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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 05, 2013, 04:24:08 PM
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Carey Not Sold On Richmond
MMM
Sunday, May 5, 2013
Wayne Carey believes the Tigers are still a few players away from being a finals contender.
After opening the season with three consecutive wins, Richmond have now lost three in a row after falling to the undefeated Geelong on Saturday night by 44 points.
Talking on Triple M's The Sunday Rub, Wayne Carey explained what he thinks the Tigers need and why he isn't going to guarantee that Richmond are a finals team.
AUDIO: http://soundcloud.com/triple-m-footy/wayne-carey-talks-richmond
http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/afl/news/carey-not-sold-on-richmond/
Carey, Mark Stevens (from the Herald-Sun) and one other guy on MMM:
* Improved probably 5-10% at best but still the same old problems - ball use, decision making, discipline and some players not working hard enough. Main crux is their inability to make smart decisions and maintain possession under real pressure.
* Long way away from the top 4 echelon. Will finish 8th at best. Carey said more likely 9-11th spot like North. Will rue losing to Freo last week. They have to win those close games.
* Carey said the Tigers are still 2-3 players away from being a finals contender. Still need support for Jack so another forward and a big key defender. Rance is terrific but he's punching above his weight; Chaplin is just a 2nd-3rd defender. The other guy said the Tiger tall defenders did a good job last night. If Hawkins and Pods had got control of the game the margin could've been 60 points plus.
* Richmond gave up 15 goals 5 behinds from turnovers last night.
* Big 3 weeks coming up for Richmond with games against Port, Melbourne and Essendon. Beat Port on Saturday arvo and they could be 6-3 as the Tiges usually play well in the Dreamtime game; but likewise lose to Port who'll be favourites and you could see Richmond being 3-6 (although they should be Melbourne).
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Yes Wayne agree, you also said way back in June 2012 that we were/are mentally weak...agreed then too!! :thumbsup
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Agreed. Not sold either.
Although I'd hoped we had turned a corner.
All hope that I'd had for finals is well and truly gone.
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You know what , im not sold on him :shh
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Carey was sold on the Tigers earlier in the week though.
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Agreed. Not sold either.
Although I'd hoped we had turned a corner.
All hope that I'd had for finals is well and truly gone.
Believe Dimma heard this and gathered the team after PSM to discuss the implications.
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Carey was sold on the Tigers earlier in the week though.
Carey doesn't know what's what when Tina is involved. :lol
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Media rating is a week by week proposition
big stuffing deal
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Cocaine's a hell of a drug
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Agreed. Not sold either.
Although I'd hoped we had turned a corner.
All hope that I'd had for finals is well and truly gone.
I still think that there is hope but hey hope springs eternal.
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Stop it. This is getting out of hand
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Cocaine's a hell of a drug
Now I remember reading this post months ago and was lmfao, nicely played kov. Stilly funny as hell :clapping
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mentally weak.No poo!
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Carey been foretelling doom for us for years. Heard him again on the Mannabrook (sp?) Footy Show spruik the same sentiments last week. Said we would lose the GC game too.
Some media personalities and opposition supporters have been so used to us being the competition whipping boy they resent this changing. No we are not a top 4 side but it is becoming increasingly clear that we are a top 8 side building every year. :thumbsup
Poor Carey is in mourning for his beloved Roos me thinks ;D
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Carey been foretelling doom for us for years. Heard him again on the Mannabrook (sp?) Footy Show spruik the same
It's the Marngrook Footy Show stripes :thumbsup
I actually find it amsuing when people say "Richmond haven't beaten any of the top sides". The draw is done at the completion of the previous season and is based on a whole range of factors, we don't control who we play and how many times we play them
So.....
1. It's not our fault we haven't played Hawthorn or Sydney yet - 2 of the top 4 sides. haven't got a chance of beating them if you haven't played them ::)
2. yep we lost badly against Geelong (did any of these so called experts actually expect us to win; me thinks not), stuffed up against the Pies by not sticking to the game plan. As for the Bombers - we were shocking
3. We lost to Freo by a point, a game that we should have won but threw away with 20 seconds of stupidity
4. Two of the games we have won are against 2 finals sides of 2012. Adelaide for memory finished 4th in 2012 and I would argue that most soo called "experts" had them again finishing top 4-6, so is that a scalp, again not our fault that the Crows have been disappointing.
5. Ditto the Eagels most so called experts had them pencilled in for top 4 so .... :whistle
6. Carlton - well I am pretty sure everyone was saying as soon as Mick was appointed coach they were going to be top 4 as well.... so .... not our fault they are an over rated rabble
7. N0rt - obviously the most pathetic effort of the year - enough said!
8. Finally the likes of Wayne Carey didn't have us finsihing in their collective top 8's this year so I really don't understand what the big deal is... all about finding a headline me thinks
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+1 on William Powell's sentiments. The 'we haven't beaten a side above us' chant to me is dumbfounding. Because the more games you win, the fewer number of teams above you and the pool of teams below you increases?
As mentioned, the better metric is beating a team which made finals last year. Which we did well with toppling the Eagles and Crows. Collingwood, Essendon (although they didn't make finals), and North Melbourne were horrible efforts I would concede, Geelong we only really started copping a belting when Vickery was involved with a head clash, and Freo well we all know how that ended.
Yes we aren't a top 4 but I think we have earned our spot in the bottom 4 of the top 8
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Hawthorn haven't beaten many teams above them either, the losers! :P
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Who's willing to torture themselves and watch the Essendon and North game back to back and tell me which one was worse?
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Carey been foretelling doom for us for years. Heard him again on the Mannabrook (sp?) Footy Show spruik the same
It's the Marngrook Footy Show stripes :thumbsup
I actually find it amsuing when people say "Richmond haven't beaten any of the top sides". The draw is done at the completion of the previous season and is based on a whole range of factors, we don't control who we play and how many times we play them
So.....
1. It's not our fault we haven't played Hawthorn or Sydney yet - 2 of the top 4 sides. haven't got a chance of beating them if you haven't played them ::) FAIR ENOUGH.
2. yep we lost badly against Geelong (did any of these so called experts actually expect us to win; me thinks not), stuffed up against the Pies by not sticking to the game plan. As for the Bombers - we were shocking. SO IN FACT WE HAVE LOST EASILY TO 3 OF THE BETTER CREDENTIALLED SIDES.
3. We lost to Freo by a point, a game that we should have won but threw away with 20 seconds of stupidity. YOU ARE KIDDING. IF WE WON THAT GAME IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHWAY ROBBERY.
4. Two of the games we have won are against 2 finals sides of 2012. Adelaide for memory finished 4th in 2012 and I would argue that most soo called "experts" had them again finishing top 4-6, so is that a scalp, again not our fault that the Crows have been disappointing. SIMPLE FACT IS THE CROWS ARE INJURY RIDDLED AND NOT A FINALS SIDE THIS YR.
5. Ditto the Eagels most so called experts had them pencilled in for top 4 so .... :whistle DITTO ADELAIDE IN FACT WE CAUGHT THE EAGLES AT THEIR LOWEST EBB OF THE YR.
6. Carlton - well I am pretty sure everyone was saying as soon as Mick was appointed coach they were going to be top 4 as well.... so .... not our fault they are an over rated rabble.
WERE THEY IT WAS PRETTY DIVIDED ABOUT WHERE THEY HAVE FINISHED AND THE FACT IS THEY ARE NOT A FINALS SIDE AGAIN THIS YR.
7. N0rt - obviously the most pathetic effort of the year - enough said! A SIDE AT A SIMILAR LEVEL JUST IN FRONT OF US IMO THRASHED US AND DIDNT ALLOW US TO PLAY.
8. Finally the likes of Wayne Carey didn't have us finsihing in their collective top 8's this year so I really don't understand what the big deal is... all about finding a headline me thinks. CAREY LIKE ALL OF US IS ENTITLED TO VOICE HIS OPINION. A LEVEL HEADED AND UNBIASED PERSON WOULD CONCEDE HE IS NOT FAR FROM THE MARK.
thats a great spin on things wp. for me ive seen nothing not a thing to suggest the general sentiments of carey are wrong. Oh and apologies for being lazy with the above.
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your succinct posts are the best clawsy