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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ox on August 13, 2012, 10:02:40 PM
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
Time to build a new culture.
Time has come to establish a new benchmark.
Let Chimp b Chimp,with Chimps number.
He's the best we have had in decades.
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Chimp told me he wants to wear the 69
Yin Yang mother****er
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what a shame
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Chimp told me he wants to wear the 69
Yin Yang mother****er
I heard in a meeting that Relton Roberts wanted to wear 88, the concept was rejected and consequently he let himself go :shh
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
I'll raise you Maurice Rioli.
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
Yes it has been immaculate.
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
I'll raise you Maurice Rioli.
still 30 years
No point in honoring a stuffing number.
Old school mentality.
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
I'll raise you Maurice Rioli.
still 30 years
No point in honoring a stuffing number.
Old school mentality.
It was during the times of old school that we were last successful.
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
I'll raise you Maurice Rioli.
still 30 years
No point in honoring a stuffing number.
Old school mentality.
I'm with you on that one. Prefer Cotchin wears number 9. The number's irrelevant, it's the acts that are important.
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Spot on
Ditch the number
Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
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Apart from Jack Dyers era,it stands for mediocrity since its conception.
Time to build a new culture.
Time has come to establish a new benchmark.
Let Chimp b Chimp,with Chimps number.
He's the best we have had in decades.
It is about building a new culture that pays homage to what made this club, this is rubbish oxx, what next, get rid of the sash....the 17 stays :shh
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
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Cotch captain, keeps 9 :thumbsup
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
Ooh im sorry i didn't realize Broders was captain? Kane Johnson though gee wiz how inspirational was he with his 20 metre set shot behinds. Please give me a spell
I'm in favour of players wearing 17 but why does it have to be the captain. Its complete BS.
whether your 17 or 70 u should wear the jumper with pride. Enter Steve Morris and Tuck. Those are players i really enjoy watching. Not gifted with talent but give it their all and within the rules not like spud Jackson
Cotch stays at 9. Old school leather face mentality don't need it
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
How many years ago did Brodders wear it? Perhaps daniel never saw him.. ;) ;D
BTW Maurice wasn't captain either.
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
How many years ago did Brodders wear it? Perhaps daniel never saw him.. ;) ;D
BTW Maurice wasn't captain either.
I think Broderick's, from memory, number was 17 anyway.
:thumbsup
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
Don't think Paul was ever captain.
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In the future, all captains will wear 9
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I agree, no disrespect to Jack Dyer but this was always a stupid concept and should be dumped whenever the next captain comes along.
Most players would prefer to keep their original number I would think
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In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
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In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Hear hear let Cotch do the number justice
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
Ooh im sorry i didn't realize Broders was captain? Kane Johnson though gee wiz how inspirational was he with his 20 metre set shot behinds. Please give me a spell
I'm in favour of players wearing 17 but why does it have to be the captain. Its complete BS.
whether your 17 or 70 u should wear the jumper with pride. Enter Steve Morris and Tuck. Those are players i really enjoy watching. Not gifted with talent but give it their all and within the rules not like spud Jackson
Cotch stays at 9. Old school leather face mentality don't need it
since when was Rioli captain? :lol
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In the future, all captains will wear 9
With due respect to Cotch (and the late, great Jack), I would hope every skipper following whoever gets to wear whatever number they are issued initially.
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Wgaf
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
Ooh im sorry i didn't realize Broders was captain? Kane Johnson though gee wiz how inspirational was he with his 20 metre set shot behinds. Please give me a spell
I'm in favour of players wearing 17 but why does it have to be the captain. Its complete BS.
whether your 17 or 70 u should wear the jumper with pride. Enter Steve Morris and Tuck. Those are players i really enjoy watching. Not gifted with talent but give it their all and within the rules not like spud Jackson
Cotch stays at 9. Old school leather face mentality don't need it
since when was Rioli captain? :lol
Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers. When was the concept introduced Martello? to give 17 only to captains
Since about 2001 from memory. When did Rioli play or Broderick play?
I said the number should be worn by ANYONE who is fitting.
Sugar and Newman. Yep great inspirational leaders they are
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I said the number should be worn by ANYONE who is fitting.
:lol
thats not what you said;
Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli
is what you said.
When WP pointed out that broddo did the number proud your smug retort was
Ooh im sorry i didn't realize Broders was captain?
as if it was wp that was the fool.
:lol
The world according to daniel is one messed up illogical place.
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FWIW I like the concept, have from the start. It's something that we started as a club and sets us apart from others (I think Port may have followed by using #1 but I may be mistaken). We all bemoan players that don't appear to play for 'the jumper' in this professional arena yet frown upon trying to create a sense of pride and tradition with our captain's number. Go figure.
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true i said "im in favour of anyone who wears 17 but why the captain", and not "the number should be worn by anyone who is fitting". uum who gives a flying f.ark how i wrote it. The meaning is the same you twit. No wonder the world is gone so correct with the likes of you living in it.
pretty sure WP can defend himself but continue on being a little teenager
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:lol
perhaps if you said what you mean rather than expect people to translate stupidity into something sensible
funny little mixed up boy.
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In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
More than good enough for me
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
Ooh im sorry i didn't realize Broders was captain? Kane Johnson though gee wiz how inspirational was he with his 20 metre set shot behinds. Please give me a spell
I'm in favour of players wearing 17 but why does it have to be the captain. Its complete BS.
whether your 17 or 70 u should wear the jumper with pride. Enter Steve Morris and Tuck. Those are players i really enjoy watching. Not gifted with talent but give it their all and within the rules not like spud Jackson
Cotch stays at 9. Old school leather face mentality don't need it
Broderick wasn't captain, neither was Rioli
You said that "just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli" I asked what about Broderick seeing he was player to wear it directly after Rioli.
I asked you a question whether Broderick wore it with pride - a question you still haven't actually answered
FWIW - the concept of having the captain wear number 17 was introduced when Wayne Campbell was captain (his 2nd season IIRC) so around 2004.
The club copped alot of flack in 2002 when Spud gave the number to Paul Hudson; rightly so I might add. So the decision was made that in the future the captain would wear number 17
In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 – a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Agree :thumbsup
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In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Understood.
Point is,the club are adamant about supposedly building a new culture
yet they look to the past for inspiration..
Would we not be better served,laying a new foundation with new aspirations?
ps-Paul Broderick ended up my fave player.Loved him.
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Could change the club name to the Cremorne Panthers and see how that goes?
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is that all u got ?
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Just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli, so what's the point
So Paul Broderick didn't wear it with pride? Didn't deserve to wear it?
Ooh im sorry i didn't realize Broders was captain? Kane Johnson though gee wiz how inspirational was he with his 20 metre set shot behinds. Please give me a spell
I'm in favour of players wearing 17 but why does it have to be the captain. Its complete BS.
whether your 17 or 70 u should wear the jumper with pride. Enter Steve Morris and Tuck. Those are players i really enjoy watching. Not gifted with talent but give it their all and within the rules not like spud Jackson
Cotch stays at 9. Old school leather face mentality don't need it
Broderick wasn't captain, neither was Rioli
You said that "just haven't seen anyone wear with pride since Rioli" I asked what about Broderick seeing he was player to wear it directly after Rioli.
I asked you a question whether Broderick wore it with pride - a question you still haven't actually answered
FWIW - the concept of having the captain wear number 17 was introduced when Wayne Campbell was captain (his 2nd season IIRC) so around 2004.
The club copped alot of flack in 2002 when Spud gave the number to Paul Hudson; rightly so I might add. So the decision was made that in the future the captain would wear number 17
In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Agree :thumbsup
thank you WP for answering in a dignified manner
Broderick was a great player so i answer yes to that question. One of the best trades i've seen we get right
Apologies for any confusion with him or Rioli
I don't remember the issues surrounding giving the no given to Hudson and to be honest i don't care. No should be given to anyone who wears it with pride regardless of stature.
Read Ox's reply. Couldn't agree more but its only my opinion :thumbsup
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I'll cop a bit for this but here goes.....
I think Newy has worn the number 17 with pride and passion but also with plenty of dignity. I understand why people don't rate him but i think he has been a good captain when the pickings were slim. As for next year well i think he should he should get the number one back.
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Newman was a number 17 captain.
Suga was a number 17 captain.
Trent Cotchin is number 9
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is that all u got ?
yep, mods deleted the other efforts ;D
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In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Understood.
Point is,the club are adamant about supposedly building a new culture
yet they look to the past for inspiration..
Would we not be better served,laying a new foundation with new aspirations?
ps-Paul Broderick ended up my fave player.Loved him.
I see it a bit like this oxx, captain blood is to the RFC what the pioneers and explorers were to australia...imagine if some smarmy little upstart said oi bourke or flinders mean nothing to this generation , lets change the name of our streets and highways. Jack dyer made this club such an istitution in this ole town that 3 decades of failure didnt even scratch the surface. Leave no 17 alone
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I like the idea of the captain wearing #17 but in Cotch's case if he were made captain I'd like him to keep the #9 and make it his own throughout the career. If the current crop goes onto win a flag or five ;) then Cotch (barring serious injury) will go down in the Club's history as up there with Dyer, KB (#29), Hart (#4) and Bourke (#30). He's a once in a generation type footballer.
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In all seriousness, Chimp has stated before that nothing would make him prouder than wearing the #17 a few players have.
It's history and symbolism obviously means something to the playing group, even if it doesn't to the ferals, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Understood.
Point is,the club are adamant about supposedly building a new culture
yet they look to the past for inspiration..
Would we not be better served,laying a new foundation with new aspirations?
ps-Paul Broderick ended up my fave player.Loved him.
Pretty much sums it up from my POV. I'll admit, I thought it was a good idea when first begun, but I believe its time to start fresh and make our own history. Retire the jumper until somebody worthy comes along and let whoever is captain keep their number. Its meant to be a proud jumper of an era when we were a war machine, I cant help but feel that whilst the clubs intentions were good, the last 10 years of performances have done nothing whatsoever to add to the reputation of the big 17. With all due respect What has it achieved? Have the players walked taller by the captain wearing it? Have the captains grown by wearing it?
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war machine
makes me think of Essendong
makes me rofl
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I'll cop a bit for this but here goes.....
I think Newy has worn the number 17 with pride and passion but also with plenty of dignity. I understand why people don't rate him but i think he has been a good captain when the pickings were slim. As for next year well i think he should he should get the number one back.
Newy was going ok up until this year. I think he was the best available at the time and what we needed. Think his time is up though, time to pass on to Cotchin.
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im in favour of a new concept at richmond
have 2 captains , cotch and lids
jumpers have a no 17 on the front like the jd memorial game jumper
cotch wears 1 on his back
lids 7 on his back
great idea :thumbsup :gotigers
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gay idea :cheers
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Never liked the idea of making 17 the captains number. If a player like Cotchin establishes himself as a champion wearing no 9. I would rather see him wear it until his career finishes.
They should reserve no 17 to a quality developing ruckman. Given our current list, Maric would have looked good in it when he came across. Would have been a real incentive to come play for Richmond as a Ruck.
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Never liked the idea of making 17 the captains number. If a player like Cotchin establishes himself as a champion wearing no 9. I would rather see him wear it until his career finishes.
They should reserve no 17 to a quality developing ruckman. Given our current list, Maric would have looked good in it when he came across. Would have been a real incentive to come play for Richmond as a Ruck.
Wouldn't mind Maric in the 17 tbh.
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Never liked the idea of making 17 the captains number. If a player like Cotchin establishes himself as a champion wearing no 9. I would rather see him wear it until his career finishes.
They should reserve no 17 to a quality developing ruckman. Given our current list, Maric would have looked good in it when he came across. Would have been a real incentive to come play for Richmond as a Ruck.
Would you have given it to Maric before he played a game or only in hindsight now that he has exceeded everyone's expectations? Using your criteria, should we have given the number to Graham when he first started? Or do we wait until they show a bit and then give it to them, making it impossible for an up and coming champion ruckman to keep his number in the same way you have set aside for Cotchin? Incentive to come from another club and play for Richmond? Pffft.
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gay idea :cheers
:thumbsup
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Never liked the idea of making 17 the captains number. If a player like Cotchin establishes himself as a champion wearing no 9. I would rather see him wear it until his career finishes.
They should reserve no 17 to a quality developing ruckman. Given our current list, Maric would have looked good in it when he came across. Would have been a real incentive to come play for Richmond as a Ruck.
I like this abstract thinking. We could make each number represent a recruiting target:-
No 1 for players who mark crunch balls
No 2 for money hungry defenders that can't kick
No 3 for loyal servants who can't kick
No 4 for insomniacs
Etc etc
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Never liked the idea of making 17 the captains number. If a player like Cotchin establishes himself as a champion wearing no 9. I would rather see him wear it until his career finishes.
They should reserve no 17 to a quality developing ruckman. Given our current list, Maric would have looked good in it when he came across. Would have been a real incentive to come play for Richmond as a Ruck.
Would you have given it to Maric before he played a game or only in hindsight now that he has exceeded everyone's expectations? Using your criteria, should we have given the number to Graham when he first started? Or do we wait until they show a bit and then give it to them, making it impossible for an up and coming champion ruckman to keep his number in the same way you have set aside for Cotchin? Incentive to come from another club and play for Richmond? Pffft.
All players tend to have high numbers especially in Dimma's tenure when they get drafted.
Need to show something before they are offered a lower jumper. No point giving a low number or something as revered as the number 17 to a bloke who after four years may be delisted. Let him earn it and let the club show how much Jack Dyer's number means to it and educate the players on it and our history and maybe then maybe those who come to the club may show a little more respect to the club and guernsey rather than thinking of the RFC as a cash cow to their lives and the aura of having a footy career.
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Never liked the idea of making 17 the captains number. If a player like Cotchin establishes himself as a champion wearing no 9. I would rather see him wear it until his career finishes.
They should reserve no 17 to a quality developing ruckman. Given our current list, Maric would have looked good in it when he came across. Would have been a real incentive to come play for Richmond as a Ruck.
I like this abstract thinking. We could make each number represent a recruiting target:-
No 1 for players who mark crunch balls
No 2 for money hungry defenders that can't kick
No 3 for loyal servants who can't kick
No 4 for insomniacs
Etc etc
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Number 5 for blokes who get caught drink driving and when the coach comes to bail them out the player says did you get done for drink driving too Spud.
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I like the idea of the captain wearing #17 but in Cotch's case if he were made captain I'd like him to keep the #9 and make it his own throughout the career. If the current crop goes onto win a flag or five ;) then Cotch (barring serious injury) will go down in the Club's history as up there with Dyer, KB (#29), Hart (#4) and Bourke (#30). He's a once in a generation type footballer.
Top thoughts MT :thumbsup
Totally agree.
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Actually, thinking it over probably the best way to go (and this will certainly highlight what the players think of the 'tradition') would be to give the new captain the option of keeping his present number or taking #17. If he keeps his own number then #17 gets mothballed until the next change of leadership. Given the option, I have a feeling most players would take the #17.
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When the other players walk out of the race behind the 17 in the sunshine and fans i would be pretty keen to get my hands on that number if i was a player
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Thoughts now about this now that Newy has stepped down as captain?
Should Cotch, if he gets the gig as expected, switch from his #9 to the #17 next year?
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No, let him write his own destiny in the #9
Temp retire the #17
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Let cotch decide
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I'm a sucker for tradition. IMO if Cotch wears 17 it will only make the number even more coveted and in the future we will never have this discussion again. I'm also a fan of retiring numbers like in the hockey and stuff, but retiring 17 after Newman is pretty rich.
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I'm a sucker for tradition. IMO if Cotch wears 17 it will only make the number even more coveted and in the future we will never have this discussion again. I'm also a fan of retiring numbers like in the hockey and stuff, but retiring 17 after Newman is pretty rich.
Exactly Campbell Johnson Newman let Cotch make the number 17 feared and revealed once again at Tigerland. Respect and tradition that binds the modern era to the man who epitomizes Richmond. :thumbsup
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I think Cotch should stick with the No 9. The club however would need to do something else that keeps the no.17 in our supporters memory for that the club could simply name a coterie group "Club 17" or something else like that.
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maybe cotch will stick to 9 and maybe he wont be our next captain :shh
ling was captain b4 selwood, so dont discount deledio yet ;)
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Stop pushing that man. Deledio is not a 30 year old tagger with a couple of years left.
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If Cotchin becomes captain then the decision should be his. I agree with the statement "I like the idea of the captain wearing #17 but in Cotch's case if he were made captain I'd like him to keep the #9 and make it his own throughout the career. If the current crop goes onto win a flag or five then Cotch (barring serious injury) will go down in the Club's history as up there with Dyer, KB (#29), Hart (#4) and Bourke (#30). He's a once in a generation type footballer".
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I think Cotch should stick with the No 9. The club however would need to do something else that keeps the no.17 in our supporters memory for that the club could simply name a coterie group "Club 17" or something else like that.
We already have a coterie named in Jack Dyer's honour. It's called "Jack's Club", it's limited to just 17 members and it costs a pretty penny to be part of it :thumbsup
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We already have a coterie named in Jack Dyer's honour. It's called "Jack's Club", it's limited to just 17 members and it costs a pretty penny to be part of it :thumbsup
Gee Whiz - that's so "working class"
of the club and speaks volumes.
FO!
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Don't be afraid to scratch beneath the surface
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Just give Cotch the choice
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Don't be afraid to scratch beneath the surface
Meth mites again?
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:lol
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Stop pushing that man. Deledio is not a 30 year old tagger with a couple of years left.
deledio will be the youngest tiger to play200 250 300 games in our history
he is a rolls royce and wants the captaincy and imo has earned it , and im not the only one who thinks so :shh
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Lids won't get it and im not the only one who thinks so :shh
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I like the sentiments associated with #17.
However, I truly believe that a player should make his own image in his own number. I dont mean this in any disrespect to #17.
But 'giving up' your number to wear #17 means you lose part of the identity with 'your number'. Imagine if Cotch or even Lids - went on to win 3 brownlows and captain the team to 3 premierships over the next 6 years - wouldnt you want that success to be in the #9 or #3?
Personally, I would.
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WGAF as long as the jumper is yellow and black
I don't yell out "Go number 9!" "Great work number 3!"
Some of you sound like Melbourne supporters
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I don't yell out "Go number 9!" "Great work number 3!"
Yeah you do. I saw you doing that one night
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I don't yell out "Go number 9!" "Great work number 3!"
Yeah you do. I saw you doing that one night
No, no....That was the night he was yelling "Go Dee's" in his best cockney accent ;D
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I don't yell out "Go number 9!" "Great work number 3!"
Yeah you do. I saw you doing that one night
No, no....That was the night he was yelling "Go Dee's" in his best cockney accent ;D
what i yell at strip clubs is my business and you heard me wrong
pull your head out next time