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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on April 22, 2013, 08:17:53 AM
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Our Captain is this weeks guest on "On the Couch" this week
Fox Footy have been advertising it all weekend ;D
If you have Foxtel it's on at 8.30 EST
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Should be practising hitting targets.
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Was probably his worst game in 2 years on saturday. Every time he got the ball turned it over, and think it happend 2-3 times where there was a man free up the line and he was casually walking/facing the other direction after taking the mark.
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Was probably his worst game in 2 years on saturday. Every time he got the ball turned it over, and think it happend 2-3 times where there was a man free up the line and he was casually walking/facing the other direction after taking the mark.
It will be interesting to see if they mention it
and BTW I agree thought he was poor on the weekend. The other thing he did a few times was shoot off a little dinky handball when he should have kicked it up the line out of the congestion towards the boundary line
But we are all allowed "off" days :thumbsup
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But we are all allowed "off" days :thumbsup
He's not.
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But we are all allowed "off" days :thumbsup
He's not.
;D ;D
he is and considering he hasn't copped it as much as Lids has I reckon he's been excused :rollin :lol
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Not able to watch it but have IQd it
But seems to be alot of love for Cotch on twitter ;D
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
What were they thinking!
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
Potbellies have nothing to do with training. Their song is on The Jeep adds.
How about train well and don't read the hype conduct intervies for everyone and let the footy that got us to the big game do the talking when playing the big game.
That might help also. :thumbsup
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
Potbellies have nothing to do with training. Their song is on The Jeep adds.
How about train well and don't read the hype conduct intervies for everyone and let the footy that got us to the big game do the talking when playing the big game.
That might help also. :thumbsup
Did you watch it? He said the leadership group got together today and agreed that training last week was not at the level it had been the week before. The final training session last week was a light one and full carnival atmosphere complete with live tunes (regardless whether it was to do with the sponsors or not). No two ways about it. You won't see any of that crap at Essendon's or Collingwood's training this week.
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
Potbellies have nothing to do with training. Their song is on The Jeep adds.
How about train well and don't read the hype conduct intervies for everyone and let the footy that got us to the big game do the talking when playing the big game.
That might help also. :thumbsup
:clapping :clapping
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
Potbellies have nothing to do with training. Their song is on The Jeep adds.
How about train well and don't read the hype conduct intervies for everyone and let the footy that got us to the big game do the talking when playing the big game.
That might help also. :thumbsup
Did you watch it? He said the leadership group got together today and agreed that training last week was not at the level it had been the week before. The final training session last week was a light one and full carnival atmosphere complete with live tunes (regardless whether it was to do with the sponsors or not). No two ways about it. You won't see any of that crap at Essendon's or Collingwood's training this week.
Potbellies playing pre game on Saturday didn't Dwaino. :thumbsup
Club will live and learn and shouldn't make the same pre game big game errors again media wise.
As for training well the old adage states you play the same way you train. :shh
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Should be practising hitting targets.
As opposed to medianwhore danielnjackson?
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
Potbellies have nothing to do with training. Their song is on The Jeep adds.
How about train well and don't read the hype conduct intervies for everyone and let the footy that got us to the big game do the talking when playing the big game.
That might help also. :thumbsup
Did you watch it? He said the leadership group got together today and agreed that training last week was not at the level it had been the week before. The final training session last week was a light one and full carnival atmosphere complete with live tunes (regardless whether it was to do with the sponsors or not). No two ways about it. You won't see any of that crap at Essendon's or Collingwood's training this week.
Potbellies playing pre game on Saturday didn't Dwaino. :thumbsup
Club will live and learn and shouldn't make the same pre game big game errors again media wise.
As for training well the old adage states you play the same way you train. :shh
Point completely missed, but glad to see you understand and agreed with what I said in the rest of it. :thumbsup
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Mentioned they didn't train as well going into the round. Maybe next time no crap gimmicks like Potbellies.
Potbellies have nothing to do with training. Their song is on The Jeep adds.
How about train well and don't read the hype conduct intervies for everyone and let the footy that got us to the big game do the talking when playing the big game.
That might help also. :thumbsup
Did you watch it? He said the leadership group got together today and agreed that training last week was not at the level it had been the week before. The final training session last week was a light one and full carnival atmosphere complete with live tunes (regardless whether it was to do with the sponsors or not). No two ways about it. You won't see any of that crap at Essendon's or Collingwood's training this week.
Potbellies playing pre game on Saturday didn't Dwaino. :thumbsup
Club will live and learn and shouldn't make the same pre game big game errors again media wise.
As for training well the old adage states you play the same way you train. :shh
Point completely missed, but glad to see you understand and agreed with what I said in the rest of it. :thumbsup
All good pal. :thumbsup
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For those without Pay TV what else did they ask Cotch about and what did he say?
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Asked about lessons learned, said the standards leading into the game weren't as good as previous.
Gerard Healy says that it staggers him training standards were low in such a big week. Cotchin said probably a hindsight thing.
Asked if coach was angry, Cotchin said no, didn't dominate the areas they wanted to and have reviewed.
Asked how they work out who plays on Swan and Pendlebury. Said he was going to have Pendlebury at stoppage, Pendlebury went to him and Delideo and threw spanner in works. Delideo was to go with Swan. Felt at half time they were going ok.
Showed some footage of Collingwood spread and how well they do it. Cotchin called it rolling the dice, backing guys to win footy and running forward.
Another bit of footage, Cotchin and Swan together at bounce, then Swan loses him and gets touches. Asked if Swan is one of the hardest runners, Cotchin said he is smart and knows the space to go to and sometimes doesn't chase. Feels like he has a bit of snobbery towards Collingwood midfield.
Asked about midfielders he rates. Raves about Ablett then mentions Selwood.
Sheahan asks about Rance on Cloke and not Chaplin, Walls agreed. Cotchin said defenders had option of putting hands up an taking a challenge and Rance wanted to as he was disappointed in early performance. Before halftime thought Rance was good but no support from midfield.
Asked if he prefers Chaplin at half back rather than last line, said he is a good drop off player, probably want him on lesser player.
Asked if he has say in selection, said leadership group give opinions, up to coaches.
Asked about Vlaustin, said he has been playing well, clean hands etc... will play soon. Also said good leader even at pre season training camps.
Asked about Captaincy. Loves extra on field responsibility and added pressure to perform. Said he is good at 'pressing flesh' with sponsors etc....
Asked if he has a pair of slippers, said he does but they are Peter Alexander.
Asked about Dustin and his drop off after halftime. Asked how long it took him to build a tank he said only last year he felt confident and still hard. Reality is for Dustin needs lot of rotations to keep him fresh and they have to do that.
Asked about Ty Vickery, said a lot of people don't realise how much of a team role he plays, making space and blocking etc... Still developing.
Pretty quick segment I felt, not much depth.
Overall I would say he was smooth and spoke well, I still find him a little fake and wooden, bit too clean for my liking.
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When you've achieved sweet FA in footy, best to play it squeaky clean and check the personality at the door
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Asked about lessons learned, said the standards leading into the game weren't as good as previous.
Gerard Healy says that it staggers him training standards were low in such a big week. Cotchin said probably a hindsight thing.
Asked if coach was angry, Cotchin said no, didn't dominate the areas they wanted to and have reviewed.
Asked how they work out who plays on Swan and Pendlebury. Said he was going to have Pendlebury at stoppage, Pendlebury went to him and Delideo and threw spanner in works. Delideo was to go with Swan. Felt at half time they were going ok.
Showed some footage of Collingwood spread and how well they do it. Cotchin called it rolling the dice, backing guys to win footy and running forward.
Another bit of footage, Cotchin and Swan together at bounce, then Swan loses him and gets touches. Asked if Swan is one of the hardest runners, Cotchin said he is smart and knows the space to go to and sometimes doesn't chase. Feels like he has a bit of snobbery towards Collingwood midfield.
Asked about midfielders he rates. Raves about Ablett then mentions Selwood.
Sheahan asks about Rance on Cloke and not Chaplin, Walls agreed. Cotchin said defenders had option of putting hands up an taking a challenge and Rance wanted to as he was disappointed in early performance. Before halftime thought Rance was good but no support from midfield.
Asked if he prefers Chaplin at half back rather than last line, said he is a good drop off player, probably want him on lesser player.
Asked if he has say in selection, said leadership group give opinions, up to coaches.
Asked about Vlaustin, said he has been playing well, clean hands etc... will play soon. Also said good leader even at pre season training camps.
Asked about Captaincy. Loves extra on field responsibility and added pressure to perform. Said he is good at 'pressing flesh' with sponsors etc....
Asked if he has a pair of slippers, said he does but they are Peter Alexander.
Asked about Dustin and his drop off after halftime. Asked how long it took him to build a tank he said only last year he felt confident and still hard. Reality is for Dustin needs lot of rotations to keep him fresh and they have to do that.
Asked about Ty Vickery, said a lot of people don't realise how much of a team role he plays, making space and blocking etc... Still developing.
Pretty quick segment I felt, not much depth.
Overall I would say he was smooth and spoke well, I still find him a little fake and wooden, bit too clean for my liking.
Cheers for that TBR :cheers :thumbsup.
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Richmond defender Alex Rance put his hand up for the Travis Cloke task
Sam Landsberger
From: Herald Sun
April 22, 2013 11:52PM
IT was Alex Rance's call to take on Collingwood gorilla Travis Cloke, with the young Tiger determined to prove himself on the big stage.
Football experts have wondered why Troy Chaplin, the experienced full-back Richmond signed from Port Adelaide last October, didn’t match up on Cloke, who proved the difference with a devastating seven-goal haul on Saturday.
But Richmond captain Trent Cotchin revealed Rance, 23, asked for Cloke when the Tigers’ defence met to discuss the Pies last week.
“Obviously Rancey had been disappointed with his performances in previous weeks and wanted to show that he was capable of taking on one of the best key forwards in the competition,” Cotchin told Fox Footy’s On The Couch.
“We thought it was a fantastic thing that he wanted to put his hand up.
“I think before halftime he’d done a relatively good job considering our pressure wasn’t up to the standard in the midfield.”
Rance has suffered a tough start to 2013, with Liam Jones booting a career-best four goals against the priority pick in Round 3.
And Cotchin revealed that while the Tigers started favourites against the Pies, their training standards last week foreshadowed a dip in performance.
“It was a big build up. We thought we were ready, but even looking back to our training we probably didn’t have the standards we had leading into other games,” hr said.
“That was something we reviewed as a leadership group today.
“We thought we were ready to take a potential top-four side on and we didn’t. Our focus areas going into the game, we didn’t tick any of those off, and that’s disappointing.”
Asked to rate some of the other superstar midfield captains in the AFL, Cotchin said: “I’ve always idolised Gary Ablett and still looking back on that St Kilda game (in Round 1) to see him kick three or four goals in one quarter, and he’s consistently having mid-30 possessions with most of them pretty effective.
“He’s certainly the most talented in my eyes as a midfielder, but Joel Selwood’s impact and the way he leads is something to aspire to.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-defender-alex-rance-put-his-hand-up-for-the-travis-cloke-task/story-e6frf9mx-1226626671279
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thanks for the recap TBR
interesting to see Cotchin's views on the pies midfield. Basically did the same as carlton did in rnd 1 2nd half, rolled the dice and ran ahead of the ball ie downhill skiing. Swans a gun but he's always cheated staying ahead of the ball and gets away with it bc his team is that good.
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Rance should never be allowed to play on a power forward again.
It's Chappy or bust which is saying something. We really need to go shopping for a strong key defender that can play on the Cloke types. Reckon Grimesey will get there with that iron fist, though.
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Feels like he has a bit of snobbery towards Collingwood midfield.
I felt that too.
Wallsy, Healy and Sheahan were gushing over Swan and Cotch shot them down a little bit and said that Swan got lucky a couple of times. He kicked a goal and Cotch said it was because Swan didn't chase out of their forward line, we turned it over and he was lucky enough to get on the end of it.
It was a little like the BTG hospital footage when the Carlton supporting mum said that we were lucky to win and Cotch said 'yeah, i don't think so' :lol
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Rance should never be allowed to play on a power forward again.
It's Chappy or bust which is saying something. We really need to go shopping for a strong key defender that can play on the Cloke types. Reckon Grimesey will get there with that iron fist, though.
yep couldn't agree more
although i think it had more to do with bad coaching on the day. Footage on Fox showed Chaplin within 10 metres from the contest yet not going into help out.
i couldnt believe it to be honest how many times i saw Cloke yelling at his other forwards to move out leaving him 1 on 1. What did we do to offset this, nothing
Grimes or Chaplin shouldve helped Rance out instead of ball watching or worrying about their own man.
I'm tipping the Bombers will get this right on Thursday
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Here's the video of Cotch's interview on the couch last night for those that missed it:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/AFL/039preparation-let-us-down039/video-e6frf33l-1226626746842?subcat=1225864515752&site=FoxSports
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Rance should never be allowed to play on a power forward again.
It's Chappy or bust which is saying something. We really need to go shopping for a strong key defender that can play on the Cloke types. Reckon Grimesey will get there with that iron fist, though.
yep couldn't agree more
although i think it had more to do with bad coaching on the day. Footage on Fox showed Chaplin within 10 metres from the contest yet not going into help out.
i couldnt believe it to be honest how many times i saw Cloke yelling at his other forwards to move out leaving him 1 on 1. What did we do to offset this, nothing
Grimes or Chaplin shouldve helped Rance out instead of ball watching or worrying about their own man.
I'm tipping the Bombers will get this right on Thursday
Rance has had good games on power forwards in the past and TBH i'm not sure there is a defender in the comp that can go one on one with Cloke all day and come out on top without getting a chop out from his teammates and having someone drop back into the hole. That was the biggest concern for me. No-one was getting in front of Cloke to block his leads, no-one going third man up. I'd be filthy if I was Rance at the lack of support.
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Rance has had good games on power forwards in the past and TBH i'm not sure there is a defender in the comp that can go one on one with Cloke all day and come out on top without getting a chop out from his teammates and having someone drop back into the hole. That was the biggest concern for me. No-one was getting in front of Cloke to block his leads, no-one going third man up. I'd be filthy if I was Rance at the lack of support.
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Agree Mr Gerkin :clapping
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Rance has had good games on power forwards in the past and TBH i'm not sure there is a defender in the comp that can go one on one with Cloke all day and come out on top without getting a chop out from his teammates and having someone drop back into the hole. That was the biggest concern for me. No-one was getting in front of Cloke to block his leads, no-one going third man up. I'd be filthy if I was Rance at the lack of support.
Even more concerning is that there was really no other marking threat in the forward line, particularly when Lynch was on ball.
With a loose man in defence to remain with his player, both Chaplin and Grimes could have gone third up more easily than in any other game.
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Rance has had good games on power forwards in the past and TBH i'm not sure there is a defender in the comp that can go one on one with Cloke all day and come out on top without getting a chop out from his teammates and having someone drop back into the hole. That was the biggest concern for me. No-one was getting in front of Cloke to block his leads, no-one going third man up. I'd be filthy if I was Rance at the lack of support.
Even more concerning is that there was really no other marking threat in the forward line, particularly when Lynch was on ball.
With a loose man in defence to remain with his player, both Chaplin and Grimes could have gone third up more easily than in any other game.
Maybe they got spooked by the numbers running ahead of the ball, epic fail either way. Tross was going alright in the first half.
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Rance has had good games on power forwards in the past and TBH i'm not sure there is a defender in the comp that can go one on one with Cloke all day and come out on top without getting a chop out from his teammates and having someone drop back into the hole. That was the biggest concern for me. No-one was getting in front of Cloke to block his leads, no-one going third man up. I'd be filthy if I was Rance at the lack of support.
Even more concerning is that there was really no other marking threat in the forward line, particularly when Lynch was on ball.
With a loose man in defence to remain with his player, both Chaplin and Grimes could have gone third up more easily than in any other game.
This.
If anyone saw AFL Insider last night then they would have seen King give this game quite a bit of attention. Without saying it directly he was implying it was the fault of our midfielders. Blokes like Chaplin actually didn't do anything wrong. When the ball was going into our back 50 half the team went pedestrian. Guys like Grigg and even Maric were standing around scratching their nuts when they were all well within reach to take Chaplin's and Grimes' opponents so those blokes could then roll back onto Cloke and give Rance a hand. They showed the Lynch 50m penalty where our blokes only strolled back. Maric dawdled to the 50m arc and every Collingwood player then lead out to clear 30m from goal and isolated Rance on Cloke. Even Eade acknowledged we weren't rolling players on and that's why they kept doing what they were doing.
To vindicate Rance and Chaplin a bit they did show a couple passages when our defenders did win out one on one and took some intercept marks. Rance isn't a bad player, but it just goes to show how important having that drop off player is when the opposition are going to do everything they can to put Rance at a disadvantage.
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The potbelles will also be playing at dreamtime I hear
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The potbelles will also be playing at dreamtime I hear
Would be surprising if true ( doubt it personally) seeing the focus onthe night is promoting (rightly) indigenous culture and talent.
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The potbelles will also be playing at dreamtime I hear
Would be surprising if true ( doubt it personally) seeing the focus onthe night is promoting (rightly) indigenous culture and talent.
The potbellez are indigenous
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The potbelles will also be playing at dreamtime I hear
Would be surprising if true ( doubt it personally) seeing the focus onthe night is promoting (rightly) indigenous culture and talent.
The potbellez are indigenous
Are they?
The lead singer had what seemed like and American accent :-\
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The potbelles will also be playing at dreamtime I hear
Would be surprising if true ( doubt it personally) seeing the focus onthe night is promoting (rightly) indigenous culture and talent.
The potbellez are indigenous
Beat me to it
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The potbelles will also be playing at dreamtime I hear
Would be surprising if true ( doubt it personally) seeing the focus onthe night is promoting (rightly) indigenous culture and talent.
The potbellez are indigenous
Beat me to it
Stand corrected then, they will play Not sure about the Japanese tribal drums though ;D
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Hopefully we don't hold back next time then.
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Seems Cotch's comment about Swan 'cheating' by running forward of the ball was on the money ...
A frustrated Pendlebury said: "They (Essendon) burnt us pretty badly by playing honest football. We started cheating."
"In the last 15 minutes the forwards and mids ... left our backs with guys everywhere and six guys can't defend nine.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/scott-pendlebury-turns-torch-on-cheating-collingwood-teammates/story-e6frf9kx-1226629561633
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Only Collingwood would get the media blaming the umpires lol Bitching about the same things that we copped against them last week.