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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Stripes on October 11, 2012, 11:31:03 AM
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We now have two ready made players to insert straight into the team plus potentially more. The coaches would have lock in players for certain positions and be figuring out who plays where and what is our best 22. I think it would be interesting to get peoples opinions on firstly who should be in the each area of the ground and also their rank of importance to that area.
For mine -
Tall Backs 1. Rance, 2. Chaplin, 3. Grimes
Small Backs 1. Newman, 2. Morris, 3. Houli,
Ruck 1. Maric
Inside Mids 1. Cotch, 2. Tuck, 3. Foley, 4. Jackson
Outside Mids 1. Lids, 2. Grigg, 3. Martin, 4. Conca, 5. Ellis
Small Forwards 1. Knights, 2. King, 3. Edwards
Tall Forwards 1. Jack, 2. Vickery, 3. Griffiths :pray
On the Cusp - Batchelor, plus any other additions via trade or draft
So does my order differ to yours? :huh
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Knights isn't a small forward and why should he walk straight into our team? Needs to perform in pre-season. Can't believe you have him higher than Edwards & Nahas either. At least they have been playing regular footy in the seniors.
I don't agree with your rating of King. Nahas & Edwards are better simply because they get a kick most weeks.
Chris Newman is our best small defender? Bloke doesn't have an opponent half the time. I'd take Batchelor over him any day...not that Batch is small but he can play a role on a small forward. Grimes is better than Rance & especially Chaplin.
edit: Both Lids and Martin can play inside and outside, so there's no need for big Dan Jackson. ;D
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I'm very similar to Stripes. Depending on who else comes in, in my opinion I see Batchelor, Nahas and even Ellis right on the cusp. The new blokes we specifically targeted will go straight in as long as they meet par and are fit. The merits can be debated till the cows come home but it's going to happen. Three forward talls didn't work this year which might keep Nahas in 'my' side, but who knows what the go will be next year.
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The merits can be debated till the cows come home but it's going to happen
Yes bit like Daniel Jackson.
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He's 2nd on Stripes list of small defenders. Although I thought he was our best defender this year ;D
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The merits can be debated till the cows come home but it's going to happen
Yes bit like Daniel Jackson.
Spot on. I wouldn't put him in my 22, but the coaches like him for some otherworldly reason.
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I think Morris is a better small defender now than Newman but their roles are very different. Morris is a great shut down defender who has leg speed while Newman is more highly rated because of his foot skills and, in particular, leadership.
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I think Morris is a better small defender now than Newman but their roles are very different. Morris is a great shut down defender who has leg speed while Newman is more highly rated because of his foot skills and, in particular, leadership.
Newman must have leg speed as he was our rep in the GF sprint. The way he gave 100% right to the finish line was astounding. ;D
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Chaplin. Grimes. Morris.
Houli. Rance. Batchelor.
Grigg. Martin. Conca.
Knights. Griffiths. Edwards.
Deledio. Riewoldt. Vickery.
Maric. Cotchin. Foley.
Tuck. Newman. Ellis. Nahas/King.
'on the cusp' - O'Hanlon. Dea. Helbig.... *sigh* Jackson.
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We now have two ready made players to insert straight into the team plus potentially more. The coaches would have lock in players for certain positions and be figuring out who plays where and what is our best 22. I think it would be interesting to get peoples opinions on firstly who should be in the each area of the ground and also their rank of importance to that area.
For mine -
Tall Backs 1. Rance, 2. Chaplin, 3. Grimes
Small Backs 1. Newman, 2. Morris, 3. Houli,
Ruck 1. Maric
Inside Mids 1. Cotch, 2. Tuck, 3. Foley, 4. Jackson
Outside Mids 1. Lids, 2. Grigg, 3. Martin, 4. Conca, 5. Ellis
Small Forwards 1. Knights, 2. King, 3. Edwards
Tall Forwards 1. Jack, 2. Vickery, 3. Griffiths :pray
On the Cusp - Batchelor, plus any other additions via trade or draft
So does my order differ to yours? :huh
No Nahas ...
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Don't think Knights is guaranteed to come straight in but replace Knights with pick 9 and then woah look out :shh
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We now have two ready made players to insert straight into the team plus potentially more. The coaches would have lock in players for certain positions and be figuring out who plays where and what is our best 22. I think it would be interesting to get peoples opinions on firstly who should be in the each area of the ground and also their rank of importance to that area.
For mine -
Tall Backs 1. Rance, 2. Chaplin, 3. Grimes
Small Backs 1. Newman, 2. Morris, 3. Houli,
Ruck 1. Maric
Inside Mids 1. Cotch, 2. Tuck, 3. Foley, 4. Jackson
Outside Mids 1. Lids, 2. Grigg, 3. Martin, 4. Conca, 5. Ellis
Small Forwards 1. Knights, 2. King, 3. Edwards
Tall Forwards 1. Jack, 2. Vickery, 3. Griffiths :pray
On the Cusp - Batchelor, plus any other additions via trade or draft
So does my order differ to yours? :huh
Not sure about Ellis to be honest. From a long term view point I'd say yes but short term not so sure. Depending on who we take in this year's draft with pick 9 I wouldn't be surprised if they go ahead of Ellis
Also think there maybe some question marks over Newman as well. I don't think he had a great 2012 and at times he looked really slow so I wonder if someone like Batchelor moves ahead of him. IMV he does
Also it's pleasing to know we still haven't seen what Arnott brings to the table; ditto Elton as well
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Chaplin. Grimes. Morris.
Houli. Rance. Batchelor.
Grigg. Martin. Conca.
Knights. Griffiths. Edwards.
Deledio. Riewoldt. Vickery.
Maric. Cotchin. Foley.
Tuck. Newman. Ellis. Nahas/King.
'on the cusp' - O'Hanlon. Dea. Helbig.... *sigh* Jackson.
Im starting to sense some real depth whoa i mean whoaa!! :shh
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I can see some depth staring to appear. :thumbsup
I can understand the comments about Newman and agree with them.
However I believe that Newy can play a role in the fwd line and pinch hit there with effect and thus letting Batch carve his own niche in the backline.
Newy off a HFF can be dangerous. He is good with disposal and is a fairly accurate kick for goal.
I reckon he could do some real damage there. :gotigers
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ive done a fair few tams similar to this
b/ morris - chaplin - grimes. imo that is a lock in line.
hb/ batchelor - rance - ellis/dea/conca/newman. its likely to be newman but im hoping dea can take a step. some will have houli here.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio. sort of picks itself.
r/ maric - cotchin - foley.
hf/ edwards - griffiths - martin. prefer riewoldt at chf but most on here dont. martin will rotate thru here until his motor is big enough.edwards is our best performed sml forward from this yr.
f/ vickery - riewoldt - knights. vickery gets first crack as the back up ruckman/for. like morris we got knights for a reason. his ability to rotate thru the midfield puts him a mile in front of others.
int/ newman - ellis - conca - houli. for the life of me i cant see conca or ellis not playing they will continue to put games into them regardless.
emg/ pick 9 - helbig - arnot - o hanlon - mature recruits from state leaugues. im hoping pick 9 can play straight away if we take a kid like dean towers he may be ready to go straight away as well.
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Chaplin. Grimes. Morris.
Houli. Rance. Batchelor.
Grigg. Martin. Conca.
Knights. Griffiths. Edwards.
Deledio. Riewoldt. Vickery.
Maric. Cotchin. Foley.
Tuck. Newman. Ellis. Nahas/King.
'on the cusp' - O'Hanlon. Dea. Helbig.... *sigh* Jackson.
Where is the Broadbeach Bullet
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/ edwards - griffiths - martin. prefer riewoldt at chf but most on here dont. martin will rotate thru here until his motor is big enough.edwards is our best performed sml forward from this yr.
f/ vickery - riewoldt - knights. vickery gets first crack as the back up ruckman/for. like morris we got knights for a reason. his ability to rotate thru the midfield puts him a mile in front of others.
so do I. Think he is best playing out a bit, maybe in that Wayne Carey/Barry Hall position as a closer to goal CHF. At FF he too often gets caught up wrestling or double/triple teamed or forced deep into the pockets on leads. At CHF he has more space and can turn opponents inside out with his footy smarts.
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Jack can't turn anyone inside apart from donkey's like Carlile. Just doesn't have the pace or work rate to be a good CHF. JR is at his best when's making multiple leads deep in the forward line. When he works hard and leads up the corridor he is a fantastic player. When he is lazy and rarely leads he is still a more than capable player but hardly the bloke to kick it to 8 times out of 10 when going forward. We need Vickery back in form.
But hey, maybe we have a spud forward coach who tells Riewoldt only to lead wide. Who knows.
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Where is the Broadbeach Bullet
His pencil is blunt and no longer sharpened.