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Title: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 07, 2005, 01:43:24 PM
Recent revelations by Browny in my view now mean that the club is entitled to trade the player at the end of the season. And lets not let emotion get in the way. Brown in 27-28 years old, he wont be around in 5 years and he probably wont be in Richmonds next premiership side. I would trade him at seasons end, both Collingwood and Essendon will want him and they will have an early pick which will probably see us having 2 top 10 picks again. It would also help us create major space in the salary cap to accomodate our younger players development and wage demands, coupled with the trading or retirements of Gaspar and the Retirement of Campbell next year, along with Stafford, Richardson and Kellaway over the next 2 or 3 years we will be able to be really agressive in getting the players we need to be a powerful force again in the league. So for me, Brown is expendable and he should be traded....there are to many good reasons not to!

Ramps
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: the_boy_jake on May 07, 2005, 03:43:20 PM
Ramps I have great respect for your opinions, but, er, maybe not.

"Browny is the best full-forward in the game by a considerable margin" - Gerard Healy after Browny kicked his fourth.

The caffeine issue is being overblown IMO, but in retrospect Wallace may have made a very sound decision by denying Browny the captaincy.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Ox on May 07, 2005, 04:07:20 PM
 :sleep
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 07, 2005, 07:17:52 PM
we'd be stupid not to trade him if someone coughed up a top 10 pick and another inside the first round. Remember he is 27-28 yo...not getting any younger. Clubs dont have balls to trade big names and thats why they never succeed. In 2 years time if he is playing crap you guys will be saying we should have traded him 2 years ago when he was firing....sadly by then it would be 2 late!
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: 2JD on May 07, 2005, 08:07:14 PM
 ???I'm astounded!!! If we can get two good years out of him on our way up the ladder, then he's well worth keeping, I see him as more of a plus atm
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: julzqld on May 07, 2005, 09:46:17 PM
 :o :o :o :gobdrop ::) ::) ::) :help :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: mightytiges on May 07, 2005, 10:26:26 PM
It would also help us create major space in the salary cap to accomodate our younger players development and wage demands, coupled with the trading or retirements of Gaspar and the Retirement of Campbell next year, along with Stafford, Richardson and Kellaway over the next 2 or 3 years we will be able to be really agressive in getting the players we need to be a powerful force again in the league.

Problem there is we are already close to the minimum TPP you can have. If we let Browny go on top of Cambo who's retiring then we'll have to either pay our current crop more (ah no) or chase after another big name and pay $$$.

Understand where you're coming from RT but disagree in Browny's case. Browny is our best player, an A-grader, a matchwinner and an example of the skill our young blokes need to aspire to. We'd be better off trading an over-valued B-grader who had a top year IMO. Add to that smart recruiting with our draft picks.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 08, 2005, 01:22:35 PM
just trying to stir up some debate guys thats all.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Ox on May 08, 2005, 01:55:30 PM
just trying to stir up some debate guys thats all.

LMAO Ramps -good effort.

What MT said.

Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Rodgerramjet on May 08, 2005, 02:59:55 PM
Ramps, stay off the caffiene mate ;D
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: om21 on May 08, 2005, 09:52:55 PM
*om21 raises bat*

*safely into the keepers mits*
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: bg25 on May 09, 2005, 09:00:23 AM
Uh......NO.

Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 09, 2005, 09:28:00 AM
this is the most ridiculous poost i have ever read.
nathan brown is teh next gary ablett in waiting, we have seen already this year up fwd he is a a stuff! skills on both sides and a smart player!

he must finish his career with us and we would be crazy to trade him!
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Ox on May 09, 2005, 10:22:10 AM


he must finish his career with us and we would be crazy to trade him!

He must !
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 09, 2005, 10:45:50 AM
Everyones in love with Browny now lol...in 2 years time when hes 30 going on 31 lets hope you all feel the same way! :scream
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Ox on May 09, 2005, 10:57:34 AM
What's so wrong about having the new kids i.e. Tambling,Deledio,Meyer, etc, having Nathan Brown to model
themselves on ???? :scream

If he plays 4 more years, I'd say it was a plus for us not only from a playing stance but also from the inspiration he gives
the whole joint.
Besides,Richo needs him.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Piping Shrike on May 09, 2005, 11:00:38 AM
Everyones in love with Browny now lol...in 2 years time when hes 30 going on 31 lets hope you all feel the same way! :scream

What's wrong with being 30? Have you been watching Logan's Run?
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 09, 2005, 03:11:57 PM
Im 34 ...nothing wrong with being in your 30s actually its pretty good...but i have a view that Richmond needs to find a way of getting 2 picks in the first round including 1 top 10 pick. Any of you guys have a clue about how we can manufacture such a scenario? :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: bg25 on May 09, 2005, 03:26:54 PM
Everyones in love with Browny now lol...in 2 years time when hes 30 going on 31 lets hope you all feel the same way! :scream

In two years time he'll have just turned 29. Turned 27 in February. Plenty of quality years left in him.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 09, 2005, 04:14:36 PM
Everyones in love with Browny now lol...in 2 years time when hes 30 going on 31 lets hope you all feel the same way! :scream
last year was his 1st yr at our club! hif he didnt play most of teh second half of teh year with a calf injury he would have won the jack dyer medal by a mile!!!  thanx danny 4 playing injured players.not

this is his second yr, he is 27, these nect 3-4 yrs will be his prime years, he is in gr8 shape and a class act and u think 2 young top 10 draft pics will help us!!!! come on!!!!!!! get ur head str8! nathan brown is an all aussie!!!! draft pics wont help us unless we have players like brown around them!

who will be a better player cooney or deledio!! deledio will not just because he is a betetr talent but because he hase better ppl around him also!!!!

what is it with u, he is leading our goal kicking and is teh best fwd/onballer going around!!!!!!

wanna trade someone 4 draft pics , trade tiv
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: mightytiges on May 09, 2005, 04:40:49 PM
Im 34 ...nothing wrong with being in your 30s actually its pretty good...but i have a view that Richmond needs to find a way of getting 2 picks in the first round including 1 top 10 pick. Any of you guys have a clue about how we can manufacture such a scenario? :thumbsup

Going on last year it'll be nigh on impossible to get a top 10 pick unless we finish down the bottom of the ladder ourselves. The way this year is going there could be 3-4 teams who end up with priority picks  :P (the AFL should ban them immediately lol). So our first pick will end up being around the mid-teen mark. Last year no side with a top 9 pick traded their first round picks away for a player. The Roos used pick 10 to get Thomson, Freo pick 11 for Carr and the Pies bizarrely swapped picks 7 and 10 with the Hawks so at best we would be trading for another teen pick if we went down that path. You don't trade a A-grade player for that. As X alluded to if you want ot trade someone trade a easily replaced B-grade flanker who had an exceptional year and so will be overvalued by other clubs. 

Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: mightytiges on May 15, 2005, 07:41:18 PM
5 goal match winning last quarter :rollin



Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: om21 on May 15, 2005, 09:11:33 PM
Today's performance showed why we should trade him........

ax re Ramps pou exeis to mualo sou;
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 15, 2005, 09:14:52 PM
2 top 10s for sure....
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: om21 on May 15, 2005, 09:18:09 PM
2 top 10s for sure....

Just like Otto.....

Let it go re. We need players like this around the club. He is a touch of class. We will benefit short-term with his playing prowess and long-term from his tutelage to our kids....
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 17, 2005, 06:50:50 AM
n brown is taying
richmond loves him
richmond needs him
richo loves him
richo needs him
terry loves him

nathan will finish his career with us and thats final

subject closed
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: the_boy_jake on May 21, 2005, 10:02:43 PM
Sorry ramps but LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

With the game on the line Johnson missed from 40.

With the game on the line Browny pulled something out of the hat for the second week running. The most evidently inspirational leader we have.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: mightytiges on May 21, 2005, 10:48:27 PM
Browny missed a couple that were at the limit of his range in the first 3 quarters and that could have given us the lead (as did Simmonds, Johnson and a number of others) but he nailed the 2 snaps at goal that got us across the line in the last.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: julzqld on May 22, 2005, 08:37:09 AM
We couldn't kick a set shot last night if our life depended on it.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 22, 2005, 12:07:37 PM
i wobder if it was windy and swirly there as even krak had trouble kicking, in teh end we won and the polish was from simonds, his last quarter was hard at the ball , kicked a team lifting goal and by nathan brown! next person who says we should trade him i will shoot him!!
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 22, 2005, 03:36:44 PM
gotta be worth 2 top 10s  :rollin
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2005, 09:10:50 PM
i wobder if it was windy and swirly there as even krak had trouble kicking, in teh end we won and the polish was from simonds, his last quarter was hard at the ball , kicked a team lifting goal and by nathan brown! next person who says we should trade him i will shoot him!!

No it was windy X - lovely still night but the ground was very very slippery (duey) we walked across the ground after the game and were amazed at how slippery it was.

I noticed when Krak sprayed it out ont he full in the last and thought I was going to get hit in the head with the ball  :o that the ball looked like it had alot of moisture on it - may explain some of the shcoking kicking for goal :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 23, 2005, 06:38:28 AM
i wobder if it was windy and swirly there as even krak had trouble kicking, in teh end we won and the polish was from simonds, his last quarter was hard at the ball , kicked a team lifting goal and by nathan brown! next person who says we should trade him i will shoot him!!

No it was windy X - lovely still night but the ground was very very slippery (duey) we walked across the ground after the game and were amazed at how slippery it was.

I noticed when Krak sprayed it out ont he full in the last and thought I was going to get hit in the head with the ball  :o that the ball looked like it had alot of moisture on it - may explain some of the shcoking kicking for goal :thumbsup

thanx champ, and rampt, u r a fool!
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: julzqld on May 23, 2005, 07:47:35 AM
It wasn't windy or swirly but someone near me said the ground was pretty heavy with moisture.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: PuntRdRoar on May 23, 2005, 10:05:47 AM
pmsl  ;D :cheers :scream
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Bulluss on May 23, 2005, 10:36:33 AM
Quote
It wasn't windy or swirly but someone near me said the ground was pretty heavy with moisture.


That was probably from you Julz, drooling everytime that Richo ran past!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Ramps on September 11, 2008, 11:55:47 AM
3 years on - this topic that I started - has to come under serious consideration. And by the way, I just read through this whole thread again and I realised why OER is a great forum, some classic OER posts in this thread- we do good comedy in this joint from time to time and sometimes we are on the money to  ;).  :clapping  :lol
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: mightytiges on September 11, 2008, 07:54:03 PM
3 years on - this topic that I started - has to come under serious consideration. And by the way, I just read through this whole thread again and I realised why OER is a great forum, some classic OER posts in this thread- we do good comedy in this joint from time to time and sometimes we are on the money to  ;).  :clapping  :lol

You won't get 2 top 10 picks now Ramps lol. I'd doubt you'd even get one for browny. Probably a late first rounder or high second rounder for a 30-year old small forward (think Aker to the Dogs). That broken leg robbed Browny of his best years but he's still very good. He'll play out his days at Punt Rd. In his mind he reckons he still has 3-4 years to offer.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: Ramps on September 11, 2008, 08:16:03 PM
3 years on - this topic that I started - has to come under serious consideration. And by the way, I just read through this whole thread again and I realised why OER is a great forum, some classic OER posts in this thread- we do good comedy in this joint from time to time and sometimes we are on the money to  ;).  :clapping  :lol

You won't get 2 top 10 picks now Ramps lol. I'd doubt you'd even get one for browny. Probably a late first rounder or high second rounder for a 30-year old small forward (think Aker to the Dogs). That broken leg robbed Browny of his best years but he's still very good. He'll play out his days at Punt Rd. In his mind he reckons he still has 3-4 years to offer.

I wasnt referring to what wed specifically receive, 3 years ago we would have been in amuch better position, today ... I dont know what wed get, maybe nothing maybe a pick between 15 and 20 who knows, the 2 top 10s I think was fair 3 years ago...unfortunately thats not relevant today.
Title: Re: Tigers should trade Nathan Brown
Post by: mightytiges on September 11, 2008, 09:19:11 PM
3 years on - this topic that I started - has to come under serious consideration. And by the way, I just read through this whole thread again and I realised why OER is a great forum, some classic OER posts in this thread- we do good comedy in this joint from time to time and sometimes we are on the money to  ;).  :clapping  :lol

You won't get 2 top 10 picks now Ramps lol. I'd doubt you'd even get one for browny. Probably a late first rounder or high second rounder for a 30-year old small forward (think Aker to the Dogs). That broken leg robbed Browny of his best years but he's still very good. He'll play out his days at Punt Rd. In his mind he reckons he still has 3-4 years to offer.

I wasnt referring to what wed specifically receive, 3 years ago we would have been in amuch better position, today ... I dont know what wed get, maybe nothing maybe a pick between 15 and 20 who knows, the 2 top 10s I think was fair 3 years ago...unfortunately thats not relevant today.
Yep Ramps when you posted it back then Browny was probably in the top 5 players in the comp on form. The thing is even back then we wouldn't have got a trade done once his leg snapped.