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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: Damo on May 24, 2013, 10:42:42 PM
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If that collingwood thing racially abused Goodes she should get life
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Great parents who was sitting next to her allowing her to yell such abuse.
Pathetic. Should be ashamed of themselves.
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Great parents who was sitting next to her allowing her to yell such abuse.
Pathetic. Should be ashamed of themselves.
Disowned her at the end. They kept watching the game.
Seriously what a stuffing disgrace.
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If that collingwood thing racially abused Goodes she should get life
:clapping People are saying 12 months. But it should be life. Should be no second chances for things like this. >:(
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Depends how young Tigs. Old enough to know what she said yes, but public prosecution could do more damage to her and that's not good.
I'm more shocked at her mum, if that's who was sitting there and how as parents you do nothing.
Just a question how many times has this happened to the CFC or its supporter base??
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Depends how young Tigs. Old enough to know what she said yes, but public prosecution could do more damage to her and that's not good.
I'm more shocked at her mum, if that's who was sitting there and how as parents you do nothing.
Just a question how many times has this happened to the CFC or its supporter base??
They are saying round 15-16 daniel
She's with the cops
Not a fan of Eddie but his interview with Richo and the fact he went straight into the Swans rooms after the game to find out what happened was first class
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Depends how young Tigs. Old enough to know what she said yes, but public prosecution could do more damage to her and that's not good.
I'm more shocked at her mum, if that's who was sitting there and how as parents you do nothing.
Just a question how many times has this happened to the CFC or its supporter base??
She looked old enough to know that poo isn't on.
Agree with WP, Eddie was all class tonight.
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A 15-16 year old might be a 'minor' by law but they are old enough to know dishing out racist crap is a weak and spineless act and more a reflection on the insecurities of the perpetrator.
Btw our own Jack Riewoldt has copped pathetic abuse from another low-life Pies supporter on twitter tonight ::).
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I missed it. How do you know it was abuse? Not that I'm saying it wasn't. But was it audible, was there a reaction or something after the game?
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I missed it. How do you know it was abuse? Not that I'm saying it wasn't. But was it audible, was there a reaction or something after the game?
Goodes reaction was the giveaway. Left the field and went straight to the rooms and didn't celebrate on the field. As they were singing the song he looked as though he had been crying. Eddie went in to apologise to him after the game and in an interview with Richo confirmed it was racist comment.
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I missed it. How do you know it was abuse? Not that I'm saying it wasn't. But was it audible, was there a reaction or something after the game?
Goodes reaction was the giveaway. Left the field and went straight to the rooms and didn't celebrate on the field. As they were singing the song he looked as though he had been crying. Eddie went in to apologise to him after the game and in an interview with Richo confirmed it was racist comment.
Cheers. You'd think footballers would develop a thicker skin so it must of been something pretty terrible. Feel for the guy
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VIDEO: http://video.news.com.au/2387345856/Adam-Goodes-racially-abused-by-young-Pies-fan-at-MCG
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A RACIAL slur directed at Brownlow medallist Adam Goodes by a Collingwood supporter soured Sydney's 47-point win at the MCG.
Goodes pointed out the fan - allegedly a teenage girl - to security staff in the dying minutes of the game. The fan was escorted from the ground by police.
Goodes left the field immediately after the siren and was in the rooms for several minutes while teammates celebrated on the field.
Channel Seven commentator Matthew Richardson said Goodes seemed close to tears. McGuire said he was disgusted by the incident.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/eddie-mcguire-apologises-to-adam-goodes-after-a-magpie-fan-racially-vilified-the-sydney-champion/story-fndv8ujy-1226650256245
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Can someone answer how many times this has happened to the CFC
Winmar
Goodes
Monkey
Anymore?
A sad reflection of some in society and a few red neck supporters out there
In saying that she is 15 and her face will be all over the news and ban her they should, but be mindful of her mental state. It may have long lasting effects.
I'd ban her mum for sitting there looking like a twit. If that was my daughter I would've given her an almighty wack like my father used to give me.
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It's disgusting that this crap still goes on. Bag someone on their religion or something they have a choice in. Absolutely no sympathy for these sorts of people and I don't care how like they are.
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Can someone answer how many times this has happened to the CFC
Winmar
Goodes
Monkey
Anymore?
A sad reflection of some in society and a few red neck supporters out there
In saying that she is 15 and her face will be all over the news and ban her they should, but be mindful of her mental state. It may have long lasting effects.
I'd ban her mum for sitting there looking like a twit. If that was my daughter I would've given her an almighty wack like my father used to give me.
There was another young kid that was abused by a pies fan.
Daisy Thomas pointed out who did it if I remember correctly
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Can someone answer how many times this has happened to the CFC
Winmar
Goodes
Monkey
Anymore?
A sad reflection of some in society and a few red neck supporters out there
In saying that she is 15 and her face will be all over the news and ban her they should, but be mindful of her mental state. It may have long lasting effects.
I'd ban her mum for sitting there looking like a twit. If that was my daughter I would've given her an almighty wack like my father used to give me.
There was another young kid that was abused by a pies fan.
Daisy Thomas pointed out who did it if I remember correctly
Joel Wilkinson from GC.
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She's 13. How was she allowed to be escorted out without an adult is mind boggling to me as a father of daughters.
It doesn't excuse what she said but I wouldn't want any blue coat walking my daughter anywhere by herself no matter what she's done.
Says a lot more about her parents as far as I can tell they're pathetic.
Not only that but the way social media is today she may as well cancel all her accounts today for her own good.
Last thing, if the media want to create a circus of this incident I suggest they target her parents for "bad parenting" and make them squirm for either not educating her properly in the first place or for being just plain poo parents in general.
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Was told she called him an ape
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Goodes wants the 13-year-old girl to call him and apologise rather than publicly hang her out to dry.
"I'm pretty gutted to be honest. The win, the first in 13 years, to be up 47 points against Collingwood, to play such a pivotal role just sort of means nothing," Goodes said.
"To come to the boundary line and hear a 13 year old girl call me an 'ape', and it's not the first time on a footy field that I've been referred to as a 'monkey' or an 'ape', it was shattering."
"It's not her fault. She's 13, she's still so innocent. I don't put any blame on her. Unfortunately it's what she hears, in the environment she's grown up in that has made her think that it's ok to call people names."
"It cut me deep, and it affected me so much that I couldn't even be on the ground last night to celebrate a victory, to celebrate indigenous round. I'm still shattered, personally, it's tough."
"I'm loving the support of my friends and family, and people in the social media, it's fantastic, but I think the person who needs the most support right now is the little girl. People need to get around her. She's 13. She's uneducated. If she wants to pick up the phone and call me and apologise I'll take that phone call, and I'll have a conversation with that girl about, 'you know what, you called me a name, and this is how it made me feel'. And it's school stuff."
"I don't know if it's the lowest point in my career, but personally, I don't think I've been more hurt by someone calling me a name than I was last night. Not because of what was said, but because where it came from: a 13-year-old girl. It just hit me that it's not a Collingwood issue, it's not an AFL issue, it's a society issue. It's an issue of what are our parents teaching our kids?"
"I just hope that people give the 13 year old girl the same sort of support because she needs it, her family needs it, and the people around them need it. It's not a witch-hunt, I don't want people to go after this young girl. We've just got to help educate society better so it doesn't happen again."
Full article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-by-incident
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"To come to the boundary line and hear a 13 year old girl call me an 'ape', and it's not the first time on a footy field that I've been referred to as a 'monkey' or an 'ape', it was shattering."
Now it looks like I don't have inside info :banghead :banghead
Good on Goodes though, absolute champ
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Well done Adam Goodes. Could not have responded better - he nailed the problem and the solution. :clapping
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Some people should harden up. Everyones out to hang this young girl. What a joke, sure what she said was inappropriate but the reaction has been over the top and weak IMHO. The socialists and the do gooders have completely lost the plot IMHO.
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Was told she called him an ape
lol ... is all this nonsense today about a 14yo girl calling an AFL player an Ape. I remember the days of the primary schoolyard and that has to be the lamest sledge Ive ever heard. As I said in the other thread some people should harden up.
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Some people should harden up. Everyones out to hang this young girl. What a joke, sure what she said was inappropriate but the reaction has been over the top and weak IMHO. The socialists and the do gooders have completely lost the plot IMHO.
Just heard on SEN, that the girl has contacted Adam Goodes to apologise.
Just received a phone call from a young girl apologizing for her actions. Lets support her please#racismitstopswithme #IndigenousRound
— Adam Goodes (@adamroy37) May 25, 2013
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-but-places-no-blame/4712772?section=sport
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That's great.
All we need now is the parents to apologize for being bad parents.
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Some people should harden up. Everyones out to hang this young girl. What a joke, sure what she said was inappropriate but the reaction has been over the top and weak IMHO. The socialists and the do gooders have completely lost the plot IMHO.
Just heard on SEN, that the girl has contacted Adam Goodes to apologise.
Just received a phone call from a young girl apologizing for her actions. Lets support her please#racismitstopswithme #IndigenousRound
— Adam Goodes (@adamroy37) May 25, 2013
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-but-places-no-blame/4712772?section=sport
Thanks for adding the date
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Some people should harden up. Everyones out to hang this young girl. What a joke, sure what she said was inappropriate but the reaction has been over the top and weak IMHO. The socialists and the do gooders have completely lost the plot IMHO.
You can see how lynch mobs were easily stirred up in days gone by cant you?
Given the age of the girl involved, Goodes himself should have initiated the contact to explain to her why he found the comment inappropriate and how it made him feel.
As it is his sooky lagging has hung her out to dry publicaly . Without knowing the girl no one really knows if this is something she deserved or not. ( if a child that age commits a crime they are given anonymity by law)
I challenge anyone here to honestly say they have never made a comment that could be construed as racist or bigoted.
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ha, just read this after making a comment in another thread,
agree with what he said, but really he should have contacted her himself and left this out of the public domain.
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She's 13. How was she allowed to be escorted out without an adult is mind boggling to me as a father of daughters.
It doesn't excuse what she said but I wouldn't want any blue coat walking my daughter anywhere by herself no matter what she's done.
Says a lot more about her parents as far as I can tell they're pathetic.
Not only that but the way social media is today she may as well cancel all her accounts today for her own good.
Last thing, if the media want to create a circus of this incident I suggest they target her parents for "bad parenting" and make them squirm for either not educating her properly in the first place or for being just plain poo parents in general.
:clapping
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She's 13. How was she allowed to be escorted out without an adult is mind boggling to me as a father of daughters.
It doesn't excuse what she said but I wouldn't want any blue coat walking my daughter anywhere by herself no matter what she's done.
Says a lot more about her parents as far as I can tell they're pathetic.
Not only that but the way social media is today she may as well cancel all her accounts today for her own good.
Last thing, if the media want to create a circus of this incident I suggest they target her parents for "bad parenting" and make them squirm for either not educating her properly in the first place or for being just plain poo parents in general.
Mr T, probably the same bad parenting and education that allowed her to balloon to about 20+kgs overweight at age 13.
What a healthy start to life they have provided her, all round.
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Given the age of the girl involved, Goodes himself should have initiated the contact to explain to her why he found the comment inappropriate and how it made him feel.
Spot on Al.
Goodes should have noticed that the girl was very young and maybe said 'i'm not sure if you realise, but I find ape to be an offensive comment'.
This could have easily been an innocent comment, he is a tall, solid man with a beard.
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Well he has got his apology that he was kind enough to solicit so I hope he can now get over this
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Australian History X
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ANOTHER Collingwood fan has been captured on video yelling racist comments during Friday night's match against the Sydney Swans at the MCG.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-26/racist-footage-emerges
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ha, just read this after making a comment in another thread,
agree with what he said, but really he should have contacted her himself and left this out of the public domain.
Was he supposed to go up to her during the game and jot down a phone number?
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Do they still take all your details when you are ejected from the ground?
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I got in trouble for yelling d-head.
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;D
might as well have saturday
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Would have been bloody hard pinpointing who he was directing that at though.
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I got in trouble for yelling d-head.
You fair dinkum?
A mate of mine at cats game got yelled out for calling selwood a cheat and umpire a maggot
"Your scaring my son can you keep your voice down"
People have taking this correctness to a new level
This was from a tigers fan too
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I got in trouble for yelling d-head.
You fair dinkum?
A mate of mine at cats game got yelled out :fencing for calling selwood a cheat and umpire a maggot
"Your scaring my son can you keep your voice down"
People have taking this correctness to a new level
This was from a tigers fan too
Reality is the son was probably fine and this yoghurt munching politically correct a hole was packing fudge in his briefs. What's the world coming to these days ffs
:facepalm
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I got in trouble for yelling d-head.
You fair dinkum?
A mate of mine at cats game got yelled out for calling selwood a cheat and umpire a maggot
"Your scaring my son can you keep your voice down"
People have taking this correctness to a new level
This was from a tigers fan too
I got told off by security. It took two of them and at least 2 mins after I yelled it to come over and tell me not to swear. I was about to call him a d-head to make a point but figured they'd kick me out or something.
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McGuire apologises for gaffe linking Goodes and King Kong ...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-29/mcguires-king-kong-gaffe
:doh
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Defensive Eddie - he faking loves himself
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https://twitter.com/SportalAU/status/339562203244003331/photo/1
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SEN to drop the 'thats rubbish' segment due to wog racism ;D
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EDDIE McGuire will consider standing down as Collingwood president while the AFL goes through its racial vilification process.
The League announced on Wednesday afternoon McGuire would be required to meet the AFL to discuss his comments referencing Sydney Swans champion Adam Goodes and King Kong.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-29/eddie-may-step-down
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The above article contains a quote from Eddie McGuire which he said on AFL 360 tonight;
"And I'd have no problem if Triple M said 'Have a spell' [and] if Fox Footy said 'We don't want you to be the face of footy this weekend, maybe have a spell', then I would happily do that and cop that blemish on my impeccable record in that regard to make the point."
Really Ed. What if the AFL suspended you from games, would you take that blemish on your record?
And only Eddie could self nominate his punishment of one week.
Is he serious?
Justin Sherman got 4 weeks for racially vilifying an opponent, Spider Everitt the same, the AFL went batpoo over Sherman yet his Toorak buddy Andy D says it's OK coz Eddie didn't get enough sleep.
It's not OK- Eddie should get 4 like everyone else and probably more because he is an authority figure in the game.
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Matty Rendell got the ass for not even making a racist statement, in a private conversation ::)
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Matty Rendell got the ass for not even making a racist statement, in a private conversation ::)
You are surely not suggesting there are double standards in the AFL Mr Gerkin?
;)
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if it had been any other AFL president, Eddie would be leading the lynch mob
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if it had been any other AFL president, Eddie would be leading the lynch mob
:yep
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Most on here know of my opinion on Adam Goodes - that he is a racist and the most divisive person we have ever had as Australian Of The Year - and I just came across this blog written by a blogger who calls himself "The Black Steam Train". He's indigenous and I couldn't agree with his blog more:
Adam Goodes - ensuring racism as a sport
We can all learn a lesson or two from Adam Goodes.
What began as an insult thrown by a child during a football match has turned into an epic saga, drawing in and devouring plenty in its wake. It didn’t need to be like this, but apparently over-reacting has spread like the common cold.
Goodes was the first to fall ill. During a football match, he heard insults directed at him, one of which was ‘ape’. Able to identify the culprit, he pointed her out and security removed the girl from her seat and gave her a lecture for a few hours. The media seized, the family were shamed, branded and humiliated, and ignorant people everywhere patted themselves on the back that their vitriolic revenge was justified in the name of stamping out racism in this country.
When it turned out that the young girl was a Collingwood supporter, Eddie was next to fall ill. He was immediately outraged and disgusted, telling all who would listen that he and his club would not tolerate racism. Sadly for Eddie, his ability to moderate a situation that was not yet at ‘code red’ down to a mere ‘whoops’ was either ravaged by the virus or unable to operate in tandem with any mention of race, and he was jumping on the bandwagon in full. The girl was made a pariah, and Eddie was hailed a friend to black guys everywhere…until of course, he made the same fundamental human error that the 13 year old girl had made herself. Suddenly, he was the pariah, and after coming out against ‘racism’ so strongly, he was left with nowhere to go and worse, he couldn’t claim to be underage OR unaware as an excuse for his ‘crime’.
And just what was the crime? To suggest that Adam Goodes might do well to get on board and promote a musical called ‘King Kong’. In typical Eddie fashion, he saw a way to make a buck out of a drama. Who else has done more to make apes famous than Adam Goodes in this country I ask you? It’s what I would have suggested if Adam Goodes had asked me how to climb out of the hole he was fast digging for himself at that point. Find the humour in the situation and show people that despite the controversy, you are not so invested in yourself that you can’t play any other role than the victim. Save your outrage and hurt feelings for the times when you’ve really, truly been vilified, rather than when you’re called a name by a kid as a grown man.
Who knows, if you show other people you are capable of finding the humour in things, you might not end up feeling so hurt and victimised yourself. That is a lonely life that only isolates you from others as your constant inability to forgive minor social transgressions will slowly but surely turn all but the most loyal from wanting to be a part of your life. They’ll all screw up at some point, everyone does, and the ones you haven’t driven away by a one-man jury verdict of ‘racist’ will eventually flee when they tire of your constant need to pick apart their comments like a paranoid crack addict through garbage.
Was all the hysteria worth it?
It was a 13 year old girl. A child. Someone who is entitled to privacy, and to the childhood right of making mistakes and behaving poorly at times without the entire country knowing their name, transgression, and labelling them as anything based on a few moments of their behaviour. No name she called anybody justifies the treatment she received. Those involved in the public shaming of this girl did not take a stand against racism, they frightened a child repeatedly, and made judgements about her family in public.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been called an ape, a monkey (as well as the more outdoorsy themed ‘porch monkey’) and plenty of other insults that I could easily say were used as a ‘racial slur’ against me. That does not stop me, however, from referring to myself these days - as I go through the aging process and attract more grey hairs - as ‘Silverback’. I like monkeys, I’m a hairy bloke, and I should be free to use whatever nicknames I like for myself. I tell my friends to do the same. It doesn’t mean I’m ignorant of the ‘historical context’ of hurt feelings of Aboriginal people over the years (the typical argument brought forth when you suggest ‘ape’ should not be a censored word), but that I’d rather use logic and reason instead of emotion when it comes to stuff like this. Logic tells me that when I’ve been called a name, it’s almost always because someone wanted to take a cheap shot and was angry or frustrated or wanting to appear superior, or some other powerful emotion that tends to blur our logical thought processes. Being that I’m easily identifiable as Aboriginal, the cheap shot will usually take the form of a racial slur. For others, it might be based on their weight, hair colour, appearance, religion, skin colour – it seems as humans we find a million ways to see differences in one another and separate ourselves according to those, and it would seem there is nobody who is immune from this.
As for Adam, well, in the end, I think he got what he really wanted. Before the game, he spoke of Nicky Winmar and his now historic stand against racism. As a man whose days are numbered at the top of his game, he really wants to be remembered like Nicky was. He wants a legacy. And as he inches closer to retirement from football, a job afterwards would be nice – perhaps the victim theatrics were just his way of auditioning for a job in the Industry. Viewing his performance from that angle, I give him an A++. They’re gonna love him. As for me, I can’t look up to you Adam. I’m ashamed of the way a child was used as a pawn to achieve your goal, and you should be too.
Posted by Black Steam Train at 08:02
http://theblacksteamtrain.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/adam-goodes-ensuring-racism-as-sport.html (http://theblacksteamtrain.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/adam-goodes-ensuring-racism-as-sport.html)
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well said
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Excellent blog :clapping
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Good read. The more these sorts of things are singled out and highlighted the further away equality gets. Equality is when we don't need a special round of footy to commemorate those of a different race or nationality, or when we need to bend over backwards and give handouts to descendants of some people who were wronged by some of our ancestors (not mine, mind you). Like the part where the author says he refers to himself as 'silverback.' A big part of being Australian is the ability to take the mickey out of yourself.
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Aye flog of the year
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Couldn't agree more Dwaino.
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He's certainly not my Australian of The Year.
Great blog.
Lost respect for him after that last year.
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Good read. The more these sorts of things are singled out and highlighted the further away equality gets. Equality is when we don't need a special round of footy to commemorate those of a different race or nationality, or when we need to bend over backwards and give handouts to descendants of some people who were wronged by some of our ancestors (not mine, mind you). Like the part where the author says he refers to himself as 'silverback.' A big part of being Australian is the ability to take the mickey out of yourself.
Or have an AFL round for us White Aussie bogans ;)
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Good read. The more these sorts of things are singled out and highlighted the further away equality gets. Equality is when we don't need a special round of footy to commemorate those of a different race or nationality, or when we need to bend over backwards and give handouts to descendants of some people who were wronged by some of our ancestors (not mine, mind you). Like the part where the author says he refers to himself as 'silverback.' A big part of being Australian is the ability to take the mickey out of yourself.
Or have an AFL round for us White Aussie bogans ;)
That would be racist >:(
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I respect the view of the blogger but I'd also respect the views of others who may feel differently.
In the heat of the moment, Adam Goodes had every right to be offended that night - who the stuff has the right to tell him how to feel?
Certainly not the blogger or any of you.
I reckon he could've handle the aftermath better - when the heat of situation had settled and he was aware of the way that girl was treated.
Because Goodes should've realised that all people have rights - in the end, that little girl ended up being treated far worse than anything she dished out to him.
At that point, in my view the agenda should've changed from the comment to the way that girl was treated - ironically being taken away from her grandmother by security guards and then the wonderful world of on line lynching - media and social media afterwards.
That is where he lost me.
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Another thing. This idea of "I'm offended". Well I've got news for you. I'm offended by a lot of things too. Where do I send my list? Life is offensive. You know what I mean? Just get in touch with your outer adult. And grow up. And move on. Reasonable people don't write letters because... A: They have lives and B, they understand it's just TV. C: If they see something they don't like, something they do like might be on later. I've seen many comics I've hated. I've seen many shows that have offended me. I've never written a letter. I just go about my life.