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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 01, 2012, 04:44:54 AM
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Okay we've had almost 24 hours for the 2012 draw to sink in. So how many games do you think we will win next year?
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Next year we have 7 games against teams that finished below us on the ladder, 10 against 6-11 and remaining against top
6. We need to win the 7, split the 10against 6-12 and cause an upset or 2 agai st top 6
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How long is a piece of string ;D
Looked at it and though we can win 15-16 games, got up this morning and though 12-14 will do me
First 3 rounds are crucial, we ge toff to a flyer 3-0 and I reckon we are away ;D
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1 Thursday, March 28 Carlton MCG Away 7.40pm (LOSS)
2 Friday, April 5 St Kilda MCG Away 7.50pm (WIN)
3 Sunday, April 14 Western Bulldogs Etihad Stadium Home 1.10pm (WIN - smash em)
4 Saturday, April 20 Collingwood MCG Home 2.10pm (LOSS)
5 Friday, April 26 Fremantle Patersons Stadium Away 6.40pm (LOSS)
6 Saturday, May 4 Geelong Cats MCG Home 7.40pm (LOSS but could jag it)
7 Saturday, May 11 Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 1.15pm (WIN - smash em)
8 Sunday, May 19 Melbourne MCG Home 3.15pm (WIN - smash em)
9 Saturday, May 25 Essendon MCG Home 7.45pm (WIN - critical)
10 Monday, June 3 West Coast Eagles Patersons Stadium Away 5.40pm (LOSS)
11 Bye
12 Saturday, June 15 Adelaide Crows MCG Home 1.40pm (WIN - critical)
13 Saturday, June 22 Western Bulldogs Etihad Stadium Away 7.40pm (WIN - smash em)
14 Sunday, June 30 St Kilda MCG Home 4.40pm (WIN)
15 Saturday, July 6 North Melbourne Etihad Stadium Away 2.10pm (WIN - critical)
16 Saturday, July 13 Gold Coast SUNS Cazalys Stadium Home 4.40pm (WIN :pray )
17 Sunday, July 21 Fremantle MCG Home 1.10pm (WIN - critical)
18 Sunday, July 28 Sydney Swans SCG Away 4.40pm (LOSS)
19 Saturday, August 3 Hawthorn MCG Away 2.10pm (LOSS)
20 Saturday, August 10 Brisbane Lions MCG Home 1.45pm (WIN - smash em)
21 Saturday, August 17 Carlton MCG Home 1.45pm (LOSS)
22 Sunday, August 25 GWS GIANTS Skoda Stadium Away 3.15pm (WIN - smash em)
23 TBC Essendon MCG Away TBC (LOSS)
13 Wins, 9 Losses
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Pretty much agree with WP. Could easily win 15-16 but just get the 12-14 wins and make the 8. :pray
First 3 games give us a huge opportunity to firstly set up our season but also get some clubs vying for a spot in the 8, playing catch up to us. (Carlton/Saints) If we can get to 3-0 then confidence is up and all of a sudden the next 3 games don't look so imposing.
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13-14 is challenging but not impossible.
Based on our acquisitions in Free Trade and any ready made players from the draft later this month to push out some cloggers we could cause some damage and maybe even finish as high as 6th.
This year is the year Dimma and the list will be critiqued rigorously. Time to make finals and turn those fade outs into four or five goal wins and get the mental edge to win the close ones.
The draw is not overbearing lay difficult. Time to deliver Tigers.
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we could win 16 / 17 games but we wont because we will eff up easy games as we always do
14 we we will but if we can stop losing games we should win we could win as many as 17
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16 wins next year.
Bookmark it and bump it when it happens.
I'm Nostradamus.
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I'm optimistic that we could even finish in the top 4 though if we scrape into the 8 I will be extremely happy. All comes down to injuries and with a better early draw we can set up our season. When the injuries inevitably hit mid-year, as they typically do, we will be better placed to ride them out without losing games against weaker opponents due to having to field our 2nds team. Our new recruits will strengthen up our over team strength and depth plus the inclusion of a fit Vickery and Foley will make a huge difference.
What will handicap us severely is, as MT also said, Maric going down. We just can't cover him. Anyone of our other linchpins - Cotch, Lids, Jack, Rance - can be covered to a degree but the difference between the Mullet's and his cover is far too steep to not impact us terribly.
14 wins :thumbsup
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15 wins.
Someone pencilled in a loss against hawthorn. We smashed them this year 8)
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Top 6 for mine.
Get on board.
Time for the Tiger to swing the tail around!
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25 wins.
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25 wins.
Yeeessssss :clapping :clapping
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Well well it's absolutely certain we will go undefeated and win the premiership cup now that the great Aaron "lockup" Edwards in in our forward line and is a Monty to kick 30-40 goals in a forward pocket. Will go down as the trade of the year!
.... On a serious note....
JUST BEAT CARLSCUM ROUND 1!!!!!!!!
Then I'll assess the year ahead.
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15 for me which will probably land us 5th ( the new 9th :( )
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14 wins 8 losses
Will get off to a flyer and win the first 4 then get beaten by freo in WA. Will win the next three after that then loose the following three after that. At 11 rounds we will be 7wins and 4 losses. second half of the season will pretty much be the same, 7 wins 4 losses. will win the last 4 games on the trot.
hope that i am being conservative :thumbsup
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i see 9 losses. 3 definate wins and 10 50/50 games. even if we win every 50/50 game it will be a struggle or borderline to make the 8.
while we should improve so will most other sides. depth and injuries again being the weakness.
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i see 9 losses. 3 definate wins and 10 50/50 games. even if we win every 50/50 game it will be a struggle or borderline to make the 8.
while we should improve so will most other sides. depth and injuries again being the weakness.
Will we play finals?
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i see 9 losses. 3 definate wins and 10 50/50 games. even if we win every 50/50 game it will be a struggle or borderline to make the 8.
while we should improve so will most other sides. depth and injuries again being the weakness.
Will we play finals?
who knows its a possibility more so next yr than this yr because of things like more games into young players young players with another pre season behind them but theres still a lot of things that havent changed that need to.
personally i think not. it has little to do with the draw. though again i think we got a kind draw playing last yrs top 6 only once. and 8th placed north only once.
for me its again all down to depth, experience, games played and quality. also theres too many question marks over too many of the players. i can see the whole season being derailed on the back of two or 3 injuries again. imo we have had a dream run with injuries the last 3 seasons in the greater scheme of things.the few injuries we have copped has quickly shown up our lack of depth and quality with an enormous workload on too few.
i think we are prety decent and promising to about 16 18 on the list but it falls away too much from there.
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i see 9 losses. 3 definate wins and 10 50/50 games. even if we win every 50/50 game it will be a struggle or borderline to make the 8.
while we should improve so will most other sides. depth and injuries again being the weakness.
Will we play finals?
who knows its a possibility more so next yr than this yr because of things like more games into young players young players with another pre season behind them but theres still a lot of things that havent changed that need to.
personally i think not. it has little to do with the draw. though again i think we got a kind draw playing last yrs top 6 only once. and 8th placed north only once.
for me its again all down to depth, experience, games played and quality. also theres too many question marks over too many of the players. i can see the whole season being derailed on the back of two or 3 injuries again. imo we have had a dream run with injuries the last 3 seasons in the greater scheme of things.the few injuries we have copped has quickly shown up our lack of depth and quality with an enormous workload on too few.
i think we are prety decent and promising to about 16 18 on the list but it falls away too much from there.
So Dimma will be sacked?
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Using wayne's colour-coded system :thumbsup
1. Carlton @ MCG (A) P
2. St Kilda @ MCG (A) W
3. Bulldogs @ Etihad (H) W
4. Collingwood @ MCG (H) P
5. Fremantle @ Subi (A) L
6. Geelong @ MCG (H) P
7. Port @ AAMI (A) W
8. Melbourne @ MCG (H) W
9. Essendon @ MCG (H) P
10. West Coast @ Subi (A) L
11. Bye
12. Adelaide @ MCG (H) W
13. Bulldogs @ Etihad (A) W
14. St Kilda @ MCG (A) W
15. North @ Etihad (H) P
16. Gold Coast @ Cairns (H) W ...... don't deserve to play finals if we lose this one again
17. Fremantle @ MCG (H) W
18. Sydney @ SCG (A) L
19. Hawthorn @ MCG (A) P
20. Brisbane @ MCG (H) W
21. Carlton @ MCG (H) P
22. GWS @ Skoda (A) W
23. Essendon @ MCG (A) P
So that's
11 W (Wins)
8 P (Possibles)
3 L (Losses)
So the 8 'possibles' will determine if we play finals:
Win 2-3 and we're in;
Win say 5 of them and then top 4 is possible;
Lose most and drop a couple of the 'wins' and it'll be a repeat of 2012.
For mine 14 wins would be realistically possible next year barring massive injuries (such as losing a Maric and/or Cotch). Our depth is improving but there's still a couple of holes in our list that make us vunerable if we are unlucky.
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while we should improve so will most other sides.
No, that's impossible. Yin and Yang. For every action there is a reaction. If a team improves then another team must get worse. 18 teams, 18 positions. So our challenge is to make sure we improve because the net effect will mean an increased chance of playing finals. Simple maths, in theory if not application.
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Is Wayne a librarian coz his system screams Dewey decimal....
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i see 9 losses. 3 definate wins and 10 50/50 games. even if we win every 50/50 game it will be a struggle or borderline to make the 8.
while we should improve so will most other sides. depth and injuries again being the weakness.
Will we play finals?
who knows its a possibility more so next yr than this yr because of things like more games into young players young players with another pre season behind them but theres still a lot of things that havent changed that need to.
personally i think not. it has little to do with the draw. though again i think we got a kind draw playing last yrs top 6 only once. and 8th placed north only once.
for me its again all down to depth, experience, games played and quality. also theres too many question marks over too many of the players. i can see the whole season being derailed on the back of two or 3 injuries again. imo we have had a dream run with injuries the last 3 seasons in the greater scheme of things.the few injuries we have copped has quickly shown up our lack of depth and quality with an enormous workload on too few.
i think we are prety decent and promising to about 16 18 on the list but it falls away too much from there.
So Dimma will be sacked?
i wouldnt think so. not if the improvement continues. too many important list indicators say it will be touch and go. i reckon we improved enormously this yr but didnt make finals. again iwill say i dont think key indicators like games played over all age depth quality and structure says to me we probably wont make finals.
we all know it takes time to get players up to 100 games around 6 plus yrs and thats the ones that pretty well ready to go from day dot.we lack enough 100 gamers. we lack players in critical age brackets we lock over all depth and structure but these things will improve again.
its just my opinion based on the list and its make up i havent changed my opinion it was always going to take 4 or 5 yrs to make finals useing primarily a youth policy which is what we have done.
we are now in the position to speed up the process by taking more mature players i have to say im still disappointed with this side of things.
come the end of the rookie draft we will have about 25 plus players aged 22 and under we cnan afford to balance it out withmature players who can perform a role and lead.
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End result...FINALS...N.......... :thumbsup
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Is Wayne a librarian coz his system screams Dewey decimal....
:lol