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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 29, 2013, 11:10:01 PM
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60,000 expected according the MCG website ....
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Event: AFL Round 6
Teams: Richmond v Geelong Cats
Date: Saturday May 4, 2013
Start time: 7.40pm
Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 5.30pm
MCC members: 5.00pm
Car park opening:
Gate 3: 1.30pm
Gate 5: 3.00pm
Gate 6: 4.00pm
Gate 7: 2.30pm (media, corporate and disabled pass holders only)
Expected attendance: 60,000
General admission seating:
Ponsford Stand
Q29-Q36
Great Southern Stand
M1-M6
Q1-Q15 1/2
P1-P6
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57
Cheersquad allocation:
Richmond: Bays M3-M4 rows A-K
Geelong: Bay M33 rows A-S
Tickets:
Available thorugh Ticketek (http://)http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0613
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=1dbdfcb2-3aa2-4811-badf-07c44313ffb1
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We need to pinch a few of these 60/40 games in order to make the eight. Very important match on Saturday night.
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Not confident at all
Was confident going in against Freo but not this week
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Not confident at all
Was confident going in against Freo but not this week
I'm worried about their spread.
Collingwood annihilated us in the 3rd quarter with their run and spread.
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tigers by 26 points. :thumbsup
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onya! :thumbsup
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Against the more experienced campaigners such as the Pies and Cats I fear, our best players are matched by their best so it becomes a battle of depth. Unfortunately the chinks in our armour still appear more vulnerable than there's. Under the relentless pressure of the contest such sides bring, players such as Petterd, Ellis, Jackson, Maric and Rance's flaws are brought to the fore where normally we/they cover them allowing them to predominately use their strengths. I fear that unless our quality midfielders can dominate theirs then the Cats pressure and experienced heads will win easily.
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Preview: Tigers v Cats
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
Tuesday, April 30, 2013
SUMMARY:
After making a 3-0 start to the season, Richmond has suffered back-to-back defeats and needs to rebound from a heartbreaking one-point loss to Fremantle in Perth last Friday night. Geelong, meanwhile, is one of just three undefeated teams, having done enough against the Western Bulldogs in round five. After their round-four loss to Collingwood, Saturday night presents the Tigers with another chance to prove themselves against a competition heavyweight.
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Saturday May 4, 7.40pm
LAST FIVE TIMES
R4, 2012, Geelong 11.9 (75) d Richmond 9.11 (65) at Simonds Stadium
R18, 2011, Geelong 17.11 (113) d Richmond 7.9 (51) at Etihad Stadium
R6, 2010, Geelong 24.17 (161) d Richmond 7.11 (53) at Simonds Stadium
R2, 2009, Geelong 15.15 (105) d Richmond 13.7 (85) at Simonds Stadium
R18, 2008, Geelong 20.14 (134) d Richmond 10.11 (71) at Etihad Stadium
THE SIX POINTS
1. The Cats have dominated the Tigers in recent seasons, winning the last eight contests including five by more than 60 points.
2. Richmond last defeated Geelong in round nine, 2006, its only win from the past 16 contests between the sides.
3. This is the first MCG match between the sides since 2008 and the 38th overall, with 19 wins to 18 in the Cats' favour.
4. Richmond is ranked last for tackles this season, averaging only 47 per game.
5. Neither team has performed well with clearances in 2013. Richmond is ranked 13th; Geelong is last.
6. No team has taken the ball inside 50 more times in 2013 than Geelong, with an average of 63 per game.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-30/preview-tigers-v-cats
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Not confident at all
Was confident going in against Freo but not this week
More confident against the cats than Freo. We cannot handle close checking teams such as Freo. We do better against free running teams that don't crowd us. That said, the cats have been in awesome form this year. Could be an upset though. Hope Chimp comes up!
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Not confident at all
Was confident going in against Freo but not this week
More confident against the cats than Freo. We cannot handle close checking teams such as Freo. We do better against free running teams that don't crowd us. That said, the cats have been in awesome form this year. Could be an upset though. Hope Chimp comes up!
Reckon this is winnable, only factor is maybe the return from Perth and recovery.
They have 2 pretty handy ins.
Would Foley be any show this week or still too early?
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GEELONG will welcome back forwards Paul Chapman and Tom Hawkins for its blockbuster clash against Richmond on Saturday night.
But the unbeaten Cats again look set to be without defender Jared Rivers for a few weeks, as another knee injury sidelines the former Demon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/paul-chapman-and-tom-hawkins-set-to-return-to-face-richmond/story-e6frf9lo-1226632218193
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Would Foley be any show this week or still too early?
Still too early. He'll play his first full game in the magoos this weekend (played 3 qtrs against Box Hill). Better to have him 100% right for the second half of the year rather than rush him back for round 6.
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Fair call :thumbsup
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GEELONG will welcome back forwards Paul Chapman and Tom Hawkins for its blockbuster clash against Richmond on Saturday night.
But the unbeaten Cats again look set to be without defender Jared Rivers for a few weeks, as another knee injury sidelines the former Demon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/paul-chapman-and-tom-hawkins-set-to-return-to-face-richmond/story-e6frf9lo-1226632218193
Why oh why must these 2 return against us
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rance is stuffed, hawkins will kill him
and how can anyone we confident
we have been geelongs bitch for decades
we r gawn
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rance is stuffed, hawkins will kill him
and how can anyone we confident
we have been geelongs bitch for decades
we r gawn
Hawkins hasn't trained yet this week so let's hope he is underdone!
If he plays, we need someone taller than Rance on him. Might have to bring Griff back (even if I think he is a natural forward).
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rance is stuffed, hawkins will kill him
and how can anyone we confident
we have been geelongs bitch for decades
we r gawn
Hawkins hasn't trained yet this week so let's hope he is underdone!
If he plays, we need someone taller than Rance on him. Might have to bring Griff back (even if I think he is a natural forward).
Think you wil find he did train as did Chappy.
They missed last week due to player management, nothing else.
We need griff or Chaplin down back on him. Rance will get destroyed, lets be honest
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Think you wil find he did train as did Chappy.
They missed last week due to player management, nothing else.
We need griff or Chaplin down back on him. Rance will get destroyed, lets be honest
Not so sure about that daniel, Scott did his presser today and they showed part of it on Ch 10 news and he said Hawkins he hasn't trained yet this week hope he'll be able to train later in the week but they still expect him to be right to play
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That's right, Hawkins hasn't trained this week yet.
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Think you wil find he did train as did Chappy.
They missed last week due to player management, nothing else.
We need griff or Chaplin down back on him. Rance will get destroyed, lets be honest
Not so sure about that daniel, Scott did his presser today and they showed part of it on Ch 10 news and he said Hawkins he hasn't trained yet this week hope he'll be able to train later in the week but they still expect him to be right to play
Really. Channel 9 news I think it was had them both training when Scott was talking about Rivers injury and footage was shown of them training.
Could've been old footage though.
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
If we are nothing, Username then maybe you should consider swapping teams .... :rollin :rollin
Although when you have nothing you actually have something so maybe it's not that bad after all ;D
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
If we are nothing, Username then maybe you should consider swapping teams .... :rollin :rollin
Although when you have nothing you actually have something so maybe it's not that bad after all ;D
We need an emoticon of someones brain exploding
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
If we are nothing, Username then maybe you should consider swapping teams .... :rollin :rollin
Although when you have nothing you actually have something so maybe it's not that bad after all ;D
We need an emoticon of someones brain exploding
Can we add this one (http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj489/dwwaino/baby.gif)
Sums up a few posters perfectly :shh
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
geez just give them the 4 points.
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To be honest im more confident abut this week than last, which doesn't mean much,
Not sure why but perhaps it has something to do with playing them at the G and not Docklands or kardinia.
if hawkins and chappy play and we beat them it will be our best win in the hardwick era
Im over the cats and their dominance.
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Richmond takes on Geelong at the MCG on Saturday night and will be looking to end an eight-game losing streak against the undefeated Cats.
Cotchin said the Tigers, who have suffered back-to-back defeats against Collingwood and Fremantle, were ready for the challenge against "the in-form team in the competition".
"They've brought some real speed into their midfield, which is probably a bit different to what they've had in the past," he said.
"We want to be the best midfield that we can be and Geelong are really setting the standard in that area at the moment. We need to take it up to them."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-05-01/we-love-jacks-passion-cotchin
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To be honest im more confident abut this week than last, which doesn't mean much,
Not sure why but perhaps it has something to do with playing them at the G and not pooihad or kardinia.
if hawkins and chappy play and we beat them it will be our best win in the hardwick era
Im over the cats and their dominance.
Ditto
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This game is a huge test.
Our history against the cats isn't good but this game will show us plenty about our team.
Are we ready to take the next step? We are finally home which is a huge plus and as disappointing as the loss was last week we did show a lot of fighting spirit and almost won the game.
I think this game could be our breakout game as the hawks game was last year.
Now that winter is here Tucky must play.
I'd like to see foley as a sub think his clearance ability and burst speed could be valuable late in the game.
I think it's there indigenous players we've goto watch as the 3 of them are having a great year thus far & we don't have a great track record in stopping any good indigenous players.
I'm not confident but the Roos nearly beat them and we are better than them aren't we?
If we keep up that pressure and intensity we showed last week if we're prepared to work hard for a full four quarters,... Well you never know.
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
If we are nothing, Username then maybe you should consider swapping teams .... :rollin :rollin
Although when you have nothing you actually have something so maybe it's not that bad after all ;D
We need an emoticon of someones brain exploding
Can we add this one (http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj489/dwwaino/baby.gif)
Sums up a few posters perfectly :shh
Metro 2033 ;)
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come on guys
do u really think they need to train to play well against us lol
they are premiership cats players
we r nothing
If we are nothing, Username then maybe you should consider swapping teams .... :rollin :rollin
Although when you have nothing you actually have something so maybe it's not that bad after all ;D
We need an emoticon of someones brain exploding
Can we add this one (http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj489/dwwaino/baby.gif)
Sums up a few posters perfectly :shh
Metro 2033 ;)
Mate, I'm halfway through it and reading the book too. ;D
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Geelong absolutely fear us lol
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who do you actually support?
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who do you actually support?
I support the Richmond Footy Club! Just like you Owl :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Our best footy can beat Geelong however we've only seen our best footy in small patches so far this year - 2nd qtr vs Carl, most of the Bulldogs game (who were non-competitive) and 1st qtr against Freo. On our current from, there'll be one or more quarters where our workrate and intensity on and off the ball will be virtually non-existent :help and that'll allow Geelong to cut us open with their new found leg speed and spread :-\. If there was ever a time we can and need to put together a full four-quarter effort to win and make a statement to our critics in the media, it is this Saturday night!
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This game is a huge test.
Our history against the cats isn't good but this game will show us plenty about our team.
Are we ready to take the next step? We are finally home which is a huge plus and as disappointing as the loss was last week we did show a lot of fighting spirit and almost won the game.
I think this game could be our breakout game as the hawks game was last year.
Now that winter is here Tucky must play.
I'd like to see foley as a sub think his clearance ability and burst speed could be valuable late in the game.
I think it's there indigenous players we've goto watch as the 3 of them are having a great year thus far & we don't have a great track record in stopping any good indigenous players.
I'm not confident but the Roos nearly beat them and we are better than them aren't we?
If we keep up that pressure and intensity we showed last week if we're prepared to work hard for a full four quarters,... Well you never know.
Geelong have hardly been impressive this year. In all games they have played this season they have at stages looked pedestrian but their professionalism experience and capabilities to win tight ball coupled with that winning mentality that has been nurtured and shown week after week year after year has come to the fore enough to get them over the line.
I personally think we are a real fighting chance this week if we can keep the intensity up for four quarters and match them man for man and scrap for every last morsel available.
For me the fear of Geelong and their aura is what has helped them at stages this year and if somehow we can overcome the fact that we may fear them and be starstruck by them they may be just have a dogfight against us.
They know how to play the G after all Flags are won there but I just feel Jack with the scrutiny may be itching to get out there and a few of our boys may just be ready to have big games full of the terms I used earlier and give us a real chance of toppling them. Have not beaten them at the G since 1999 so it has been a long time. Saturday may be our night.
I reckon Tuck and Foley as sub may just be what we need if we are prepared to risk it just to add some pace and get the pendulum swinging our way if Tucky or any other mid is starting to fatigue in the third term. :thumbsup
The onus is on us do we want an honourable 10 or 20 point loss where a loss of professionalism and lapse in concentration for 20 mins or so is where this game is won or lost or do we want to win this game albeit by any margin. I know what O want let's hope the 22 selected for us tonight think that way too. Much better feeling. :thumbsup
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Geelong have hardly been impressive this year.
You make some interesting points, and I agree that we are a chance to beat the cats if we play well. However, Geelong were very impressive, at least to me, in their wins over Hawthorn and away in Sydney. If Geelong have been unimpressive this year then we have been diabolical.
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Their wins were full of spirit. If only we had that spirit.
Falling behind by 30 points to Hawthorn and 40 to North is hardly impressive. Coming back and winning though is but it's not that well oiled Geelong we have come to respect.
If anything they were most impressive against Sydney.
As for us we have played in fits and starts as Geelong have but it's their professionalism will to win and leadership that has got them to 5-0 against a range of opponents lower middle and top 4. We have played teams from all 3 categories also and are sitting 3-2 due to where we are currently in our evolvement. We've sampled the highs with our big game win over Carlton and the lows in the last few weeks. It's up to the boys to which of the highs or lows will be sampled on Saturday night. :thumbsup
Just as note I feel that we can shock Geelong if not go on and win on Sat night. Both Nought and Carlton at times as middle range sides pushed Geelong all the way and I feel falling in that same middle category can do the same as mentally Geelong whilst having that mental strength in their premiership stars may not have it in their new players who may have not eerie need the ultimate success and despite how good these Smedts Christensens Taylor Hunts and co are they can be outplayed and made to look quiet. Geelong are not hunting like they used to. Maybe its our cue to go hunting them. Let's hope so. :thumbsup
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saw their ugly bits up close and personal against Sydney and they were dominant
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We will knock them off
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Just don't think we have the big guns to stop them, could be our biggest spanking for the year. I love Jack but gee he had better watch it or Enright will pull his pants down and Jack won't know what has hit him.
For us to win this game we must play 4 quarters of hard, disciplined, accountable and highly skilled football....as the Cats do!!!!
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Just don't think we have the big guns to stop them, could be our biggest spanking for the year. I love Jack but gee he had better watch it or Enright will pull his pants down and Jack won't know what has hit him.
For us to win this game we must play 4 quarters of hard, disciplined, accountable and highly skilled football....as the Cats do!!!!
Enright won't play on him, k
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Agree reckon Harry Taylor or Lonegan will get the gig on Jack
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Well whoever Enright plays on they had better be up to it or he will run off them all day and create play...
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Well whoever Enright plays on they had better be up to it or he will run off them all day and create play...
:bow
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Our best footy can beat Geelong however we've only seen our best footy in small patches so far this year - 2nd qtr vs Carl, most of the Bulldogs game (who were non-competitive) and 1st qtr against Freo. On our current from, there'll be one or more quarters where our workrate and intensity on and off the ball will be virtually non-existent :help and that'll allow Geelong to cut us open with their new found leg speed and spread :-\. If there was ever a time we can and need to put together a full four-quarter effort to win and make a statement to our critics in the media, it is this Saturday night!
Agree. A win would bring credibility and confidence to the team
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The cats are ready for neutering, we will be bringing the scalpel. So let it be written so let it be done!
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Hooter-man. :bow
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The cats are ready for neutering, we will be bringing the scalpel. So let it be written so let it be done!
Let's hope its our breakout game like last years hawks game.
Have u been watching the Ten Commandments recently?
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The cats are ready for neutering, we will be bringing the scalpel. So let it be written so let it be done!
Let's hope its our breakout game like last years hawks game.
Have u been watching the Ten Commandments recently?
Can't you really only have one breakout game?
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Beating Sydney in Sydney is pretty good form .
Will take our very best to get close to Geelong.
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The bookies are clearly reflecting Geelong being 5-0 and the fact we haven't beaten them for 7 years :P.
Richmond $3.05
Geelong $1.38
Source: TAB
Journos:
Herald-Sun: 7-23 ...... Crawford, Jon Ralph and KB have tipped us.
The Age: 3-21 ...... Emma Quayle has also tipped us to win.
http://resources.news.com.au/files/2013/05/02/1226634/252007-hs-footy-tips-rd6.pdf
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/expert-tipsters
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Definitely will have to be at best to beat them. Geelong seem to overuse in the ball in the middle and thus we need to apply enormous pressure to prevent them from running through the middle. Also need Jack to run Taylor ragged
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Really should have beaten them last year down the highway.
Still not confident
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my biggest concern is how we back up after a tough game on a the large sandy surface of subi, followed by a compromised recovery.
if this has any real influence there is the possibility to get ugly, resulting in the chicken littles screaming that nothing has changed and calling for hardwicks scalp.
It will also draw jackstar back like flies to a turd.
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Why has it been a compromised recovery?
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3 hours ( or whatever it is exactly) sitting on a plane rather than the ice baths massages exercises and/or whatever they would normally be doing
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Also need Jack to run Taylor ragged
That ain't gunna happen. Apart from any attitudinal aspect, Jack does not have the aerobic capacity of a Richo.
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3 hours ( or whatever it is exactly) sitting on a plane rather than the ice baths massages exercises and/or whatever they would normally be doing
8 days recovery should help overcome that Al.............................................I hope!
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The cats are ready for neutering, we will be bringing the scalpel. So let it be written so let it be done!
Let's hope its our breakout game like last years hawks game.
Have u been watching the Ten Commandments recently?
haha Yul Brynner man, he is a champ
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The cats are ready for neutering, we will be bringing the scalpel. So let it be written so let it be done!
Let's hope its our breakout game like last years hawks game.
Have u been watching the Ten Commandments recently?
haha Yul Brynner man, he is a champ
:thumbsup
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VIDEO: Spotlight on Round 6, Richo speaks to Danny Daly to preview the Cats:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-05-02/spotlight-on-round-6
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I'd hoped we wouldve beat the pies as they aren't playing that well and have some deficiencies in their game at the minute but we didn't take the opportunity when it was presented as so was the case last week. If there was ever a time to beat the filth it was early in the season with some major stars out or down on form. As of last week we had the win in our hands only to clumsily drop it in the last minute.
This game will answer many questions we all have about our group, the biggest and most important being have we matured? and are we resilient? or have we really improved? or learnt anything from last year?
This game is massive, if we win it puts us ahead of the ledger, it demands us respect, it makes a statement, it tells the footy world "We're made as hell & we're not going to take it anymore!"
I'm going to this game very nervous because, with our history in mind, there is the underlying fear of our pants getting pulled down again just when we thought the tide was turning.
There's been massive changes to our club, this time it's being done the right way. Gale and Hardwick have done an excellent job whilst in their respective positions but its time the player stood up and show all of us that things are very very different this year.
If we win this game I for one will know that we have really changed and we're ready to have a crack at finals footy.
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The most interesting change with this game compared to our recent unsuccessful encounters with them is the venue - the MCG should suit us :shh
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The most interesting change with this game compared to our recent unsuccessful encounters with them is the venue - the MCG should suit us :shh
Maybe but it certainly suits the Cats too, they've won the odd Grand Final, Prelmin Final etc there over the last 5 years
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We beat Carlton just and should have cleaned them up but we lost the plot and were unfit.
We beat the Dogs by the margin we should of and we played a full 4 qtr game.
We lost to the Pies, but again we went missing and lost the plot.
We should of beaten the Dockers but lost the plot throughout the game, poor skills, poor attitude and we did not play for each other.
We now play a side that plays completely the opposite of the way we play. We cannot commit to 4 qtrs of football consistently and come away with a win....the Cats have clawed their way back to wins through their level of experience and skill...We are not in the same league, the Pies showed us that.
Can we win..YEP, will we win??? Not unless 4 cat like qtrs of football is played by the entire team, for each other!!!!
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The most interesting change with this game compared to our recent unsuccessful encounters with them is the venue - the MCG should suit us :shh
Maybe but it certainly suits the Cats too, they've won the odd Grand Final, Prelmin Final etc there over the last 5 years
True but we plat there more often and use our kicking game to find players in space on the wings more often. I also believe we are faster than they. :)
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Chappy out of tomorrows game.
Murdoch in.
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Chappy out of tomorrows game.
Murdoch in.
Yep he's been "wiithdrawn" ;D
See: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-03/chapman-withdrawn-from-tigers-clash
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Right c'mon Tiges!!!
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Any updates would be appreciated the AFL sites are overloaded from PNG tonight.... :banghead
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Ok getting enough to see they are 13 zip..... :banghead
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Just for you big tone, nice work by ellis
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Has Cotch or Lids touched it???
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Er, on second thought - see ya
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19-6.......if we let them blow this open its going to e a bloody long night, 2 goals is nothing but gee watching the game field veiw worm on the net.....they are all over it.
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Ok, settle.....18 Tiges 20 Cats
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:gotigers...Tiges up
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Just seems that the Cats seem to have way too much space coming out of their defence. Zoning is one thing but free passage past the centre is is another, need to tighten up. Also when in doubt go 50m up the line not 10m chip kicks. Other than that it wasn't a bad quarter
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they chucked everything at us early and had to run hard to end up behind us in the end..
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lol they look stuffing stunned
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charity for geebung
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Just seems that the Cats seem to have way too much space coming out of their defence. Zoning is one thing but free passage past the centre is is another, need to tighten up. Also when in doubt go 50m up the line not 10m chip kicks. Other than that it wasn't a bad quarter
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Every single goal theyve scored so far has been cheap and from our errors. If we ever learnt to cut out that poo out wed monster sides. Frustrating...
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Case in point.... thats the 2nd stuffing goal from a chaplin turnover. That was pathetic!
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One thing we can count on, the Cats will never stop until the end!! Cotch must get involved.
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How is Grimes???
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should be nothing wrong with him why?
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nuther umpire goal for geebung
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Lol and another goal from an errant handball, I dont think ive ever seen a side kick their first 6 from unforced errors
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should be nothing wrong with him why?
Just read the text on the Hun net and they said he was struggling with a rolled ankle.
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they are holding onto our players after every tackle so they cant get up and play on
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Grimes is dine and out there as far as I can see
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Grimes is dine and out there as far as I can see
That's good then..
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Motlop has gone to the joel selwood school of ducking, twice hes dropped to get a too high.
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The last 10 minutes of that quarter was blatant cheating by the Cats again Cotch, cannot believe the lack of protection he gets from the umps. Should have had at least 4 free kicks which would have stopped the Cats momentum. A one handed handball from Taylor at the other end makes you wonder whether these umpires are looking at, no wonder they are sponsored by OPSM.
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we lead in all stats except free kicks and are down by 2 on hitouts we got stuffed by rubbish, I am angry we worked hard, earned all our goals, they have most of theirs from rubbish frees
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Bang bang bang bangajust like that the game goes from comfortably being in our control to eelong in front. We shkt ourselves in the foot, their 1st 7 goals were from dumb errors
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we should be 30 points up at least but we are behind, it's stuffing diabolical, we have a tough enough job playing a tough side without being stuffed over on top of it by morons
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Bang bang bang bangajust like that the game goes from comfortably being in our control to eelong in front. We shkt ourselves in the foot, their 1st 7 goals were from dumb errors
Sides know.Put pressure on and we fall like a deck of cards.
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game isn't over yet
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That's the cats, they never go away ask the hawks, ask the Roos. We need to get much more value from that centre clearance action we had for much of the 1st half. On a positive note - they are there for the taking tonight - belief and grit will get us over the line. Should be fun
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Do the Cats have a few more Selwoods playing for them? #27, #28 and #32 all have the Selwood duck down to a fine art.
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Ivan limping off. His one player we can't afford to go down.
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stuff!!!!!!!!!!
No respect for Selwood anymore cheating little idiot
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umpires just love us...
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Absolutely sick and tired of how often Cats forwards are on their own. Happens against all tip sides, simply lazy and not good enough. No more excuses, time at Coburg. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Some of our so called better players cannot get near the footy to give us a chance. We don't work hard enough.
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That was some of the most diabolical umpiring ive seen that qtr. This game is going down the gurglar
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We are dead set soft, and Houli missing fron 29m wtf are these guys doing! !!! This is so disappointing to watch, too many players getting tagged out, FIGHT FFS!!!!
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Our defenders have done okay, especially Rance and Chappy. Done their job. Our mids have gone missing and the double hit of Maric and Vickery was cruel
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Umpiring is pee weak. Doesn't matter if we're trying our guts out when it's Geelong appreciation round.
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I don't say much about umpiring normally but this crap is giving me the sh!ts
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Selwood went down a peg or two in my book after that incident with Newman. No idea about incorrect disposal or holding the ball anymore. Cotchin and Deledio need to stand up or we are sunk.
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Freo trip now playing its part, could get ugly from here.
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Had our chances early but continual unforced errors and then the umps have put paid to that, now its getting ugly
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Is Lids playing tonight?
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Told ya's the captaincy of the RFC is a poisoned chalice.
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We have to work so dam hard for a goal, up the other end its so open, I reckon I could take a mark sitting in a camp chair.
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Chris Scott can get stuffed, lands a dream job, tells the team to keep playing like they did under Thompson, and he thinks he's a stuffen legend.
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Look at the white germs evening up the free kick count now the stings out of the game
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Well, what a refreshing reminder of why I hate the fluorescent maggots. Appreciation? We were on the anus end of a right royal rogering with an oversized baseball bat. They could not have done more to bring the pampered princesses back into the game just before half time - 3 blatantly incorrect decisions cost us 3 goals and at that point you could see how it was going to play out. Nothing like crueling a fair contest with one-sided umpiring.
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yeah saw that, I told yas, it was the precious ones game from the outset, it looked like we were going to wreck their celebration milestone game early and so they had to cruel our flow. idiots
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Umpiring aside, the same hacks and stupid tactics beat us every week. The sooner Foley and the youngsters at Coburg come in the better.,
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i'm sick to death of watching teams give us a lesson in how to spread.
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-Petterd, did some ok things in the 2nd half, but overrall he is a liability, gives away dumb frees, cant kick, I counted 3 times him going up uncontested and choosing to fist instead of take the mark(ie no confidence!). Batch and Dea to be given a run at it, this guys not up to it.
-Knights, the weapon is hungry and a hog, ignored teammates all night going for the big goals, dissapointing, takes away from a potentially solid game
-Jackson, back to his hacking best, tonight was a rewind on the past several yrs, about 5 shockers.
-Cotch, dont know whats going on with Cotch but thats 6 weeks in a row his disposal is downright poor. Becoming a big concern.
-Grigg got plenty of it, but so did his opponent(s) who use it better.
-Chaplins unforced errors in the first half were just dumb and directly cost us 2 goals.
-Deledio quiet,
Our best player was kingy tonight,
Martin was very good and robbed of a goal,
Ellis solid good to see him back up last week,
Vlas looked like he belonged can hold his head up high.
McGuane was really good, once again did not get beaten in a contest and won plenty.
Edwards had a few clangers but overall was very good again.
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-Petterd, did some ok things in the 2nd half, but overrall he is a liability, gives away dumb frees, cant kick, I counted 3 times him going up uncontested and choosing to fist instead of take the mark(ie no confidence!). Batch and Dea to be given a run at it, this guys not up to it.
-Knights, the weapon is hungry and a hog, ignored teammates all night going for the big goals, dissapointing, takes away from a potentially solid game
-Jackson, back to his hacking best, tonight was a rewind on the past several yrs, about 5 shockers.
-Cotch, dont know whats going on with Cotch but thats 6 weeks in a row his disposal is downright poor. Becoming a big concern.
-Grigg got plenty of it, but so did his opponent(s) who use it better.
-Chaplins unforced errors in the first half were just dumb and directly cost us 2 goals.
-Deledio quiet,
Our best player was kingy tonight,
Martin was very good and robbed of a goal,
Ellis solid good to see him back up last week,
Vlas looked like he belonged can hold his head up high.
McGuane was really good, once again did not get beaten in a contest and won plenty.
Edwards had a few clangers but overall was very good again.
Good summary Tony.
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I'd hoped things would be different this year but they're not. Geelong was the biggest test, the barometer of things.
... We won't make finals this year unless their is a miracle.
Its a shame because I'd hoped we were getting somewhere but we are 2 years away from finals in my opinion.
Some teams seem to bounce straight back into success.
We seem to climb Mount Everest. It's a big expedition for us just to make finals when other teams seem to waltz right in.
The players must start to own responsibility. Take the onus upon themselves to be better.
Too much fanfare too much talk too much wanking.
The coach, the captain. Too much promises.
Players take too long to develop, too slow to take the next step.
Lets just start winning. Lets just bust the competition open. Suprise the others. Be the big riser.
It's not our lot in life. It's always a hard slog for us.
Too much rubbish and not enough results.
Not enough leadership. Too few stand up when it counts.
Too often teams can just flex a muscle and we seem to just wilt under pressure.
Can't win a milestone game. Can't beat a team with a player with a milestone game.
Same old same old.
It's not good enough. No excuses anymore.
We are a good age, have good experience.
We aren't that good and we proved it again tonight.
P. S...... thanks for beating the Cheating Scum.
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we were in control half way into the second
then the umps got geelong back into the game
and as stuffing USUAL THE RFC DROP THEIR HEADS AND SHOW HOW stuffing MENTALLY FRAGILE THEY ARE
GROW SOME stuffing BALLS RICHMOND
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Tonight was further proof we are just an average "middle of the road" team.
I can't understand how some teams can regenerate so quickly .....yet the RFC is perminately stuck in a state of mediocrity .
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Tonight was further proof we are just an average "middle of the road" team.
I can't understand how some teams can regenerate so quickly .....yet the RFC is perminately stuck in a state of mediocrity .
thats how it is unfortunately. the recruiting this last 12 months was only to try and finish 8th. I think we will struggle to make the eight now. We are a very average football side.
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Very disappointing this game but really shows that were are still a few KKP's and at least two more years off it. I really didn't think we were that far off but after the past few weeks we need to smell the roses. Buckle up for at least another two years of these results, maybe longer because......dare I say it......it looks like we have gone backwards compared to the competition this year to date. :-\
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Tonight was further proof we are just an average "middle of the road" team.
I can't understand how some teams can regenerate so quickly .....yet the RFC is perminately stuck in a state of mediocrity .
Who else has beaten geelong this season ::)
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Tonight was further proof we are just an average "middle of the road" team.
I can't understand how some teams can regenerate so quickly .....yet the RFC is perminately stuck in a state of mediocrity .
we are simply not good enough'
We cannot win enough of the ball when in dispute
And when we do win it, more oftem that not we dont pick the right option and turn the ball over
End of story
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We aren't good enough yet Port are
Give me a break
We lose because we continually reward mediocrity
How on earth is Newman, Grigg and Hackson still getting game time
Amazing really
Dimma better make finals this year or he might as well start looking for another job, as next year as seen in the past with the RFC, don't deal with pressure well and will fail again
Media will be all over us in a massive way next year given his last year of contract
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Any word on Marics ankle or Tybones head?
Ty was staggering around like his mentor Lionel Hutz last night
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Last night for me was a realisation of what a dumb football club we are..The poor decision, making endless turnovers just kept highlighting our dumbness.
Jackos butchering of the ball
griggs inability to run and work hard
Lidds inability to break a tag
pettards woefull kicking
jacks unwillingness to offer leads ,but rather trying to take pack marks.For crying out loud every full forward since moses was a child offers leads
bacha (although I think he has been playing well of late) he continues to go to ground way too easily and thus renders him out of the contest.
Last night geelong put on a clinic on how to pass a football.They outsmarted us in every facet of the game.We the supporters bemoan the fact that other football teams spend minimal time in the doldrums before re grouping and re structuring ,and coming back....We the supporters have every right to expect more from this team for we have dug deep for a long time now...COME ON RFC YOU OWE US
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Didnt want to post last night when I got home because I was so angry.
Not because we lost but how we lost
We showed nothing in the last qtr. absolutely nothing. Going got tough and we went back to being shell shocked school kids.
The moment Maric hobbled off we were goneskis IMHO (thought tap work wise it was his best game last night against good opposition) and then to be followed by Vickery so quickly ... :banghead
But after that point it was about character.
Only character we got shown in the last was mental fragility and in the case of some not giving a stuff because it had all got to hard!
Again we were failed by our leaders and senior players (hang your head Chris Newman). All of them bar Maric who showed incredible courage to keep playing when he clearly shouldn't of
Just so bitterly disappointing, after all the little steps forward we took a big one back last night!
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need more players with class and determination. Vlastuin can hold his head up coz hes a kid and he busted his guts yesterday for the cause. anyway things are not so rosy, the recruiting of the likes of Grigg and Houli is not the panacea that some supporters made out, even last year I tried to make this point but was howeled down. These players are average players, they are not taking us anywhere. The club needs to get some superstars otherwise we are going nowhere.
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last night I sat there absolutely stunned when Bacha ran into an open goal and sprayed it.....just very poor football
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Just on Vickery think he was to head off to hospital after the game for x-rays etc
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more than likely tucky and foley will come back in...And if big Ivan is stuffed big Oren might get a gig
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Was criminal that Tuck was playing for coburg. Shocking decision by the coaching staff that's bitten them on the arse the past 2 weeks
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Puzzles me why we didn't go after someone like Brent Maloney.Did we think our midfield was that good?
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-Petterd, did some ok things in the 2nd half, but overrall he is a liability, gives away dumb frees, cant kick, I counted 3 times him going up uncontested and choosing to fist instead of take the mark(ie no confidence!). Batch and Dea to be given a run at it, this guys not up to it.
Just on Petterd and his supposed poor disposal. He had 16 possessions up until 3qtr time at 100% effectiveness. He basically didnt play in the final qtr as he was injured
stats also say he had 4 clangers which is the same number of clangers as Cotchin, Edwards, Houli and one less than Deledio, Newman and McGuane
His first half was very good and he was one of our better defenders IMHO.
As for the punching instead of marking down back there was a few guilty of that and Grimes was the other way in the 3rd when he should have punched tried to mark and cost us a goal
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-Petterd, did some ok things in the 2nd half, but overrall he is a liability, gives away dumb frees, cant kick, I counted 3 times him going up uncontested and choosing to fist instead of take the mark(ie no confidence!). Batch and Dea to be given a run at it, this guys not up to it.
Just on Petterd and his supposed poor disposal. He had 16 possessions up until 3qtr time at 100% effectiveness. He basically didnt play in the final qtr as he was injured
stats also say he had 4 clangers which is the same number of clangers as Cotchin, Edwards, Houli and one less than Deledio, Newman and McGuane
His first half was very good and he was one of our better defenders IMHO.
As for the punching instead of marking down back there was a few guilty of that and Grimes was the other way in the 3rd when he should have punched tried to mark and cost us a goal
I don't care what the stats say will, the bloke can't kick. He had 2 goal assists and both were fricken helicopter mongrels that somehow someone got on the end of. But hey they're goal assists. He is a deer in headlights, bad decision maker and whilst Cotch lids etc had have bad nights they have credits in the bank and can be excused.
Added to that each match he's dropped a couple of sitters bc he's basically panicked. Grimes stuffed up by not punching in that instance but that was one bad decision, petterd did it 3 times and is basically par for the course in every game he's played. Not sure why the love, this guy is no good under pressure
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-Petterd, did some ok things in the 2nd half, but overrall he is a liability, gives away dumb frees, cant kick, I counted 3 times him going up uncontested and choosing to fist instead of take the mark(ie no confidence!). Batch and Dea to be given a run at it, this guys not up to it.
Just on Petterd and his supposed poor disposal. He had 16 possessions up until 3qtr time at 100% effectiveness. He basically didnt play in the final qtr as he was injured
stats also say he had 4 clangers which is the same number of clangers as Cotchin, Edwards, Houli and one less than Deledio, Newman and McGuane
His first half was very good and he was one of our better defenders IMHO.
As for the punching instead of marking down back there was a few guilty of that and Grimes was the other way in the 3rd when he should have punched tried to mark and cost us a goal
I don't care what the stats say will, the bloke can't kick. He had 2 goal assists and both were fricken helicopter mongrels that somehow someone got on the end of. But hey they're goal assists. He is a deer in headlights, bad decision maker and whilst Cotch lids etc had have bad nights they have credits in the bank and can be excused.
Added to that each match he's dropped a couple of sitters bc he's basically panicked. Grimes stuffed up by not punching in that instance but that was one bad decision, petterd did it 3 times and is basically par for the course in every game he's played. Not sure why the love, this guy is no good under pressure
Fair enough TM
I'd take him over Jackson anyway of the week to be honest with you ;D and I just don't think he's been that bad. Yep he has made mistakes but others have too
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We showed nothing in the last qtr. absolutely nothing. Going got tough and we went back to being shell shocked school kids.
The moment Maric hobbled off we were goneskis IMHO (thought tap work wise it was his best game last night against good opposition) and then to be followed by Vickery so quickly ... :banghead
But after that point it was about character.
Only character we got shown in the last was mental fragility and in the case of some not giving a stuff because it had all got to hard!
Again we were failed by our leaders and senior players (hang your head Chris Newman). All of them bar Maric who should incredible courage to keep playing when he clearly shouldn't of
Just so bitterly disappointing, after all the little steps forward we took a big one back last night!
100% correct WP. :thumbsup
Great post.
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Our "mental fragility" has always been part of our downfall, this is nothing new, it has never been rectified...that's the problem.
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Very disappointing this game but really shows that were are still a few KKP's and at least two more years off it. I really didn't think we were that far off but after the past few weeks we need to smell the roses. Buckle up for at least another two years of these results, maybe longer because......dare I say it......it looks like we have gone backwards compared to the competition this year to date. :-\
Correct WAT. Last night showed us exactly this.
We don't have great leadership either.
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Tonight was further proof we are just an average "middle of the road" team.
I can't understand how some teams can regenerate so quickly .....yet the RFC is perminately stuck in a state of mediocrity .
Correct Matty.
Just finals is our Mount Everest. Other teams seem to waltz right in but we just can't seem to get to the summit of finals footy. We are too soft. We don't have great leadership. We wilt under pressure.
We play dumb footy make stupid mistakes. Last week mistakes was a breakdowns of the basic fundamentals of defensive footy mindset. We a mentally fragile and weak.
We don't have the same excuses as before. We were too young. We had players that hadn't played enough games. These excuses aren't the case anymore.
Last year it was the freo loss at the G when I new we weren't going to make it and last night I could see it too.
It's going to take a miracle or a massive change in attitude to turn this around.
I can't see it happening this year.
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We were simply showed up by a better side. To be a good side you have to play one touch football. There were too many occasions last night where we fumbled when we should not have. We have alot to do to become a better side. Tick's game was outstanding. His handpassing in a pack to find a player was extremely good. Under Hardwick he has made considerable progress and good on him.
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not to make too much of a point about it but we are poo. we are a middle of the road side. I see us finishing about 12th. Havent recruited properly - just bandaid jobs IMHO. Starting with Houli and Grigg and finishing with Knights Edwards and Petterd. Chaplin makes too many mistakes and seems to panic as well under pressure. Its just band aid after band aid at Punt Road.
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Any word on Marics ankle or Tybones head?
Ty was staggering around like his mentor Lionel Hutz last night
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick is uncertain whether key talls Ivan Maric and Ty Vickery will be available for this week’s match against Port Adelaide, after both suffered injuries against Geelong on Saturday night.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-05-05/richmond-to-assess-fitness-of-tall-duo
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Best part of the game was Brian Taylor saying the crowd was poo cause Richmond fans are wog and at church.
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Best part of the game was Brian Taylor saying the crowd was poo cause Richmond fans are wog and at church.
Its been Orthodox Easter this weekend so the greeks and our other orthodox brethren probably go in large numbers to the game.
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not to make too much of a point about it but we are poo. we are a middle of the road side. I see us finishing about 12th. Havent recruited properly - just bandaid jobs IMHO. Starting with Houli and Grigg and finishing with Knights Edwards and Petterd. Chaplin makes too many mistakes and seems to panic as well under pressure. Its just band aid after band aid at Punt Road.
Blair Hartley would be on thin ice then.
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not to make too much of a point about it but we are poo. we are a middle of the road side. I see us finishing about 12th. Havent recruited properly - just bandaid jobs IMHO. Starting with Houli and Grigg and finishing with Knights Edwards and Petterd. Chaplin makes too many mistakes and seems to panic as well under pressure. Its just band aid after band aid at Punt Road.
Blair Hartley would be on thin ice then.
he did what he had to do to get players to get us out of the basement. We are now out of the basement but he needs to find us players to get us consistently in the 8. I disagree that we needed these players because I dont believe they can help us win a flag, I believe that we should have continued drafting lots of kids and trying to develop them. Thats all.
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not to make too much of a point about it but we are poo. we are a middle of the road side. I see us finishing about 12th. Havent recruited properly - just bandaid jobs IMHO. Starting with Houli and Grigg and finishing with Knights Edwards and Petterd. Chaplin makes too many mistakes and seems to panic as well under pressure. Its just band aid after band aid at Punt Road.
Blair Hartley would be on thin ice then.
he did what he had to do to get players to get us out of the basement. We are now out of the basement but he needs to find us players to get us consistently in the 8. I disagree that we needed these players because I dont believe they can help us win a flag, I believe that we should have continued drafting lots of kids and trying to develop them. Thats all.
It was a considered plan due to the compromised draft with these new clubs who
Have had the cherry pick of these young kids, so perhaps this plan after all is flawed.
Every club has foot soldiers that are just that foot soldiers, they were obtained to fill
Certain holes which most commentators have commended us for, where we fall down is the development of our young draftees, which as a organisation we are terrible at.
Every team has foot soldiers that have limitations, ours just stand out due to a lack of A graders in our team.
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not to make too much of a point about it but we are poo. we are a middle of the road side. I see us finishing about 12th. Havent recruited properly - just bandaid jobs IMHO. Starting with Houli and Grigg and finishing with Knights Edwards and Petterd. Chaplin makes too many mistakes and seems to panic as well under pressure. Its just band aid after band aid at Punt Road.
Blair Hartley would be on thin ice then.
he did what he had to do to get players to get us out of the basement. We are now out of the basement but he needs to find us players to get us consistently in the 8. I disagree that we needed these players because I dont believe they can help us win a flag, I believe that we should have continued drafting lots of kids and trying to develop them. Thats all.
It was a considered plan due to the compromised draft with these new clubs who
Have had the cherry pick of these young kids, so perhaps this plan after all is flawed.
Every club has foot soldiers that are just that foot soldiers, they were obtained to fill
Certain holes which most commentators have commended us for, where we fall down is the development of our young draftees, which as a organisation we are terrible at.
Every team has foot soldiers that have limitations, ours just stand out due to a lack of A graders in our team.
Well said Rogerd3, we were coming from that far back that these guys were upgrades on what we had so they have contributed significantly to us improving. We basically got these players for free so we could still keep drafting young guys with our ND picks. We will need to continue to upgrade these types to get better. We cant expect to go out and get stars each off season, need to develop our own imo
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We just go to water when the pressure is on that's all simple.Make basic mistakes ,turn the ball over,and poor decsions.For me one of our biggest concerns is that our leaders and senior players dont stand up and lift the team when it has to they just go missing..
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not to make too much of a point about it but we are poo. we are a middle of the road side. I see us finishing about 12th. Havent recruited properly - just bandaid jobs IMHO. Starting with Houli and Grigg and finishing with Knights Edwards and Petterd. Chaplin makes too many mistakes and seems to panic as well under pressure. Its just band aid after band aid at Punt Road.
Blair Hartley would be on thin ice then.
he did what he had to do to get players to get us out of the basement. We are now out of the basement but he needs to find us players to get us consistently in the 8. I disagree that we needed these players because I dont believe they can help us win a flag, I believe that we should have continued drafting lots of kids and trying to develop them. Thats all.
It was a considered plan due to the compromised draft with these new clubs who
Have had the cherry pick of these young kids, so perhaps this plan after all is flawed.
Every club has foot soldiers that are just that foot soldiers, they were obtained to fill
Certain holes which most commentators have commended us for, where we fall down is the development of our young draftees, which as a organisation we are terrible at.
Every team has foot soldiers that have limitations, ours just stand out due to a lack of A graders in our team.
Fair call
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they did drop their heads in the second half, was after our two rucks went down and that ridiculous free and 50 against Newman debacle. Kingy didn't stop giving it 100% though.
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they did drop their heads in the second half, was after our two rucks went down and that ridiculous free and 50 against Newman debacle. Kingy didn't stop giving it 100% though.
yep and that's the most disappointing past
It all got too hard again and ..... well we know the rest
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Mentally we are shot. Too hard and we buckle.
We need a bloke like Martin to just get in the face of the opposition, rile them, defile them, revile them and just be an enforcer like Selwood at Geelong, Vossy at Brissy once or Solomon at Essendon a bloke who would not take skata from no one and who would make blokes walk 3 foot taller. Or Jordan Lewis or Sam Mitchell. Blokes who have reps that are justified.
We are just to weak and prim and proper. Nasty sides win flags teams like us win nothing.
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Mentally we are shot. Too hard and we buckle.
We need a bloke like Martin to just get in the face of the opposition, rile them, defile them, revile them and just be an enforcer like Selwood at Geelong, Vossy at Brissy once or Solomon at Essendon a bloke who would not take skata from no one and who would make blokes walk 3 foot taller. Or Jordan Lewis or Sam Mitchell. Blokes who have reps that are justified.
We are just to weak and prim and proper. Nasty sides win flags teams like us win nothing.
in fairness that was our largest defeat in over a season of football. in that time we have constantly had patches where we have been hurt by the opposition but have regrouped and not capitulated completely.
i thought before the game that we were going to struggle to back up from last week. Physical and mental fatigue are not mutually exclusive by any stretch.
add to that, im sure that the players would find it as demoralising as the supporters to see Mcguane having to take the center bounces :P
Better sides than us have wilted before the cats and everyone should have seen just what we need to aspire to, and how far off it we actually are.
This weeks game against port will tell us a lot about the character of the team.
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You would hope Al that this weeks game against Port shows us that we still have character and spirit albeit obviously proving we are still way off the top sides but still able to hold our own and remain competitive and successful against the mid tier and lower ranked sides. Thus leaving us in a position of positivity for now with time to augur the right on field changes to get us to the top tier in subsequent seasons.
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick and Chris Scott):
Richmond vs Geelong
9 Johnson (Geel)
5 Christensen (Geel)
5 Kelly (Geel)
4 Enright (Geel)
3 Edwards (Rich)
2 King (Rich)
1 Bartel (Geel)
1 Lonergan (Geel)
http://aflca.com.au/index.php?id=14&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1125&tx_ttnews[backPid]=9&cHash=d92394785d
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Mentally we are shot. Too hard and we buckle.
We need a bloke like Martin to just get in the face of the opposition, rile them, defile them, revile them and just be an enforcer like Selwood at Geelong, Vossy at Brissy once or Solomon at Essendon a bloke who would not take skata from no one and who would make blokes walk 3 foot taller. Or Jordan Lewis or Sam Mitchell. Blokes who have reps that are justified.
We are just to weak and prim and proper. Nasty sides win flags teams like us win nothing.
in fairness that was our largest defeat in over a season of football. in that time we have constantly had patches where we have been hurt by the opposition but have regrouped and not capitulated completely.
i thought before the game that we were going to struggle to back up from last week. Physical and mental fatigue are not mutually exclusive by any stretch.
add to that, im sure that the players would find it as demoralising as the supporters to see Mcguane having to take the center bounces :P
Better sides than us have wilted before the cats and everyone should have seen just what we need to aspire to, and how far off it we actually are.
This weeks game against port will tell us a lot about the character of the team.
I've read the same thing for 3 weeks now. I read it after the loss to Collingwood and after the narrow loss to Freo and now again after this loss.
Maybe we might have to wait to see the character of the team when we play Gold Coast in Cairns.
How long must we wait to see something?
I reckon I've seen it already.
Mentality weak, soft and void of leaders who know how to lead.
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Lets hope in the future that we have wins for guys that have given great service as the cats did for Johnson and Enright, The coach was adamant that his players were going to honour those 2 on Saturday.
Don't underestimate this in a playing group, unless its us..lol
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I was surprised by reading the herald sun stats that Houli laid the most tackles and performed the most pressure acts. The second highest tackler was Vlas which is awesome for the kid. The last three weeks have given us a reality check. We are miles off being a top four side especially if we continue to turnover the ball at will. We have alot of areas we need to improve.
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Mentally we are shot. Too hard and we buckle.
We need a bloke like Martin to just get in the face of the opposition, rile them, defile them, revile them and just be an enforcer like Selwood at Geelong, Vossy at Brissy once or Solomon at Essendon a bloke who would not take skata from no one and who would make blokes walk 3 foot taller. Or Jordan Lewis or Sam Mitchell. Blokes who have reps that are justified.
We are just to weak and prim and proper. Nasty sides win flags teams like us win nothing.
in fairness that was our largest defeat in over a season of football. in that time we have constantly had patches where we have been hurt by the opposition but have regrouped and not capitulated completely.
i thought before the game that we were going to struggle to back up from last week. Physical and mental fatigue are not mutually exclusive by any stretch.
add to that, im sure that the players would find it as demoralising as the supporters to see Mcguane having to take the center bounces :P
Better sides than us have wilted before the cats and everyone should have seen just what we need to aspire to, and how far off it we actually are.
This weeks game against port will tell us a lot about the character of the team.
I've read the same thing for 3 weeks now. I read it after the loss to Collingwood and after the narrow loss to Freo and now again after this loss.
Maybe we might have to wait to see the character of the team when we play Gold Coast in Cairns.
How long must we wait to see something?
I reckon I've seen it already.
Mentality weak, soft and void of leaders who know how to lead.
you may have read it, but not from me.
the geelong game panned out pretty much as i expected, for reasons already stated. freo game, despite losing was hardly a capitulation or all round pee poor effort. in fact it was a pretty good effort to play soft and still narrowly lose to one of the tightest teams on their home ground.
didnt you spend a lot of effort a year or two back saying we had enough leadership?
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Mentally we are shot. Too hard and we buckle.
We need a bloke like Martin to just get in the face of the opposition, rile them, defile them, revile them and just be an enforcer like Selwood at Geelong, Vossy at Brissy once or Solomon at Essendon a bloke who would not take skata from no one and who would make blokes walk 3 foot taller. Or Jordan Lewis or Sam Mitchell. Blokes who have reps that are justified.
We are just to weak and prim and proper. Nasty sides win flags teams like us win nothing.
in fairness that was our largest defeat in over a season of football. in that time we have constantly had patches where we have been hurt by the opposition but have regrouped and not capitulated completely.
i thought before the game that we were going to struggle to back up from last week. Physical and mental fatigue are not mutually exclusive by any stretch.
add to that, im sure that the players would find it as demoralising as the supporters to see Mcguane having to take the center bounces :P
Better sides than us have wilted before the cats and everyone should have seen just what we need to aspire to, and how far off it we actually are.
This weeks game against port will tell us a lot about the character of the team.
I've read the same thing for 3 weeks now. I read it after the loss to Collingwood and after the narrow loss to Freo and now again after this loss.
Maybe we might have to wait to see the character of the team when we play Gold Coast in Cairns.
How long must we wait to see something?
I reckon I've seen it already.
Mentality weak, soft and void of leaders who know how to lead.
We saw it last night, now Mr Tigra will you let it go? ;D