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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on April 25, 2013, 06:18:10 PM
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Coming up on Ch7 shortly
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INS: Vlaustin, batchelor, Helbig, White
OUTS: Morris, Conca, Chaplin, Tuck
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They said Tuck was being rested :(
Morris suspended, they other 2 out injured
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I think the Tuck thing may have more to it.
If anything if he has an inability to get to the stoppages then against Freo there'll be plenty due to them bottling up the play so I would've thought he would have been valuable tomorrow.
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i heard he's finding the extra pace very hard.. Let him rest till it gets wet and the game slows down
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Tuck :gobdrop
Good to see the big fella in
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I'm just thinking there may be more to this story than merely an issue with inability in keeping up with the play.
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On Tucky I wonder how much impact this change in diet he's had to make is having as well.
Remember reading in the off season they had discovered something he'd been suffering from that meant a change in diet. For the life I can't remember what the bloody condition was though :wallywink
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I'm just thinking there may be more to this story than merely an issue with inability in keeping up with the play.
Maybe.. he's a different cat is Tucky, and he has history!
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Looking at the ins I reckon we might be going to take a 'speed kills' approach and get around their choking defence by using our pace.
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On Tucky I wonder how much impact this change in diet he's had to make is having as well.
Remember reading in the off season they had discovered something he'd been suffering from that meant a change in diet. For the life I can't remember what the bloody condition was though :wallywink
coeliac disease,
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Looking at the ins I reckon we might be going to take a 'speed kills' approach and get around their choking defence by using our pace.
Maybe they might be looking to use the tactic Essendon used in the second half against Freo and use pace and spread and long kicking to get over the flood and expose them out the back.
We need someone to clean up McPharlin too like Ryder did a fortnight ago. Someone who won't be missed in the next few weeks because of suspension.
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We need someone to clean up McPharlin too like Ryder did a fortnight ago. Someone who won't be missed in the next few weeks because of suspension.
Maybe Vickery?
Nah forget that idea :rollin :rollin
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I'm just thinking there may be more to this story than merely an issue with inability in keeping up with the play.
Maybe.. he's a different cat is Tucky, and he has history!
Just what are you implying here, benggal? Shane is a fantastic clubman and will do anything asked of him.
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RICHMOND
B Jake Batchelor , Alex Rance , Brad Helbig
HB Dylan Grimes , Ricky Petterd , Bachar Houli
C Chris Newman , Trent Cotchin , Matt White
HF Brett Deledio , Shane Edwards , Daniel Jackson
F Luke McGuane , Jack Riewoldt , Ty Vickery
FOL Ivan Maric , Dustin Martin , Nick Vlastuin
I/C Jake King , Brandon Ellis , Chris Knights , Shaun Grigg
EMG Aaron Edwards , Robin Nahas , Matt Dea
IN: Matt White , Brad Helbig , Jake Batchelor , Nick Vlastuin
OUT: Reece Conca (Foot), Troy Chaplin (Calf), Steven Morris (Suspension), Shane Tuck (Rested)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season/team-announcement
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Out of interest ... The opposition
FREMANTLE
B Lee Spurr, Zac Dawson, Michael Johnson
HB Clancee Pearce, Luke McPharlin, Paul Duffield
C Tendai Mzungu, Ryan Crowley, Danyle Pearce
HF Hayden Ballantyne, Kepler Bradley, Nathan Fyfe
F Jack Hannath, Chris Mayne, Michael Walters
FOL Jonathon Griffin, David Mundy, Stephen Hill
I/C Lachie Neale, Garrick Ibbotson, Matt De Boer, Michael Barlow
EMG Alex Silvagni, Hayden Crozier, Nick Suban
IN
Garrick Ibbotson, Luke McPharlin, Jack Hannath
OUT
Cameron Sutcliffe (Omitted), Nick Suban (Omitted), Tanner Smith (Hamstring)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season/team-announcement
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I'm just thinking there may be more to this story than merely an issue with inability in keeping up with the play.
Maybe.. he's a different cat is Tucky, and he has history!
Just what are you implying here, benggal? Shane is a fantastic clubman and will do anything asked of him.
He's a fantastic clubman. Tucky is one of my faves. But he did have an issue a few seasons back
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Although still could possibly be anyone looking at that bench I hope Ellis isn't the sub out of them.
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Looking at the ins I reckon we might be going to take a 'speed kills' approach and get around their choking defence by using our pace.
you may be onto something there smokey. White has hardly set the world on fire so far for coburg, so perhaps it is his pace that gets him a guernsey?
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I'm just thinking there may be more to this story than merely an issue with inability in keeping up with the play.
Maybe.. he's a different cat is Tucky, and he has history!
Just what are you implying here, benggal? Shane is a fantastic clubman and will do anything asked of him.
He's a fantastic clubman. Tucky is one of my faves. But he did have an issue a few seasons back
Issues that those outside the club shouldn't really know about. Loose lips sink ships. Every player is different of course. Travelling along nicely under Hardwick these days which is good to see
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Looking at the ins I reckon we might be going to take a 'speed kills' approach and get around their choking defence by using our pace.
you may be onto something there smokey. White has hardly set the world on fire so far for coburg, so perhaps it is his pace that gets him a guernsey?
White's been named in the best for Coburg in his first 2 games al, and was then taken off after a half last week so wasn't a chance to get n the best. Also his pre-season form was very good probably deserved a game ahead of a couple of others
But agree it's his pace on Subi that's probably got him a game
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God help us all if Hannath tears us a new one. Claw will be unbearable! ;D
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Possibly Phillip but footballers have family and friends too that have no connection to footy clubs.
I still think his issue(s) are more than just a mere issue regarding inability to get to contests. Nothing sinister as what you may be implying I think it is footy related on something he is doing or not doing.
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I thought tuck was ok in the first half last week.
Ellis and petterd in our first 22 worry me.
Happy to be proven wrong though
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God help us all if Hannath tears us a new one. Claw will be unbearable! ;D
Oh no he'll post 3 times and it will be longer than War and Peace. :lol :rollin :lol
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Regarding Tuck, is there more to it? No one has said anything so I thought I was imagining it. I remember on Saturday lunging at I think was Harry O and he fell forward. It looked like hurt himself. He went to the bench straight after and was moments later subbed off. I'm not a masochist so I haven't watched the replay. Did anyone else notice it?
For the changes, four changes is huge. Individually not bad but as a whole that's a massive change of experience and maturity. Not expecting much to be honest.
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God help us all if Hannath tears us a new one. Claw will be unbearable! ;D
Oh no he'll post 3 times and it will be longer than War and Peace. :lol :rollin :lol
:lol
Will only be 3 posts because he keeps hitting the character limit.
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Whatever it is I hope he sorts it out soon and im sure we all back him 100% here :thumbsup
Their list looks strong
Who tags ballantyne?
And will jacko go to fyfe or hill? Maybe send him to tag the tagger in crowley and let our boys run rampant?
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Whatever it is I hope he sorts it out soon and im sure we all back him 100% here :thumbsup
Their list looks strong
Who tags ballantyne?
And will jacko go to fyfe or hill? Maybe send him to tag the tagger in crowley and let our boys run rampant?
Daniel Jackson? Wouldn't trust that boy to carry a box of eggs across the road let alone go to Nathan Fyfe.
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Who tags ballantyne?
Wouldn't be surprsied if they give the job to Grimes
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work out who need a rest for the next 2 or 3 weeks and give them the job.
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Four Tiger changes
By richmondfc.com.au
Exclusive to richmondfc.com.au 6:00pm AEST Thursday, April 25, 2013
Richmond has made four changes for Friday night’s Round 5 clash with Fremantle at Patersons Stadium.
The Tigers’ first pick (No. 9 overall) in the 2012 AFL National Draft, Nick Vlastuin, will make his AFL debut.
Vlastuin, a talented, tough, inside midfielder, who captained Vic Metro in last year’s national under-18 championships, has been knocking on the door of senior selection since showing impressive form with the Tigers in the league’s pre-season competition.
Another promising, young Richmond midfielder, Brad Helbig, has been recalled to the side after a string of strong performances at VFL level with Coburg.
Helbig, who was sidelined for a lengthy period last season with a torn ligament in his left foot, has played a total of 15 league games since debuting in 2011.
Also returning to the Tigers’ line-up for the match against the Dockers are running, left-foot defender Jake Batchelor and speedy utility Matthew White.
Those four players replace Steven Morris (suspended), Troy Chaplin (calf injury), Reece Conca (foot injury) and Shane Tuck (rested).
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-25/four-tiger-changes
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Hmmmm Tucky rested
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So Tuck has been dropped because he doesn't work back defensively and he doesn't look for players running past and just kicks long.
Is Chaplin out because of a calf or his concussion???
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So Tuck has been dropped because he doesn't work back defensively and he doesn't look for players running past and just kicks long.
Is Chaplin out because of a calf or his concussion???
Chaplin is out because of the calf
And Tuck is being rested
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God help us all if Hannath tears us a new one. Claw will be unbearable! ;D
na im over it.
i just felt hannath was well worth giving a game to. i prefered a 21 yr old over a 30 yr old in stephenson. in all honesty we probably should have taken both hannath and sephenson.
just on the big o i really think he should be playing this game. i also think griffiths should be too.
how short is the backline definately one tall short. you can bet both hannath and griffen will rest forward.
would take nahas over white and every one knows im no fan of nahas.
really pleased to see vlastuin and helbig get a game. would have played dea instead of batchelor.
really shocked tuck is not playing we wont win the clearances without him and why drop your biggest mid against a side that boasts many big mids.
looking at the named teams heres a possible matchup scenario and like for like match ups..
B/ spurr 182/83 dawson 197/93 - johnson 195/90
F/ edwards 182/83 - vickery 200/97 - mcguane 192/92
HB/ pearce 182/89 - mcpharlin 192/92 - duffield 188/86
HF/ jackson 188/92 - riewoldt 195/95 - deledio 188/88
C/ mzungu 182/84 - crowley 188/89 - pearce 178/80
C/ newman 183/81 - cotchin 185/85 - white 180/84
HF/ ballantyne 174/78 - bradley 198/100 - fyfe 190/88
HB/ houli 180/84 - rance 194/96 - petterd 185/85
F/ hannath 201/102 - mayne 188/87 - walters 177/77
B/ grimes 193/88 - batchelor 188/87 - helbig 185/85
R/ griffen 201/102 - mundy 192/91 - hill 182/82
R/ maric 200/102 - martin 187/89 - vlaustin 187/86
INT/neale 176/81- ibbotson 186/86 - deboar 186/85 - barlow 189/91. cant believe they will start barlow as a sub. i hope they do.
INT/ king 178/82 - ellis 181/81 - knights 184/84 - grigg 190/85
IMO clearly one tall defender shy they want to hope that 1/ rance and grimes can stand up and dont get hurt and 2/ they dont have to make changes. team also lacks a heap of polish.on every line there is a poor kick or deision maker two in some cases. in a like for like i reckon they have us covered have more options and better structure..
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What tall 2 backs to cover 2 tall forwards isn't good enough? Need 3 to cover the 2? What about when we play teams with 3 tall forwards, do we play 4 tall backs?
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What tall 2 backs to cover 2 tall forwards isn't good enough? Need 3 to cover the 2? What about when we play teams with 3 tall forwards, do we play 4 tall backs?
mate you should learn from other sides most go with 3 genuine talls regardless of opposition they dont f***c around with their structures down back it doesnt change from week to week.
do you think rance on bradley size height a good match up without a chop out froma third tall. do you think grimes on hannath a good match up. they wont get a hand from batchelor he will have his hands full with mayne. petterd is undermanned on fyfe.
how much better if it went
hannath v griffiths. bradley v rance. grimes v mayne. and batchelor v fyfe. dont kid yourself we are under sized and short in the back half when it comes to like for like match ups. griffiths would ease that problem no end.
a question would you even blink if chaplin, rance and grimes played every week if fit even if the opposition only had 2 genuine talls. i dont think so. defensive structure is everything why does our change every week. if chaplin was fit he would be playing along with rance and grmes.
chris mayne may only be 6ft 3 but he good in the air. why give a mug an even break.
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Good changes actually, only one I didn't call was White, only because I forgot about him..looks like we have gone for pace. Good side for that oval. I think they will play Ellis and sub White.
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I think they will play Ellis and sub White.
Yeah that makes sense.
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nah, white can run all day.
One of the kids will be sub.
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Really like the team we have in. Batchelor can take the big gimp Bradley. Helbig and Vlastuin add much needed tackle pressure and Whitey as an impact player off the bench with his speed.
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I think they will play Ellis and sub White.
Sounds racist.
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Really like the team we have in. Batchelor can take the big gimp Bradley. Helbig and Vlastuin add much needed tackle pressure and Whitey as an impact player off the bench with his speed.
Inb4 we make Kepller look like team of the century full forward with 6 goals
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nah, white can run all day.
One of the kids will be sub.
It's not about that, it's the make up of the team and Ellis will be more match fit at this level and game savvy, White will probably come on when the game slows down, that way he can use his pace. My opinion anyway.
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Whatever it is I hope he sorts it out soon and im sure we all back him 100% here :thumbsup
Their list looks strong
Who tags ballantyne?
And will jacko go to fyfe or hill? Maybe send him to tag the tagger in crowley and let our boys run rampant?
Daniel Jackson? Wouldn't trust that boy to carry a box of eggs across the road let alone go to Nathan Fyfe.
I like the cut of your jib, Philldo
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I think they will play Ellis and sub White.
Sounds racist.
:lol
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Maybe the Tuck omission is due to our low tackling numbers? :-\ We will need players who can run and chase all day on that oval. I don't have high hopes for this game....
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Maybe the Tuck omission is due to our low tackling numbers? :-\ We will need players who can run and chase all day on that oval. I don't have high hopes for this game....
which white can do, which is why i doubt he will be sub.
nah, white can run all day.
One of the kids will be sub.
It's not about that, it's the make up of the team and Ellis will be more match fit at this level and game savvy, White will probably come on when the game slows down, that way he can use his pace. My opinion anyway.
see above.
of course it is about that. why waste a bloke who has a mature body and the fitness/stamina to run all day as a sub, particularly on a big ground against a side that tries to choke the crap out of the game?
It's the kids that need to come when the pace is out of the game. white will still be running and creating space at the end of game.how much of the ball he gets and what he does with it.....? well, thats another thing.
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What tall 2 backs to cover 2 tall forwards isn't good enough? Need 3 to cover the 2? What about when we play teams with 3 tall forwards, do we play 4 tall backs?
mate you should learn from other sides most go with 3 genuine talls regardless of opposition they dont f***c around with their structures down back it doesnt change from week to week.
do you think rance on bradley size height a good match up without a chop out froma third tall. do you think grimes on hannath a good match up. they wont get a hand from batchelor he will have his hands full with mayne. petterd is undermanned on fyfe.
how much better if it went
hannath v griffiths. bradley v rance. grimes v mayne. and batchelor v fyfe. dont kid yourself we are under sized and short in the back half when it comes to like for like match ups. griffiths would ease that problem no end.
a question would you even blink if chaplin, rance and grimes played every week if fit even if the opposition only had 2 genuine talls. i dont think so. defensive structure is everything why does our change every week. if chaplin was fit he would be playing along with rance and grmes.
chris mayne may only be 6ft 3 but he good in the air. why give a mug an even break.
Someone had to come in for Chappy otherwise it would be him not Batch but Batch can play that tall role, better than Griff IMO. So we had absolutely no choice in keeping our structure with Chaplin injured. I don't think those match ups at all look better but again thats my opinion.
A thing you seem to be ignoring is Griff and Astbury were both injured.
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Who's the sub?
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Hope it's not Vlas, Ive got him on the ground in supercoach
I'm tipping Knights, based on nothing
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Who's the sub?
It hasn't been announced yet. My guess would be either Ellis again or Vlastuin.
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Who's the sub?
It hasn't been announced yet. My guess would be either Ellis again or Vlastuin.
Ok, cheers, thought Vlastuin would of lined up on prickentine...
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Richmond FC twitter:
"Hearing rumors of a late change...will know shortly #aflfreotigers"
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Not confirmed but speculation says it's Kingy who's out.
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Word is Nahas is in (not confirmed).
Late change for Freo as well.
Fremantle Dockers twitter:
LATE CHANGE: Paul Duffield is out and replaced by Nick Suban, who will be our sub #AFLFreoTigers #GoFreo @AFL
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Nahass
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Confirmed - Kingy out and Nahas in who will be the sub.
AFL twitter:
#AFLFreoTigers -
Freo - Out - Duffield. In - Suban (starting sub).
Rich - Out - King. In - Nahas (starting sub)
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Not surprising, King looked in a fair bit of pain last week
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pity, the one bloke likely to grind ballantine's face into the dirt.
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Kingy has strength but not as quick as he once was, Nahas is quicker and might suit the wide expanses of Subi a little better.
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yeah, true.
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Kingy didn't recover from the corky he had. So he should be right for next week.