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Title: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on April 26, 2013, 04:23:12 AM
Richmond moves on contracts

   Jake Niall
    The Age
    April 26, 2013


Richmond has signalled confidence in the future of Dustin Martin at the club by instigating contract talks aimed at securing Martin, skipper Trent Cotchin and Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt in coming weeks.

The Tigers hope to have that talented trio - regarded as three of their top four - signed over the next month, along with emerging defender Dylan Grimes and key back Alex Rance.

But contract talks with Martin are less advanced than those with Cotchin, whom the club has indicated it is willing to sign on a long-term deal, but who also has the option of signing a two-year deal that would make him a restricted free agent at the end of 2015.

The Tigers are facing pressure on their salary cap, which is already tight, due to having elite players coming out of contract this year and also the handicap of having very little extra space created by the veterans allowance.

The Tigers have only Chris Newman on the veterans list, which gives clubs an extra $112,000 per veteran. Geelong, which has several veterans with 10-plus years on its list, in effect can pay its playing list $500,000 or more than Richmond.

Richmond football operations general manager Daniel Richardson confirmed the Tigers had started discussions with the managements of those five players - Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance - and that the club hoped to have them tied up ''in the next month or so''.

He said the discussions about Martin were ''preliminary''.

But the mere fact the Tigers have spoken to Martin's manager, Ralph Carr, about a new contract confirms they are happy with the progress of Martin, whose future was the subject of much discussion over summer and whom the club had been concerned about.

Martin has been consistent in Richmond's four games to date - he was best afield against the Bulldogs and a good contributor in the other three games - with perhaps the only rider that he could improve his ability to run out games.

Cotchin is in his sixth year with the Tigers and would qualify as a restricted free agent if he signed a two-year deal. Regardless of the term, he is certain to become the club's highest-paid player, ahead of Brett Deledio, who signed a hefty five-year contract last year.

Deledio will be eligible for veteran status in 2015, after completing his 10th year, but the Tigers' relative youth and lack of long-term senior players has deprived them of that veterans list advantage enjoyed by the likes of Geelong, Sydney and West Coast.

Grimes, whose career has been interrupted by a succession of hamstring injuries, is highly regarded.

The Tigers also have their top draft pick from 2010, Reece Conca, and midfielder Daniel Jackson coming out of contract this year.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-moves-on-contracts-20130425-2ihje.html#ixzz2RV6N7x1t
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: yellowandback on April 26, 2013, 05:50:45 AM
Pardon the obvious question but how on earth can we even be close to our salary cap?
Our list, our win/loss record over the past 5 years, the lessons that should've been learnt from previous administrations?

Is our club living in chocolate land?

The next 3-5 years should be about us topping up our list with quality free agents - like the Hawks and the Pies who never seem to have these issues.

I actually cannot believe this is true - if it is then Craig Cameron's legacy takes on a whole different angle.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: taztiger4 on April 26, 2013, 07:44:38 AM
Pardon the obvious question but how on earth can we even be close to our salary cap?
Our list, our win/loss record over the past 5 years, the lessons that should've been learnt from previous administrations?

Is our club living in chocolate land?

The next 3-5 years should be about us topping up our list with quality free agents - like the Hawks and the Pies who never seem to have these issues.

I actually cannot believe this is true - if it is then Craig Cameron's legacy takes on a whole different angle.


Everyone club has to pay 92.5% of the cap
Doesnt need a lot to get close to 100%
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 26, 2013, 07:52:19 AM
Pardon the obvious question but how on earth can we even be close to our salary cap?

Would think quite easily now. Cotchin, Deledio, Martin & Reiwoldt would command massive $$$ on the open market so even if don't have to pay them market value we would still need to pay them big $$$

The next 3-5 years should be about us topping up our list with quality free agents - like the Hawks and the Pies who never seem to have these issues.


The Pies have never had these issues? You are kidding, it has been reported over the last couple of years when the likes of Cloke, Pendlebury and now Thomas coming out of contract that they have struggle to fit them all in and have a "tight cap". Why do you think they happily let Dawes go to Melb when he was contracted? It frees up space. Just because clubs don't lose players doesn't mean they there isn't pressure on their salary cap.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: JVT on April 26, 2013, 07:54:45 AM
Maybe they are front loading Deledio's 5 year contract? Maybe they aren't near the full salary cap and this is rubbish  :rollin

Much better these days in how things are handled, I'm sure they'll sort it out  :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 26, 2013, 09:40:18 AM
Wtf is this 2 year deal business for Cotchin so he can become a free agent?

Sign for 5, Trent.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 26, 2013, 09:52:05 AM
Must sign them all and for a lengthy period, 5 years for each.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on April 26, 2013, 10:05:09 AM
Wtf is this 2 year deal business for Cotchin so he can become a free agent?

Sign for 5, Trent.
Journalistic licence saying he "could" sign one if he wanted to. Not that there is one on the table or that he asked for one. Made it sound like it could happen though.  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 26, 2013, 10:19:07 AM
Wtf is this 2 year deal business for Cotchin so he can become a free agent?

Sign for 5, Trent.
Journalistic licence saying he "could" sign one if he wanted to. Not that there is one on the table or that he asked for one. Made it sound like it could happen though.  ::)

It'll be a 5 year deal for sure. We didn't get Dan Richo for nothing.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 26, 2013, 10:25:42 AM
Niall has NFI how close to the cap we are  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on April 26, 2013, 11:02:06 AM
Niall has NFI how close to the cap we are  :shh

I bet you he does. It's somewhere between 92.5 and 100%.  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: gerkin greg on April 26, 2013, 11:22:44 AM
bet he doesnt
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 26, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
Must sign them all and for a lengthy period, 5 years for each.
Cotch-5
Martin-2
Jack-Do we have 6 mnth contracts?
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on April 26, 2013, 11:39:30 AM
bet he doesnt

Just checked with my source and Jake Niall's calculations have us at 103.845% of the cap. So yes you win the bet.  :bow
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: Yeahright on April 26, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
Pardon the obvious question but how on earth can we even be close to our salary cap?

Would think quite easily now. Cotchin, Deledio, Martin & Reiwoldt would command massive $$$ on the open market so even if don't have to pay them market value we would still need to pay them big $$$


They all wouldn't be on massive $$$ yet would they (apart from Deledio)? I can understand now they all could ask for decent pay checks and will make it tight, but the article says that it is already tight. I can't imagine Cotchin, Martin and Riewoldt already being on massive money.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: tony_montana on April 26, 2013, 01:44:54 PM
At the fan forum night last year Helmut told us they had front loaded most of the contracts so going by that I doubt it would be that tight.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: dwaino on April 26, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
Gale and the club were banging on how we were all cherry ripe for free agency and securing our own players only a year or two back.

Pretty sure Niall was just making it up as he went.
Title: Re: Richmond moves on contracts of Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Grimes and Rance (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on April 26, 2013, 05:15:29 PM
i will watch with interest how Ralph Carr handles Martins
contract situation.

Ralphy loves his blooze boys.