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VFL Round 1 2013
Coburg Tigers vs Sandringham
Sunday, 7th April @ Mantello Holden Oval in Coburg.
Development: 11:00 am
Seniors: 2:00 pm
Broadcast:
Radio: Aussie Digital & Vision Australia Radio
Internet: http://www.bpmmedia.com.au/
Apps: Red Time Sport iPhone App (http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/red-time/id435872838?mt=8) & SEN iPhone app
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There will be a lot of focus on which Richmond FC listed players will be available for Coburg, especially after such strong performances from so many players last week, which surely must have caught the eyes of Richmond selectors.
Sunday's match should also see the return of two prolific Coburg players - Clifton and Carnell, who were both absent for the majority of the pre-season. The inclusion of these players would be a massive boost for Coburg, particularly the passion and leadership that captain Nick Carnell brings to the table.
It should be a ripping game to start off the season, and there are sure to be many AFL listed players on show for both sides, so come along, cheer the burgers on and help us start 2013 in the best possible fashion!
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-16771085&sID=56260&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=22973671
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Coburg
Senior Team
B Verrier Darrou Griffiths
HB McIntosh Dea McDonough
C Knights Vlastuin O'Hanlon
HF McBean Elton Carnell
F Derickx A. Edwards Nahas
R Stephenson Helbig White
Int Robertella A. Saad Venditti Groves Williams Brandt N. Maric
Uysal Abdallah
From:
http://www.stuff.com/pages/Coburg-Football-Club/172400646148468
NB: Outside Nick Carnell the Coburg capt. no CFC listed blokes in the starting 1 and RFC bloke (Simon) playing for the Coburg Ressies
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No Simon?
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No Simon?
Simon has been named on a HFF for Coburg ressies.
B: Egglestone Boyd Groves
HB: Robertella Quinlan Dundon
C: Quinn Robinson Maric
HF: Simon Yelland Venditti
F: Brandt Sortino Fancellu
R: Dean Abdallah Uysal
Int: Linton Anderson Easton Loraine Iudica Keough Bean Ratcliffe Hogan
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NB: Outside Nick Carnell the Coburg capt. no CFC listed blokes in the starting 18 and no RFC blokes playing for the Coburg Ressies
Cheers OE, was just going off this ;D
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Nahas was a dominant VFL small forward before getting AFL development. Aaron Edwards is a gun at VFL level. If we get the ball their enough (which we should with the Big O) then we could kick a cricket score.
Or we could play Coburg footy and lose by 15 goals :whistle
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What's the Big O got to do with it. The midfielders got spoon fed last year and turned it over every time ;D But the names in the squad are a lot better this year ;D
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Matty Arnott ?' Lonergan, who else is missing ? Injured maybe ?
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Strong squad. Hopefully a sign of improved depth. Hope Helbig has a big game
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NB: Outside Nick Carnell the Coburg capt. no CFC listed blokes in the starting 18 and no RFC blokes playing for the Coburg Ressies
Cheers OE, was just going off this ;D
OOPS sorry corrected above ;D
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What's the Big O got to do with it. The midfielders got spoon fed last year and turned it over every time ;D But the names in the squad are a lot better this year ;D
Forgot about Beefy. Tbh didn't watch Coburg at all last year. They didn't really fill me with joy and excitement with the poo they dish up each year. ;D
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So obviously the 11/12 rule is not applying to us this season which is great. :clapping
I saw that the Doggies have had a falling out with Williamstown and can only play a max of 11 or 12 players.
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What's the Big O got to do with it. The midfielders got spoon fed last year and turned it over every time ;D But the names in the squad are a lot better this year ;D
Forgot about Beefy. Tbh didn't watch Coburg at all last year. They didn't really fill me with joy and excitement with the poo they dish up each year. ;D
coach only watches Coburg when they are on the ABC, then he just watches stats on sporting pulse. would have NFI who was being spoon fed apart from himself. :shh
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What's the Big O got to do with it. The midfielders got spoon fed last year and turned it over every time ;D But the names in the squad are a lot better this year ;D
Forgot about Beefy. Tbh didn't watch Coburg at all last year. They didn't really fill me with joy and excitement with the poo they dish up each year. ;D
coach only watches Coburg when they are on the ABC, then he just watches stats on sporting pulse. would have NFI who was being spoon fed apart from himself. :shh
Smokey gets the stats from SP, I get them from Tony Greenburg
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So obviously the 11/12 rule is not applying to us this season which is great. :clapping
I saw that the Doggies have had a falling out with Williamstown and can only play a max of 11 or 12 players.
The old 12/10 rule only ever applied against stand alone VFL sides eg Port, Frankston and now Bendigo.
What's going on at Willie is not the VFL rule it is Williamstown flexing it's muscle over the Doggies in the last year of its alignment
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Matt Arnot, where's he at?
Not injured again?
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Matt Arnot, where's he at?
Not injured again?
Must be or being rested
No news out of the RFC it seems
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Matt Arnot, where's he at?
Not injured again?
Giving Sandy a fighting chance. :shh
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If we ever have everyone fit. It will be an imposing reserve side with Foley and Arnot in the middle, plus astbury.
:thumbsup
Coburg
Senior Team
B Verrier Darrou Griffiths
HB McIntosh Dea McDonough
C Knights Vlastuin O'Hanlon
HF McBean Elton Carnell
F Derickx A. Edwards Nahas
R Stephenson Helbig White
Int Robertella A. Saad Venditti Groves Williams Brandt N. Maric
Uysal Abdallah
From:
http://www.stuff.com/pages/Coburg-Football-Club/172400646148468
NB: Outside Nick Carnell the Coburg capt. no CFC listed blokes in the starting 1 and RFC bloke (Simon) playing for the Coburg Ressies
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Matt Arnot, where's he at?
Not injured again?
1 week suspension
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Matt Arnot, where's he at?
Not injured again?
Suspended.
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Arnot suspended. You heard it hear first.
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Radio Coverage of Sunday's game of Coburg v Sandringham...
On analogue radio: For the first time in 2013, fans can listen to each Sunday game at the ground via Vision Australia Radio on 1179AM in Melbourne. Fans across Victoria will be able to listen to the coverage via Vision Australia Radio stations in Bendigo (88.7FM), Geelong (99.5 FM) Mildura (107.5FM), Shepparton (100.1FM), Warragul (93.5FM), Warrnambool (94.5FM) and Albury (101.7FM).
On your iPhone: Via the Red Time Sport iPhone app which you can download for free from the iTunes store.
On your digital Radio: Tune in each week on Aussie digital radio (SEN 2)
On the web: Via www.vfl.com.au or www.bpmmedia.com.au
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Arnot suspended. You heard it hear first.
Nah I reckon they read it here first ;D
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-05/richmond-flavour-for-coburg-season-opener
"Only Matthew Arnot – who will serve a one-match suspension after last weekend’s practice match – and injured trio Sam Lonergan (hamstring), Nathan Foley (Achilles) and David Astbury (foot), are missing this weekend."
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not on tv or radio?
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not on tv or radio?
Go back 2 posts Bents.
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whoo[s :-\
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You can also listen to the Vision Australia webcast: http://radio.visionaustralia.org/our-networks/melbourne
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have we got any trackwatchers down their with ipad in hand posting regular updates :shh
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have we got any trackwatchers down their with ipad in hand posting regular updates :shh
Well I was going up until 1.00pm but have a bit of family emergency that needs my attention here at home so I not going now
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Sandy got the first
Cob 0
Sandy 6
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McIntosh nice kick in board to Carnell. He kicks inside 50 and Derickx is held and gets the free. From 40m on an acute angle. Point.
Cob 1
Sandy 6
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Nahas showing why he was dropped last week. Two poor kicks inside the first 10 mins.
McIntosh doing well early.
Nick Maric inside 50 and finds McBean on the lead. Goal :gotigers
Cob 7
Sandy 6
10 mins Q1
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Goal to Kosi.
Cob 7
San 12
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Dea attacked the ball hard but dropped the mark in defence. Dennis-Lane with his 2nd.
Free to Sandy in front of the sticks but luckily they miss.
Cob 7
San 19
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Griffiths on Kosi.
Terrible footy by Coburg. Sidways handballs under pressure.
Finally get it forward with a bit of purpose. Saad hits up Az Edwards in the same possie as Derickx's shot. OOTF.
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Last 5 entries inside 50 have been blind kicks straight to Sandy defenders.
Vlastuin to Nahas in the pocket. Knights now back to Venditti on 50. Loads up but it drops short to the goalsquare and it's a free to #63 for a push. Elton it might be. Goal :gotigers
Cob 13
San 19
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Darrou on Tom Lee.
19 Richmond players playing today.
Nick Maric hits Az Edwards leading up the ground. Off to Maric on the run from 40m .... misses.
Cob 14
San 19
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McIntosh short to Venditti on HB. White now to Carnell 65m out. He plays on but the siren goes.
Quarter time
Coburg 2.2-14
Sandy 3.2-20
Goals: McBean, Elton
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Coburg had a poor period in the middle of the quarter when Sandy looked like scoring everytime they went forward so lucky to be just 6 pts down. Coburg had the better of the last 5-7 mins. McIntosh and Helbig would've had the ball at least a half-a-dozen times across half-back listening to the radio.
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Coburg with the breeze this qtr.
Free to O'Hanlon against Kosi. Finds Nahas who judged the flight better on 50m. Short to Knights. Goal :gotigers
Cob 20
San 20
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White inside 50 and Az Edwards marks out-stretched. Playing deeper now with the breeze. Goal :gotigers
Cob 26
San 20
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White in the centre across ground. Ends up with Carnell on 50m. Goal :gotigers
Cob 32
San 20
7 mins Q2
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McDonough a couple of blues in a minute. A kick turned over and then pinged for holding the ball in the backline. Dennis-Lane with 3 for Sandy.
Cob 32
San 26
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Sandy turn it over coming out of defence. Ends up with Mcbean. Goal :gotigers. He's got two.
Cob 38
San 26
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McBean gets his 3rd :gotigers. Showed good agility at ground level to break out of the tackle and spin on his left.
Cob 44
San 26
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Ump penalises Coburg as Derickx took the mark down field. The kick back up field is marked by Sandy and Matty White gives away 50m. Thankfully the shot into the breeze drops short.
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Thanks for the updates OE
Go the richmond resssies
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Saad finds Nahas off to Elton who bombs a point.
Cob 45
San 26
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Dennis-Lane with 4. The only Sandy forward who looks dangerous. Dea moved off him and Verrier now on him.
Cob 45
San 32
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Dennis-Lane again. Thankfully misses the set shot.
Cob 45
San 33
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Sandy getting on top in general play in the last 5 mins.
Big O good kick to White to Maric who copped a high one but no free. Sandy turn it over back to Big O. To Knights to Helbig on attacking 50m and Derickx marks in front in the pocket. The kick though is OOTF.
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50m to Sandy but the set shot is missed.
Cob 45
San 34
26 mins Q2
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Helbig from just outside 50m. Point.
Cob 46
San 34
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Sandy flooding.
O'Hanlon on 55m. Calls to have a shot. Launches and misses.
Cob 47
San 34
29 mins Q2
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Half-time
Coburg 2.2 7.5-47
Sandy 3.2 5.4-34
Goals: McBean 3, Elton, A.Edwards, Knights, Carnell
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Who's the best RFC listed player so far OE please?
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Highlight of the 2nd qtr was a two-year-old running on the ground and the ground announcer over the P.A. saying "please stay off the ground" :lol.
Hard to know the stats from the radio but Helbig, O'Hanlon, Knights, Nahas & White seems to be getting a fair bit of footy. Nahas a bit frustrated apparently according to the commentators as he's getting goal side of his opponent but the ball would carry with the breeze and roll out of bounds. McBean had a purple patch early on in that 2nd qtr. We're playing with 3 tall forwards by the sounds of it with McBean, A.Edwards, Derickx. Elton when mentioned has been across HF. Vlastuin's been mentioned a couple of times. In and under players can be overlooked by radio commentators so hard to tell his game properly. Darrou was praised by the commentators for peeling off to nullify the long kick for Sandy to Kosi. Griffs on Kosi btw and Kosi has done stuff all. Kosi was moved into the ruck/following roll in that quarter. Burger Nick Maric has probably been BOG.
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Knights = secret weapon.
Woah, Just wait till he plays in the seniors.
Look out all AFL clubs!
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I've got to head off.
You can listen to the radio coverage over the net here: http://streaming.gohosting.com.au/bpmmedia.m3u
If someone can update scores for the second half it would be much appreciated.
3rd qtr has started. Elton marks. Goal into the breeze :gotigers
Cob 53
San 34
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Thanks OE, yes MR T I agree... :thumbsup
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Do the updates WAT
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Dea goal :gotigers
Cob 60
San 35
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Do the updates WAT
It won't stream on my iPad or I would, I will keep trying.
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Edwards free and goal :gotigers
Cob 66
San 35
Okay I'm heading off now.
Windows media player plays the link.
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72 Cob
41 Sand
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Big blew going on, including the runner.
Cob 73
San 47
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Cob 73
San 48
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Btw A.Edwards with the last goal for Coburg. His third.
Thanks in advance for doing the updates WAT :thumbsup. I'm really heading off now.
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Cob 79
San 49
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Cob 85
San 49
Edwards has 4
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Doing a good job WAT :thumbsup
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Cob 86
San 55
25 gone in the 3rd!
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Good stuff WAT
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does anyone have the direct link to the stream?
stuffed if i can find it on either of the websites
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Doing a good job WAT :thumbsup
Hard work, watching the blues pies game, and the cats norf game and looking at the v8 super cars in between and listening to this.... ;D
Cob 93
San 67
Big goal from Griff..3 qtr time!
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does anyone have the direct link to the stream?
stuffed if i can find it on either of the websites
http://streaming.gohosting.com.au/bpmmedia.m3u
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Griff disposal down other than that goal.
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thanks WAT. :cheers
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Legend :thumbsup
Great to see the depth in action
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thanks WAT. :cheers
:thumbsup
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Last qtr underway!
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Cob 93
San 73
Raining.
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Elton mark outside 50...
goal.
coburg 26.
raining comming dowwn
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Cob 99
San 73
Elton goal
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Cob 105
San 73
Bean goal, 4 to Bean, 4 to Edwards and 4 to Elton....
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Cob 106
San 79
9 minutes gone
Belting down.
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Cob 107
San 79
McBean point
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Cob 113
San 79
Nahas goal,
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Cob 113
San 80
13 gone
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Some of your finest work WAT :bow :cheers
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Cob 113
San 82
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Cob 114
San 82
Edwards miss, dreadful conditions apparently!
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Cob 115
San 82
Players are being considered for the swim team at the next Olympics...swimming on the ground.
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Cob 115
San 82
Knights getting a bit of it!
22 gone
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helbig goal
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Cob 121
San 82
Goal Helbig!
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Cob 121
San 82
28 minutes gone
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White near BOG
McBean "great - moves well"
Darrou "pretty well at back"
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Cob 121
San 89
All over! Coburg win
White one of the best....
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Elton and in a couple of years McBean will be great support for Jack and Vicks going forward. Helbig/Knights is knocking on the door now as is Vlaustin.
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White near BOG
McBean "great - moves well"
Darrou "pretty well at back"
So that means he's near Knights for BOG.
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"Orren - bad"
"Knights - good"
"Derickx pretty good forward line"
"Helbig needs to get more of the ball"
Well done to the team :cheers
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Great win by coburg against one of the top fancies in the vfl. Must say when i listened to a clip of the coach Timmy Clarke i thought gee this is a pleasant change from the suburban nuffies we ve had n recent years....say clarke is the coach isnt he, its not cambo?
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Great win by coburg against one of the top fancies in the vfl. Must say when i listened to a clip of the coach Timmy Clarke i thought gee this is a pleasant change from the suburban nuffies we ve had n recent years....say clarke is the coach isnt he, its not cambo?
Yes, Tim Clarke is Coburg Coach for 2013 and is likely to be our VFL coach in 2014
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Just got back from a water soaked City Oval Coburg
McBean will be a superstar :thumbsup
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Thats great to hear, i couldnt believe he slipped through to us in the draft, talk a out a warehouse of talent down at coburg :shh
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Thats great to hear, i couldnt believe he slipped through to us in the draft, talk a out a warehouse of talent down at coburg :shh
Nah, we stuffed it. Should have taken Hannath or any other of the dozen better ruck prospects out there.
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From Coburg Twitter
@CoburgFC: BEST: Knights (41 disposals), Helbig (26 disposals), Stephenson (35 hitouts), Dea (1 goal 22 touches), Edwards... http://t.co/ieTXHsenAq
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who said helbig has to get more of the ball?
gee thats setting the bar high.
a ruckman with 35 tap outs is bad?
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Feel like a drowned rat,got absolutely soaked at coburg
Knights....great game..lovely delivery of the pill
Helbig...wins own ball,and then lets his opponents know all about it..tuff as nails.very good game
Oren..very good palming of the ball on occasions
Mcbean..this kid could develop into something special.clean hands .strong hard leads,and very good to brilliant below the knees for someone that tall.
Elton..very good after half time ,presented well
Tigga-hard tuff,good ball sense
Dea..cool calm and collected across half back.seems to be too good for this level now
White..ok battled hard
A edwards...very good one grab .runs hard on the lead..not so good once it hits the ground
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who said helbig has to get more of the ball?
gee thats setting the bar high.
a ruckman with 35 tap outs is bad?
Radio guy
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Is radio guy this middle aged dude in a blue shirt ,who kept talking non stop into his phone?
if it is pffftt
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who said helbig has to get more of the ball?
gee thats setting the bar high.
a ruckman with 35 tap outs is bad?
Radio guy
Those duds wasted half their time complaining about the weather and their accommodation......
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Is radio guy this middle aged dude in a blue shirt ,who kept talking non stop into his phone?
if it is pffftt
And what's wrong with being middle-aged >:(
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Absolutely nothing Ruanaidh,being one myself.I was just trying to describe the gentleman..Didnt mean anything about his look,rather the content of his description of the game
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How did young McDonough go?
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wasnt sure if this kid was macca.I think he was the one with the shaggy hair and red boots(LOL)
If it was him,then he was ok.I think he played off half back for some of the game.seems to have good skill,might lack a bit of leg speed though
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From Coburg Twitter
@CoburgFC: BEST: Knights (41 disposals), Helbig (26 disposals), Stephenson (35 hitouts), Dea (1 goal 22 touches), Edwards... http://t.co/ieTXHsenAq
Secret weapon is Knights. :shh
New nickname is Weapon! ;D
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Absolutely nothing Ruanaidh,being one myself.I was just trying to describe the gentleman..Didnt mean anything about his look,rather the content of his description of the game
:)
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Tigra ..you sure you wanna go with .....the weapon..lol
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wasnt sure if this kid was macca.I think he was the one with the shaggy hair and red boots(LOL)
If it was him,then he was ok.I think he played off half back for some of the game.seems to have good skill,might lack a bit of leg speed though
I reckon that sounds more like Williams....but I may be wrong.
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yeah possibly R.i havent seen some of these kids before and didnt have a record,so my apologies if i get them wrong
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Tigra ..you sure you wanna go with .....the weapon..lol
Why not? Better than the bumbers version and not a cheat nor is he sacked. ;D
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yeah possibly R.i havent seen some of these kids before and didnt have a record,so my apologies if i get them wrong
I wasn't there mate so indeed I may be wrong......no need to apologise in any case.
Isn't this board very Genteel these days.....It's amazing what success will do...... :cuddles
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yeah possibly R.i havent seen some of these kids before and didnt have a record,so my apologies if i get them wrong
I wasn't there mate so indeed I may be wrong......no need to apologise in any case.
Isn't this board very Genteel these days.....It's amazing what success will do...... :cuddles
Wait until we drop a game
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Chuck..bite your tongue..sheesh.. :shh
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yeah possibly R.i havent seen some of these kids before and didnt have a record,so my apologies if i get them wrong
I wasn't there mate so indeed I may be wrong......no need to apologise in any case.
Isn't this board very Genteel these days.....It's amazing what success will do...... :cuddles
Wait until we drop a game
oh, i'm sure some are just sweating on it.
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2013 Peter Jackson VFL
Coburg Tigers 2.2 7.5 14.9 18.13 (121)
Sandringham 3.2 5.4 10.7 13.11 (89)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: McBean 4 Edwards 4 Elton 3 Dea Nahas Helbig Carnell Saad Knights Griffiths
Sandringham: Dennis-Lane 5 Koschitzke 2 Curren 2 Lee 2 Saunders Cook
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Knights Helbig Stephenson Dea Edwards Nahas
Sandringham: Curren Simpkin Dennis-Lane Dunell Cockie Wright
2013 AFL Victoria Development League
Coburg Tigers 1.1 6.4 8.5 14.7 (91)
Sandringham 5.4 7.6 13.10 17.14 (116)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Anderson 2 Uysal 2 Ratcliffe 2 Linton Loraine Fancellu Yelland Sortino Dean Spagnolo Abdallah Keogh
Sandringham: Kreymborg 6 Widdowson 3 Barnhoorn 2 Fallon 2 Dowler 2 Cameron Maley
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Egglestone Robertella Anderson Abdallah Keogh Dean Spagnolo
Sandringham: Kreymborg Ong Maley Persson Zijai Fallon
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v5/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=4138&pg=1&a=MR
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Knock Knock knocking on Dimma's doooooooooooorrrrrr
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Great result
Flossy and biccie this week??
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Dennis-Lane kicked 5 on Matthew Dea!
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Dennis-Lane kicked 5 on Matthew Dea!
Not true. He kicked 4 goals on McDonough. I was at the game and Dea played well with impressive composure, skill and toughness. Shut Dennis-Lane down when he was moved onto him. Dea should be in the Richmond team for Batch.
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yeah possibly R.i havent seen some of these kids before and didnt have a record,so my apologies if i get them wrong
I wasn't there mate so indeed I may be wrong......no need to apologise in any case.
Isn't this board very Genteel these days.....It's amazing what success will do...... :cuddles
Wait until we drop a game
:lol
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Thats great to hear, i couldnt believe he slipped through to us in the draft, talk a out a warehouse of talent down at coburg :shh
Nah, we stuffed it. Should have taken Hannath or any other of the dozen better ruck prospects out there.
Bloody hell how precious can one get?
YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Hmm did Mcbean play ruck today? Whats that i hear? no. What does he look more like? A ruckman or a kpp?. What does his body shape look more like ruck or kpp.
My criticism was we used a good pick to get a so called ruckman when it was more likely he was a kpp. My opinion was he was more likely a kpd. Reckon nothing has changed.
Lets have this debate when he actually becomes a top notch first ruckman in 6 yrs time eh. After all thats what we recruited him for.
Oh while we are being facetious. Where is mcintosh being played? Wheres that i hear ? hb :o but hes a genuine mid isnt he.
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Dea should be in the Richmond team for Batch.
No problem with that from me. Same height, bigger body, harder at it, in decent form.
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Thats great to hear, i couldnt believe he slipped through to us in the draft, talk a out a warehouse of talent down at coburg :shh
Nah, we stuffed it. Should have taken Hannath or any other of the dozen better ruck prospects out there.
Bloody hell how precious can one get?
YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Hmm did Mcbean play ruck today? Whats that i hear? no. What does he look more like? A ruckman or a kpp?. What does his body shape look more like ruck or kpp.
My criticism was we used a good pick to get a so called ruckman when it was more likely he was a kpp. My opinion was he was more likely a kpd. Reckon nothing has changed.
Lets have this debate when he actually becomes a top notch first ruckman in 6 yrs time eh. After all thats what we recruited him for.
Oh while we are being facetious. Where is mcintosh being played? Wheres that i hear ? hb :o but hes a genuine mid isnt he.
good night sleep well
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Maybe Hartley and co will try and line up another ruckman under free agency. Why draft one when you can pinch one for free?
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who ever said mctosh was a "genuine" mid, whatever the stuff th
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who ever said macintosh was a "genuine" mid, whatever the stuff that is anyway?
Is a genuine mid someone defined as someone who plays that as a junior, coz that would have made adam maric one?
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i hear ya Al
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YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Why would/should we have taken Hannath when we had already identified and taken McBean with an earlier pick? Maybe the club didn't rate Hannath and/or see the need for yet another ruckman?
Hmm did Mcbean play ruck today? Whats that i hear? no.
Wow, you're perceptive. I'm glad he didn't play ruck. We have 2 backup options who are older, more experienced, bigger bodied and need to be more ready to 'go' at the senior level if needed so I would be cranky at the club if they were blooding McBean at this infantile stage of his development to the detriment of the club as a whole. But if you think we need to stack our list this year with more ruckmen then fill your boots.
What does he look more like? A ruckman or a kpp?. What does his body shape look more like ruck or kpp.
My criticism was we used a good pick to get a so called ruckman when it was more likely he was a kpp. My opinion was he was more likely a kpd. Reckon nothing has changed.
Der. He looks most like a very young ruckman who needs to fill out and learn many things on his football journey and I don't think throwing him into the ruck at VFL senior level in his first open age season against many battle-hardened bodies would necessarily be the smartest thing for his development. And just a refresher on FJ's comments at draft time:
“Liam has played the last two years as a forward/ruckman with the Calder Cannons, combining his time with school football commitments at St Bernard's College,” said Richmond Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson.
“He is a highly rated young developing ruckman who has also been a member of the AFL AIS Academy in 2011 and 2012.”
“Liam's strengths are his abilities to read the flow of the game and get to many contests with his running ability.
“His overhead ruckwork is very good, but his standout feature is his ability to play as an extra midfielder on the ground, making good decisions with the football and damaging with his possessions.
“Liam is an excellent user of the ball by foot and is a big man who we genuinely want to have the ball in his hands due to his creativity and efficiency.
“He will be given very chance to develop into the versatile tall at AFL level we think he can be, and will be pushing for his chance in the next few years.”
But no, I'm sure you're right and the club are wrong, they didn't draft him as a ruckman.
Lets have this debate when he actually becomes a top notch first ruckman in 6 yrs time eh. After all thats what we recruited him for.
Sure, happy to. Your point ?
Oh while we are being facetious. Where is mcintosh being played? Wheres that i hear ? hb :o but hes a genuine mid isnt he.
Apart from the obvious response that you appear to do a lot of talking to yourself, a midfielder learning the defensive side of his craft in his formative years at half back? Unheard of. Oh, and Brett Deledio says hi.
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Maybe Hartley and co will try and line up another ruckman under free agency. Why draft one when you can pinch one for free?
I'm very confident that's where we're headed Ramps but grasping the intelligence of that concept might be beyond some.
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Richmond young players impress in the VFL
James Hunter-Smith
From: Herald Sun
April 07, 2013 9:29PM
ONLY days after Richmond coach Damian Hardwick lauded the depth of his side, the players vying for senior selection proved their worth in VFL-affiliate Coburg's 32-point win over Sandringham.
It was a mix of youth and experience which inspired the Tigers to victory, the final score reading 18.13 (121) to 13.11 (89).
Ex-Adelaide forward Chris Knights had 41 disposals - 19 of them contested.
Aaron Edwards, who was traded to Richmond after 78 games at North Melbourne, booted four goals and had 17 disposals.
"It was a pretty good all-round effort today with probably four or five guys really standing up,'' Coburg coach Tim Clarke said.
"Chris (Knights) continued to work throughout the day and ended up with over 40 touches, and his work rate was terrific."
The dangerous pair handed the Tigers their first lead of the match early in the second term after trading goals, Knights kicking truly on the tightest of angles.
Youngster Liam McBean, drafted at No.31 by Richmond last year, was also superb up forward finishing with four goals including two consecutive majors in the dying stages of the first half.
Robin Nahas (22 disposals), Matt White (26) and young gun Nick Vlastuin (16) were also lively.
Clarke agreed with the sentiments that Richmonds current depth is a huge benefit for the VFL affiliate.
"Were in a really strong position in that the 18 guys who came down (from Richmond) were in our best 22," Clarke said.
"Its not a preference that theyre on Richmonds list. If theyre in our best 22 well play them."
For Sandringham new Saint Trent Dennis-Lane kicked five goals.
The former Swan bagged four in the first half and was a dangerous target up forward.
Rookie-listed Saint Tom Curren was superb for Sandringham, finishing with 24 touches and two goals.
His second came after a third quarter scuffle saw him awarded with a 100m penalty.
Youngsters Sebastian Ross (19 disposals, 12 kicks) and Tom Ledger (17) were also dangerous.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-young-players-impress-in-the-vfl/story-e6frf9mx-1226614450796
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Thats great to hear, i couldnt believe he slipped through to us in the draft, talk a out a warehouse of talent down at coburg :shh
Nah, we stuffed it. Should have taken Hannath or any other of the dozen better ruck prospects out there.
Bloody hell how precious can one get?
YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Hmm did Mcbean play ruck today? Whats that i hear? no. What does he look more like? A ruckman or a kpp?. What does his body shape look more like ruck or kpp.
My criticism was we used a good pick to get a so called ruckman when it was more likely he was a kpp. My opinion was he was more likely a kpd. Reckon nothing has changed.
Lets have this debate when he actually becomes a top notch first ruckman in 6 yrs time eh. After all thats what we recruited him for.
Oh while we are being facetious. Where is mcintosh being played? Wheres that i hear ? hb :o but hes a genuine mid isnt he.
Wo the heck is hannath, oooh i get your little game, ooh boy whoa yeah, we shoulda swapped the pick for jack watts :whistle.... :wallywink
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Thats great to hear, i couldnt believe he slipped through to us in the draft, talk a out a warehouse of talent down at coburg :shh
Nah, we stuffed it. Should have taken Hannath or any other of the dozen better ruck prospects out there.
Bloody hell how precious can one get?
YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Hmm did Mcbean play ruck today? Whats that i hear? no. What does he look more like? A ruckman or a kpp?. What does his body shape look more like ruck or kpp.
My criticism was we used a good pick to get a so called ruckman when it was more likely he was a kpp. My opinion was he was more likely a kpd. Reckon nothing has changed.
Lets have this debate when he actually becomes a top notch first ruckman in 6 yrs time eh. After all thats what we recruited him for.
Oh while we are being facetious. Where is mcintosh being played? Wheres that i hear ? hb :o but hes a genuine mid isnt he.
WoW,Never seen so much dribble written.Oops i have.On BF.Oh wait,Hows things in BF going Claw? :lol :lol :lol
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Round 1 - Match Report - vs Sandringham Zebras
Coburg website
Monday, April 8, 2013
Coburg got their 2013 season off to the best possible start at Mantello Holden Oval on Sunday, defeating the Zebras 18.13.121 to 13.11.89 by 32 points.
The game started off as a very tightly contested matchup, with both teams showing great pressure and endeavour, clearly wanting to start off the season with a crucial 4 points. The Zebra's had the better of the term, kicking 3 goals to Coburg's 2, going in to the break 6 points up.
Coburg however came out looking a new unit in the second, taking control of the centre bounces through Orren Stephenson (35 hitouts), and getting first use of the ball more often than not. The Tigers used this to their advantage, kicking 5 goals to 2 for the quarter and going in to the main break 13 points clear. Richmond listed players Chris Knight's and Robin Nahas lead the way in the first half, with Knights wracking up 24 disposals and Nahas always looking dangerous, setting up a few goals with his run and pinpoint passing. Liam McBean also ended the half with 3 goals, providing a strong target in the forward half, and finishing with great accuracy.
The second half started in a similar fashion, with Coburg dominant through the middle and cleaner with the ball when it mattered most. Aaron Edwards came to life in the third, kicking 3 goals, with Elton and McBean also looking dangerous, helped out by some efficient delivery from the midfield group. The end of the quarter saw Coburg go in to the final change 25 points up, with the clouds looking likely to produce some heavy rain before the day was out.
Sure enough, mid way through the last quarter the rain came bucketing down, making ball use difficult for both sides, and giving the crowd some pure wet weather footy to spectate. The change in weather seemed to send a new-found spark in to the game, with tempers flaring to boiling point at one stage, seeing players from both teams getting involved in a boundary line scuff. The conflcit was soon resolved however, and Coburg didn't let it affect their play, getting on with the game and closing out the match victorious by 32 points.
Chris Knights didn't stop all day, collecting 41 touches with around half of those being contested - stating once again to Richmond selectors that he is ready to break in to the AFL squad. He was supported by impressive performances in the middle from Helbig and Venditti, With Dea also showing class running out of the back line all day. The wide spread of goal kickers for Coburg was also an impressive factor, showing that the squad will have quite a lot of depth for the coming season.
Coburg: 18.13.121
Sandringham: 13.11.89
Goals: Edwards, McBean 4, Elton 3, Helbig, Nahas, Carnell, Knights, Griffiths, Dea, Saad 1.
Best: Knights, Helbig, Stephenson, Dea, Edwards, Nahas.
The Development squad unfortunately went down earlier in the day by 25 points to the Sandringham side. They did show quite a lot of fight however, bringing the margin back from a larger deficit after half time. Abdallah, Keogh, Robortella and Anderson were amongst the best.
Round 2 will see Coburg face off against Williamstown next Saturday at 1pm. The game will be played at Burbank Oval.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-16771085&sID=56260&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=23063648
Match report on the RFC website here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-08/tigers-star-in-first-round-coburg-win
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YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Why would/should we have taken Hannath when we had already identified and taken McBean with an earlier pick? Maybe the club didn't rate Hannath and/or see the need for yet another ruckman?
So you expect Derickx to come in if Maric is rested?
After all Hannath was overlooked at the PSD BEFORE Stephenson was taken in the rookie at pick 33.
After all Derickx was played last year before Graham, kept on the list over Browne, has been on the list for two years over Giles, is on the senior list before Stephenson.
Don't think anyone really expects McBean to play ruck in his first AFL season but Derickx is the next choice ruck after Maric and Vickery.
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YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Why would/should we have taken Hannath when we had already identified and taken McBean with an earlier pick? Maybe the club didn't rate Hannath and/or see the need for yet another ruckman?
So you expect Derickx to come in if Maric is rested?
After all Hannath was overlooked at the PSD BEFORE Stephenson was taken in the rookie at pick 33.
After all Derickx was played last year before Graham, kept on the list over Browne, has been on the list for two years over Giles, is on the senior list before Stephenson.
Don't think anyone really expects McBean to play ruck in his first AFL season but Derickx is the next choice ruck after Maric and Vickery.
negative on that one mate.
Big O is streets ahead of Derickx
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YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Why would/should we have taken Hannath when we had already identified and taken McBean with an earlier pick? Maybe the club didn't rate Hannath and/or see the need for yet another ruckman?
So you expect Derickx to come in if Maric is rested?
After all Hannath was overlooked at the PSD BEFORE Stephenson was taken in the rookie at pick 33.
After all Derickx was played last year before Graham, kept on the list over Browne, has been on the list for two years over Giles, is on the senior list before Stephenson.
Don't think anyone really expects McBean to play ruck in his first AFL season but Derickx is the next choice ruck after Maric and Vickery.
I don't know who they will play but my gut feel without seeing a Coburg game would be Stephenson. Even though Derickx played before Graham last season I think that was as much to do with giving him a run to see what he had to offer because Graham's VFL form was certainly much better than Derickx's. This year I think it might be different in that they already know to an extent what they will (or won't) get with Derickx and that's why they got Stephenson - as an upgrade option on Graham (rightly or wrongly Coach ;D ). I reckon unless he shows serious improvement this year then Derickx is gone at season's end and we might see a much more serious upgrade attempt on Stephenson via Free Agency - enough to put some pressure on Maric's spot, if not take it. McBean will be given plenty of time to develop and I don't think they will ruck him much at all for the major part of this year while he grows into his body.
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YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Why would/should we have taken Hannath when we had already identified and taken McBean with an earlier pick? Maybe the club didn't rate Hannath and/or see the need for yet another ruckman?
So you expect Derickx to come in if Maric is rested?
After all Hannath was overlooked at the PSD BEFORE Stephenson was taken in the rookie at pick 33.
After all Derickx was played last year before Graham, kept on the list over Browne, has been on the list for two years over Giles, is on the senior list before Stephenson.
Don't think anyone really expects McBean to play ruck in his first AFL season but Derickx is the next choice ruck after Maric and Vickery.
that's why they got Stephenson - as an upgrade option on Graham (rightly or wrongly Coach ;D ).
Don't poke the bear. :shh
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Both Graham and Orren are limited. For mine Orren is an upgrade despite being older given the fact he has ticker.
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Both Graham and Orren are limited. For mine Orren is an upgrade despite being older given the fact he has ticker.
Now you've gone and done it. I'm outta here before Coach arrives. :help
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YES WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HANNATH OR SIMILAR, and there was a couple. Dont kid yourself we need needed to do more to address the ruck situation.
Where abouts in the draft did i say we should take Hannath? Oh yeah late nd or psd.
Why would/should we have taken Hannath when we had already identified and taken McBean with an earlier pick? Maybe the club didn't rate Hannath and/or see the need for yet another ruckman?
So you expect Derickx to come in if Maric is rested?
After all Hannath was overlooked at the PSD BEFORE Stephenson was taken in the rookie at pick 33.
After all Derickx was played last year before Graham, kept on the list over Browne, has been on the list for two years over Giles, is on the senior list before Stephenson.
Don't think anyone really expects McBean to play ruck in his first AFL season but Derickx is the next choice ruck after Maric and Vickery.
that's why they got Stephenson - as an upgrade option on Graham (rightly or wrongly Coach ;D ).
Don't poke the bear. :shh
no need to worry, the Basij have made the bear disappear.
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Yes the bear is now a rug in front of someone's fireplace
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:lol
And we all know what happens on fireplace rugs don't we! :whistle
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Both Graham and Orren are limited. For mine Orren is an upgrade despite being older given the fact he has ticker.
Personally I prefer masala - both a best cooked as chicken - but not sure what cooking Indian has to do with the big o getting a senior game :huh
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Yes the bear is now a rug in front of someone's fireplace
how about taking your gimp suit off and unblocking PMs?
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Yes the bear is now a rug in front of someone's fireplace
how about taking your gimp suit off and unblocking PMs?
oops, left it on after all the threatening abuse i was copping from the danny frawley/rory hilton threads
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VIDEO: Coburg match highlights
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-09/coburg-r1-match-highlights
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Elton is very close to a call up.
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Elton is exciting. Big boy.
Short term I'd like to see him given mcgaune post ion.
Long term riewoldt / vickery / Elton / mcbean / Griffiths is a stronger tall forward group than we have had historically. Last three.decade.
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McBean was very impressive from the Highlights. Takes a great grab and very clean kicking. Looks very agile and skilled. Just needs time to gain size now. :thumbsup
Knights should get a call up asap. He must be hoping a midfielder has an off game this week. :whistle
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During sundays game .A coburg player had the ball ,either from a free or mark. he handballed it sideways to where Griff was standing and he unloaded from around 60 meters out and the ball just sailed through for a goal.What caught my attention was that he seemingly exerted minimal effort.I would imagine if he decided to really thump it,it would have landed on Bell st.
This sort of scoreboard pressure is priceless,thats why i think longterm he has to be given a chance up forward
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During sundays game .A coburg player had the ball ,either from a free or mark. he handballed it sideways to where Griff was standing and he unloaded from around 60 meters out and the ball just sailed through for a goal.What caught my attention was that he seemingly exerted minimal effort.I would imagine if he decided to really thump it,it would have landed on Bell st.
This sort of scoreboard pressure is priceless,thats why i think longterm he has to be given a chance up forward
Got my vote. :thumbsup
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Legend :thumbsup
Great to see the depth in action
Richmonds depth...or our moderator depth :shh
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Whoa Elton was impressive, love to see him in the seniors soon :shh
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Coburg Report: Round 1
1:21pm AEST Wednesday, April 10, 2013
Coburg coach, Tim Clarke, provides his exclusive summary of how the Richmond-listed players performed at VFL level in last Sunday’s season-opening win against Sandringham.
Full article at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-10/coburg-report-round-1