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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 17, 2013, 04:09:58 AM
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Collingwood topped Richmond legend ‘Captain Blood' Jack Dyer's hate list
Daryl Timms
From: Herald Sun
April 17, 2013
LEGENDARY Richmond player Jack 'Captain Blood' Dyer hated Collingwood like no other Tiger.
Dyer was the most famous and feared Tiger of them all.His hatred for Collingwood was genuine.
"It is a blind, unreasoning hatred, but not really difficult to understand,'' he wrote in his book - Captain Blood - in 1965.
"You hate a mean man, grasping man, a man who wants everything and gives nothing. That's Collingwood. They are a law unto themselves.
"If they win they gloat. If they lose they sulk.''
Dyer said the Magpies did have some qualities, but it didn't compensate for their mean, nasty and petty weaknesses.
It was with a certain amount malice that he recalled an incident in 1936 when Collingwood's gentleman star, full forward Gordon "Nuts" Coventry, appeared on the ground with heavy bandages on the back of his neck to conceal "large, angry boils."
Tiger stuff Joe Murdoch wasn't fussy about the way he beat an opponent and at the first opportunity he punched at the ball, missed and hit Coventry on the boils.
Dyer said with the first punch he'd seen Coventry throw, Murdoch went down for the count and "Nuts'' was reported.
The Magpies needed Coventry for the finals and a club official offered Murdoch 100 pounds - a huge sum at the time - to tell the truth at the tribunal that he had deliberately hit him on the boils.
"Murdoch flatly refused,'' Dyer said.
"He hated Collingwood as much as I did."
Coventry was suspended for eight game and missed Collingwood's premiership.
Dyer, captain coach from 1941-49 and coach in 1950-52, said Collingwood would turn off the hot water in the visitors' rooms if the Magpies lost.
He said when Collingwood offered the opposition a beer after the game it would be warm and the players wouldn't drink it because they were were scared about what was in the glass.
Dyer, who later became a legendary media commentator, died in 2003.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-topped-richmond-legend-captain-blood-jack-dyers-hate-list/story-e6frf9mx-1226621941269
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:lol
Gotta luv the Blood! :clapping
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That's why Number 17 means so much to so many ;)
But I'll leave it at that ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOwSUb-5Q0k
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You could even buy a Garden Gnome of him
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Have to say his auto-biography (which is where the quotes in the article come I think) is bloody good read :thumbsup
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That's why Number 17 means so much to so many ;)
But I'll leave it at that ;D
Why is it a 9 year not 90 year tradition then :shh
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I can still remember him on World of Sport saying he hated Collingwood so much he refused to watch black and white movies!!!! Lol!
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That's why Number 17 means so much to so many ;)
But I'll leave it at that ;D
Why is it a 9 year not 90 year tradition then :shh
Gee I dont' know maybe becasue the concept was only thought of and bought in 9 years ago. ::)
Anything you want to do to make or create a tradition has to have a start date doesn't it?
I asked this once before and no one bothered to answer.
Lets's take 2 "traditions"
First one the Green Jacket at Augusta is a good one seeing it's topical this week, it's been around for 70+ odd years but it had to start somewhere. So at what point from when it started did it become tradition? After 1yr, 5, 10, 20? We (the public) accept its "tradition" because it is what we've always known but it had to have a starting point
2nd one presentation of the Baggy Green Caps to Aussie Test players. This is considered a tradition but the "ceremonial" presentation by a former test great has only been happening in the last 5-8 years. Is this tradtion? And if it is when did it become one? Why are more accepting of that seeing it's only be going on for short time less & than the RFC Capt wearing no. 17?
I have no problem with people saying the Captain of the RFC shouldn't have to wear number 17, clearly my view is very different. But to use the excuse that it really isn't a "tradition" because it's only been around for a short time and therefore isn't a "tradition" is flawed IMHO
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it's not a tradition, pretty sure the captain wears #9
move on
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Cricket is boring. Are we ever going to win something? Didn't even know that was a tradition. :lol
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/324330937120858113/photo/1
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it's not a tradition, pretty sure the captain wears #9
move on
I just can't
Obviously :rollin
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I want to forget the last 9 years...pretty excited about the next 9
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I want to forget the last 9 years...pretty excited about the next 9
Why alot of good things have happened in that time?
Look at the calibre of player we have drafted over the last 9 years
Deledio
Cotchin
Martin
Reiwoldt
Just to name 4, want to forget the last 9 years, then we don't have them ;D
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I want to forget the last 9 years...pretty excited about the next 9
Why alot of good things have happened in that time?
Look at the calibre of player we have drafted over the last 9 years
Deledio
Cotchin
Martin
Reiwoldt
Just to name 4, want to forget the last 9 years, then we don't have them ;D
Deledio, Cotchin and Martin are fantastic players, not a day goes by that I don't thank the " footy gods" we have that magnificent trio...
However the facts are they were a "special reward" for being so completely useless for almost a decade.
The pain of having to go through the process of rebuilding the rebuild ....that's what I think of when I remember the era of captains wearing the number 17.
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They were not a special time. We got ducked over so many times.
Several times we should have had higher pick ie. Finishing lower and we still shafted by the cartoons and Melbourne and AFL priory picks.
The Johnson trade we for ripped out with our pik turning into pick 2 after we had traded.
We we were at our crappiest the AFL made new clubs meaning we misses out of our rightful talent.
The football gods put rixho into the fence he he was on the verge of being Carey like. We lost our only a grader pre2004. To injury. Cogs.
When we were 7-2 brown #1 player in AFL at that time we lost never to return to that level.
Going thou this and rebuilding via 2004 draft means our beat players are young. And our young players outside the 22 are talented. We got no help. Don't get interstate salary cap increase or a gun fs
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The pain of having to go through the process of rebuilding the rebuild ....that's what I think of when I remember the era of captains wearing the number 17.
What I remember of it is everyone person given the honour of captaining our club in last 9 years embraced it for the betterment of the club
It is my belief if the current captain had of chosen to wear number 17 and embraced the "tradition" the club wanted to create then so many more people would have embraced it too
As I said I have a view that not many people on here share and that's fine. Alot of my other Tiger friends agree with me and that's fine too
My final comment on this topic is this: we have the perfect bloke captaining our club and I don't think many on here would disagree with me there. It is simply a case of he has made a decision I don't agree with for a number of reason and I've listed them previously. Nothing wrong with that I hope :thumbsup :thumbsup
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I reckon all the parents who forked out quite a bit of hard earned for their kids to wear guernsies with no. 9 on the back would be quite happy with trents decision, something i think he may have said played a part in his decision.
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I reckon all the parents who forked out quite a bit of hard earned for their kids to wear guernsies with no. 9 on the back would be quite happy with trents decision, something i think he may have said played a part in his decision.
He did indeed say that :thumbsup
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I reckon all the parents who forked out quite a bit of hard earned for their kids to wear guernsies with no. 9 on the back would be quite happy with trents decision, something i think he may have said played a part in his decision.
He did indeed say that :thumbsup
and no. 9 might be a bit of a tradition to him, I know I hate wearing a different number :thumbsup . Nothing we can do and all entitled to our opinions only Cotchin's is the only one that matters. FWIW a mate of mine told me he lost a lot of respect for Cotch when he chose 9, although he thought the 17 went for ALOT longer than it did