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Preview: Dockers v Tigers
By Alex Malcolm
afl.com.au
10:40pm April 22, 13
SUMMARY:
Both sides come off defeats and six-day breaks. Richmond had its bubble burst by Collingwood and a rampaging Travis Cloke. Fremantle went to Tasmania without its three most experienced players and gave Hawthorn a five-goal start and never recovered. If Collingwood was a test of Richmond's legitimacy, Fremantle at home will give it a real gauge on where they stand. Fremantle's loss to Essendon will really haunt it if Richmond take the four points from this match. Luke McPharlin will definitely return for the Dockers.
WHERE AND WHEN: Patersons Stadium, Friday April 26, at 6.45pm WST
LAST FIVE TIMES
Rd 21, 2012, Fremantle 13.16 (94) d Richmond 11.6 (72) at Patersons Stadium
Rd 11, 2012, Fremantle 12.6 (78) d Richmond 9.12 (66) at the MCG
Rd 7, 2011, Richmond 23.10 (148) d Fremantle 14.15 (99) at the MCG
Rd 15, 2010, Richmond 15.10 (100) d Fremantle 11.15 (81) at Etihad Stadium
Rd 5, 2010, Fremantle 15.22 (112) d Richmond 11.7 (73) at Patersons Stadium
THE SIX-POINTS
1. It's mixed results between the sides recently; the Dockers have won three of the last five games, but the Tigers have won five of the last eight.
2. This will be the 28th clash between the sides and the Tigers hold a narrow advantage winning 15 times to 12.
3. At Patersons Stadium it’s in the home team's favour; from 13 contests Fremantle have won eight.
4. Richmond has lost its last four matches at Patersons Stadium and has struggled over the last decade at the venue losing 13 of 16 games.
5. Did you know under Damien Hardwick the Tigers have won only 38% of their interstate matches?
6. Both teams have strong defences this season. Fremantle is currently ranked 4th for least points conceded, Richmond is ranked 6th.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2013/5/fre-v-rich
Also Zac Dawson is playing his 100th game.
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Conca's done his foot
Out for 4-6 :banghead
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Must win game, inexcusable if we lose
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McPharlin is a huge in for them. Most important player to their structure.
Unfortunately we need to beat the odds of winning in Perth and only having managed one draw from nine attempts against a side coached by Ross Lyon.
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Must win game, inexcusable if we lose
i cant see us us backing up and beating geelong after a trip to subi, so i do think that a win this week is very important.
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5. Did you know under Damien Hardwick the Tigers have won only 38% of their interstate matches?
Does this idiot know our overall winning % under Hardwick. Take that into account and I would think 38% is actually fairly high
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Vlast is in, Yew !!
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Vlast is in, Yew !!
Has a bigger tank than Dustibin
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Fremantle coach Ross Lyon aims to tame Tiger midfield
AAP
From: Herald Sun
April 25, 2013 3:20PM
FREMANTLE coach Ross Lyon says his team can't afford another mental lapse if it is to tame Richmond's talented midfield tomorrow night at Patersons Stadium.
The Dockers (2-2) are yet to put together a consistent four-quarter effort this season, with a horrible third term against Essendon in Round 3 and a similarly bad opening stanza against Hawthorn last week costing them dearly.
Lyon is well aware of the threat Richmond's midfield poses, with the likes of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Shane Tuck and Shaun Grigg able to tear the game wide open, with the help of ruckman Ivan Maric.
Fremantle has its own midfield matchwinners in the form of David Mundy, Nat Fyfe, Michael Barlow and Stephen Hill, but Lyon said consistency would be the key to victory.
"Richmond have got real speed. That midfield they've invested in over five or six years now is really strong," Lyon said.
"So we understand what we're up against is very impressive. And there's a reason everyone's talking about Richmond, because their best is very good.
"We think we're quite a good team, but we've been a bit inconsistent, which concerns us. But we get a real opportunity to fix that."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/fremantle-coach-ross-lyon-aims-to-tame-tiger-midfield/story-e6frf9lf-1226629438998
Fremantle are favourites with the bookies ...
Richmond $2.55
Fremantle $1.52
Line at 12.5 pts
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VIDEO: Spotlight on Round 5
Richmond assistant coach Ross Smith joins Richo to preview the Tigers' Round 5 clash against Fremantle.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-25/spotlight-on-r5
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After last week's terrible and lethargic effort, a chance tonight to make amends and make a statement about effort in a 8-point game. We owe Freo for last year.
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We must play hard, tough, no compromise footy.
None of this lollipop, gay bird, pansy poo we've been dishing up.
It's time to come of age.
It's time to flex some muscle.
It's time to fight.
It's time to make some tackles.
It's time to make a statement.
It's time!
C'mon Tigers!
Eat 'Em Alive!
........If we don't we'll get smashed.
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Great start. Griggy :gotigers
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Houli drills it to McGuane on the lead. From 40m nails it :gotigers
Rich 12
Freo 0
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Knights blazes from the boundary for a point.
Rich 14
Freo 0
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Free against McPharlin in the goalsquare to Jack. Goal :gotigers
Rich 20
Freo 0
:gotigers
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Lucky goal to Freo.
20 - 6
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That was OOTF you dopey boundary ump :banghead
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We've got to be smarter going inside 50. Should have Lids up there if we want one forward one out. Freo hit us on the counter.
Rich 20
Freo 12
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Man up!!!!
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Knights free 45m out. Top kick. Goal :gotigers
Rich 26
Freo 12
Needed that one as a steadier.
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I am making the call early. Sub Lids out.
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High on Floss not paid ::).
LOL Lukey :lol. Can laugh now as we still got it to Vickery. Goal :gotigers
Rich 32
Freo 12
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Jack's goal!!
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I am making the call early. Sub Lids out.
Nup. That would allow Crowley to then tag Cotch
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Quarter Time
Richmond 5.2-32
Fremantle 2.0-12
Goals: Vickery, Knights, McGuane, Riewoldt, Grigg
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Great tackling so far, especially Flosstone!
2 clear OOTF that we didn't get but umpiring has been good so far.
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Much better attack on the footy and apart from two lapses much stronger defensive pressure.
Ivan doing well in the ruck.
Cotch killing 'em with Crowley on Lids.
Floss very impressive on debut.
Let's hope Grimesy stays fit all year in our backline.
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Here comes the home-town umpiring ::).
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So you can chop arms can you umpire ::)
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Is it just me or is this the worst camera work in the history of footy?
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Don't drop off the intensity Tiges.
Rich 32
Freo 26
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Great start falling into the same issues as last week. They are forcing us into turnovers like pies.
Edwards, Lids are playing rubbish.
Freo will be in front at half time.
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Need some effin' poise!!!
Yes, camera work is terrible :banghead
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Have we 22 players out there???????
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WTF was that Vickery you effin moron!
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Shocking TV. That option was open but you took too long and then kicked it where your teammate was 10 secs earlier :scream.
Rich 32
Freo 33
Why so we go into this slow motion footy :banghead
Why are we playing from behind :banghead
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Rance's confidence looks shot :-\.
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C'mon Deledio, big effort needed. Show you're elite!
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Maric is getting towelled up by a first gamer.
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50m the only way we have looked insid 50 this quarter!!!
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Can thank the ump for that one. Knights 50m and he nails it from long range again :gotigers
Rich 38
Freo 34
Understatement to say we needed that one.
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Maric tunneled under the ball 40m out., Gives to Dusty but he misses.
Rich 39
Freo 34
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Rance you are having another shocker.
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Rance's confidence looks shot :-\.
Dropped marks. Broken tackles
His a broken man IMO
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He is pathetically clumsy. Dropping marks when it's 2 on 1, is hurting us and a liability for
us out there atm
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Did anyone else just see Fyfe kick Jackson?
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Floss is showing some of his experience teammates about in and under hard work.
Nice mark TV and Goal :gotigers
Rich 45
Freo 40
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Can we have some composure out there instead of just bombing it straight outside defensive 50 to waiting Freo players :banghead
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Can we have some composure out there instead of just bombing it straight outside defensive 50 to waiting Freo players :banghead
AGREED!!!!' We look poo!!!!!!
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stuff me
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Rance get off. You might as well be playing for Freo tonight the way you're playing. McGuane not far behind in idiocy.
Rich 45
Freo 47
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Rance needs time at Coburg, he is the new Mcguane in our defence.
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Great Cotch off with a injury :(
That was soft Tiges. Have numbers around the ball on the wing and let a Freo player waltz through.
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Half-time
Richmond 5.2 7.3-45
Fremantle 2.0 7.5-47
Goals: Knights 2, Vickery 2, Riewoldt, McGuane, Grigg
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How many players out there in the yellow & black can someone please confirm - Fair Dinkum!!
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That was like being forced to watch police academy 7 again
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As usual when the opposition starts muscling up we turn to butter, too many stars gone missing. Need to push to a new level and fight back control. A good start might be to get front position, with kicks being under pressure the odds are its going to fall short, continually caught out. Have a horrible feeling a couple of goals early in the third by Freo and it could be the Pies game all over over again
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Griggs playing the timid chick cop
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rance the bitch is bog for freo..
had enough of this piece of poo
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How do you go from looking a million bucks in the first quarter, then after a 5 minute break come out playing like the Demons??
This feels like it is going to get ugly fast.
Rance needs to cave in Ballantyne, Crowley and Maynes face to redeem himself. A 20 week suspension to him would be a god send.
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Once teams gerry on to where we like to run and cut it off its like watching a whole different team out there. No plan B. Got to learn to harden up and play some tough 1 on 1 football when its required
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rance if a sissy cant hurt a butterfly
and wtf is white in the team
useless
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That was a pathetic quarter. Intensity, run and tackling dropped away and we're back to stagnant fumbly reactive panic footy of last week :scream.
You can't break down a press jogging gently around. Where's the run from behind handball receives to break the lines?
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Lol at people getting drunk then hating on the team.
Love to see his reaction if we won to a mat white goal after the siren!
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We are extremely lazy. Freeo lead us to the footy nearly every time in that second quarter. Good thing is we have two quarters to show some fight.
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Griggs playing the timid chick cop
Has had plenty of teammates. Reactive rather than going for the ball.
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I'm tipping a big loss here
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At subiaco its vitally important to have a lead up fwd that can take some important marks on the wing to give runners time to run past. We just dont have this type of player. Jack is better inside 50, McGuane is there for competitiveness and Vickery doesnt have the motor to do that. Need someone like Lids to play as a permanent forward to present when we are coming out of defence and take the big important marks on the wings. Somethingsd got to give, we had a good start, but freo have shut us down completely and will steamroll us if we dont change it up in the 2nd half.
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Comedy hour out there.
Somehow thanks to Dusty who hits up TV, it ends up with McGuane. Goal :gotigers
Rich 51
Freo 47
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cotch went low and hard for the ball takes possession and gets straight to his feet.
the softie standing by watching gets the free, even though there was minimal contact.
how anyone can think this rule is good for the game has me as stuffed as $2 hooker
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Cotch miss. Should have kicked that although he's labouring with that knee.
52 - 47
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Why let the ball out of a pack inside defensive 50 instead of killing it and resting for the stoppage :banghead
52 - 54
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KNights 3rd goal :gotigers
Rich 58
Freo 61
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Why let the ball out of a pack inside defensive 50 instead of killing it and resting for the stoppage :banghead
52 - 54
Did u see how many tigers around the goal?? Joke we couldnt lock it up or win it outright
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Terry wallace all over again, get he footy and..............................
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Lids long shot is touched.
Rich 59
Freo 61
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Who the stuff is on Johnson?
Great mark Ellia, courage
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Btw, seen enough if petterd, not good enough
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stuffen Jackson stuffen stuff stuff stuff
That's the game u idiot!!
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Jacko :scream
We are winning this for Freo :banghead
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Why am I so headless!!!!!
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3/4 time
Richmond 5.2 7.3 9.5-59
Fremantle 2.0 7.5 10.8-68
Goals: Knights 3, Vickery 2, McGuane 2, Riewoldt, Grigg
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Can't believe it's only 2 goals :lol
The importance of a good start.
Let's see what the boys are made of, I don't think we can win but u never know
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Can't watch goodnight!!!!
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Can't watch goodnight!!!!
I'll be watching, but i'll be moving any potential projectiles out of arms reach, or the telly will have a matching crack in it (my 2 year old did the first crack :lol)
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Does anyone have a brain out there?! :banghead
It's a mystery that when Freo were dominating we were very efficient scoring once inside forward 50 yet in that last 10-15 minutes when we had all the ball and were pumping it inside 50 we couldn't score :huh. Why are all our forwards flying for the same ball and no one is down for the front and square crumb. Someone tell Titch and now Nahas to just get front and bloody square!
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Forget it
No chance
Leaders have gone missing since the 1st quarter.
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Nahas across the face and it's rushed through.
Rich 60
Freo 68
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Ballantyne down. Just another reason for the footy world to love Cotch.
WTF how is that a free :banghead
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Why are we always kicking to a purple jumper, someone please explain??
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Ballantyne down. Just another reason for the footy world to love Cotch.
WTF how is that a free :banghead
Sliding rule ::)
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What a joke is this umpiring this quarter ::).
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Ballantyne down. Just another reason for the footy world to love Cotch.
WTF how is that a free :banghead
Sliding rule ::)
Cotch didn't slide and got to the ball first and Ballantyne hit Cotch in the head.
Then two Freo playes dive on the ball and it's paid in the back.
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Rance is a stuffin disgrace.
Talk talk and more talk, that's all I see
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And they are missing Sandilands and Pavlich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great goal Dusty :gotigers
Rich 66
Freo 74
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Ballantyne down. Just another reason for the footy world to love Cotch.
WTF how is that a free :banghead
Sliding rule ::)
Cotch didn't slide and got to the ball first and Ballantyne hit Cotch in the head.
Then two Freo playes dive on the ball and it's paid in the back.
No
Ballantine got to it first but that doesn't matter, the second effort of cotch he dived
On the ball and then a freo player ran into him ::) so sliding rule joke of a free
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stuffing petterd, seriously take possession ffs
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Dusty long point.
Rich 67
Freo 74
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I can't believe what hack Dawson gets awy with
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Titch get front and bloddy square instead of going into the pack :banghead
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Terrific mark TV. Goal :gotigers
Rich 73
Freo 75
5 mins to go
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Great mark and goal Vicks!
2 points!
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TV why did you touch it.
74 -75
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That ball hit the goal ump.
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NicoSimo you may be right ;D
Goal Whitey :gotigers
Rich 80
Freo 75
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:banghead
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:santa :banghead
:banghead
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#$%&!
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There's 2 hours of my life ' I want back' $&@? $&@? $€¥%!!!!!!!
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Lol at people getting drunk then hating on the team.
Love to see his reaction if we won to a mat white goal after the siren!
Nearly call of the year
poohouse defending at the death there! Goalside morons??!
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Very last kick of the game, where are the smalls, one at the back of the pack we win the game. We have to at all cost recruit an elusive skilful forward, its so frustrating when up the other end their smalls win them the game :banghead :banghead :banghead
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stuffen stuff! Needed to pinch a win in this tough 3 game block, why didn't everyone flood back after Whites goal. stuffen dumb poos
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
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stuffin idiots have learnt nothing.
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poo!!!!
A basic defensive error at a stoppage allowing Ballantyne of all people :banghead
to kick the winner. :banghead :banghead :banghead
I learnt that at juniors. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Stupid / stupid / stupid
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What is wrong with our coaching staff - why wouldn't they drop players behind the ball
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Let's keep talking up abt how much we've worked on winning tight games.
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would love to know what the rule is when the ball hits the goal umpire?
that turd must of known the ball hit him which is what prevented it from crossing the line?
poxy cheating piece of crap. surely it should have been a goal?
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I can't believe it! Oh hang on, yes i can.
The usual what if scenarios will now be played out in everyone's mind.
At least we fought back when clearly we didn't have the skill to execute properly.
But when we boil it all down, one quarter of footy beat us again.
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would love to know what the rule is when the ball hits the goal umpire?
that turd must of known the ball hit him which is what prevented it from crossing the line?
poxy cheating piece of crap. surely it should have been a goal?
According to rules the umpire is an extension of the post
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What is wrong with our coaching staff - why wouldn't they drop players behind the ball
Shouldn't need a coach to tell the players that they need to flood back, it's common sense.
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For something they apparently focused on during the pre season it again shows our deficiencies under pressure, not enough smart football brains I'm afraid.
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would love to know what the rule is when the ball hits the goal umpire?
that turd must of known the ball hit him which is what prevented it from crossing the line?
poxy cheating piece of crap. surely it should have been a goal?
You maybe right al but White's next goal made that irrelevant to the result.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
:yep
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Relegate RFC IMO.
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I hate Freo more than any other team in the competition, I really wanted this win, 4-1 and sitting nicely in the 8.... nope, we're now 3-2 and have the Cats next week. stuff this poo
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
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We can talk about it all we like and what happened.
Two things stand out.
1. Whites kick hits the goal ump and its going in- point
2. In the first Rance smothers in the square falls to Mayne goal.
we were stupid not being goal side.
Trent slide was that a free. Malakies.
Rance some bloopers there in the first half. Had a better second half but anyway.
What hurts is a one point loss and brings us back in the pack. Makes the Port game critical now.
Still can't gamoto win a game against Ross Lyon. This is gonna hurt for a while lads.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
A seriously much better effort Y & B and just as well too because they would've won by 10 goals hadn't we lifted in that area and with a bit more composure and smarts we could've pinched it.
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would love to know what the rule is when the ball hits the goal umpire?
that turd must of known the ball hit him which is what prevented it from crossing the line?
poxy cheating piece of crap. surely it should have been a goal?
According to rules the umpire is an extension of the post
really? thats just pox. what if he is smack bang in the middle? if thats the case it is just stupid
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The ball hitting the goal umpires leg certainly looked dubious, he seemed far enough away from the goal post for it to look like it would have been a goal, and a goal then changes the whole complexity of the game.
And I agree, where was our crumbing forward at the back of the pack, would have been the easiest goal of the year, as well as the winning goal.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
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Unfortunately tonight's game cost us 8 premiership points, no way can I see us backing up against the cats next week. At 3 and 3 we are right back in the pack and looking at 9th spot yet again. Having said this I was impressed that we didnt throw in the towel and fought it right out, still a very disappointing loss all the same
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Why doesn't he stand behind afew feet behind the line. Because he's a turd that's why.
The goal ump is a turd and skata happens. That's life.
4-1 and we are comfortable now we're back in the pack.
Makes Port in a fortnight critical.
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Very last kick of the game, where are the smalls, one at the back of the pack we win the game. We have to at all cost recruit an elusive skilful forward, its so frustrating when up the other end their smalls win them the game :banghead :banghead :banghead
Yep it's our main weakness. So frustrating nearly every week seeing the ball spill down from the back and the opposition always have the numbers at ground level. Our small forwards have no idea. It may be old school but you were always taught to be front and square if playing that crumbing forward role. You don't run into the base of the pack and end up out of the play.
Speaking of old school, you were also taught to protect the goalside and centre corridor of a defensive throw-in. Not pushing numbers back at the centre bounce was also another boo-boo and reminscence of the last 2 minutes of the Gold Coast game. We didn't need 6 forwards with 1.30 mins to play.
Anyway we can't blame the last couple of mins for the loss. We lost the game in the 2nd and first half of the 3rd quarters with lazy brainless footy. The boys fought hard in the last 45 mins but once again a bad quarter or so has cost us a close game.
ps. Just seen the replay of the ball bloody hitting the goal ump when the ball was going through for a goal. You would be ticked off if that happened in a close GF. Goal umpires should stay behind the goal line.
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The ball hitting the goal umpires leg certainly looked dubious, he seemed far enough away from the goal post for it to look like it would have been a goal, and a goal then changes the whole complexity of the game.
And I agree, where was our crumbing forward at the back of the pack, would have been the easiest goal of the year, as well as the winning goal.
Knowing our luck he would have run into the square and the siren went just as he was dropping the ball onto his boot.
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The form of Ellis and his courage was a real highlight for me. The low-light was that Ballantyne goal - no flooding and no-one goal side :banghead
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would love to know what the rule is when the ball hits the goal umpire?
that turd must of known the ball hit him which is what prevented it from crossing the line?
poxy cheating piece of crap. surely it should have been a goal?
According to rules the umpire is an extension of the post
Clearly as thick as a post too :yep
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Why doesn't he stand behind afew feet behind the line. Because he's a turd that's why.
The goal ump is a turd and skata happens. That's life.
4-1 and we are comfortable now we're back in the pack.
Makes Port in a fortnight critical.
Eade was just talking about it on fox footy. There was a coaches conference about this very issue a while ago and the afl and umpiring department instruct their goal umpires to stand like that, the coaches wanted them to stand behind the goal posts and stick their heads out to watch the play which makes a shitload more sense to me.
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facts are
when u have a team with rance nahas jackson in it u know u r poo
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
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Right now I want to vent. I could not care less who played well who didn't.
I just can't get the goal umpiring howler out of my mind.
85-75 and we are home. Gamoto. :scream
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Why doesn't he stand behind afew feet behind the line. Because he's a turd that's why.
The goal ump is a turd and skata happens. That's life.
4-1 and we are comfortable now we're back in the pack.
Makes Port in a fortnight critical.
Eade was just talking about it on fox footy. There was a coaches conference about this very issue a while ago and the afl and umpiring department instruct their goal umpires to stand like that, the coaches wanted them to stand behind the goal posts and stick their heads out to watch the play which makes a pooload more sense to me.
Right now I want to vent. I could not care less who played well who didn't.
I just can't get the goal umpiring howler out of my mind.
85-75 and we are home. Gamoto. :scream
Im furious too, the kolo binedes! but im angrier at the disgraceful defending at a stoppage no less! when that little germ kicked the winning goal. The thing is if u watch the replay you'll see the contest before that it had the same feel, the dockers hunted the ball in a pack and willed it forward, we were running side by side and didnt have bodies goal side to block the run!!!! just awful
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
I wasn't the only one talking about our lack of defensive pressure Al.
Most experts have mentioned it all week. Richo mentioned it also during the game.
Are they are simpletons also?
Grow up!
Learn footy!
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Why doesn't he stand behind afew feet behind the line. Because he's a turd that's why.
The goal ump is a turd and skata happens. That's life.
That goal ump is a turd and if he was doing his job properly he would have moved out the way as the ball crossed the line.
Hes lucky someone from the crowd didn't jump the fence and smash his face in. That's life too.
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Why doesn't he stand behind afew feet behind the line. Because he's a turd that's why.
The goal ump is a turd and skata happens. That's life.
4-1 and we are comfortable now we're back in the pack.
Makes Port in a fortnight critical.
Eade was just talking about it on fox footy. There was a coaches conference about this very issue a while ago and the afl and umpiring department instruct their goal umpires to stand like that, the coaches wanted them to stand behind the goal posts and stick their heads out to watch the play which makes a pooload more sense to me.
Right now I want to vent. I could not care less who played well who didn't.
I just can't get the goal umpiring howler out of my mind.
85-75 and we are home. Gamoto. :scream
Im furious too, the kolo binedes! but im angrier at the disgraceful defending at a stoppage no less! when that little germ kicked the winning goal. The thing is if u watch the replay you'll see the contest before that it had the same feel, the dockers hunted the ball in a pack and willed it forward, we were running side by side and didnt have bodies goal side to block the run!!!! just awful
Tony tonight just sums us up.
Heart effort and a stupid error simple school boy error stuff you learn in juniors and we just could not execute it. A goal to that little diarhoea splat.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Spot on. Our pressure can't be faulted tonight.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Quite clearly our tackling and pressure was down in the first month, no way to dance around this. Maybe Im a simpleton but tonight it is clearly the reason we stayed in it and had a chance to pinch when in the second and 3rd quarters we only got it inside 50 13 times.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
I wasn't the only one talking about our lack of defensive pressure Al.
Most experts have mentioned it all week. Richo mentioned it also during the game.
Are they are simpletons also?
Grow up!
Learn footy!
so if you think one facet of footy is the be all an end all, why didnt we win tonight?
as i said footy is multifaceted, but you think i need to learn footy? you'r the one that carry's on about one thing all the time.
you dont agree footy is about more than one aspect?
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3 points I'd like to make: 1) We just really lack composure throughout the whole team. As soon as a team plays a close checking style we just hack it forward at all costs regardless of whether we have players in space or other options available. 2) We did not make an effort to play in front in general play all night, especially when we were under pressure coming out of our back line. Too many easy turn-over possessions !!! 3) Do our coaches really teach our back line to take marks and then blindly play on when we have been under siege for 15 minutes i.e Alex Rance on several occasions :banghead
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Don't turn things around in hypotheticals to highlight your own argument. It actually discredits your opinion further.
Spots on was that comment. Tackling and pressure can't be faulted tonight.
I can't understand how freo players had so much space and were found on their own all over the park.
Jack was shocking tonight and yet again a small kicks a bag against us.
Ballantyne, Sidebottom.
Which small kicks our goals?
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I can't believe that goal umpire who got in the way. We did enough to win.
Freo got lucky.
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Feeling a bit sick after this one. Stuffing sick of this club sometimes. Feeling really bummed. Home game for my local footy club next week so sticking around sinking frothies with the boys is sounding much more inviting than heading into the MCG for more of this crap.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Quite clearly our tackling and pressure was down in the first month, no way to dance around this. Maybe Im a simpleton but tonight it is clearly the reason we stayed in it and had a chance to pinch when in the second and 3rd quarters we only got it inside 50 13 times.
yet we lost.
why is that?
because freo spread and worked hard to create space through the middle stages ogf the game.
how many goals did they get from a chain of uncontested posessions, yet we had more tackles?
no one aspect is the magic bullet.
to carry on about one stat is simpleton town, and i never thought you did. but hey if you want to put your hand up for that......
as i have said, a low tackle count is a symptom of the problem, not the problem.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Don't turn things around in hypotheticals to highlight your own argument. It actually discredits your opinion further.
Spots on was that comment. Tackling and pressure can't be faulted tonight.
I can't understand how freo players had so much space and were found on their own all over the park.
Jack was shocking tonight and yet again a small kicks a bag against us.
Ballantyne, Sidebottom.
Which small kicks our goals?
If Jake King plays tonight we win. :scream
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Don't turn things around in hypotheticals to highlight your own argument. It actually discredits your opinion further.
Spots on was that comment. Tackling and pressure can't be faulted tonight.
WTF are you on about?
I never said our tackling and pressure was no good. i said that despite that we still lost and that footy is about more than one aspect. in this case we got cut up by freos ability to outrun/outwork us and get uncontested possessions on the spread.
where are the supposed hypotheticals you talk about.do you even know what hypothetical means?
if you want to use big words, at least learn what they mean and use them in context.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Quite clearly our tackling and pressure was down in the first month, no way to dance around this. Maybe Im a simpleton but tonight it is clearly the reason we stayed in it and had a chance to pinch when in the second and 3rd quarters we only got it inside 50 13 times.
yet we lost.
why is that?
because freo spread and worked hard to create space through the middle stages ogf the game.
how many goals did they get from a chain of uncontested posessions, yet we had more tackles?
no one aspect is the magic bullet.
to carry on about one stat is simpleton town, and i never thought you did. but hey if you want to put your hand up for that......
as i have said, a low tackle count is a symptom of the problem, not the problem.
whatever al, I respect you as a poster but i think you are lowering yourself with this. Just imagine how much more we wouldve lost by if we didnt tackle and pressure like we did? is the way Im looking at it.
The defensive application was faultless and I would love to see that week in week out, it was the silly unforced errors that cost us in the end. I cant recall them kicking too many goals from a chain of uncontested possies tbh, they seemed to work hard for their goals and got several lucky ones imo.
Another reason they beat us in run and spread was that Crowley dominated Lids our prime mover and the fact that Vlastuin and Helbig came in and dont offer as much run as Conca and King do at this stage of their development.
While we're playing the hypotheticals, do you think we wouldve won an open uncontested shootout against them over there? I think we wouldve gotten flogged.
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Good effort by our boys tonight. Stuck at it all night.
It hurts now but I recon it might hurt even more come the end of the year.
Time will tell. Need to have a win next week to get back on track.
Then win the Port game and most would agree that at 5-2 is probably better than most would have had us.
Some work to do though, especially our half forwardline.. Non exsistant tonight.
Night all....
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Don't turn things around in hypotheticals to highlight your own argument. It actually discredits your opinion further.
Spots on was that comment. Tackling and pressure can't be faulted tonight.
WTF are you on about?
I never said our tackling and pressure was no good. i said that despite that we still lost and that footy is about more than one aspect. in this case we got cut up by freos ability to outrun/outwork us and get uncontested possessions on the spread.
where are the supposed hypotheticals you talk about.do you even know what hypothetical means?
if you want to use big words, at least learn what they mean and use them in context.
Whenever someone argues a point you begin to belittle them.
I feel sorry for you actually if that's how you conduct yourself in real life.
Maybe I don't know what a hypothetical is but this seems like one to me.
"if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game."
Now if you will excuse there are many good descent people on this site who I'd rather discuss football with, you are not one of them.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Quite clearly our tackling and pressure was down in the first month, no way to dance around this. Maybe Im a simpleton but tonight it is clearly the reason we stayed in it and had a chance to pinch when in the second and 3rd quarters we only got it inside 50 13 times.
yet we lost.
why is that?
because freo spread and worked hard to create space through the middle stages ogf the game.
how many goals did they get from a chain of uncontested posessions, yet we had more tackles?
no one aspect is the magic bullet.
to carry on about one stat is simpleton town, and i never thought you did. but hey if you want to put your hand up for that......
as i have said, a low tackle count is a symptom of the problem, not the problem.
whatever al, I respect you as a poster but i think you are lowering yourself with this. Just imagine how much more we wouldve lost by if we didnt tackle and pressure like we did? is the way Im looking at it.
The defensive application was faultless and I would love to see that week in week out, it was the silly unforced errors that cost us in the end. I cant recall them kicking too many goals from a chain of uncontested possies tbh, they seemed to work hard for their goals and got several lucky ones imo.
Another reason they beat us in run and spread was that Crowley dominated Lids our prime mover and the fact that Vlastuin and Helbig came in and dont offer as much run as Conca and King do at this stage of their development.
While we're playing the hypotheticals, do you think we wouldve won an open uncontested shootout against them over there? I think we wouldve gotten flogged.
actauly the defensive application was not faultless. with such a discrepancy in uncontested possessions, and when freo were able to score so much from unmarked players taking marks inside 50 it shows that our defensive aspect fell down once again when it counted.
the stats may show that out tackle count was up, but our defensive workrate was well down at times.
this is what i have have said time and time again. its's not about one stat, one aspect or one facet.
it's about the overall performance, and too many times we allowed freo players to run free and get easy possessions. they got too many easy goals and not on the fast break, which is different again. how many of the shots on goal from their smalls were from uncontested marks rather than crumbing goals? and marks from a good spot too, not deep in the pockets.
(im still unsure about the hypotheticals Im supposed to have raised. )
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Good effort by our boys tonight. Stuck at it all night.
It hurts now but I recon it might hurt even more come the end of the year.
Time will tell. Need to have a win next week to get back on track.
Then win the Port game and most would agree that at 5-2 is probably better than most would have had us.
Some work to do though, especially our half forwardline.. Non exsistant tonight.
Night all....
I think we can beat the cats BT. I said it a few weeks ago. I just think we are due to beat them and they are due for a loss.
Big open spaces of the G, hopefully Chapman is still out with that hamstring.
I'm more confident if beating the cats than if beating Freo tonight.
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
I wasn't the only one talking about our lack of defensive pressure Al.
Most experts have mentioned it all week. Richo mentioned it also during the game.
Are they are simpletons also?
Grow up!
Learn footy!
so if you think one facet of footy is the be all an end all, why didnt we win tonight?
as i said footy is multifaceted, but you think i need to learn footy? you'r the one that carry's on about one thing all the time.
you dont agree footy is about more than one aspect?
I never ever never ever ever once said it was only about one aspect.
If you can quote me saying this then all good but I don't recall ever once saying that tackling or pressure was everything.
I was concerned about our unaccountable soft footy in the first 3 weeks no doubt about it.
I harped on about our lack defensive pressure and softness against the pies but so did many many footy experts as well.
I don't see how voicing an opinion of my own concerns (which I did from the saints win), is such a terrible thing in your eyes.
Tonight our intensity and hardness at the contest clearly helped us nearly pinch the game we surely wouldve lost by atleast 8 goals if we hadn't done just that.
If we have that same level of intensity throughout the year we will win more games than we lose
....as long as we learn how to defend goal side that is. ;D
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Don't turn things around in hypotheticals to highlight your own argument. It actually discredits your opinion further.
Spots on was that comment. Tackling and pressure can't be faulted tonight.
WTF are you on about?
I never said our tackling and pressure was no good. i said that despite that we still lost and that footy is about more than one aspect. in this case we got cut up by freos ability to outrun/outwork us and get uncontested possessions on the spread.
where are the supposed hypotheticals you talk about.do you even know what hypothetical means?
if you want to use big words, at least learn what they mean and use them in context.
Whenever someone argues a point you begin to belittle them.
I feel sorry for you actually if that's how you conduct yourself in real life.
Maybe I don't know what a hypothetical is but this seems like one to me.
"if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game."
Now if you will excuse there are many good descent people on this site who I'd rather discuss football with, you are not one of them.
Ok daniel, ill give you that about hypothetical, but that comment was based purely on previous comments made by the poster in question. so not quite hypthetical, but i can now see why you said as such.
i do retract that jibe towards you.
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No problem. :thumbsup
We are a forgiving lot on this site, unless username is concerned
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Two things:-
Fremantle supporters are the most ignorant, stupid afl followers in the world and that includes Sydney, Brisbane and NZ. Morons.
Mr Tigra,p you got the tackling and the pressure and we still lost!
So in another words don't bother with the tackling and pressure?
If u can't admit that we stayed in it bc of our tackling and pressure....
Exactly. Well said. :clapping
we had 8 more tackles and 10 more contested posessions.
where they hurt us was the uncontested posessions 223-188
if it was the other way around you would be saying that we played a soft unaccountable game.
football is a multifaceted game, but simpletons will concentrate on one thing.
Quite clearly our tackling and pressure was down in the first month, no way to dance around this. Maybe Im a simpleton but tonight it is clearly the reason we stayed in it and had a chance to pinch when in the second and 3rd quarters we only got it inside 50 13 times.
yet we lost.
why is that?
because freo spread and worked hard to create space through the middle stages ogf the game.
how many goals did they get from a chain of uncontested posessions, yet we had more tackles?
no one aspect is the magic bullet.
to carry on about one stat is simpleton town, and i never thought you did. but hey if you want to put your hand up for that......
as i have said, a low tackle count is a symptom of the problem, not the problem.
whatever al, I respect you as a poster but i think you are lowering yourself with this. Just imagine how much more we wouldve lost by if we didnt tackle and pressure like we did? is the way Im looking at it.
The defensive application was faultless and I would love to see that week in week out, it was the silly unforced errors that cost us in the end. I cant recall them kicking too many goals from a chain of uncontested possies tbh, they seemed to work hard for their goals and got several lucky ones imo.
Another reason they beat us in run and spread was that Crowley dominated Lids our prime mover and the fact that Vlastuin and Helbig came in and dont offer as much run as Conca and King do at this stage of their development.
While we're playing the hypotheticals, do you think we wouldve won an open uncontested shootout against them over there? I think we wouldve gotten flogged.
actauly the defensive application was not faultless. with such a discrepancy in uncontested possessions, and when freo were able to score so much from unmarked players taking marks inside 50 it shows that our defensive aspect fell down once again when it counted.
the stats may show that out tackle count was up, but our defensive workrate was well down at times.
this is what i have have said time and time again. its's not about one stat, one aspect or one facet.
it's about the overall performance, and too many times we allowed freo players to run free and get easy possessions. they got too many easy goals and not on the fast break, which is different again. how many of the shots on goal from their smalls were from uncontested marks rather than crumbing goals? and marks from a good spot too, not deep in the pockets.
(im still unsure about the hypotheticals Im supposed to have raised. )
Agree to disagree, I stated my reasons as to why I think they ran and spread better than us and dont feel that was why we lost.
personally I think its a bit rich for a couple of posters to come out and say see we tackled well and still lost - all in an effort to show that our horrendously low tackle count in the first month is/was a non issue.
It was great to see it lift tonight and hope it stays that way for the rest of the year. Once Floss, Conca, Foley, King, Morris etc get into the side and get miles in the legs I dont think many teams will spread better so its a non issue for me. We were our own worse enemy tonight.
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No problem. :thumbsup
We are a forgiving lot on this site, unless username is concerned
poo Daniel how did you score a retraction.
I got called all sorts of names just because I had an opinion about how soft we were playing.
You would've thought I committed a major crime.
Opinions aren't right or wrong
I fail to see how having one can get some people resorting to name calling and questioning your loyalty to the club you love.
Your right about one thing we are a forgiving lot.
After all, we are all brothers in the tiger army. :thumbsup
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Sitting in QANTAS CLUB waiting for the red-eye home
I am peeved on so many levels
Why didn't they call for the review?
Why can we not follow instructions in the last 2 minutes to close out games :banghead
And seriously, folks would know I don't pot umpires for the sake of it but I reckon they were intimidated by the crowd tonight - they got some very soft frees. reckon the intimidation is worth 3-4 goals
and can I add forget the last 2 minutes, the 2nd qtr was the costly one. Again one shocking qtr cost us dearly
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Football can be such a cruel game
The ecstasy when Matt White kicked that brilliant goal
The agony when Ballentine kicked his final goal
I keep watching the final 2 minutes expecting to see a different result .
what if , what if, what if.
Another honourable loss to add to our collection.
The pain , the pain , the pain.
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VIDEO:
Match highlights
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-27/round-5-match-highlights
The final two minutes :banghead
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-04-26/freo-v-rich-watch-the-last-two-minutes
PICS:
AFL photos
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202013%20Rd%2005%20-%20Fremantle%20v%20Richmond&image_id=284659
Getty Images
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=159678636&EditorialProduct=Sport
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Hate to 'can' him on this occasion but Jack could have gone a little harder at Ballantyne in that crucial contest. He did however have a good game overall on fyfe. Why Grigg was loitering out back covering no-one is a different matter.
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No problem. :thumbsup
We are a forgiving lot on this site, unless username is concerned
has he been sending you sinister pm's too has he?
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No problem. :thumbsup
We are a forgiving lot on this site, unless username is concerned
has he been sending you sinister pm's too has he?
Didn't know he was a she! :shh
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Gee we play some dumb football.the amount of times they switched play with us not responding was just amazing.
i think they were able to switch play at will because we didnt have our attack dog(kingy) in to harass and force mistakes on our forward line
I thought Nahas was poor when he came on ,didnt give us much of a lift at all.i would think his days are numbered
And not sure about jacko..he gives us so much grunt and competitive effort around the ground,but his disposal is so awful that it really costs us....Do we drop him because of this or do we keep him because he gives so much in other areas?????
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If we want to be the side we think we can be we should of won that game pure and simple.
MASSIVE statement to make next week boys ..........
:banghead
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No problem. :thumbsup
We are a forgiving lot on this site, unless username is concerned
has he been sending you sinister pm's too has he?
Haha
No he used to, username that is, I think he realised I'm not fazed by that kind of stuff.
I find it funny actually.
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Gee we play some dumb football.the amount of times they switched play with us not responding was just amazing.
i think they were able to switch play at will because we didnt have our attack dog(kingy) in to harass and force mistakes on our forward line
I thought Nahas was poor when he came on ,didnt give us much of a lift at all.i would think his days are numbered
And not sure about jacko..he gives us so much grunt and competitive effort around the ground,but his disposal is so awful that it really costs us....Do we drop him because of this or do we keep him because he gives so much in other areas?????
The thing i find most painful about jacko is how slow he is when he takes possession in congestion. Often he seems to be tackled or dispossessed by the time he has decided what to with the ball. He is just incapable of shooting out a quick handball to a teammate when under pressure.
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And not sure about jacko..he gives us so much grunt and competitive effort around the ground,but his disposal is so awful that it really costs us....Do we drop him because of this or do we keep him because he gives so much in other areas?????
I am sick to absolute death of Jackson. I don't care how much so-called grunt and competitive effort he gives us. His poor decision-making, clumsiness, lack of awareness and consistent inability to hit a teammate by hand or foot, week in week out, make him a liability. Smart bloke (allegedly) but just a dumb, dumb footballer. His glaring errors last night included, falling into Mayne's back, and attempting to centre the ball after a mark at CHF only to kick to two Freo players, who rushed the ball away for a goal. And when Ballantyne kicked the winning goal, three guesses who it was it that shovelled the ball out to the open side of the goalsquare to allow the Freo players to run onto it en masse. If Dimma thinks that he's been our most effective player this year (as he stated coming into the Collingwood match, where Jacko put in another one of his insipid, ball-butchering performances) then he is seriously, seriously deluding himself. He would be the first player I'd offload at season's end. Should have been done years ago.
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Wow, we lost that game on so many levels its not funny! I am never one to umpire bash but if our great game continues to be umpired by crowds I am no sue if I can continue to follow it. :-\
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And not sure about jacko..he gives us so much grunt and competitive effort around the ground,but his disposal is so awful that it really costs us....Do we drop him because of this or do we keep him because he gives so much in other areas?????
I am sick to absolute death of Jackson. I don't care how much so-called grunt and competitive effort he gives us. His poor decision-making, clumsiness, lack of awareness and consistent inability to hit a teammate by hand or foot, week in week out, make him a liability. Smart bloke (allegedly) but just a dumb, dumb footballer. His glaring errors last night included, falling into Mayne's back, and attempting to centre the ball after a mark at CHF only to kick to two Freo players, who rushed the ball away for a goal. And when Ballantyne kicked the winning goal, three guesses who it was it that shovelled the ball out to the open side of the goalsquare to allow the Freo players to run onto it en masse. If Dimma thinks that he's been our most effective player this year (as he stated coming into the Collingwood match, where Jacko put in another one of his insipid, ball-butchering performances) then he is seriously, seriously deluding himself. He would be the first player I'd offload at season's end. Should have been done years ago.
REPORTED for abusing our best player
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Why Grigg was loitering out back covering no-one is a different matter.
Because that's what he always does, those helicopter kicks need space to launch
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chuck add pettard to the helicopter kick fraternity
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chuck at pettard to the helicopter kick fraternity
Yep
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Good effort by our boys tonight. Stuck at it all night.
It hurts now but I recon it might hurt even more come the end of the year.
Time will tell. Need to have a win next week to get back on track.
Then win the Port game and most would agree that at 5-2 is probably better than most would have had us.
Some work to do though, especially our half forwardline.. Non exsistant tonight.
Night all....
I think we can beat the cats BT. I said it a few weeks ago. I just think we are due to beat them and they are due for a loss.
Big open spaces of the G, hopefully Chapman is still out with that hamstring.
I'm more confident if beating the cats than if beating Freo tonight.
get off the pot
the cats will thump us
stop dreaming
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Not one of lifes optimists username?
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Gee we play some dumb football.the amount of times they switched play with us not responding was just amazing.
i think they were able to switch play at will because we didnt have our attack dog(kingy) in to harass and force mistakes on our forward line
I thought Nahas was poor when he came on ,didnt give us much of a lift at all.i would think his days are numbered
And not sure about jacko..he gives us so much grunt and competitive effort around the ground,but his disposal is so awful that it really costs us....Do we drop him because of this or do we keep him because he gives so much in other areas?????
i thought the INS were ordinary G, Helbig reminded of f f f f farmer...not up to the senior football, Nahas struggled to get into the game, eh s generally better than that...Batchelor was fairly quiet, not sure what job he had. for mine Jacko was fair way down my list of concerns, would have preferred Jack didnt allow his opponent to take 10 marks and rebound so effectivley, why the bleedin heck Lids wasnt taken to FF and jack either to the wing or off the ground amazes me coz the setup just played into freos hands all night...we played 50 minutes of good footy and lost by a point...plenty of work to do in review, glad we re back at the G next week, :shh
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Agreed Bo moving Lids to FF seemed the logical thing to do,and maybe even push jack up the ground .
Bo I reckon we play helbig out of position .he is an out and out midfielder in my opinion,not a tagger or backman.
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Crunchtime on SEN 1116 just played an audio snippet of dimmas press conference and Anthony Hudson from crunchtime had said that a release from Mark Evans/AFL had been released and stated that the matty white goal SHOULD have been a goal review scenario....
Sorry no link
Too late, coulda woulda shudda GTFOH
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Crunchtime on SEN 1116 just played an audio snippet of dimmas press conference and Anthony Hudson from crunchtime had said that a release from Mark Evans/AFL had been released and stated that the matty white goal SHOULD have been a goal review scenario....
Sorry no link
Too late, coulda woulda shudda GTFOH
Marvelous just bloody marvelous :o
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Don't like making a habit of criticising umpires but I I was confused last night in relation to the holding the ball rule. We seem to do the right thing and kept the ball under a tackled player however on numerous occasions they just collapsed themselves as soon as they felt impact and received free kicks for in the back. In the last quarter I counted at least 3 soft frees for the same thing. The problem is that next week we will attempt the same thing and it will go the other way.
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i have to admit that this year the umpiring across the board has been awful
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No problem. :thumbsup
We are a forgiving lot on this site, unless username is concerned
lick s
:lol
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Don't like making a habit of criticising umpires but I I was confused last night in relation to the holding the ball rule. We seem to do the right thing and kept the ball under a tackled player however on numerous occasions they just collapsed themselves as soon as they felt impact and received free kicks for in the back. In the last quarter I counted at least 3 soft frees for the same thing. The problem is that next week we will attempt the same thing and it will go the other way.
In this case the umps have no feel for the game and are dumbarses for continually paying this free. Its so obvious when a player just collapses fwd as soon as they feel contact. Actually 2 of our players who are really good at stopping this are Conca and Morris, Ive seen both on a few occassions this season tackle and fall sideways bringing the collapsing player to ground with them thus not giving away the soft frees. Some of our other players are little slower in catching on and continue to be fooled by their opponents. Any surprise Edwards and jackson both got done for it last night? :rollin
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in most cases the umps dont have a feel for game, and there in lies a big part of the problem....besides the always tinkering with the rules.
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in most cases the umps dont have a feel for game, and there in lies a big part of the problem....besides the always tinkering with the rules.
Yep Razor and co prove it week after week by constantly being out of position at top pages and guessing what to pay
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Just watched the after match press conference on the AFL channel and I've got to say that Ross Lyon was excellent. Very honest in his assessment of the game and individuals.
Even mentioned he has near no influence during game day but expects his players to inplement the methods hes put in place.
It was different in a way that most coaches all sound the same to me with same old scripted answers week in week out.
I'm not sure he's always this way and I've never really paid much attention to his pressers before but I certainly will in the future.
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Never have denied Ross Lyon is an intelligent and calculating person but part of his persona is at times to also come across as being as exciting as a bathroom rug.
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Never have denied Ross Lyon is an intelligent and calculating person but part of his persona is at times to also come across as being as exciting as a bathroom rug.
Or as exciting as Dimma's lovemaking...........................apparently. :whistle
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Comes across as smug and arrogant to me. Like he's having a private little joke that he wont let the rest of us in on. I'd love for us to take him down a peg or two, but it probably wont happen in my lifetime.
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Ross Lyon is an outstanding coach. Dont like the way his sides play footy but you can see wherever he goes his players implement his football philosophy and follow his instructions. Seems to be a top bloke as well.
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Ross Lyon is an outstanding coach. Dont like the way his sides play footy but you can see wherever he goes his players implement his football philosophy and follow his instructions. Seems to be a top bloke as well.
And we were the first side he coached as an assistant to Walls.
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Ross might be a top bloke but the style of football his teams play is just awful..I would imagine that style will get you to finals but wont win you the big one
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I guess the good thing about Ross's style of football is that every opposition is always in with the chance,even the east jerusalem seconds
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Comes across as smug and arrogant to me. Like he's having a private little joke that he wont let the rest of us in on. I'd love for us to take him down a peg or two, but it probably wont happen in my lifetime.
He may have been in the past I have never noticed to be honest.
But after this game he certainly wasn't smug or arrogant at all.
It was just a real honest assessment of the game, his team and his players.
Even the controversial goal he answered honestly talked about how he was on the end of one in the granny when the tomahawk kicked a goal that hit the post.
Thought he was excellent.
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Ross might be a top bloke but the style of football his teams play is just awful..I would imagine that style will get you to finals but wont win you the big one
It's Roos type philospohy and he was one kick away from going back to back. Conversely he was one kick away from going back to back runners up.
As for Ross being a long term deputy to Roos he was unlucky in 09 with the Tomahawk post incident and a couple of his lesser types in McQualter and Schneider missing sitters and in 2010 if Milne was more alert he may have broken the ice. But that may also say more about the culture at the club over 100+ years than the style of footy Ross gets his teams to adopt. In most cases the best defensive team will always beat the best attacking team and that is the philosophy he uses. Look at Geelong in the 90's West Coast and Carlton took them to the sword in 3 GF's.
I actually like Ross even though his style of footy is drab. He calls it as he sees it and doesn't give the same scripted choreographed answers that some blokes seem to churn out week after week.
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Respected Lyon as a player and a coach but just want to beat a side coached by him. Hate Freo. I want us to have revenge
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Charges Laid:
Nathan Fyfe, Fremantle, has been charged with a level two kicking offence (250 demerit points, two-match sanction) for kicking Daniel Jackson, Richmond, during the second quarter of the Round Five match between Fremantle and Richmond, played at Patersons Stadium on Friday April 26, 2013.
In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Richmond Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a level two offence, drawing 250 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 187.50 points and a one-match sanction.
Brad Helbig, Richmond, has been charged with a first offence for misconduct ($1200 sanction) for misconduct in that he stood on the hand of Danyle Pearce, Fremantle, during the third quarter of the Round Five match between Richmond and Fremantle, played at Patersons Stadium on Friday April 26, 2013.
In summary, he can accept a $900 sanction with an early plea.
A first offence for misconduct is a $1200 sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a $900 sanction.
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Brad Helbig has been cited by the MRP for standing on Daniel Pearce's hand and can accept a $900 fine ::)
And Fyfe from Freo cops a week for kicking Jacko.
Got to say kicking is a scumbag act
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Fyfe was cited for kicking Richmond's Daniel Jackson during the second quarter of Freo's one-point win over the Tigers on Friday night.
His initial sanction was two matches, but he can have the ban reduced to one if he pleads guilty.
Richmond's Brad Helbig was cited for misconduct after standing on the hand of Freo's Danyle Pearce in the first quarter of the same game.
Helbig can accept a $900 fine.
From:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-29/fyfe-glass-goodes-all-face-bans
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Laughable really, 1 week for kicking
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Laughable really, 1 week for kicking
I saw this at the time it happened I might of mentioned it I can't remember but it looked ordinary.
I think Fyfe had enough of Jackson by then and had a brain fade I don't think Jacko was too fazed.
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the system is a joke. the clowns are running the circus.
even in the days when thuggery was commonplace, a player kicking someone was dealt harshly with, by the tribunual and the players on the ground
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LOL what type of pansy kicks these days. Throw a punch you skirt.
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Is kicking that much worse than stomping on someones hand?
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Is kicking that much worse than stomping on someones hand?
I would say yes, can do far worse damage kicking someone than standing or even stomping.
BTW Stomping? It says Helbig stood on his hand not stomped on it.
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He accidentally stood on his hand, and now he stomped on it? cool story bro
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I like brad helbig 8)
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Brad Helbig is a dirty sniping prick.
We need a few more of them. :shh
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yessssssssss tigs :clapping
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick and Lyon):
Fremantle v Richmond
9 Luke McPharlin (Frem)
8 Jonathon Griffin (Frem)
5 Ty Vickery (Rich)
4 Hayden Ballantyne (Frem)
2 Dustin Martin (Rich)
1 Brandon Ellis (Rich)
1 Chris Knights (Rich)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-30/exdemons-prospering
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yessssssssss tigs :clapping
:thumbsup
I should add if you can do it without getting suspended and only cop a fine instead even better. Well done Bradley. :clapping Probably get dropped this week anyway. :whistle
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He accidentally stood on his hand, and now he stomped on it? cool story bro
If you believe it was an accident you're kidding yourself
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BTW Fyfe is contesting
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BTW Fyfe is contesting
Really? It seemed pretty blatant from what I can remember.
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BTW Fyfe is contesting
Haven't read the report. If he loses will he cop 2 weeks or just stay at 1? If it stays at 1 then may as well contest it.
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Fremantle will challenge the two-match suspension handed down to Nat Fyfe by the AFL's match review panel.
Fyfe was charged with a level two offence for kicking Richmond’s Daniel Jackson during the second quarter of last Friday’s match at Patersons Stadium.
Because he had no existing bad record, Fyfe could have accepted a one-match sanction with an early plea.
If the challenge is successful, the star midfielder will be available to take on the Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Satdium this Saturday night.
However, should Fremantle fail to have the verdict overturned, Fyfe will also miss the following week’s game against Collingwood at Patersons Stadium.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-30/fyfe-to-challenge-kicking-ban
Charges Laid:
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Richmond Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a level two offence, drawing 250 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 187.50 points and a one-match sanction.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-29/mrp-full-statement-round-five
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Can't work that one out. If he accepts he misses the Gold Coast game only. If he challenges and loses then he also misses the Collingwood game. I know which game would be much more important to have him for! :o
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:rollin :rollin
Well contesting didn't work for Fyfe
:rollin :rollin
He's now out for 2 games
Moron :laugh: ;D
:jump
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:rollin :rollin
Well contesting didn't work for Fyfe
:rollin :rollin
He's now out for 2 games
Moron :laugh: ;D
:jump
:lol :scream :scream :lol
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:rollin :rollin
Well contesting didn't work for Fyfe
:rollin :rollin
He's now out for 2 games
Moron :laugh: ;D
:jump
:lol
consume excrement and perish.