One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 05, 2012, 02:42:31 AM
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This year's biggest improvers were arguably big Ivan and Grigg. Who do you think will step up in 2013 and be our biggest improver?
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Nahas 8)
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Darrou
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Ellis or Conca, if Ellis can get his kicking going?
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Aaron Edwards... So far he has given us nothing hahaha
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Hopefully Vickery, Chaplin and Griffiths. Those boys turn it on and we are playing finals. :gotigers
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Knights
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Shed!
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Conca, and hopefully one of Griffiths or Astbury, but both would be even better.
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Razzle Berry
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I am hoping Batchelor
Didn't see as much improvement as I was hoping for in 2012
Also want to see Arnott in the AFL team and see what he offers :thumbsup
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Does anyone else suspect that the fitness stafff at Oakleigh Charges have got a fair bit to answer for regarding Arnott? Just speculating here, but he looked far too big, particularly through the legs, to attain anywhere near the endurance required for AFL. Apparently he was a gym junky in the juniors. I worry that he went down the wrong path during his TAC years. Maybe he needed to be massive to stand out enough to get drafted. Not sure, but I think it's put him on the back foot in the big league.
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Does anyone else suspect that the fitness stafff at Oakleigh Charges have got a fair bit to answer for regarding Arnott? Just speculating here, but he looked far too big, particularly through the legs, to attain anywhere near the endurance required for AFL. Apparently he was a gym junky in the juniors. I worry that he went down the wrong path during his TAC years. Maybe he needed to be massive to stand out enough to get drafted. Not sure, but I think it's put him on the back foot in the big league.
That's alright, will go well then when he builds up his fitness.
Anyone seen him play for Coburg?
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My concern is that the damage will be long term.
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Clearly want Vickery to improve after his shoulder stuffed up his year this season.
Dusty to prove his baggers wrong.
As for the younger blokes:
Griffiths - hopefully he can get through one season playing the majority of games and push forward to be a CHF.
Conca - breakout year.
Batch
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I was going to say Vickery but honestly with the shoulder not coming along as well as I had thought, or him starting the preseason in the rehab group I did not wan't to put unrealistic expectations on him.
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I was going to say Vickery but honestly with the shoulder not coming along as well as I had thought, or him starting the preseason in the rehab group I did not wan't to put unrealistic expectations on him.
Round 1 is roughly 150 days away WAT....
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If Griffiths doesn't come on in 2013 then stuff him off
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Reece Conca and Ben Griffiths ...
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Alex Rance..with Troy chaplin down back and a fit Grimes i think Alex might end up having a blinder next year.
I would also hope to see huge improvement from conca and Ellis and Ty.
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If Griffiths doesn't come on in 2013 then stuff him off
This.time next year he will be 22.
How many blokes in this draft are 200cm and can kick 70m?
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If Griffiths doesn't come on in 2013 then stuff him off
This.time next year he will be 22.
How many blokes in this draft are 200cm and can kick 70m?
:thumbsup
Still so young. I reckon our tall stocks might just be poo hot in a couple of years.
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Our talls don't do enough at reserves level. Silvester was the last bloke to play consistently well for the reserves :lol
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Our talls don't do enough at reserves level. Silvester was the last bloke to play consistently well for the reserves :lol
Because most of them have been playing in the seniors before they are ready. Post maybe the only one to have a consistent stint in the twos.
OH and maybe Shultzy but he is a steaming pile of poo anyway :laugh:.
You don't reckon our tall stocks are promising, Uncle?
Grimes, Rance, Griff, Elton, Astbury, Vickery, Jack. I reckon that' s a pretty solid bunch of young talls.
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Astbury played a lot of reserves footy this year and he got his arse kicked by blokes not on AFL lists. Then he got gifted the last two games of the year and did FA. Griff has done FA. The only time he kicks the ball is from a kick out. Rance is overrated and so is Vickery but both can play. Grimes is very good IMO and Elton is still young. Hasn't had a kick at reserves level either.
I'd just like to see blokes go back to the reserves and kick 9 a week like Schulz used to. But then again he's in the top few forwards in the comp so maybe I expect too much from our promising talls. ;D
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Astbury played a lot of reserves footy this year and he got his arse kicked by blokes not on AFL lists. Then he got gifted the last two games of the year and did FA. Griff has done FA. The only time he kicks the ball is from a kick out. Rance is overrated and so is Vickery but both can play. Grimes is very good IMO and Elton is still young. Hasn't had a kick at reserves level either.
I'd just like to see blokes go back to the reserves and kick 9 a week like Schulz used to. But then again he's in the top few forwards in the comp so maybe I expect too much from our promising talls. ;D
I dont really get your point. I'm not suggesting that Astbury and Griff have dominated. I'm suggesting that both have had poor runs with injury, but are still young and have shown enough to persist with. Combined with our other more established young talls, and I think it's a good bunch.
How was your boy going when he was 21? Dominating, i suppose?
You didn't answer my question either.
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Never said you reckon they dominate, just pointing out that they've been here for years and they've produced FA. Are they promising? Possibly. Not sure why they picked up a gardener if they were convinced of these blokes though...
I'm just a tad sick of guys getting talked up when they have done SFA. Griff has gotten more than 10 touches 4 times in his career. And those 4 games would have been when played as a defender where you can rack up easy stats ala JB. poo, Astbury & Griff might end up being our CHB & CHF for the next 10 years but I certainly won't be talking them up until they at least show they're a cut above VFL.
At the age of 20 Schulz had broken his ankle twice, had a shoulder reco and on his first 3 games back at Coburg that season he kicked 6, 8 and 6 again before earning promotion. Then came into the Richmond side and kicked 16 goals from 9 games. And that was playing second fiddle to Cho, Simmonds & Stafford. He certainly had his faults at Richmond but at least he never shirked a contest and he always performed for the reserves. Poor idiot wasted 7 years at this club under the Wallet & Spud development academy.
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Inb4 "big blokes take time"
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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Our talls don't do enough at reserves level. Silvester was the last bloke to play consistently well for the reserves :lol
Grimes ripped it.up
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Never said you reckon they dominate, just pointing out that they've been here for years and they've produced FA. Are they promising? Possibly. Not sure why they picked up a gardener if they were convinced of these blokes though...
I'm just a tad sick of guys getting talked up when they have done SFA. Griff has gotten more than 10 touches 4 times in his career. And those 4 games would have been when played as a defender where you can rack up easy stats ala JB. poo, Astbury & Griff might end up being our CHB & CHF for the next 10 years but I certainly won't be talking them up until they at least show they're a cut above VFL.
At the age of 20 Schulz had broken his ankle twice, had a shoulder reco and on his first 3 games back at Coburg that season he kicked 6, 8 and 6 again before earning promotion. Then came into the Richmond side and kicked 16 goals from 9 games. And that was playing second fiddle to Cho, Simmonds & Stafford. He certainly had his faults at Richmond but at least he never shirked a contest and he always performed for the reserves. Poor stuffer wasted 7 years at this club under the Wallet & Spud development academy.
Fair enough, old bean. They're actually fairly impressive numbers from your boy, eh? :-\ I guess what it comes down to is that I see futures in Griff, Astbury and Elton, where as you are not convinced yet.That's understandable. Time wil tell, i guess.
But you've got to remember that even Jack, Rance and Grimes are still relatively young and they're proven players. I stand by my prediction that we will have a very strong group of talls in two years time.
And big blokes DO take time ya prick!!! :lol
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I think Elton will be ok. Certainly has balls. Not sure on Astbury and injuries seem to come at Griffo all the time. The bloke could get injured while taking a poo.
We probably will have a good group of talls. We've already got a lot of blokes to choose from...sometimes I just like arguing ;D Stop calling me old FFS :banghead
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;D
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I think Elton will be ok. Certainly has balls. Not sure on Astbury and injuries seem to come at Griffo all the time. The bloke could get injured while taking a poo.
We probably will have a good group of talls. We've already got a lot of blokes to choose from...sometimes I just like arguing ;D Stop calling me old FFS :banghead
Sounds like your boy had his fair share of injuries when he was young too