One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ox on September 08, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
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forcing the captain to wear 17 ?
Please
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somethingk.....
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2003 1 game 1 loss
2004 4 wins 18 losses
2005 10-12
2006 11-11
2007 3-18-1
2008 11-10-1
2009 5-16-1
2010 6-16
2011 8-13-1
2012 10-11-1
Overall 69 wins 125 losses 5 draws at 35%
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Thanks TB- Greatly appreciated.
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who said Dyer was the best Richmond player of all time anyway?
stuff him !!
It's a crock of poo.
God forbid i say something about ol Jack - pffft
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You on the gear again?
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Those records say we are on track for 12 wins next year.
Missing finals again :/
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You on the gear again?
;D
Cotchin likes it and Chimp poo doesn't stink.
I'm ok with it.
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You on the gear again?
Yes.
It's a new drug called clarity.
Apart from a bleeding hole and the occasional coach sacking ,it's a plus.
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who said Dyer was the best Richmond player of all time anyway?
stuff him !!
It's a crock of poo.
God forbid i say something about ol Jack - pffft
He put rfc on the map...for that we can thank him
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who said Dyer was the best Richmond player of all time anyway?
stuff him !!
It's a crock of poo.
God forbid i say something about ol Jack - pffft
I'm sure he would roll over in your grave to hear you think that.
Then again, he might not :wallywink
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2003 1 game 1 loss
2004 4 wins 18 losses
2005 10-12
2006 11-11
2007 3-18-1
2008 11-10-1
2009 5-16-1
2010 6-16
2011 8-13-1
2012 10-11-1
Overall 69 wins 125 losses 5 draws at 35%
Our record for the 20 years prior was not much bloody better:
1983-2003: 176 wins 1 draw 261 losses at 40%. :help
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2003 1 game 1 loss
2004 4 wins 18 losses
2005 10-12
2006 11-11
2007 3-18-1
2008 11-10-1
2009 5-16-1
2010 6-16
2011 8-13-1
2012 10-11-1
Overall 69 wins 125 losses 5 draws at 35%
Our record for the 20 years prior was not much bloody better:
1983-2003: 176 wins 1 draw 261 losses at 40%. :help
Smokey includes two finals series in 95-01 and ninth place finishes in 94-96-98-00. :lol :rollin :lol
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He put rfc on the map...for that we can thank him
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Yeh right........and move on.?
I would have thought blokes like Roy Wright did more for the RFC.
2 Brownlows.....
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2003 1 game 1 loss
2004 4 wins 18 losses
2005 10-12
2006 11-11
2007 3-18-1
2008 11-10-1
2009 5-16-1
2010 6-16
2011 8-13-1
2012 10-11-1
Overall 69 wins 125 losses 5 draws at 35%
Our record for the 20 years prior was not much bloody better:
1983-2003: 176 wins 1 draw 261 losses at 40%. :help
Smokey includes two finals series in 95-01 and ninth place finishes in 94-96-98-00. :lol :rollin :lol
Yep, sad isn't it! :'(
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@ Dyer lovers.
How did he put us on the map?
What did he ACTUALLY do for the club apart from be a copper and get stacks of other coppers to join from the bush to play "dirty" footy to intimidate the opposition?
What accolades does he hold in football?
Seems Jack did what he wanted AT the club.
Why do so many blindly follow the legacy ?
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pull your heads out of your arses-club included,ffs!!!
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Come on somebody.
Hit me with the "Jack Stats" and make me stfu!!
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nobody has a clue lol
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"Do it for the Statue,Boys!!"
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:huh3
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@ Dyer lovers.
How did he put us on the map?
What did he ACTUALLY do for the club apart from be a copper and get stacks of other coppers to join from the bush to play "dirty" footy to intimidate the opposition?
What accolades does he hold in football?
Seems Jack did what he wanted AT the club.
Why do so many blindly follow the legacy ?
Does being a premiership coach hold any significance Ox?
He did that
What about playing in premierships?
Those sort of things matter?
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so he owns the club?
Best and fairest=JD Medal.
Captain - JD Number
Coterie = 17 members
Where is the room for new growth?
stuff it - why don't we just call ourselves "The Jack Dyers" ?
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Its like a private boys school in the 50s
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also, 17 is a poo number
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You're a smart guy, while I get your point have no idea why you'd bother with it.
A famous spinner once wanted to make similar point about an even more famous batsmen but held off because he realised the futility in easing one onto a monument.
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@ Dyer lovers.
How did he put us on the map?
What did he ACTUALLY do for the club apart from be a copper and get stacks of other coppers to join from the bush to play "dirty" footy to intimidate the opposition?
What accolades does he hold in football?
Seems Jack did what he wanted AT the club.
Why do so many blindly follow the legacy ?
I'll bite ;D
Never saw him play Ox (retired 30 years before I was born lol) but he holds ...
* the club record of 6 B&Fs including 4 in a row 1937-40 while his first in 1932 was won after playing just 10 games (due to that famous knee injury) where he dominated collected 4 BOGs in the Brownlow.
* he was picked to play for Victoria after just 12 senior games.
* he was twice club leading goalkicker 1947-48.
* captained the club for 9 years and coached for 12 including the 1943 flag and runners-up in 1942 and 1944.
* He ended up playing in 7 GFs for two premierships and missed out on a 3rd due to that knee injury. Dyer was also best for Richmond with 30 disposals in the 1933 GF defeat.
* The drop punt is often attributed to having been invented by Dyer.
* His influence stretched to off-field issues at Richmond as well. The last public one standing up before the faithful at the SOS rally at the 'G in 1990.
His profile as a Richmond man lived on in the media working for 3KZ on match days, Ch 7's World of Sport on Sunday mornings and writing for the Truth. He gave the Club a voice in the media. His mangaling of the English language and metaphors were the stuff of legends ;D:
"Bartlett's older than he's ever been before."
"Bamblett made a great debut last week, and an even better one today."
"Mark Lee's long arms reaching up like giant testicles."
"All young footballers want to do is sit around and smoke marinara"
"Essendon supporters are Collingwood supporters who can read and write"
"I hate Collingwood so much I don't watch B&W TV".
Dyer did a fair bit in his life Ox ;)
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Right-the media made him a legend,
* The drop punt is often attributed to having been invented by Dyer.
Well FFS- Lets make him prime minister !! -)..
* His influence stretched to off-field issues at Richmond as well. The last public one standing up before the faithful at the SOS rally at the 'G in 1990.
- A lovely guy Im sure,however.......what do we owe him?
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apart from a 35% losing ratio
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You're a smart guy, while I get your point have no idea why you'd bother with it.
A famous spinner once wanted to make similar point about an even more famous batsmen but held off because he realised the futility in easing one onto a monument.
boredom and bipolar
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they should rename Melbourne .....Dyerville
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so he owns the club?
Best and fairest=JD Medal.
Captain - JD Number
Coterie = 17 members
Where is the room for new growth?
stuff it - why don't we just call ourselves "The Jack Dyers" ?
Ox, you forgot the Jack Dyer stand and the mascot 'Tiger Jack Dyer Stripes' ;D
Seriously though the only other Richmond personality who got close to the aura that Dyer had was KB but that went out of the window when he cracked the sads after being sacked as coach and went into self-imposed exile for 16 years. Dyer was Richmond - he lived there, had a shop there, played there, coached there. He's our only "home-grown" Tiger who has played in and coached a Richmond premiership, won B&Fs. His 310 games (corrected to 312) was at the time of his retirement a record and seen as an amazing achievement which made him a legend of the game not just a legend of the RFC. He also played during the Great Depression and WWII where Football was one of the few forms entertainment that the average person could afford to go to. Is there an argument to say the Club has gone a bit overboard with the Dyer tributes - possibly - but he's hard to top.
Where's the new growth? Well it could have been Richo but he missed out playing in crap sides. If we now put a decent team together that can win a flag or two then his name will be Trent Cotchin! :yep
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apart from a 35% losing ratio
That stat is more an indictment on the Club over the past decade or three rather than on the man himself.
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yes but i meant it more as,this is how we repay the no 17
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so he owns the club?
Best and fairest=JD Medal.
Captain - JD Number
Coterie = 17 members
Where is the room for new growth?
stuff it - why don't we just call ourselves "The Jack Dyers" ?
Ox, you forgot the Jack Dyer stand and the mascot 'Tiger Jack Dyer Stripes' ;D
Seriously though the only other Richmond personality who got close to the aura that Dyer had was KB but that went out of the window when he cracked the sads after being sacked as coach and went into self-imposed exile for 16 years. Dyer was Richmond - he lived there, had a shop there, played there, coached there. He's our only "home-grown" Tiger who has played in and coached a Richmond premiership, won B&Fs. His 310 games (corrected to 312) was at the time of his retirement a record and seen as an amazing achievement which made him a legend of the game not just a legend of the RFC. He also played during the Great Depression and WWII where Football was one of the few forms entertainment that the average person could afford to go to. Is there an argument to say the Club has gone a bit overboard with the Dyer tributes - possibly - but he's hard to top.
Where's the new growth? Well it could have been Richo but he missed out playing in crap sides. If we now put a decent team together that can win a flag or two then his name will be Trent Cotchin! :yep
The great depression?
The tradition continues
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Jack was a great clubman but it is time to stop the no17 folly.
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Pretty sure that if we end up having a successful period, it will be due to our recognition of the great Jack Dyer
In fact we might want to call it the Jack Dyer-era
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Pretty sure that if we end up having a successful period, it will be due to our recognition of the great Jack Dyer
In fact we might want to call it the Jack Dyer-era
and if we dont,it will have nothing to do with him....how does that work??
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yes but i meant it more as,this is how we repay the no 17
Well then as Y&B said a successful period with regular finals appearances will repay, respect and acknowledge the No. 17 as it should be acknowledged. To date we as a club have done sweet all repaying it.
Btw as I said in the other thread while I'm usually in favour of the captain wearing #17, I'm actually in favour of Cotch keeping his #9 guernsey if he becomes captain because he's a stuff and a one off.
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Pretty sure that if we end up having a successful period, it will be due to our recognition of the great Jack Dyer
In fact we might want to call it the Jack Dyer-era
and if we dont,it will have nothing to do with him....how does that work??
Success has many friends; failure has none.
Growing up we all heard about the past champions from the 1920s,30s and 40s and then the golden era from 1967-80. Very little was said about the 20 year period in-between where we didn't play finals at all. Probably another reason Dyer is held so fondly by the Club and his legend passed down. Post his footy career we were crap for the next 20 years (until KB, Hart, Bourke and co. all showed up) so a successful Richmond would've been associated with him for those two decades.