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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tony_montana on January 26, 2013, 12:29:04 PM
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/senior-players (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/senior-players) click on list view
Taken from the rfc website.
A few things -
We now only have 2 players on the senior list under 80kg, Foley 79kg and nahas 75kg.
-Rance is 194cm and 96kg. A good solid KP size now.
-Grimes has lost weight from last season?? ( was 91kgs), and is now 193cm and 88kgs. Not sure whats going on there, doesnt look smaller, maybe last season was an error or they are slimming him down and want a different role now that Chaplin, Rance and Griff are likely to play in the same defence.
-There was a bit of conjecture about the size of Conca when he was first drafted, some said he was barely touching 180cm, confirmed he is 185cm and 83kgs.
-Vlastuin is already a unit 187cm and 86kgs
-Griff is 200cm and 104kg!
-Mcbean 202cm and 86kg
-Elton 197cm and 97kgs
-Chaplin 195cm and 99kgs
-and the one that Im really chuffed about is Kamdyn McIntosh: is now 192cms, pretty sure I read he was 188cm pre draft? Is now getting up to genuine Key Defender height, which is really pleasing. Did extremely well last year playing undersized on key fwds like Daniher(200cm).
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I don't believe anything put on our website. Apparently McGuane played KPD while being 86kgs for years
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I am thinkin that grimes has had to lose weight as his soft tissues can't handle bulk? ie; his hamstrings.
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Height and weight gains/losses
No. Name Height (gain/loss) Weight (gain/loss)
1. Newy 183 81 (-2)
2. Grimes 193 88 (-3)
3. Lids 188 88
4. Martin 187 89 (+3)
5. Ellis 181 81 (-2)
6. Grigg 190 85
7. Dea 186 87 (+2)
8. Riewoldt 195 94 (+1)
9. Cotchin 185 85 (+1)
10. S.Edwards 182 83 (+3)
11. Batchelor 188 87 (+1)
12. Astbury 195 96 (+3)
13. Petterd 185 85
14. Houli 180 84 (+2)
15. Knights 184 84
16. McGuane 192 92
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18. Rance 194 96 (+3)
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20. I.Maric 200 102
21. Tuck 189 92
22. Lonergan 182 81
23. Jackson 188 (-2) 92 (+4)
24. Griffiths 200 104 (+4)
25. Chaplin 195 99
26. Nahas 176 75 (+3) ..... added 5kg in past two years
27. A.Edwards 184 93
28. King 178 82
29. Vickery 200 97 (+2)
30. Conca 185 83 (+3) ..... added 5kg in past two years
31. Vlastuin 187 86
32. Helbig 185 85 (+2) ..... added 8kg in past two years
33. McIntosh 192 87
34. McBean 202 86
35. White 180 84 (+2)
36. McDonough 180 84
37. Stephenson 200 104
38. Morris 185 83 (-1)
39. Derickx 201 100
40. Williams 186 86
41. Foley 178 79 (-2)
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43. Elton 197 97 (+5)
44. Arnot 180 86 (-1)
45. O'Hanlon 189 89 (+2)
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48. Darrou 190 97
49. Verrier 187 84 (+8)
50. Simon N/A
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Pretty difficult to call Shed too skinny now - even Nahas is at a weight you wouldn't want to add more muscle to avoid impacting his pace.
Whoah Elton Whoah Griffo - freight train city population the Tiger forward line
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Grimes is too skinny. I saw him at training. Looks like a skinny boy again. His hammies were no better when he was under 90kg. He needs a tan too lol
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McBean on twitter says he's now up from 86kg to 90kg.
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McBean on twitter says he's now up from 86kg to 90kg.
Seen him at you know where munching out
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McBean on twitter says he's now up from 86kg to 90kg.
Thats quick. He should be 100kg by the end of the year lol
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Height and weight gains/losses
No. Name Height (gain/loss) Weight (gain/loss)
10. S.Edwards 182 83 (+3)
12. Astbury 195 96 (+3)
18. Rance 194 96 (+3)
24. Griffiths 200 104 (+4)
29. Vickery 200 97 (+2)
30. Conca 185 83 (+3) ..... added 5kg in past two years
32. Helbig 185 85 (+2) ..... added 8kg in past two years
43. Elton 197 97 (+5)
49. Verrier 187 84 (+8)
:shh :shh
23. Jackson 188 (-2) 92 (+4)
Not only can Jacko not kick or think. He is strinking also. :groucho
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I don't think Jacko was ever 190cm. I'm sure he was 188cm last year
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Either that or he isn't wearing heels anymore
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:lol
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Elton and Griffiths weight gain is the most exciting growth for mine. Means they can now start to compete on ability rather than be pushed out of every contests by bigger bodied, mature opponents. Rance and Astbury's growth also bodes well. Vlaustin could make an immediate impact much like Martin did in his first year but he will have to earn his spot though.
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Either that or he isn't wearing heels anymore
So that explains the clangers. ;D
Rest of the team has Adidas, Puma, Nike etc for their footwear Jako has Manolos.
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McBean on twitter says he's now up from 86kg to 90kg.
Thats quick. He should be 100kg by the end of the year lol
Ready for round 1 :thumbsup
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simple rule of thumb for weight height ratio.
if 190cm take the last two digits and that should be your weight. so 190 cm would equate to 90kg give or take a few kg hopefully give.
as in all things you will of course get exceptions like josh hunt at 185cm and almost 100kg. its a rule of thumb and a pretty decent one that is widely used.
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Either that or he isn't wearing heels anymore
;D ;D ;D
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simple rule of thumb for weight height ratio.
if 190cm take the last two digits and that should be your weight. so 190 cm would equate to 90kg give or take a few kg hopefully give.
as in all things you will of course get exceptions like josh hunt at 185cm and almost 100kg. its a rule of thumb and a pretty decent one that is widely used.
Using that rule in reverse I should be about 8" taller than I am!! :o ;D
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simple rule of thumb for weight height ratio.
if 190cm take the last two digits and that should be your weight. so 190 cm would equate to 90kg give or take a few kg hopefully give.
as in all things you will of course get exceptions like josh hunt at 185cm and almost 100kg. its a rule of thumb and a pretty decent one that is widely used.
Probably only applies to sportsman(who do weights) or naturally solid blokes(who haven't done weights) really. Otherwise I reckon you have to do a decent amount of weights to follow that rule while having a small amount of fat. Most people who think they're a decent weight are 10kg over ;D
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simple rule of thumb for weight height ratio.
if 190cm take the last two digits and that should be your weight. so 190 cm would equate to 90kg give or take a few kg hopefully give.
as in all things you will of course get exceptions like josh hunt at 185cm and almost 100kg. its a rule of thumb and a pretty decent one that is widely used.
Probably only applies to sportsman(who do weights) or naturally solid blokes(who haven't done weights) really. Otherwise I reckon you have to do a decent amount of weights to follow that rule while having a small amount of fat. Most people who think they're a decent weight are 10kg over ;D
hmm afl players do a lot of weights and heavily conrol their skin folds. im 185/and 90kg and most people think im skinny. the criteria is saying at 185 i should be 85kg.
anyway it seems to fit. most players on most lists, well most players who have been in the system for 4 yrs plus are a few kg within this rule of thumb.the obvious exceptions are juniors 18 to 21 22 yrs of age wh need to bulk over a 3 or 5 yr period. and those naturaly super skinny blokes who may take longer to get there if at all. then theres the naturally big boned blokes who are hevier than their height ratio.
take shane mumford a crash bash ruckman doesnt matter if hes 100kg or 105 the extra size and strength helps his game i reckon hed be in trouble though if her was just 95 kg and perform the role he does. as i said to me its a sort of minimal guide but as usual in footy lots of other things come in to play that allows for exceptions.
anyway as i said its a rule of thumb and if i was to err id be erring on the high side with our players.
at richmond those who are more than a few kg below the last two digits of their height.
batchelor -188/78 he could do with more size. but i question this weight he sure looks heavier than 78kg.
edwards - 182/78 we all agree he could dp with more size 3 or 4 kg would go a long wat to helping him be a better player.
grigg - 190/85 hes soft because he doesnt have the attributes to improve his tackling or defensive work. 3 or 4 kg of muscle mass wont hurt him and would greatly improve his confidence. i reckon hes been real poor in working on this.
nahas - 176/72 geez the way he gets brushed aside he should be playing above the last two digits.
grimes - 193/83 ifhe is to play kp he needs to over time get close to this rule of thumb.
mcbean - well hes a first yr junior. by the time hes matured if hes to survive he will have to be close with this ratio.
vickery - 200/95 just too light to play first ruck hes one id like to see play above the height ratio especially if hes to be a ruckman.
these are all players most of us would agree are well below weight and lack core strength in certain areas. but if they were at or just above the last two digits of their height and their core strength improved with the weight gain it would look much better.
an example of a player who carries more than his height ratio
king 178/82 his extra size and subsequent strength gives him the one quality that gets him a game.
the most obvious example of a player playing way above his heigt is ablett at 182/88kg. his size and strength thru the core is what makes him such a good player.
anyway not here to argue just thought id offer up what i consider to be a pretty decent guide for where our players weight should be at at a minimum. as ive stated i tend to err on the higher side as a personal preference.feel free to use it as a guide when talking player weight or just use your own method if you have one.
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Batcherlor 78? Easily 80+. Like I said before, I wouldn't believe anything put up on the RFC website.
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Griggy is soft cause he's soft. Not due to a lack of size
Still, handy.
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Batcherlor 78? Easily 80+. Like I said before, I wouldn't believe anything put up on the RFC website.
i normally steer clear of that site but just had a look at the player profiles. they now have him listed at 87kg which sure looks about right. 188cm / 87kg imo hes about right he could maybe gain more but i wouldnt like to see him lose any.
going by the site it seems a lot of players have gained weight so far this off season. perhaps the new fitness regime is actually making a difference.
the vast majority are at or damn near the last 2 digits of their height in weight. it seems even robbie nahas has put on some size.
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What's Nahas up to now? Maybe it grew?
On a serious note I think I read somewhere only 2 of our players weigh under 80kg. Nahas and Foley. Foley has lost weight to ease pressure on his achilles I believe.
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Griggy is soft cause he's soft. Not due to a lack of size
Still, handy.
dont disagree hes more than handy and hes soft.
at 190cm/84kg he would have to be one of the lightest senior players in the comp on a height to weight ratio. surely a bit of size and strength would help him to commit to the contest a bit more than he does.
we see it all the time kids sort of intimidated until they gain parity. grigg still like a kid and i reckon a part of it is he has never gained parity.
to me hes a disgrace hes managed to put on a whopping 4kg or 5kg in 7yrs its obviously an area he refuses to work on. we look for every sml advantage we can get yet heres a bloke happy to concede size weight and strength.
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What's Nahas up to now? Maybe it grew?
On a serious note I think I read somewhere only 2 of our players weigh under 80kg. Nahas and Foley. Foley has lost weight to ease pressure on his achilles I believe.
your right
foley 178/79 lost a couple of kg.
nahas 176/75 :o hes gained about 4kg. it has got to be a help in a contest.
they even have shane edwards listed at 182/83 im shocked.
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So Vickery should weigh 0kg's ;D
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I'm 185 and 86kg. Used to be 92kg. Thought I was in good shape until I saw myself in a photo lol
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I'm 185 and 86kg. Used to be 92kg. Thought I was in good shape until I saw myself in a photo lol
:lol
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Either that or he isn't wearing heels anymore
:lol
Mary Jane's are in fashion atm. ;D