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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: tdy on April 01, 2013, 10:12:20 PM
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Soooo
Whadda people reckon for Mark Neeld? He seems a poo coach to me. He has lost his players even before round one and last year people were saying he was an angry man. Does he make it to round 12?
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Reckon he'll last the season, but goneskies unless he shows something by the end. Would need to justify their ridiculous recruiting strategy somehow too. Next coach will be rooted without the youth they could have drafted instead of the battlers they're contracted to keep for another 2+ years. At least our recent recycled recruits are mostly rookies and no strings attached.
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Should have been sacked this morning followed by the resignations of the CEO and President but they are a weak rabble
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Should have been sacked this morning followed by the resignations of the CEO and President but they are a weak rabble
?? did that really happen when?
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Lloyd sunk the boot into the player development and culture at the club. After showing a screen shot of the draft choices of recent years he said he believes some of those players would of made it at other clubs e.g Geelong and Sydney.
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It isn't the fact they are getting thumped; it is the WAY they are getting thumped
Simply not having a go is the real issue for mine
If they keep getting smashed by 10+ goals every week he will be goneskis by mid-season
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Lloyd sunk the boot into the player development and culture at the club. After showing a screen shot of the draft choices of recent years he said he believes some of those players would of made it at other clubs e.g Geelong and Sydney.
Notably Jade Rawlings and Brian Royal are at the Dees these days and our development was poor when they were coaches at the tiges. I suspect both of them can't coach.
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Lloyd sunk the boot into the player development and culture at the club. After showing a screen shot of the draft choices of recent years he said he believes some of those players would of made it at other clubs e.g Geelong and Sydney.
Notably Jade Rawlings and Brian Royal are at the Dees these days and our development was poor when they were coaches at the tiges. I suspect both of them can't coach.
neeld gets the boot
Neil Craigh will get the gig
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Lloyd sunk the boot into the player development and culture at the club. After showing a screen shot of the draft choices of recent years he said he believes some of those players would of made it at other clubs e.g Geelong and Sydney.
Notably Jade Rawlings and Brian Royal are at the Dees these days and our development was poor when they were coaches at the tiges. I suspect both of them can't coach.
neeld gets the boot
Neil Craigh will get the gig
It seems most assistant coaches who become senior coaches come from a team that has been successful which currently the demons look a long way off being. So the only way they will be able to bring in highly rated assistant coaches would be to spend money. I know they paid off a sizable amount of debt a few years ago but do they actually have much money to spend on a yearly on-going bases for better assistants.
As WP said Neil Craig would be the person to step straight into the role as his already at the club. What is his actual job there.
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As WP said Neil Craig would be the person to step straight into the role as his already at the club. What is his actual job there.
From the Dees sad web-site
Neil Craig - Director Of Sports Performance
He isn't even listed on the Coaches page to find him you need to look under "Staff Members" :rollin
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Lloyd sunk the boot into the player development and culture at the club. After showing a screen shot of the draft choices of recent years he said he believes some of those players would of made it at other clubs e.g Geelong and Sydney.
Thank heavens it's not us these days.
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As WP said Neil Craig would be the person to step straight into the role as his already at the club. What is his actual job there.
From the Dees sad web-site
Neil Craig - Director Of Sports Performance
He isn't even listed on the Coaches page to find him you need to look under "Staff Members" :rollin
And they are paying a poo load for him :clapping
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Should get rid of half the players as well, regardless of the coach the players should have enough pride in their performance to stand up as individuals at least
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Soooo
Whadda people reckon for Mark Neeld? He seems a pooe coach to me. He has lost his players even before round one and last year people were saying he was an angry man. Does he make it to round 12?
Elebenty
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http://beingademonsfan.tumblr.com/
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http://beingademonsfan.tumblr.com/
:rollin
Some funny stuff in there!
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Neeld's hardest team to play against speech :lol
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Robbo has wrote a article about the reviewing process Neeld has gone through since the lose.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-coach-mark-neeld-outlines-how-he-picked-up-his-players-following-the-round-1-disaster/story-e6frepho-1226612018828
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Good humored Demons mate just took a photo if himself up at Mt Bulla and said "Dees are stuffed. Off to the snow."
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Jarred Rivers was just on Triple M, and Bartel SMS'd Billy and asked him to ask Rivers if after the weekend's win is his longest winning streak :lol
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Jarred Rivers was just on Triple M, and Bartel SMS'd Billy and asked him to ask Rivers if after the weekend's win is his longest winning streak :lol
:lol :lol Should fire up the Dees when they play Geelong. Should keep it within 150 this time. :lol
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Coaches rarely survive losses like this. They gave Bailey the flick after a similar loss. It's not as if this is Neeld's first year and his recruiting of older fringe players from other clubs just sums up a coach and Club with no idea. If the Hawks don't want Clarkson anymore then the Dees couldn't do any worse. The whole club needs a total clean out from top to bottom. Garry Lyon should just worry about his rabble of a club than trying to make something out of crap on twitter about Dusty ::).
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:birthday
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Will be surprised if he survives the week after that.
Wonder if he will fall on his sword.
Think he should - it's not worth it
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He'll survive for now. In the 2nd half of the season if another 100+ lose happens it could cost him though.
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Gee he'd be close to getting the arse now after tonight's loss to the bummers. I think the only thing saving him will be the AFL frowning on chucking another coach so soon. Mid year and I reckon he's gone.
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i reckon part of the dees thinking with the trades they made was that they were going to lose draft picks so may as well get what they can with them while they can.
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Coaches rarely survive losses like this. They gave Bailey the flick after a similar loss. It's not as if this is Neeld's first year and his recruiting of older fringe players from other clubs just sums up a coach and Club with no idea. If the Hawks don't want Clarkson anymore then the Dees couldn't do any worse. The whole club needs a total clean out from top to bottom. Garry Lyon should just worry about his rabble of a club than trying to make something out of crap on twitter about Dusty ::).
Clarkson would be stupid to go to Melbourne. Melbourne is like what we were about 20 years with coaches - the AFL equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle. Anyone who goes to coach Melbourne will be ending their careers at Melbourne. They should go after someone like Wallace if they want a coach. He has nothing to lose and may give it another go. Clarkson can afford to wait if the Hawks ditch him.
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Coaches rarely survive losses like this. They gave Bailey the flick after a similar loss. It's not as if this is Neeld's first year and his recruiting of older fringe players from other clubs just sums up a coach and Club with no idea. If the Hawks don't want Clarkson anymore then the Dees couldn't do any worse. The whole club needs a total clean out from top to bottom. Garry Lyon should just worry about his rabble of a club than trying to make something out of crap on twitter about Dusty ::).
Clarkson would be stupid to go to Melbourne. Melbourne is like what we were about 20 years with coaches - the AFL equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle. Anyone who goes to coach Melbourne will be ending their careers at Melbourne. They should go after someone like Wallace if they want a coach. He has nothing to lose and may give it another go. Clarkson can afford to wait if the Hawks ditch him.
They can't afford Wallace? What coin to pay Neeld out? What is Dawes and all these new recruits on. We saw what Walace did with our supposed rebuild. Who in their right mind will invest their life into that club. They might be debt free now they won't be in the near future. They are where we were in the late 80's early 90's.
they are a half way house for recycled footballers and overpaid under performing and poorly developed draft picks and players.
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Jarred Rivers was just on Triple M, and Bartel SMS'd Billy and asked him to ask Rivers if after the weekend's win is his longest winning streak :lol
:lol :lol Should fire up the Dees when they play Geelong. Should keep it within 150 this time. :lol
Or not... :lol
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Does anyone actually feel sorry for Melbourne fans? Those wankers laughed at us when McMahon kicked that goal. They sung the song after the game. Most will deny they sung it but reality is ALOT of them did sing it. In fact in my area they nearly all sung it. Then they laughed at us when they signed Neil Craig instead of us and talked about having the best off field team going around with Neeld at the helm. Then came back and laughed at us when Bailey signed with Adelaide despite me having knowledge we didn't offer Bailey a job in the end. stuff these morons. You cheered on a loss and now you're getting them by the truckload. Eat poo. ;D
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Does anyone actually feel sorry for Melbourne fans? Those wankers laughed at us when McMahon kicked that goal. They sung the song after the game. Most will deny they sung it but reality is ALOT of them did sing it. In fact in my area they nearly all sung it. Then they laughed at us when they signed Neil Craig instead of us and talked about having the best off field team going around with Neeld at the helm. Then came back and laughed at us when Bailey signed with Adelaide despite me having knowledge we didn't offer Bailey a job in the end. stuff these morons. You cheered on a loss and now you're getting them by the truckload. Eat poo. ;D
None. Have hated this mob more than anyone for years. Sick of the years being compared to them on and off field and sick of their smug supporters always thinking they were our better.
Wouldn't pee on one if they were on fire.
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Does anyone actually feel sorry for Melbourne fans? Those wankers laughed at us when McMahon kicked that goal. They sung the song after the game. Most will deny they sung it but reality is ALOT of them did sing it. In fact in my area they nearly all sung it. Then they laughed at us when they signed Neil Craig instead of us and talked about having the best off field team going around with Neeld at the helm. Then came back and laughed at us when Bailey signed with Adelaide despite me having knowledge we didn't offer Bailey a job in the end. stuff these morons. You cheered on a loss and now you're getting them by the truckload. Eat poo. ;D
None. Have hated this mob more than anyone for years. Sick of the years being compared to them on and off field and sick of their smug supporters always thinking they were our better.
Wouldn't pee on one if they were on fire.
:clapping
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WHY HATE Melbourne. Theyve been an irrelevant club for a long time. They should be of no interest to us except for a couple of young players that we should try and take of them. Operation get Jack Viney out of Melbourne should be one of our goals. He would be terrific in our midfield.
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Bring back Daniher
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Melbourne have got away from being scrutinised for too long because of who their former President was and what he suffered through. The media left alone. Well he is no longer here so they need to cop what so many other teams have faced before them.
They are getting IMHO exactly what the deserve.
And BTW I agree with smokey re their tanking, they are reaping what the sowed on that front
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So just going through the media Schwab, Craig, Mclardy and the players have all come out and publicly backed Neeld.......I think he is well and truly.........u know whatted.
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I'd book early if you plan on going to the snow this year or you might miss out
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We can be sure of one thing Lyon won't be helping them.
REVERED Melbourne identity Garry Lyon has dismissed calls to step in and help fix the Demons, saying he does not have the time.
As his club was being annihilated by Essendon at the MCG on Saturday night, Lyon has revealed his phone was buzzing with Melbourne people urging him to step up and help stop the rot.
But Lyon, who helped appoint embattled coach Mark Neeld, last night declared that would not be happening.
"My phone didn't stop the whole night during from Melbourne people - former players, supporters saying: 'Do something,'" he said on Channel Nine.
"Well, it is time for someone else to do something.
"I can't do it - circumstances don't allow me to do it professionally.
"And it is not something I am involved or interested in doing."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/revered-melbourne-figure-garry-lyon-says-he-wont-step-in-to-help-the-demons/story-e6frf9mf-1226615317603
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We can be sure of one thing Lyon won't be helping them.
Would think Glary has helped them more than enough in the last 24 months with his "review" of the footy dept and appointment of the current coach ;D
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Tasmania Demons.
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WHY HATE Melbourne. Theyve been an irrelevant club for a long time. They should be of no interest to us except for a couple of young players that we should try and take of them. Operation get Jack Viney out of Melbourne should be one of our goals. He would be terrific in our midfield.
For them knocking us out of the finals in the last game of the year with the wizard taking almost f'n mark of the year in the forward pocket. I hope they suffer. Baaaad.
And I hope there is no snow! Ha!
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WHY HATE Melbourne. Theyve been an irrelevant club for a long time. They should be of no interest to us except for a couple of young players that we should try and take of them. Operation get Jack Viney out of Melbourne should be one of our goals. He would be terrific in our midfield.
For them knocking us out of the finals in the last game of the year with the wizard taking almost f'n mark of the year in the forward pocket. I hope they suffer. Baaaad.
And I hope there is no snow! Ha!
Fans would be in a pickle then...woah and we thought they were angry about the way the teams playing. Wait till they find this out :shh
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WHY HATE Melbourne. Theyve been an irrelevant club for a long time. They should be of no interest to us except for a couple of young players that we should try and take of them. Operation get Jack Viney out of Melbourne should be one of our goals. He would be terrific in our midfield.
For them knocking us out of the finals in the last game of the year with the wizard taking almost f'n mark of the year in the forward pocket. I hope they suffer. Baaaad.
And I hope there is no snow! Ha!
Never forget that. Such a lowly club to inflict such pain.
Need to remind them of the footy pecking order. Let them suffer.
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We can be sure of one thing Lyon won't be helping them.
REVERED Melbourne identity Garry Lyon has dismissed calls to step in and help fix the Demons, saying he does not have the time.
As his club was being annihilated by Essendon at the MCG on Saturday night, Lyon has revealed his phone was buzzing with Melbourne people urging him to step up and help stop the rot.
But Lyon, who helped appoint embattled coach Mark Neeld, last night declared that would not be happening.
"My phone didn't stop the whole night during from Melbourne people - former players, supporters saying: 'Do something,'" he said on Channel Nine.
"Well, it is time for someone else to do something.
"I can't do it - circumstances don't allow me to do it professionally.
"And it is not something I am involved or interested in doing."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/revered-melbourne-figure-garry-lyon-says-he-wont-step-in-to-help-the-demons/story-e6frf9mf-1226615317603
Lyon is a Moo, he couldn't lead a new guy in the office to the water cooler. He's smart enough to stay away from an area he knows nothing about - leadership.
As for Neeld, I think he's in way over his head, and needs to win back the playing group or this will be his last season. His assistant coaches (apart from Neil Craig perhaps) are laughable and all need a clean out.
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We can be sure of one thing Lyon won't be helping them.
Would think Glary has helped them more than enough in the last 24 months with his "review" of the footy dept and appointment of the current coach ;D
:lol
Wasn't Bailey as well as Neeld ticked off by Lyon? You're right WP, Gary has helped them more than enough ;D.
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We can be sure of one thing Lyon won't be helping them.
Would think Glary has helped them more than enough in the last 24 months with his "review" of the footy dept and appointment of the current coach ;D
:lol
Wasn't Bailey as well as Neeld ticked off by Lyon? You're right WP, Gary has helped them more than enough ;D.
Some people are just a bad judge of character, obviously Lyon has no clue, been burnt twice and is wise enough to know enough to stay away. At least he's that smart.
Edited to correct quote
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Didn't it go like this
Garry asks Malthouse if he wants to coach the Dees
Malthouse nearly dies laughing
Malthouse recommends Neeld to stop Garry crying
Garry looks in Neeld's eyes
Garry declares Neeld the right man for the job
I think so :cheers
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One of the funniest things ive seen in footy. today watching channel 9 news they did a report on Melbourne training and the supporters were chanting ... "we are the army the mighty demon army" or something like that. The army consisted of 6 or 7 blokes chanting lol. We have the Essendon War Machine and now the Mighty Melbourne Army and lets not forget the Norf Korean leadership that wants to blow the world to shizenhausen. The worlds a crazy place indeed.
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Funny stuff Ramps :lol. Did this "Army" have rugs over their laps and were carrying thermoses? lol.
Another 94 point flogging today. You know you're desperate for positives when being 10 points down at half-time is something to boast about after the game. Next week will be Neeld's judgement day. Lose to the Giants on the 'G and it won't be a surprise if he's sacked or resigns himself.
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Good stuff Dees kept it under 100 and % has cracked the 30 barrier. Go you good things. :clapping
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Good stuff Dees kept it under 100 and % has cracked the 30 barrier. Go you good things. :clapping
:lol they're on fire
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Good stuff Dees kept it under 100 and % has cracked the 30 barrier. Go you good things. :clapping
Bloody ripper :clapping Surely Neeld has earned a contract extrention
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They give an effort for half a footy game and yet still nearly beaten by a 100. It'll be hard to recover this season but looking at how Port are playing under a new coach it shows the confidence a new coach can bring.
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They give an effort for half a footy game and yet still nearly beaten by a 100. It'll be hard to recover this season but looking at how Port are playing under a good coach it shows the confidence a good coach can bring.
EFA
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They give an effort for half a footy game and yet still nearly beaten by a 100. It'll be hard to recover this season but looking at how Port are playing under a new coach it shows the confidence a new coach can bring.
Poort have drafted quite well though, they have the makings of a great midfield. Melbournes list is horrible.
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They give an effort for half a footy game and yet still nearly beaten by a 100. It'll be hard to recover this season but looking at how Port are playing under a new coach it shows the confidence a new coach can bring.
They're still using Schulz though, says they don't have good KPP to me. He's played OK over there but he ain't no Taylor Walker.
Poort have drafted quite well though, they have the makings of a great midfield. Melbournes list is horrible.
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no point trolling posters that are no longer with us.
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no point trolling posters that are no longer with us.
Where is Coach?
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no point trolling posters that are no longer with us.
Where is Coach?
Siberia, Salt Mines, no forwarding address. :'(
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no point trolling posters that are no longer with us.
Where is Coach?
Siberia, Salt Mines, no forwarding address. :'(
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no one comes back from the salt mines.
beware the prude police
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Is he on a one month sabbatical?
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Is he on a one month sabbatical?
Nope.
sabbaticus inregressibilis
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Imagine if the demons lose by a decent margin 40+ against GWS. That would have to be a disaster for Neeld.
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Imagine if the demons lose by a decent margin 40+ against GWS. That would have to be a disaster for Neeld.
I reckon any loss to them will be but a substantial one will end his career within days.
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Imagine if the demons lose by a decent margin 40+ against GWS. That would have to be a disaster for Neeld.
I reckon any loss to them will be but a substantial one will end his career within days.
It wouldnt matter whether they had Mick Malthouse or Micky Mouse coaching that team, its the club, its buildings its culture its grotesque and the whole lot should be pressure cleaned with anti-loser formula :shh
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Another loss to the Dees against a weak side. The Age described the game as terrible, but they have won one now, maybe Neeld will last out the season.
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The word in the media (Tony Sheahan last night and SEN this morning) is that the AFL is apparently pushing for Paul Roos to take over as coach of Melbourne next year.
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The word in the media (Tony Sheahan last night and SEN this morning) is that the AFL is apparently pushing for Paul Roos to take over as coach of Melbourne next year.
Robbo said on 360 last night he asked Roos and he said no way.
https://twitter.com/robbo_heraldsun/status/332036897306181632
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Roos may be an up himself knob but he's not stupid. :shh
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Roos may be an up himself knob but he's not stupid. :shh
He's waiting to take over a better list :shh
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Roos may be an up himself knob but he's not stupid. :shh
Yep Melbourne is a coaching career killer.
He's waiting to take over a better list :shh
Another rumour doing the rounds is Worsfold will give it away at the Eagles at the end of the year with Roos replacing him.
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Interim Melbourne CEO Peter Jackson on the Sunday Footy Show wouldn't guarantee Neeld's position.
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About an hour or so
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Changing coaches won't turn around things in the short-term but with the right coach it can give optimism that in time things will come good. Some optimism is what Melbourne really need otherwise members won't re-sign up again next year which would be something Jackson would be thinking about.
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i feel for neeld, taking over a club that had a cancerous culture of setting out to deliberately lose games of football. he has probably had to strip things further back than hardwick did, yet still had the same board/administration that developed the rotten lay down culture. their recovery will be slow and painfull.
I have no sympathy for their supporters who rejoiced in a loss, for they are now reaping what they sowed.
I doubt there will too many Melbourne supporters singing our song if ( I should say when, but there is always that inbuilt darkness from years of disappointment) we beat them next week.
I would hope that all richmond supporters encourage any remaining melbourne supporters to join in the singing of our song, after all they have done it before. They do know the words.
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Whole club should be packed off to relocate to New Zealand
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Whole club should be packed off to relocate to New Zealand
Some good snow in NZ.
:lol
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Whole club should be packed off to relocate to New Zealand
The Tassie Demons should come in. The reality is that MFC serves no purpose. They represent nothing. They have nothing going for them. Today only 13000 people watched them. Next week we will win by 10 goals at least. Melbourne is finished as we know them. They should make the hard decision and relocate to Tasmania.
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Not sure who it was ,but heard someone either in the media or AFL say that we cannot have the brand Melbourne fail
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Not sure who it was ,but heard someone either in the media or AFL say that we cannot have the brand Melbourne fail
That brand in a football sense doesnt mean anything. Melbourne as a city is made up of suburbs like Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, Hawthorn etc etc. Melbourne FC doesnt mean squat to anybody. They should go to Tassie or be merged with North Melbourne.
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you have not heard this mentioned? about the brand Melbourne
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Will be lucky to see out the week
Only Peter Jackson can save him getting the boot
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lol so he's relying on a pack of cigarettes to save his job?..lol
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Bit unfair for Neeld, Gold Coast is a much better team/list than Melbourne, the embarrassment factor of losing to the Suns is still there though. Suns over the Dees was one of the easier tips for the weekend.
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All jokes aside the AFL needs a Melbourne football club in Melbourne, they've thrown money around Australia propping up shlt truck clubs and bought the swans a flag.
Whether you or I for that matter like it Melbourne is a traditional Aussie rules club and needs to stay IMO.
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What and make Jade coach, he is stuffing worse :rollin
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I expect Neil Craig to be announced Tuesday. :lol
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Not sure who it was ,but heard someone either in the media or AFL say that we cannot have the brand Melbourne fail
Yeah I heard that Gig i just can't remember who it was but it was on the radio. Fair chance it was some knob like Harley or Spike Mcveigh.
From what I remember it was quickly dismissed as a laugh, that we need Melbourne in our national comp as its the name of the city.
They are a complete basket case. On and off the field.
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Reading the article on the afl website of the interview with Jackson the club sounds like a complete basketcase. They have learn't nothing from their 186 lose that they sacked Bailey over. It sound's like their biggest problem is no one has had previous experience before working there.
Interim CEO Peter Jackson, who began in the job on May 1, told AFL.com.au that although the club could cover that shortfall the Demons needed to focus on their core business of football.
Success in that area he said was the only way to give impetus to other revenue generating ideas.
"You have got to get your footy right first and build the rest of it afterwards," Jackson said.
Jackson will spend the next three to four months focusing on what needs to change to improve the football program.
Jackson has already identified that reporting lines from the football department to the CEO and board need to be streamlined.
Amazingly, the football department had several lines of reporting through to the CEO.
At most clubs, the football manager reports to the CEO and the board.
Jackson suggested that making structural tweaks would allow him to make a better assessment of how people in the football department performed in their roles.
The CEO said it was clear that many people in the football department were inexperienced and given the number of dramas surrounding the club since the 186-point loss to Geelong in 2011, it was hard to imagine even the most experienced person performing at their optimum in such an environment.
Matching them with a young list and a lack of mid-level experience, to teach and support the youngsters, made performing consistently a huge challenge.
"Apart from Neil Craig, people are generally inexperienced at their job, not everybody, but generally," Jackson said.
"[They] haven't necessarily imported people from around the industry who can hit the ground running and know what is involved. They are the sort of issues. Now that does not mean you pick everything up and throw it out. I'm not suggesting that for a minute but we do have to tighten the structures and reporting structures."
Once the structures were right and an appropriate management process was in place then the focus would change.
"The CEO should support football and not be in football," Jackson said.
Jackson's personal view when it comes to football however is that list management is the most critical component to deliver success.
"If you don't get that right, there is nothing you can do," Jackson said.
Melbourne installed a new recruiting manager, Jason Taylor, in the middle of December after Todd Viney assumed the role temporarily for 2012.
Tim Harrington has been list manager since 2009 while Viney remains as player development manager and strategy.
While the current exchange and draft period delivered a mix of talented youngsters and recycled veterans, the strategy has received much external criticism.
Many in the Demons' football department believe however that the success or otherwise of the 2012 approach should not be judged for at least 12 months.
Jackson said without a strong list in place, player development was next to impossible.
It's still a matter of much debate externally whether the chosen talent has been developed properly or not.
And decisions that have been made to recruit or delist players in the past few seasons have also been questioned.
The club lost four first round draft picks at the end of 2012.
The ability of those employed to make such decisions will be assessed also but Jackson did not have any pre-conceived opinions.
Jackson said the question he would like to pose to the football public and supporters in relation to the coach Mark Neeld was, 'has he really had a chance yet for us to find out whether he can coach?'
"I would rather take that approach then everyone speculating all the time on where things are at," Jackson said.
He understood however that talk about the coach was just part of football and something that people needed to manage.
"It's going to be harder for the coach than it is for me. It's going to be harder for the board," Jackson said.
He said the club's focus needed to be clear and there was no time or need to rake over the coals of the past.
"I can't worry about that. I have got to move forward. I've got to make an assessment of people, structures … and start to put in some expectations as to how we do business to slowly build respect into all those stakeholders," Jackson said.
"If there are issues that relate to the past they will pop up. We'll find them and we'll address them but there is no point going back to analyse the past."
He said Melbourne needed to win back respect of supporters, other clubs, the AFL and the rest of the AFL community by the way it did business.
He left staff in no doubt of his intention addressing them as a group more than once since arriving at the club.
"What I have spoken to them about in the shorter term is just how we do business. Winning back respect is [about] how we do business in a total sense," Jackson said.
There was no sudden movement of the eyes as he said it. There will be no spin under this CEO.
He has not got the time or inclination to muck around.
The challenge attracted him more than the thought of being back at the coalface of football again.
"Six weeks ago if you said to me you will be sitting in the CEO's office at Melbourne footy club I would have said you were insane," Jackson said.
But now he is back, he is charging ahead.
And started by telling it how it is.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-12/dees-milliondollar-loss
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Will be lucky to see out the week
And wouldn't that just be our luck. Cop them on the week they fire up under a new coach and make life difficult or even win. They then go back to the mediocre crap that they really are but good ol' Milestone Tigers just manage to time it right yet again. :help
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Will be lucky to see out the week
And wouldn't that just be our luck. Cop them on the week they fire up under a new coach and make life difficult or even win. They then go back to the mediocre crap that they really are but good ol' Milestone Tigers just manage to time it right yet again. :help
Yer they'll fire up and keep it just under 100. :whistle
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SEN update:
A guy rang Robbo today and burst into tears talking about the Dees :lol
Another caller is blaming GWS and GC Suns for pillaging the draft while Melbourne has been down.... :nope from 2004 to 2009 the Dees blew plenty of picks.
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SEN update:
A guy rang Robbo today and burst into tears talking about the Dees :lol
Another caller is blaming GWS and GC Suns for pillaging the draft while Melbourne has been down.... :nope from 2004 to 2009 the Dees blew plenty of picks.
Like they were ahead of us and now behind? And like how they could of had Wines instead of Toumpas? :lol
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SEN update:
A guy rang Robbo today and burst into tears talking about the Dees :lol
Another caller is blaming GWS and GC Suns for pillaging the draft while Melbourne has been down.... :nope from 2004 to 2009 the Dees blew plenty of picks.
I didnt actually find that bit amusing, I was listening to that segment as I always do. The fact the guy hasnt missed a game since 1980 iirc just shows how passionate he is as a supporter. Maybe I should be more of a prick but I doubt he is a typical Heath or Stuart fair weather supporter, he has every right to feel agreaved with the club.
Then again if it was nought, id be doing the irish jig naked outside arden st :shh
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SEN update:
A guy rang Robbo today and burst into tears talking about the Dees :lol
Another caller is blaming GWS and GC Suns for pillaging the draft while Melbourne has been down.... :nope from 2004 to 2009 the Dees blew plenty of picks.
I didnt actually find that bit amusing, I was listening to that segment as I always do. The fact the guy hasnt missed a game since 1980 iirc just shows how passionate he is as a supporter. Maybe I should be more of a prick but I doubt he is a typical Heath or Stuart fair weather supporter, he has every right to feel agreaved with the club.
Then again if it was nought, id be doing the irish jig naked outside arden st :shh
Fair point but what's to say he wasn't one of the tool bags happy to lay the boot into us and sing our song.
Stuff em all.
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F them and F North.
Stuart and Will our Sen callers should be happy the weather is deteriorating and the snow season is about to begin with a flurry. Like a flurry of goals against the Dees. :lol :rollin :lol
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Toumpas will be a better player than Wines
Wines is a flid
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Neeld will be coaching against us this weekend.
MARK Neeld will coach against Richmond on Sunday.
Melbourne has backed its embattled coach to continue in the role, with the immediate focus on a restructure of the club's dysfunctional football department.
New chief executive Peter Jackson spoke to Neeld yesterday and told him to get on with the job amid calls for his sacking.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/mark-neeld-will-coach-this-week-but-his-melbourne-future-remains-up-in-the-air/story-e6frepho-1226641527740
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With their operational loss, fine etc, I don't even think they can afford to pay him out anyway?
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I hope the Dees keep the status quo for another week. The more they remain the same, the better the scoreboard will look on Sunday for us ;D.
Edit: Cheers tiger101. Good to see.
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SEN update:
A guy rang Robbo today and burst into tears talking about the Dees :lol
Here's the audio from SEN:
http://video.heraldsun.com.au/2384828956/Dad-they-dont-try
How about the kid that handed his Melbourne jumper back to his Dad and then ran to Mum asking her to buy him a Richmond one which she did.
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F them and F North.
Stuart and Will our Sen callers should be happy the weather is deteriorating and the snow season is about to begin with a flurry. Like a flurry of goals against the Dees. :lol :rollin :lol
thats the true greek spirit tucker ... lets just root everybody until they had enough ;D
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4.50 100 + hmmmm
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Paul Roos on foxfooty on the couch said he won't be coaching the demons.
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F them and F North.
Stuart and Will our Sen callers should be happy the weather is deteriorating and the snow season is about to begin with a flurry. Like a flurry of goals against the Dees. :lol :rollin :lol
thats the true greek spirit tucker ... lets just root everybody until they had enough ;D
;D
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I hope the Dees keep the status quo for another week. The more they remain the same, the better the scoreboard will look on Sunday for us ;D.
Edit: Cheers tiger101. Good to see.
Great to see Melbourne showing some stability and leadership albeit from a ringer who has no emotional tie with the people and the club. ;D
Hopefully the MNCK 186 happens against us. (Mark Neeld Coach Killer)
If not it will happen in one of three weeks after us.
Either way if we focus and go about it right way we will get close to 100 if not pass it. :thumbsup
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F them and F North.
Stuart and Will our Sen callers should be happy the weather is deteriorating and the snow season is about to begin with a flurry. Like a flurry of goals against the Dees. :lol :rollin :lol
thats the true greek spirit tucker ... lets just root everybody until they had enough ;D
;D
OER should go on the road with pub nights we could entertain the crowds with our philosophies and make some drachmas as we go along ;D
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Maybe this might be his last game.
Poor bastard.
Melbourne ruining the careers of players and coaches alike just as we have for many many years.
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The demon's fans won't like what they read today but nor should they. The team has gone backwards to some degree under Neeld and his in the papers today saying they've got a couple years of rebuilding ahead of them.
''There's no short-term fix, it's a long-term fix,'' Neeld said.
''We're doing exactly what everyone said the football club needed to do two to three years ago.''
He said there were already early signs of improvement, however. ''If you look at our past month, three of those games, the effort and all the combative stats have been particularly good, and when you're dealing with inexperienced groups you're going to have weeks where it's not so good.''
Neeld said it was also impossible to tell how many players were performing to their potential due to their inexperience. ''We've got 13 players out there tomorrow who have played under 50 games … how many players with under 50 games play to their full potential?''
Neeld said Richmond players had around 90 games under their belts and even a win for Melbourne would not turn the situation around quickly.
''Our aim is to be competitive for as long as we possibly can and that's where we're at,'' he said.
He said the club's plan of a complete facelift would take between three to five years to complete.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/neeld-expects-years-of-demons-pain-20130518-2jtcm.html#ixzz2TiDjAEam
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Yes Davey and Jamar should be ready in 5-6 years.
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Needed to go one on one and get them competitive.
At least that will make them accountable and give them an appetite for the contest.
Round 23 will be his last game.
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Heard Dr turf on SEN say that colin Sylvia might be magpie bound come seasons end
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Sylvia is a complete knob jockey so you would imagine Dr Turf would know anything important when it comes to jockeys.
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The Dees are 70 pts down and there's still almost another half to go. Neeld might be saved from scrutiny though with North choking big time.
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360 saying to tune into On the Couch tonight to listen to something Neeld being given until the bye.
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If we let Melbourne get Roos without us having a crack I will be shattered.
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If we let Melbourne get Roos without us having a crack I will be shattered.
Was just thinking the same thing. Are there any other genuine options?
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For Melbourne, Brett Ratten, Eade, Choco Williams.
For us I think the options are limited, has to be Roos or Williams, who is unlikely to take the job out of loyalty.
Leigh Matthews would be a good get for us I think, we need a coach big enough to make tough calls without fear or favour.
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Healy said on 3AW tonight, in his view Neeld has 2weeks to save his job
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Healy said on 3AW tonight, in his view Neeld has 2weeks to save his job
Yep. Whately says it comes from a private conversion weeks ago (with whom I don't know), Robbo nodded and said to take what Healy said as an informed opinion, or educated opinion, up to you.
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At two weeks he wont make rnd 12 my initial guess. Damn I shoulda laid a bet on it.
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Former Demons star Gerard Healy says Neeld has two weeks to save his job ...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-27/healy-on-demons-neeld
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news tonight said that Melbourne might look across the road to Punt Rd and Mark Williams.
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news tonight said that Melbourne might look across the road to Punt Rd and Mark Williams.
My first thought was, the way the Dees are going they'd offer the job to the other Mark Williams (read the wrong one) not Choco ;D
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I knocked the job back last week, don't do grammar boys blazers or flying ;D
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Garry Garry Lyon and his too smart by half cronies knocked back Eade and Choco when they were looking for Bailey's replacement
Wonder if they'll now get a little bit of how's your father from the two of them
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Roos would never coach Melbourne. If Hardwick fails in the next 12 months then Roos will probably coach Richmond because its still a great job to get.
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Wayne Campbell is our next coach
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Wayne Campbell is our next coach
Good to see we will be going with people with a history of winning premierships at AFL level lol. Cambos a good guy but If Campbo gets the gig next then our club is a joke.
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Wayne Campbell is our next coach
And I'm GWS' newest fan. Carn Giants. If it wasn't so realistic I'd laugh at this post. :(
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Would LUV Roos @ PuntRoad
Would be shattered if Cambo got the gig.
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Wayne Campbell is our next coach
Good to see we will be going with people with a history of winning premierships at AFL level lol.
Just like Sydney did with Paul Roos?
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I have heard that Pauly is waiting for us to move on Dimma next year
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I have heard that Pauly is waiting for us to move on Dimma next year
this is correct. the cucumber has good info IMHO.
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MELBOURNE coach Mark Neeld is set to face the club's board next Monday to discuss the Demons' woeful start to 2013.
His appearance comes amid speculation that the board will decide on his future at the meeting.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-30/neeld-to-face-board
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MELBOURNE coach Mark Neeld is set to face the club's board next Monday to discuss the Demons' woeful start to 2013.
His appearance comes amid speculation that the board will decide on his future at the meeting.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-30/neeld-to-face-board
I reckon his future has been decided, just a case of when not if
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Maybe they're only calling him in to watch the Tiges v Eagles game together :cheers
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Maybe they're only calling him in to watch the Tiges v Eagles game together :cheers
Exactly, the glare of Monday night footy taking the spotlight away from the hapless plight of the Range Rover and Volvo drivers footy club. :help
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MELBOURNE coach Mark Neeld is set to face the club's board next Monday to discuss the Demons' woeful start to 2013.
His appearance comes amid speculation that the board will decide on his future at the meeting.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-30/neeld-to-face-board
I reckon his future has been decided, just a case of when not if
Spot on. Will we get a press conference Tuesday?
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MELBOURNE coach Mark Neeld is set to face the club's board next Monday to discuss the Demons' woeful start to 2013.
His appearance comes amid speculation that the board will decide on his future at the meeting.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-30/neeld-to-face-board
I reckon his future has been decided, just a case of when not if
Spot on. Will we get a press conference Tuesday?
Tuesdays with Terry :shh
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Melbourne president Don McLardy has forecast significant change at the club within weeks.
However, McLardy didn’t address the future of embattled coach Mark Neeld, who will make his monthly presentation to the Demons' board on Monday.
Speculation is rife that Neeld will be sacked at the meeting.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-02/change-is-coming-to-dees
This was before they were flogged by 95 pts by the Hawks.
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Looks like less than 24 hours now. :help
He looked very stressed in the box today. He knows his fate and today it showed. Very animated almost looked like tears were welling up just held it together really.
Bloke bought into a lemon footy club and his reputation is tattered as much as that footy club.
Can remember in 2009 when we were looking for a coach and the rumours were we were having a crack at Bucks, Eddie came out and said Mark Neeld will make a great coach one day and that we should go for him. Neeld was at the club for one year at that time.
What odds he takes up a role at Carlton under his old mentor in Mick Malthouse after the dust settles on his departure from Melbourne?
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Seems like an assistant coach that just took that one career step too far.
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Seems like an assistant coach that just took that one career step too far.
Possibly, however Moses would have trouble getting something out of that Melbourne side
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It's a hard thing to time but an assistant coach looking for a senior gig needs to judge and interview the potential club he's considering coaching as much as that club judges and interviews him. With Melbourne and St Kilda, it would've been and would be better off to pass and wait for a list and club that has already bottomed out and sorted out it's structural and financial issues and has a list you can take somewhere in 3-4 years time.
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Re: How long for Mark Neeld at the Dee's?
I reckon you can safely count it in hours and minutes now.
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word according to Tim Watson is they are going to come for one of
Lethal
Roos
Choco :banghead
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I'm still waiting for his elite structures that everyone will hate playing against.
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ABC went early that Neeld had been sacked but it seems they were wrong. Melbourne are denying it while other news agencies are saying Neeld is safe for now.
7NewsMelbourne - UPDATE: @Stevo7AFL reports Mark Neeld 'safe for now' as @melbournefc coach. Story with link to come.
@SENNews - Update from @melbournefc - Mark Neeld has not been sacked and Peter Jackson will stay on as CEO until the end of 2014.
AFL Online - Neeld survives to coach another day despite plenty of journos claiming he would be sacked today. Good decision by the board IMO.
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From Melbourne's president:
In today’s Board meeting Peter Jackson presented his early recommendations for our Club following his first month in the role of CEO. Peter Jackson has been asked by the Board to examine every aspect of the Club and today he outlined a number of changes he believes are required to take our Club forward. In coming weeks and months we will seek to change the structure of the Football Department as well as a number of other aspects of our business.
Today, as with all Board Meetings, there was a presentation from the Football Department from Mark Neeld, Neil Craig, Todd Viney and Josh Mahoney. Our on-field performances have not met expectations this year and everyone in the Football Department continues to face ongoing assessment in their roles as do those employed in other areas of the Club. The Club will make no further comment at this time, in relation to the senior coach position.
We are extremely pleased to announce today that following the Board’s request to Peter Jackson to extend his tenure as CEO beyond the initial 6 month contract, he has agreed to stay in the role of CEO until at least the end of 2014.
I will continue to provide you with regular updates.
Don McLardy
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/melbourne/news/2013-06-03/update-from-todays-board-meeting.workstation
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Our on-field performances have not met expectations this year
Not sure about in house but they are about where I figured they'd be :lol
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So it's now been upgraded to half a season.
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Lyon arguing on footy classified that it would be wrong for the board to of already stamped his papers and not told him because he could still turn things around in the 2nd half of the season and could even win games.
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They have a few players that we could use;
Hogan, Viney, Trengrove, Toumpas, Grimes, Frawley. Its not a list devoid of talent.
If the AFL gives them handouts in regards to draft picks its beyond a joke.
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Toumpas is the worst player in the history of anything. He wears a poo bag FFS
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poor little jimmy toumpas, carrying the can full of poo :'(
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Hmmm David Schwarz saying he hopes they get flogged by the Pies so Neeld gets the rs
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Hmmm David Schwarz saying he hopes they get flogged by the Pies so Neeld gets the rs
Everyone is expecting them to get flogged this weekend. I don't know why the board would backflip on its decision from earlier this week to sacking him on Tuesday next week.
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Hmmm David Schwarz saying he hopes they get flogged by the Pies so Neeld gets the rs
Won't be disappointed this way.
Reckon he's taken the Pies to cover the line so needs the Dees to get flogged or he might not have a house to sleep in Monday night. :shh
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Hmmm David Schwarz saying he hopes they get flogged by the Pies so Neeld gets the rs
Won't be disappointed this way.
Reckon he's taken the Pies to cover the line so needs the Dees to get flogged or he might not have a house to sleep in Monday night. :shh
Ooh that's harsh.
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They have a few players that we could use;
Hogan, Viney, Trengrove, Toumpas, Grimes, Frawley. Its not a list devoid of talent.
If the AFL gives them handouts in regards to draft picks its beyond a joke.
I'd take Jones,Viney and Howe and if cheap Watts(I know others thinks hes a pea heart, I think he's coached crap)
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Hmmm David Schwarz saying he hopes they get flogged by the Pies so Neeld gets the rs
Won't be disappointed this way.
Reckon he's taken the Pies to cover the line so needs the Dees to get flogged or he might not have a house to sleep in Monday night. :shh
Ooh that's harsh.
Too far you reckon? Or just on the border? ;D
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Rodney Eade would be a good appointment by the demon's to the coaching position. He got alot out of the bulldogs who didn't have alot of money.
A NEW-LOOK Melbourne football department could be headed by experienced AFL administrator Matthew Drain.
The Australian understands Drain has been approached by new Demons chief executive Peter Jackson to head football at the struggling club, which is expected to make several key football department changes, including the replacement of senior coach Mark Neeld a year ahead of the expiration of his contract.
Drain, 44, has previously worked for Essendon, the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda at the top end, as either general manager of football operations, list manager or high-performance manager.
He worked alongside Kevin Sheedy at Windy Hill between 1999 and 2002 when Jackson was Bombers chief executive.
Jackson did not return calls from The Australian last night.
Drain, a former Victorian Sheffield Shield squad member, left Essendon to become high-performance manager of Cricket Australia, where he oversaw the development of a centre of excellence. Having played first-grade cricket for 13 years, he was also head coach of the Australian women's cricket team.
After leaving St Kilda several years ago, Drain sought a career change away from elite sport, working in law enforcement.
Should he accept the position with Melbourne, he would be ideally placed to renew his association with Rodney Eade, who is likely to be sounded out for the senior coaching role from next season.
Eade is currently a coaching strategist under Nathan Buckley at Collingwood, a position he has held since he coached the Bulldogs for seven years until the end of the 2011 season.
Drain and Eade had a close working relationship at the Whitten Oval for several years until Drain moved to St Kilda in 2008.
It is believed that Melbourne's current preference is to appoint a coach with previous experience at the elite level rather than a younger person who is presently an assistant coach at another club.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/experienced-administrator-matthew-drain-could-head-melbournes-football-department/story-fnca0u4y-1226660996530
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Please get Eade. Choco can stay a Tiger. :clapping
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ailing-dees-to-put-case-to-afl-commission-20130613-2o75z.html
Caro says before the end of the month.
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Dees board gone to AFL
Asked for package including extra draft pick s! :o
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I don't think they deserve extra draft picks after their tanking saga. But giving them money to pay out Neeld and to get their football department on the right path is understandable and good for the league in a competitive sense.
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Jack Watts.Poofter.
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If they get more picks I'll spew. They'll have pick 1 or 2 and have Hogan to come in. Stuff penalising every other club again after comprising the draft for years because of the expan$ion pets. Jam out up your bum, AFL.
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Looks like Neeld will outlast the current president McLardy ....just ;D
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DON McLardy has resigned as Melbourne president.
He informed the AFL Commission of his decision on Friday morning during a meeting he attended alongside new CEO Peter Jackson.
He then told the board that afternoon of his intention to resign.
Board member Peter Spargo has taken over as interim president.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-14/mclardy-melbourne
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so they get penalised for alleged tanking,and now get draft picks for being crap....something is very wrong somewhere I reckon
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so they get penalised for alleged tanking,and now get draft picks for being crap....something is very wrong somewhere I reckon
They've asked for a priority pick but haven't been given one.......yet ::)
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I really really hope they don't get any. Just because they're idiots doesn't mean they deserve draft picks, just get rid of the idiots. Let them build like we had to.
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Reckon they'll sack him today
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Reckon they'll sack him today
After a pee poor effort against the bye he's gone
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-17/neeld-out
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let the AFL handouts begin ;D
CYA
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Almost makes tonight's Footy Classified complusive viewing to see what nonsense Garry comes out with
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MARK Neeld has been sacked as Melbourne coach.
It was announced at a media conference on Monday morning, but CEO Peter Jackson said it was decided at last Friday's board meeting to part ways with the coach.
He said it was in both Neeld's and the club's best interests for the parting to come immediately.
Jackson said Neeld was only told at 8am on Monday.
Assistant coach Neil Craig will take over for the rest of the season.
Read more: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-17/neeld-out
Mark Neeld's coaching tenure in quotes: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-17/mark-neeld-in-quotes
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Almost makes tonight's Footy Classified complusive viewing to see what nonsense Garry comes out with
Picking Neeld has done tremendous damage to the club. They would of done better by sticking with Bailey.
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Neeld just made the easiest 500k he'll ever make. He'll have a holiday and will probably join Mick Malthouse at Carlton as a senior assistant coach being paid a decent salary again.
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Should be paid out of Lyon's pocket, since Neeld was his endorsement.
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SEN news saying Choco Williams is favoured to take on the Melbourne gig. I hope not.
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SEN news saying Choco Williams is favoured to take on the Melbourne gig. I hope not.
Choco was sacked by at a basket case in Port, where at the end of his tenure he didn't have the support of the board, they had no money and relied on AFL support to survive
Why would he or anyone for that matter want to go to the Dees when they are a worse basket case :huh
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Neeld just made the easiest 500k he'll ever make. He'll have a holiday and will probably join Mick Malthouse at Carlton as a senior assistant coach being paid a decent salary again.
Don't agree about an easy 500k, blokes probably suffered so much stress he's lost 10 yrs of his life.
As for joining milk at carton, I totally agree and think that would be a great move for him. Nice call
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I suppose the only way is up but who would take on that poo basket
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Jackstar. No doubt he's the man for the job.
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Ch 7 news said it's between Eade and Williams with AFL House favouring Eade to take over as Williams' messy exit from GWS will go against him at AFLHQ.
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Eade said on 360 he would talk to them if approached.
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EADE!!! EADE!!! EADE!!! EADE!!! EADE!!! EADE!!! EADE!!! EADE!!!
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Paul Roo's on On The Couch said he doesn't have the burning desire to coach like Rocket.
Rocket told Robbo on 360 he still has the burning desire to coach.
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Hope Choco tells em to blow it out their blurters. He's our wife now
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Or Gary Ayres. I've been impressed with what he has done at Port Melbourne. They could do a lot worse.
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Ayres is a gun coach .Melbourne would be absolutely crazy not to get him ;D
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His on footy classified.
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The media are pushing Chocco but Eade is the only one publicly saying he still has the fire in the belly to coach and would sit down and talk if asked to become senior coach again as tiger101 mentioned
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A lot of denial going on last night.
They had Neeld on Footy Classified and he was still defending every decision made as being the correct one. Problem is you can't go out and recruit old fringe players from other clubs such as Rodan, Pedersen, etc and claim your rebuilding the rebuild via youth. Then Neeld tried defending the floggings on the scoreboard by saying they "deliberately decided not to put numbers behind the ball".
Then we had Garry Lyon saying Gerard Healy should lead the sub-committee to appoint the new coach as he's very knowledgable in the media :huh3. Ummm Garry that's exactly why your club is in the mess it is. It's an old boys club with a 'messiah is going to come in and fix us' mentality. As Tiger supporters we can spot it because we use to be like that as a football club.
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If they get Gary Ayres maybe we can trade them Nahas :shh
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Then we had Garry Lyon saying Gerard Healy should lead the sub-committee to appoint the new coach as he's very knowledgable in the media :huh3. Ummm Garry that's exactly why your club is in the mess it is. It's an old boys club with a 'messiah is going to come in and fix us' mentality. As Tiger supporters we can spot it because we use to be like that as a football club.
This was the panel who selected Neeld.
Schwab, Lyon, McLardy and Jalland :lol No wonder they are in the poo they are currently in.
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they sound like donut flavours
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A lot of denial going on last night.
They had Neeld on Footy Classified and he was still defending every decision made as being the correct one. Problem is you can't go out and recruit old fringe players from other clubs such as Rodan, Pedersen, etc and claim your rebuilding the rebuild via youth. Then Neeld tried defending the floggings on the scoreboard by saying they "deliberately decided not to put numbers behind the ball".
Then we had Garry Lyon saying Gerard Healy should lead the sub-committee to appoint the new coach as he's very knowledgable in the media :huh3. Ummm Garry that's exactly why your club is in the mess it is. It's an old boys club with a 'messiah is going to come in and fix us' mentality. As Tiger supporters we can spot it because we use to be like that as a football club.
Neeld is an angry man in denial of his own faults. A terrible man manager who should never be put in a position of power again at a footy club. Assistant maybe but head coach even of some amateur club, no way. Some of the things he has said have been just terrible, no wonder the morale at Melbourne was so low, but it has been enjoyable laughing at the Dee's misfortune.
Maybe we can get a Demons Saints merger out of this. The Sinful Angels :D
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Well, it's looking like Roos is the Dee's number 1 target, and he is open to an offer. Great news if this happens. They deserve each other, and we get to hold onto Choco Williams a little while longer.
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If they get Gary Ayres maybe we can trade them Nahas :shh
Get it done Tiges :clapping