson. Mcgaune. Graham. Amaric.
Furthermore the like of heslin, macdonald, connors being spinless little girls has put extra load of conca and ellis. Foley, helbig, aarnot not being able to play doesnt help.
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Good post
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Facts are that Ellis and Conca butcher the ball by foot.
Ellis running into an open goal and missing last night wasn't good
Conca can't kick
Is gutsy but another who butchers the ball
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I still think he should have nailed that goal in the last though. Seemed to hesitate and wasn't sure whether to pass or take the shot. He's so focused on doing the team thing sometimes he takes the wrong option. Thought he looked shot in the last. Playing every game starting to take its toll I reckon. But you've got to keep playing him. The more games he gets this year the more he's going to learn and build on this for next. Gotta develop players to help out cotch, tuck and lids.
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I dont think conca and ellis is the issue.
Its not that bottom or the top level thats hurting us.
The middle group: moore. Miller. Jackson. Mcgaune. Graham. Amaric.
Furthermore the like of heslin, macdonald, connors being spinless little girls has put extra load of conca and ellis. Foley, helbig, aarnot not being able to play doesnt help.
You cant blame blokes like Miller & Graham who were not playing last night. The club is not using them properly & a Miller or Graham would have made all the difference last night.
it blokes who turn the ball over with hack kicks like Conca, Post, Ellis, & a lazy Rewoldt who cost games. add McGuane who every game gives away a free kick that will give a goal away, Moore & King who are not 100% match fit should not get games ( thats a selection & coaching fault ). That alone will give you a loss before the game starts. Playing a dehydrated fool will let down all team-mates & is bad for any kid to see
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Not really concerned about Ellis..First year ,played every game ,won rising star nomination.You really cant expect much more.of the youngsters the one that concerns me most is Reece.To me he lacks smarts around the contest,i still mantain he also lacks leg speed.
Nothing wrong with Conca
Conca also has some issues, the get it and kick it wherever mentality needs to be put out of his game.
last week was the first time that has really surfaced, and a couple of times it was warranted due to pressure.
there seems to be a bit of panic creeping in amongst the younger players in these tight games, but that will happen when they are expected to to step up earlier than they should be.
If these kids had the luxuary of slotting into a side with lots of experienced cool heads around them, it would be a different story.
I just hope they can ride the storm rather than break.
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havent seen the replay yet but Ellis looked to have shirked a contest at the start of the second quarter... Not good and a concern going forward
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cant kick which is a real issue.
His attempt running into goal and missing was poor.
And lets dont talk about his kick in D50 in last quarter
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Let's blame the 18 year old that's surrounded by onions. Had a bigger impact than most of the seasons. Execution and footy smarts at AFL will come with experience. He had some real shocking kicks last night, but don't forget the ripper 50m pass on the left into Dusty up forward.
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cant kick which is a real issue.
His attempt running into goal and missing was poor.
And lets dont talk about his kick in D50 in last quarter
You know what Jack I agree with you there on his D50 kick and missing a running goal as he did last week but the kid tries to do the right thing and I can't fault him for that and hence I am happy to give him a go and know that as a first year kid he will learn. SO whilst I may be critical of him I am also philosophical and certain that he has the attributes that situations such as these will tach him a lesson where he and the club will reap the benefits in the future.
In terms of the rising star he won't get it but at the end of the day who really cares.
It's nice to win but you get judged at the end of your career not after your first season.
Just ask Danyle Pearce.
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but you see other first years players thread them
I rest my case
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Ellis has not been played as a forward this year. Anything but...
However to single Ellis out when experienced players in the 2nd like Lids Jack twice and Nahas all missed relatively easy shots any one of which would have won us the game had they been accurate and to single out a kid who has played 17 games merely to exentuate that our drafting is all wrong and the kid is a dud to get the rank and file en masse onto an anti Dimma and RFC theme is quite laughable at this stage of the year also.
Whilst I know you worked at the RFC you should at least rather than bag the kid and the coach knowing the magnitude of the job he has had to deal with bag the real culprit here as to why we are where we are three years after his departure and lay the blame on that Hopkinsville Goblin who was your boss when you were there who left our list in a state of decay and direpair whilst he cashed in his pennies and continues to do so in his media gigs commenting for the riff raff pundits out there.
However if you want to find everything wrong with the kid then that's fine by me b/c I rest my case.
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Nahas' missed goal in the 2nd was very poor. We have to get better at kicking for goal. Ellis should play for the rest of the year. Give him experience and over summer bulk up.
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However if you want to find everything wrong with the kid then that's fine by me b/c I rest my case.
Don't worry Tucker. Some blokes were actually meant to be born women and that's why they do nothing but whinge. It's time to take a break from footy for some supporters, it's not healthy to carry so much negativity.
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but you see other first years players thread them
I rest my case
Do they all the time without missing, well there you go.
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but you see other first years players thread them
I rest my case
Do they all the time without missing, well there you go.
of course they do chuck...when you watch highlight reels
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no
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Talking about players missing goals, I am still spewing about grigg missing that one a few weeks ago from point blank.
Isnt he one of your favourites Jackster?
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Have to blame the recruiters and coach for this one. He can't kick. Sure he competes hard. But kicking is a pretty important attribute in a game called "football"
He might develop but didn't Hardwick grand stand that he would only recruit skilled players......
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Well, well, well. Fancy seeing Jokestar taking pot-shots at an 18 y/o first year player. No one loves a loss more ol' Jokey! :clapping
Brandon's a good kick. Nothing to worry about there. He did'nt adapt well to the conditions last night, but he has demonstrated sound skills and decision making over the past month. One poor game in the wet and now he's a waste of a draft pick?
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Well, well, well. Fancy seeing Jokestar taking pot-shots at an 18 y/o first year player. No one loves a loss more ol' Jokey! :clapping
Brandon's a good kick. Nothing to worry about there. He did'nt adapt well to the conditions last night, but he has demonstrated sound skills and decision making over the past month. One poor game in the wet and now he's a waste of a draft pick?
Good post Jake
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correct me if i'm wrong but when we recruited the lad wasnt his kicking one of his big strengths.In fact if i remember correctly he was heralded as one of our kicking out options..To be honest his kicking has been atrocious so far..And yes i am well aware that he is barely an embryo in the football world.
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David King gave him a big whack last week saying he won't be an elite player
His kicking is ordinary
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Well we all know how king went at coaching don't we!
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David King gave him a big whack last week saying he won't be an elite player
His kicking is ordinary
lol....this is a lie, I heard exactly what Kingy said and what he said was " he can't see what special trats Ellis has for a first round draft pick" "he can't see Hume becoming anything special because he has no trick" (that he could see) he never said a word about being a poor kick!
Also what King seemed to forget is that even though he was a first round pick he wasn't exactly taken high! I don't see anything special in the players that were picked after Ellis either?
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David King gave him a big whack last week saying he won't be an elite player
His kicking is ordinary
lol....this is a lie, I heard exactly what Kingy said and what he said was " he can't see what special trats Ellis has for a first round draft pick" "he can't see Hume becoming anything special because he has no trick" (that he could see) he never said a word about being a poor kick!
Also what King seemed to forget is that even though he was a first round pick he wasn't exactly taken high! I don't see anything special in the players that were picked after Ellis either?
If we didn't take him then Freo were going to anyway. He was always going to go around then. Kid will be alright. Haters gonna hate.
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David King gave him a big whack last week saying he won't be an elite player
His kicking is ordinary
dont think thats actually right from i witnessed from King
oh well you know best. :gobdrop
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Well I ain't talking about what he said on SEN
Talking about another conversation
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Well I ain't talking about what he said on SEN
Talking about another conversation
Oh really, which one?? Do you have a link?
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Do you think I walk around with a recorder in my pocket ::)
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:lol
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Ellis was recruited for his kicking skills both feet
You would have to be joking
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Do you think I walk around with a recorder in my pocket ::)
No but surly you can tell us where you heard it or did he tell you that personally? Surly itsnot to hard to Remember those details unless your just making it up :lol
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Ellis was recruited for his kicking skills both feet
You would have to be joking
Nice diversion, now tell where David King said he was a poor kick?
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In a meeting
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And furthermore what I seen on Saturday night .especially running into goal proves David Kings views
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Mick Malthouse said that Ellis's kicking is elite both sides, an the tigers know this allowing him to take the kick outs. I believe Malthouse might have a little more credibility than King :lol
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what we have seen in the last month, I would say david king is correct.
Dont you watch the game ?
His kicking has been terrible especially the past 3 weeks
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what we have seen in the last month, I would say david king is correct.
Dont you watch the game ?
His kicking has been terrible especially the past 3 weeks
Is playing tired, tired body cant execute skills properly
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Let's pretend he didn't put a ripper 50m left foot pass on the run into Dusty.
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Mick Malthouse said that Ellis's kicking is elite both sides, an the tigers know this allowing him to take the kick outs. I believe Malthouse might have a little more credibility than King :lol
Where is the source of your Malthouse quote.. Just saying.
Rance was kicking out as well. I guess that makes him an elite kick...... I reckon its more likely that Hardwick doesn't have a clue.
The commentators during the game, Darcy said he needed to work on his kicking and a little later BT said he was an elite kick. Clearly one of them was reading off a piece of paper from the Richmond propaganda machine and the other was watching the game. Probably the same piece of paper Malthouse was given.
When he isn't blindly running into opponents and getting smothered, he consistently sprays the ball and his decision making has been poor all year. Whether a couple of preseasons can cure that is another story. History shows richmond recruits get worse the longer they stay at the club.
Where he has improved over the year is his spread and his contested footy and one strength he does have is penetration in his kicking. But that doesn't make you a good kick, just a long kick.
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Mick Malthouse said that Ellis's kicking is elite both sides, an the tigers know this allowing him to take the kick outs. I believe Malthouse might have a little more credibility than King :lol
Where is the source of your Malthouse quote.. Just saying.
It was from a meeting ;)
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Mick Malthouse said that Ellis's kicking is elite both sides, an the tigers know this allowing him to take the kick outs. I believe Malthouse might have a little more credibility than King :lol
Where is the source of your Malthouse quote.. Just saying.
It was from a meeting ;)
hahahah classic.
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The kid had poor game highlighted by the turnover that cost a goal - but in the scheme of things he is on the plus side of the ledger for the season. Needs to bring it home for the rest of the year - possibly needed another break, but coaches decided to play him through.
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Big Pappi
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cant believe some are deriding this KID.
fairdinkum some need a good hard look
at themselves. :lol
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Brandon turns 19 today :birthday
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He's too old.
Dud, delist
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cant believe some are deriding this KID.
fairdinkum some need a good hard look
at themselves. :lol
Spot on rogerd.
Just turned 19 y.o. and only played every game in his debut year. Yep what a disappointment Ellis has been :wallywink.
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Come on, he has had long enough. Delist.
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Come on, he has had long enough. Delist.
That's the OER spirit! :whistle
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what we have seen in the last month, I would say david king is correct.
Dont you watch the game ?
His kicking has been terrible especially the past 3 weeks
Didn't realise you could possibly have become a bigger flog but you've succeeded. :clapping
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what we have seen in the last month, I would say david king is correct.
Dont you watch the game ?
His kicking has been terrible especially the past 3 weeks
have you only started watching richmond games last month?
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what we have seen in the last month, I would say david king is correct.
Dont you watch the game ?
His kicking has been terrible especially the past 3 weeks
Didn't realise you could possibly have become a bigger flog but you've succeeded. :clapping
:lol
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:thumbsup
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what we have seen in the last month, I would say david king is correct.
Dont you watch the game ?
His kicking has been terrible especially the past 3 weeks
have you only started watching richmond games last month?
Of course he only peddles his bs when we are losing, don't hear boo from him when we are winning, apart from the usual attack on a first year player
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::) :shh
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Toby Greene will go close to winning it. Another 30 possies today which is incredible for an 18 year old in his debut season.
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Ellis first kick turnover .watch the game
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Ellis first kick turnover .watch the game
You're a good bloke Jackster :thumbsup
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Thanks Yellow and Hack !
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Ellis sh!ts himself when he disposes of it.
Hope he grows out of it.
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ellis is ok, he is just a bit sore and tired
ffs wankers like jackstar never made it never will, jealousy is a curse but its ingrained in his bloodlines and ancestry. its not jackstars fault he is an inbred
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Ellis poos himself when he disposes of it.
Hope he grows out of it.
Especially in front of goal.
But he's had a good year.
Unlike Geelong or collingwood we don't have the luxury to develop him in the reserves.
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ellis is ok, he is just a bit sore and tired
ffs wankers like jackstar never made it never will, jealousy is a curse but its ingrained in his bloodlines and ancestry. its not jackstars fault he is an inbred
Coles Boy.how much are those bananas this week
? $2.99 a kilo
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1st year player people bringing
him down DISGRACEFUL.
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Won't win the afl rs but has had a very good year
He's in our top ten and will improve with more maturity and giver body
Yes he turns it over but he will be a very good footballer
Please coach get off his back there are duds in our team who have been round for years
Newman and Houlli for example