One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tiger101 on May 14, 2013, 12:53:21 AM
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Rohan Connolly at the Age has wrote a article debating Geelong's winning record out of their last 150 games. In the article he posted a ladder comparing to other team records. The Richmond team of 1927-35 came in at 6th
(http://images.smh.com.au/2013/05/13/4268302/table-150-years-620x349.jpg)
From its last 150 games, Geelong has won 125, for a staggering winning percentage of 83.3. For the next highest figure, you have to travel all the way back to the 1920s, and Collingwood's 79.7 per cent, the Magpies having won 119 and drawn one of 150 games between 1925 and 1932.
Then comes an earlier great outfit in Carlton, which between 1905-13 won 79 per cent of its games, and a latter-day champion team, the Hawthorn colossus of the 1980s, which also won 79 per cent of games from 1983-89.
Melbourne, meanwhile, won an amazing five flags in six seasons from 1955-60, and comes in at 78.7 per cent. Matthews' Brisbane Lions, meanwhile, ranks only ninth on the list with 71.7 per cent, below Richmond (1927-35), Essendon (1944-51) and Fitzroy (1898-1906).
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/one-team-rules-them-all-20130513-2jhbc.html
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Lol Failmantle' best period is less than 50% with a % less than 100. :lol
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The Richmond team of 1927-35 came in at 6th
That Richmond team won 2 flags plus were 5 times runners-up. Made the Grand Final every year bar one in 1930 (when it reached the semi-finals). If it wasn't for Collingwood (listed 2nd) and the old 'challenge' finals system which favoured the Pies, we would've won more flags during this period.
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what was the challenge system and how did it favour the pies?
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what was the challenge system and how did it favour the pies?
From Wiki:
Second amended Argus system (1907–1930)
The second version of the amended Argus system was used between 1907 and 1930, except 1924. This is the most widely known variation of the Argus system.
The structure of the finals was mostly the same as the first amended Argus system, except that the right to challenge was given to the Minor Premier, as defined by the team on top of the ladder at the end of the home-and-away season, and the two semi-finals were shifted onto separate weekends, extending the duration of the finals from two or three weeks to three or four weeks. The sectional rounds were abandoned in 1908 when the league expanded to ten teams.
Week One: the First Semi-Final was played between 2nd vs 4th.
Week Two: the Second Semi-Final was played between 1st vs 3rd.
Week Three: a final was played between Winner SF1 vs Winner SF2
If Minor Premier won the Week Three final, then that team was immediately awarded the Major Premiership. In these cases, the final in week three has retrospectively become known as the Grand Final.
If the winner of the Week Three final was not the Minor Premier, then the finals progress to Week Four. The final in week three became known as either the Final or the Preliminary Final.
Week Four: the Grand Final was played between Minor Premier vs Winner Final
The winner of this match became the Major Premier for the season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_VFL_finals_systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_VFL_finals_systems)
In 1919 we finished 4th, beat Sth Melb in our Semi Final and then beat Collingwood in the Minor Final but because Collingwood finished on top they had the right to challenge and beat us the following week.
In 1929 we finished 3rd, beat Collingwood in our Semi Final and then beat Carlton in the Minor Final but because Collingwood finished on top they had the right to challenge and beat us the following week.
Any wonder we hate them. :banghead
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:banghead they are arseholes arent they
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:banghead they are arseholes arent they
i look down and i see them so yes
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cheers smokey.
It seems that the system just gave the minor premiers an extra opportunity, as most finals systems since have.
Colonwoood still eat excrement willingly, though.
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Colonwoood still eat excrement willingly, though.
:lol :bow