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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WA Tiger on June 03, 2013, 07:55:52 PM
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Was going to raise this after the Dees played the Hawks.
We must make a big ploy for this bloke!
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Frawley and Garlett,!
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HAHA what sort of ploy?
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HAHA what sort of ploy?
:lol, don't know yet....
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HAHA what sort of ploy?
:lol, don't know yet....
preferably one where we dont have to give them anything ;D
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We can give them Jayden Posts details. He'll fit in beautifully there.
Straight swap for James Frawley if you ask me. :thumbsup
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As much as I like Rance and Grimes...... :o Dare I say it.....Trade?????
Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
Just think we really need to have a crack at this kid!!! Reiwoldt would agree...
He toweled up Buddy!
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As much as I like Rance and Grimes...... :o Dare I say it.....Trade?????
Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
Just think we really need to have a crack at this kid!!! Reiwoldt would agree...
He toweled up Buddy!
So did Rance just quietly.
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
What would it cost us for Frawley, isn't he a restricted free agent?
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
What would it cost us for Frawley, isn't he a restricted free agent?
He has a year left on his contract. He's a restricted free agent at the end of next year. He's very unhappy at Melbourne, though, so Melbourne might want to trade him now, while they still have "leverage"
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
What would it cost us for Frawley, isn't he a restricted free agent?
He has a year left on his contract. He's a restricted free agent at the end of next year. He's very unhappy at Melbourne, though, so Melbourne might want to trade him now, while they still have "leverage"
Oh ok, cheers, gee who could we offer up with a late pick??
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
What would it cost us for Frawley, isn't he a restricted free agent?
Well seeing Neeld will not be there next year, less chance of them handing him over for "nothing"
He'd be considered in their top 5-7 players, so I reckon they'd want a first round draft pick or one of our top 10 players. Players like you suggested a Rance, Grimes or even a S Edwards
Wouldn't give any of those for Frawley at this stage
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would love him at tigerland.have also heard the blues might be going shopping this end of season.they always have a deep wallet don't they?
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As much as I like Rance and Grimes...... :o Dare I say it.....Trade?????
Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
Just think we really need to have a crack at this kid!!! Reiwoldt would agree...
He toweled up Buddy!
Wouldn't give up our two best defenders for one defender. We're only just now getting 3 tall backs that look like they can play albeit one spending more time in the rehab group than on the pitch. Would try package Grimes in with say a Nahas but whether demons fall for it... They are the demons :whistle
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
Its the demons, McGaune and Nahas is worth two 1st rounders to them!
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Maybe McGuanne, Nahas......
You are not going to get James Frawley for those 2
Nahas may get you a GWS or Demons 3rd round pick if you are lucky
Its the demons, McGaune and Nahas is worth two 1st rounders to them!
:lol
I'd agree with you if Neeld and the dysfunctional footy dept remain but they won't be so they will be harder to deal with. And they're not giving up a contracted player for nothing
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Well, lets hope if he wants to be traded he picks the Tiges, I know it won't be a done deal as the Dees will play hard ball but if he picks us it would be great. Just have to get around that little thing called a contract... ;D
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given that the dees no longer have the threat of losing their draft picks hanging over their head, i expect they will be looking to offload players for as good a draft pick as they can.
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Would think that St. Kilda wouold be all over Frawley as the Key Defensive Back the desperately need.
Only problem is that St. Kilda are lining up for a rebuild, so Frawley may want a club playing finals.
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This isn't AFL dream team. We would need to part with a good player and a first rounder, not McGawn and pick 127
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Would people be willing to give up our 1st rounder which will be about pick 15 + a player to get him?
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Would people be willing to give up our 1st rounder which will be about pick 15 + a player to get him?
Wouldn't be giving up our first round pick. Would give up our 2nd rounder and a player
But not 1st round pick, we've been getting them right the last few years, wouldn't want to lose another Vlaustin for Frawley
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Would people be willing to give up our 1st rounder which will be about pick 15 + a player to get him?
Wouldn't be giving up our first round pick. Would give up our 2nd rounder and a player
But not 1st round pick, we've been getting them right the last few years, wouldn't want to lose another Vlaustin for Frawley
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Barrett tonight saying the Saints are after Frawley.
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Pity we didn't take Tom McDonald as our pick 51 in 2010 draft rather than Dean MacDonald.
Tom McDonald - 20yo, 194 cm, 94 kg CHB, played 27 games
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Pity we didn't take Tom McDonald as our pick 51 in 2010 draft rather than Dean MacDonald.
Tom McDonald - 20yo, 194 cm, 94 kg CHB, played 27 games
Kicks like a complete and utter poo truck. Wouldn't get a game.
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Pity we didn't take Tom McDonald as our pick 51 in 2010 draft rather than Dean MacDonald.
Tom McDonald - 20yo, 194 cm, 94 kg CHB, played 27 games
McDonald
2012: 20g 332d 94m 39cl
2013: 5g 80d 21m 7cl
Frawley
2011: 21g 392d 109m 41cl
2012: 19g 295d 96m 53cl
2013: 10g 149d 59m 25cl
Rance
2011; 19g 345d 113m 51cl
2012: 22g 395d 136m 65cl3
2013: 10g 148d 70m 27cl
Can't see much difference between any of the three.
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let the spud go to the saints
no flags for you buddy
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let the spud go to the saints
no flags for you buddy
:clapping best off developing our own blokes for the role. Will cost a 1st rounder and a player.
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GET FRAWLEY!!!!!
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-saints-and-magpies-preparing-war-chests-for-2014-free-agent-period/story-e6frg1xu-1226770765122
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Surely we will land a 'big fish' next season.
Whoever it may be
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Why doesn't it mention us? We're just gonna sit quiet aren't we ?
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Surely we will land a 'big fish' next season.
Whoever it may be
Yes, must be very aggressive. Will need another backman, at 25 Frawley fits the bill, we have a plethora of mids and forwards now. Must get a big backman in like Frawley, at 25..perfect.
The RFC should be talking to him now!!!
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here we go again..................
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here we go again..................
Yeah agree...stuff having a forum eh... :wallywink
What is the thoughts of the mighty one oh al of all?? :whistle
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I didn't realise Mundy was that old.
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Sorry Wayne, back off mate, wait until the might one :angel: has spoken.
al......
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my thoughts are you will bore everyone senseless with your constant
"get frawley" posts.
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my thoughts are you will bore everyone senseless with your constant
"get frawley" posts.
Ahhhhhhhhh, the messiah has spoken.....please close the thread.. :bow :bow :bow
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Aww shucks.
I can't take too much credit for it, as it really wasn't that hard to work out though.
Previous form was a pretty good indicator
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albert providing nothing of substance yet again. Nothing new
WAT i agree would be a good FA addition.
get rid of spuds like edwards and free up more cash for our assault in 2014
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Word is that we are going VERY aggressively next year at FA's. That's one of the reasons we have been a bit quiet this season.
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
Not sure they do, we said that years ago when we didn't recruit anyone and ended up taking Chaplin later on. I really think forward with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Hampson(will play there resting) , Vickery, Ivan, Lloyd and all the wingmen and midfielders we have kicking goals we are more than covered.
Down back, Newman will play his last year, Chaplin will be around 29, I am still not sold on Grimes holding up though he is very good, Rance will be there but honestly who else, with size and height.. :-\
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
Darrou as vfl full back
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
Not sure they do, we said that years ago when we didn't recruit anyone and ended up taking Chaplin later on. I really think forward with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Hampson(will play there resting) , Vickery, Ivan, Lloyd and all the wingmen and midfielders we have kicking goals we are more than covered.
Down back, Newman will play his last year, Chaplin will be around 29, I am still not sold on Grimes holding up though he is very good, Rance will be there but honestly who else, with size and height.. :-\
Astbury, darrou, McIntosh
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
Not sure they do, we said that years ago when we didn't recruit anyone and ended up taking Chaplin later on. I really think forward with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Hampson(will play there resting) , Vickery, Ivan, Lloyd and all the wingmen and midfielders we have kicking goals we are more than covered.
Down back, Newman will play his last year, Chaplin will be around 29, I am still not sold on Grimes holding up though he is very good, Rance will be there but honestly who else, with size and height.. :-\
Astbury, darrou, McIntosh
Astbury has still not proven himself and may nor, Darrou-you cant even count him, McIntosh-see Darrou. Frawley is proven.
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now apply the same thought process to the forward line.
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
:clapping..spot on the money.
Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
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WAT's not even angry. Just disappointed....
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WAT's not even angry. Just disappointed....
Please enlighten me William.
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WAT's not even angry. Just disappointed....
Please enlighten me William.
Just sounded disappointed in Al in your last post.
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WAT's not even angry. Just disappointed....
Please enlighten me William.
Just sounded disappointed in Al in your last post.
Ah yes I was mate, the messiah let me down.. ;D
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
Not sure they do, we said that years ago when we didn't recruit anyone and ended up taking Chaplin later on. I really think forward with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Hampson(will play there resting) , Vickery, Ivan, Lloyd and all the wingmen and midfielders we have kicking goals we are more than covered.
Down back, Newman will play his last year, Chaplin will be around 29, I am still not sold on Grimes holding up though he is very good, Rance will be there but honestly who else, with size and height.. :-\
When you put it like that, the forward line makes me more nervous than the back line. If Jack has a big injury, we might struggle. Beyond Jack we need mids to kick goals unless Vickers can finally arrive as a key forward - a big if.
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
:clapping..spot on the money.
Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
Quality > quantity, and boy is that lacking some quality if you remove the players that would have to be playing in the midfield
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Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.
As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.
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Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.
As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.
Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.
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WAT, our key defensive stocks look pretty good when compared with Key Forwards?
Whose spot does Frawley take?
Not sure they do, we said that years ago when we didn't recruit anyone and ended up taking Chaplin later on. I really think forward with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Hampson(will play there resting) , Vickery, Ivan, Lloyd and all the wingmen and midfielders we have kicking goals we are more than covered.
Down back, Newman will play his last year, Chaplin will be around 29, I am still not sold on Grimes holding up though he is very good, Rance will be there but honestly who else, with size and height.. :-\
When you put it like that, the forward line makes me more nervous than the back line. If Jack has a big injury, we might struggle. Beyond Jack we need mids to kick goals unless Vickers can finally arrive as a key forward - a big if.
See your point but we would have to have Riewoldt, A.Edwards, Vickery, a ruckman and a couple of mids go down at the same time for any concern as far as I can see.
Now if we have Rance and Chaplin go down or one of those two and Grimes we are in it deep, we just don't have the backups. Next year will be worse with Newman leaving.
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
:clapping..spot on the money.
Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
all rubbish aside WAT, if you apply the same rational reasoning to the forwards you mentioned, as you did with the backs Bents listed, you will see that our forward line is not that strong - at this point in time.
Bents was right when he said that our forward line needs more attention ATM, but perhaps that will change by the end of next season
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
:clapping..spot on the money.
Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
all rubbish aside WAT, if you apply the same rational reasoning to the forwards you mentioned, as you did with the backs Bents listed, you will see that our forward line is not that strong - at this point in time.
Bents was right when he said that our forward line needs more attention ATM, but perhaps that will change by the end of next season
Fair enough. Honestly though I just really think we have more players in the team that can play forward and not back making the forward depth more robust. Maybe I am looking at it to wrong way, I don't know, I just still see the backline as our weakness should multiple injuries occur.
If this is the case it will be interesting to see where Hardwick plays the players we have drafted as most of them including Lennon are forwards (albeit Lennon is a midfielder/forward).
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No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year :shh
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No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year :shh
I hope so BJ but that has been said for a few years now, will he be as good/valuable to us next year as Frawley would be??
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
:clapping..spot on the money.
Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
Quality > quantity, and boy is that lacking some quality if you remove the players that would have to be playing in the midfield
If the like of Conca, Foley, Vlastuin can lift and become full time, good mids.
I dont see any reason why we cannot play our best players forward of half way. We have not had that luxury in the past but hopefully we now have the depth of midfield to play the like of Cotch, Lids, Martin forward full time if not at least part time.
Deledio, Martin, Cotchin, McBean, Riewoldt, Lennon + another tall
would do damage - if the 2nd teir could get the ball down there
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No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year :shh
I hope so BJ but that has been said for a few years now, will he be as good/valuable to us next year as Frawley would be??
rookie listed for 2 seasons now, he hasn't been playing football for that long and has come along in leaps and bounds in that time, looking at him in pre season he has the body now to match it :shh
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Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.
As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.
Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.
Not forever they don't (unless the AFL move the goalposts yet again -which is always on the cards) Nearly every club in Victoria -and probably both in SA seeing as he's from the border- will be after him and will be positioning themselves to get him. We'd be derelict in our duty not to be among them. May not become the next Carey, but he'll come as close to it as anyone will.
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No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year :shh
I hope so BJ but that has been said for a few years now, will he be as good/valuable to us next year as Frawley would be??
rookie listed for 2 seasons now, he hasn't been playing football for that long and has come along in leaps and bounds in that time, looking at him in pre season he has the body now to match it :shh
2 seasons eh, thought it was longer than that. I know he has the physique to match it but there is a whole lot more thank that. Frawley has it now, compare Darrou to Frawley at the end of the season. I think we should get a better perspective then.
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Last season and this, we have been topping up with the acquisitions of mature players. No doubt the theme of the club is to try get success in the not too distant future. Regardless of the debate on correct list management - if this is going to be the stratagem (win the flag before we lose Deledio, Foley etc.) then we should be going hell for leather to get a 'star', in the class of Franklin, Mummy etc. I dont care who it is as long as its quality - NicNat, Frawley, Cameron etc. More so now in the era of free agency.
Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.
As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.
Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.
Not forever they don't (unless the AFL move the goalposts yet again -which is always on the cards) Nearly every club in Victoria -and probably both in SA seeing as he's from the border- will be after him and will be positioning themselves to get him. We'd be derelict in our duty not to be among them. May not become the next Carey, but he'll come as close to it as anyone will.
For the next 45 years expansions clubs will have rubber salary caps for the good of the expansion of the sport.
If Judd gets his extra 600k outside of the salary cap the northern clubs will be allowed to continue extracting the urine without anyone battering an eyelid.
The integrity of the sport at elite level will always be allowed to be bollocks. unfortunately.
Acuse me of wearing my tin hat if you so wish buts fairly obvious.
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is that a tin foil hat or an old kebab wrapper? can't tell
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Last season and this, we have been topping up with the acquisitions of mature players. No doubt the theme of the club is to try get success in the not too distant future. Regardless of the debate on correct list management - if this is going to be the stratagem (win the flag before we lose Deledio, Foley etc.) then we should be going hell for leather to get a 'star', in the class of Franklin, Mummy etc. I dont care who it is as long as its quality - NicNat, Frawley, Cameron etc. More so now in the era of free agency.
Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.
As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.
Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.
Not forever they don't (unless the AFL move the goalposts yet again -which is always on the cards) Nearly every club in Victoria -and probably both in SA seeing as he's from the border- will be after him and will be positioning themselves to get him. We'd be derelict in our duty not to be among them. May not become the next Carey, but he'll come as close to it as anyone will.
For the next 45 years expansions clubs will have rubber salary caps for the good of the expansion of the sport.
If Judd gets his extra 600k outside of the salary cap the northern clubs will be allowed to continue extracting the urine without anyone battering an eyelid.
The integrity of the sport at elite level will always be allowed to be bollocks. unfortunately.
Acuse me of wearing my tin hat if you so wish buts fairly obvious.
Yes I'm aware of all that, hence the disclaimer in parentheses.
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Frawley has been ass for two years
just thought i'd throw that out there
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Frawley has been ass for two years
just thought i'd throw that out there
Coinciding with Melbourne being a donkey.
I can't see another Frawley coming to Richmond anyway. Better off looking for a younger stuff.
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maybe he is a one season wonder
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Maybe we can land Jake Carlisle for 800k a year too. Frawley at FB & Carlisle CHB. They'd only get a combined total of 14 kicked on them each week.
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Frawley has been ass for two years
just thought i'd throw that out there
yep we should target a star midfielder
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Forward line macking
HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards
+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...
Loaded plus Locked
:clapping..spot on the money.
Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
Quality > quantity, and boy is that lacking some quality if you remove the players that would have to be playing in the midfield
If the like of Conca, Foley, Vlastuin can lift and become full time, good mids.
I dont see any reason why we cannot play our best players forward of half way. We have not had that luxury in the past but hopefully we now have the depth of midfield to play the like of Cotch, Lids, Martin forward full time if not at least part time.
Deledio, Martin, Cotchin, McBean, Riewoldt, Lennon + another tall
would do damage - if the 2nd teir could get the ball down there
That makes perfect sense Judge, and I mean perfect sense! :thumbsup Did you ditch the Samsung or has Mavis Beacon got your fingers dancing to a different groove?
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Frawley is quality and would be massive for our backline. Hope we have a serious crack
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Frawley is quality and would be massive for our backline. Hope we have a serious crack
fantastic player imo. pace power strength and just hates being beaten. if he had played in a good side to date we would all be lauding him as among the best kpds in the comp.
you know the best oif the best kpd stoppers first and foremost 95% of the time win one on ones all things being equal. this guy will do this all thinghs being equal. we cant say this about eithe chaplin or rance.
id swap rance for him tommorrow but melb arent that stupid i think. good structure good coach and this bloke is going to be jumping out of his skin reckom its too late.
is there any one here want to wager within affordability small bets please and im prepared to bet that melb finish higher than richmond next yr. imo there is not a big degree of difference between them and a lot of sides.
if they can win enough ball in the midfield they are structurally better than a lot of sides.
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Usually does a good job on Jack does Frawley. So does McPharlin...
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is there any one here want to wager within affordability small bets please and im prepared to bet that melb finish higher than richmond next yr. imo there is not a big degree of difference between them and a lot of sides.
if they can win enough ball in the midfield they are structurally better than a lot of sides.
:lol
Honestly, do you even go for Richmond? All you do is find fault with our defenders who were collectively ranked third in the league last year, yet you praise a bloke who has sooked it up and played like ass for two years after 1 good season.
Melbourne got Bernie Spud Vince on a 4 year deal at the age of 28 and gave up pick 2 for Dom Tyson who has shown nothing.
Seriously why don't you just toddle off and support West Coast so that you can at least get to a game once in a while and get some stuffing fresh air.
Misguided, egotistical fools like yourself dragged this club to the pits over the last three decades. Thank stuff your likes have been weeded out.
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Wilbur :bow :clapping
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LMAO, I bet that post mysteriously disappears two rounds into the new season
Spray of the day goes hands down to Big Willy :clapping
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is there any one here want to wager within affordability small bets please and im prepared to bet that melb finish higher than richmond next yr. imo there is not a big degree of difference between them and a lot of sides.
if they can win enough ball in the midfield they are structurally better than a lot of sides.
:lol
Honestly, do you even go for Richmond? All you do is find fault with our defenders who were collectively ranked third in the league last year, yet you praise a bloke who has sooked it up and played like ass for two years after 1 good season.
Melbourne got Bernie Spud Vince on a 4 year deal at the age of 28 and gave up pick 2 for Dom Tyson who has shown nothing.
Seriously why don't you just toddle off and support West Coast so that you can at least get to a game once in a while and get some stuffing fresh air.
Misguided, egotistical fools like yourself dragged this club to the pits over the last three decades. Thank stuff your likes have been weeded out.
Beautiful work
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Melbourne got Bernie Spud Vince on a 4 year deal at the age of 28 and gave up pick 2 for Dom Tyson who has shown nothing.
Misguided, egotistical fools like yourself dragged this club to the pits over the last three decades. Thank stuff your likes have been weeded out.
Bernie Vince at least played 21 games last season for Adelaide.
A Edwards played 9 for North before we traded for him at age 28.
Knights played 5 for Adelaide before we Free Agented him.
Petterd played 4 for Melbourne before delisting.
Stephenson played 8 for Geelong before delisting at age 30.
Gordon, Banfield and Thomas all played no AFL and were all delisted.
When you look at our recruiting over the last couple of years it's a bit much to criticise other clubs for older players like Vince.
The Tyson pick will only be judged by comparison with Josh Kelly in a few years time.
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Frawley is quality and would be massive for our backline. Hope we have a serious crack
fantastic player imo. pace power strength and just hates being beaten. if he had played in a good side to date we would all be lauding him as among the best kpds in the comp.
you know the best oif the best kpd stoppers first and foremost 95% of the time win one on ones all things being equal. this guy will do this all thinghs being equal. we cant say this about eithe chaplin or rance.
id swap rance for him tommorrow but melb arent that stupid i think. good structure good coach and this bloke is going to be jumping out of his skin reckom its too late.
is there any one here want to wager within affordability small bets please and im prepared to bet that melb finish higher than richmond next yr. imo there is not a big degree of difference between them and a lot of sides.
if they can win enough ball in the midfield they are structurally better than a lot of sides.
$100 Richmond finish higher than Melbourne in 2014. Deal ?
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Old Bernard cost em a second rounder.
Those players cost us stuff all.
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Claw we agree spud would be a great pickup - ill take you on the wager, no way in hell dees will finish higher than us
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crickets..... chirp chirp
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Old Bernard cost em a second rounder.
Those players cost us stuff all.
Shaun Hampson, 6 games last year, second round.
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Vince was start of second round, compo.
Hampson end of second round.
Vince also got four years at 28, but I take your point.
I will defend our recruiting vs. Melbs quite happily though.
My main gripe was with Claw heaping poo on his own players but lauding the rabble that is MFC.
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Frawley is quality and would be massive for our backline. Hope we have a serious crack
fantastic player imo. pace power strength and just hates being beaten. if he had played in a good side to date we would all be lauding him as among the best kpds in the comp.
you know the best oif the best kpd stoppers first and foremost 95% of the time win one on ones all things being equal. this guy will do this all thinghs being equal. we cant say this about eithe chaplin or rance.
id swap rance for him tommorrow but melb arent that stupid i think. good structure good coach and this bloke is going to be jumping out of his skin reckom its too late.
is there any one here want to wager within affordability small bets please and im prepared to bet that melb finish higher than richmond next yr. imo there is not a big degree of difference between them and a lot of sides.
if they can win enough ball in the midfield they are structurally better than a lot of sides.
$500. Put up or shut up.
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Vince was start of second round, compo.
Hampson end of second round.
Vince also got four years at 28, but I take your point.
I will defend our recruiting vs. Melbs quite happily though.
My main gripe was with Claw heaping poo on his own players but lauding the rabble that is MFC.
I understand that Claw can be infuriating at times and outlandish with some of his statements, however I feel it's unfair to blame him for our failures over 30 years or even to claim his type of attitude is at fault. To the contrary IMO what has caused more pain and failure than anything has been an uncritical acceptance by the members of decisions made at Richmond.
Simply think of the messiah complex and the effect of people like Bond, Casey, Schwab, Sheedy, Miller, Wallace.
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
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Patrick Bowden
Kent Kingsley
Pettard
McMahon
Banfield
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Poor old claw cops it from the feral brightsiders everywhere he posts. I think he makes salient points more often than not, though his cause isn't helped by his pee poor punctuation skills and run on sentences that give his comments the appearance of breathless rants - which I can only assume is how many read them in their heads - as much as his reluctance to give any credit to anything whatsoever. No need for everybody to dogpile on him though. Use the ignore function if you find his views that hard to deal with.
As for his Melbourne comments....who knows what will happen next year? How many of you predicted Port would finish ahead of us at the start of last year - which the effectively did by going deeper into the finals than us -? They were arguably just as big a rabble at the end of 2012 as Melbourne were.
Vince was start of second round, compo.
Hampson end of second round.
Vince also got four years at 28, but I take your point.
I will defend our recruiting vs. Melbs quite happily though.
My main gripe was with Claw heaping poo on his own players but lauding the rabble that is MFC.
I understand that Claw can be infuriating at times and outlandish with some of his statements, however I feel it's unfair to blame him for our failures over 30 years or even to claim his type of attitude is at fault. To the contrary IMO what has caused more pain and failure than anything has been an uncritical acceptance by the members of decisions made at Richmond.
Simply think of the messiah complex and the effect of people like Bond, Casey, Schwab, Sheedy, Miller, Wallace.
Hear, hear. Gotta love the way some constantly excuse failure and applaud mediocrity and carry on like defending premiers when we still haven't achieved anything beyond what any Richmond side has since 1982. There are many things the current regime deserve credit for but people need to step back and realise the job is long way from done and it hasn't been all been flawless. I believe we can make finals nearly every year and always have - even before the 2010 season - nearly any team can finish at least 8th in any given year, it's not really the sporting Everest that it's seemingly become for us over the decades. Should merely be the minimum standard for a great club like ours.
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*Sir Clawski
Locked&Loaded 2015.marketing slogan
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
:lol
:clapping
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
this is beautiful work again from Tiga :clapping
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MFC seriously WTF, just to mention Mrs Morton, Trengrove and Scully without even looking at their later first round picks or the second rounders.
Fair dinkum you would be excused for necking your self if you are a Dees supporter.
Nice troll work from the Big Clawski
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Rd 19 last year...GWS beat Melbourne by around 40 pts
Three weeks later Richmond beat GWS by 20 goals ( not 20 pts ) at the same venue.
Claw must be a very rich man .
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There's a lot of rubbish in this thread.
Someone tell me- why is Frawleys name mentioned?
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Rd 19 last year...GWS beat Melbourne by around 40 pts
Three weeks later Richmond beat GWS by 20 goals ( not 20 pts ) at the same venue.
Claw must be a very rich man .
That's incredibly simplistic. The way I used to think about football 30-odd years ago - when I was 10. Has about as much revelence to next year as the fact we barely beat Melbourne by 6 goals in the middle of a period where they were losing to everyone else by 15 goals + .....i.e. none.
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There's a lot of rubbish in this thread.
Someone tell me- why is Frawleys name mentioned?
free agent next year oxx, just discussing the merits of having a crack at him
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
love your work tiga :clapping :clapping :clapping
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Yesss Tiga!! Listen to craw
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id vote claw for bennys gales right hand man
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
:lol
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
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Ps. Magnificent work again Tiga.
:lol
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Brilliant tiga. I would have changed bankrupt to st.failda personally. ;D
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Theres an old saying
"I might disagree with what you say but i'll fight for your right to say it"..or something like that
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Thanks to Wayne's mate I've forgotten what Adelaide's petrenkos first name is? >:(
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Melbourne got Bernie Spud Vince on a 4 year deal at the age of 28 and gave up pick 2 for Dom Tyson who has shown nothing.
Misguided, egotistical fools like yourself dragged this club to the pits over the last three decades. Thank stuff your likes have been weeded out.
Bernie Vince at least played 21 games last season for Adelaide.
A Edwards played 9 for North before we traded for him at age 28.
Knights played 5 for Adelaide before we Free Agented him.
Petterd played 4 for Melbourne before delisting.
Stephenson played 8 for Geelong before delisting at age 30.
Gordon, Banfield and Thomas all played no AFL and were all delisted.
When you look at our recruiting over the last couple of years it's a bit much to criticise other clubs for older players like Vince.
The Tyson pick will only be judged by comparison with Josh Kelly in a few years time.
shhesh and here i was thinking melborne did fantastic in the tyson trade.
lets see with all the emotion aside what was that deal
i believe melbopurne recieved dom tyson. a prodigious talent. geez a talent we really wanted maybe we were idiots as well. a bloke who was a number 3 pick who has not struggled with afl footy, no lets be perfectly clear here hes been great when hes been up and going. no hes had some injury issues. so in some deluded minds this means he cant play.
they also recieved pick 9 and used it on who, please enlighten me was it christian salem??? geez a bloke we were all over. but wait hes at melbourne hes now a freaken hack as well. so instead of getting say kelly they get tyson and salem yet somehow this is translated to melbourne traded for hacks.
thats bloody rich when you consider we traded for hampson with what pick was it again.
yeah im happy to have some fun and put my gut feel on the line and suggest melbourne could possibl;y finish above us. they will certainly finish with in a few games .
just to finish ive said all yr and last yr there are a lot of sides within a realistic bulls roar of each other. ive never ever really felt melbourne were as bad talent wise as people were painting them up.
me i dont flow with crowds i have my own views and i raise em.
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According to Claw this is the scientifically proven method the club uses for draft selection. ;D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vczajn.jpg)
take it from one who knows son. if they had taken the listen to claw option the last 10 or 12 yrs would have landed at least one premiership.
humerous by the way. i even cracked a smile.
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
now i take issue with this. i dont deride the club. all ive ever done is speak the truth if you dont like it tough. know it all where. on almost ever occasion i criticise i bakck it up with why i think whaty i think.
you know what i can come across all smug and high and mighty for one simple reason.
over the yrs most things ive said have time and time again been correct. the truth just hurts sometimes.
ive gotta ask where else does an average supporter voice his concerns and air his grievances about his footy side but on a footy forum about said side.
you know what when and only when we actually win something anything, when we manage to perform in big games when it actually counts. when we regularly manage to beat good sides maybe then you can come on here and say claw you were freakin wrong shut the f up. until that actually happens i will voice my displeasure and raise my concerns just like i have for the past 12 yrs ive been on footy forums.
a spade ios a spade im only interested in calling it what it is imo of course.
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There's a lot of rubbish in this thread.
Someone tell me- why is Frawleys name mentioned?
free agent next year oxx, just discussing the merits of having a crack at him
If that's the case, I'm in.
Frawleys owe us!
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lol @ claw being king of the christian salem bandwagon
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
now i take issue with this. i dont deride the club. all ive ever done is speak the truth if you dont like it tough. know it all where. on almost ever occasion i criticise i bakck it up with why i think whaty i think.
you know what i can come across all smug and high and mighty for one simple reason.
over the yrs most things ive said have time and time again been correct. the truth just hurts sometimes.
ive gotta ask where else does an average supporter voice his concerns and air his grievances about his footy side but on a footy forum about said side.
you know what when and only when we actually win something anything, when we manage to perform in big games when it actually counts. when we regularly manage to beat good sides maybe then you can come on here and say claw you were freakin wrong shut the f up. until that actually happens i will voice my displeasure and raise my concerns just like i have for the past 12 yrs ive been on footy forums.
a spade ios a spade im only interested in calling it what it is imo of course.
My problem is that to you, a spade in Richmond colours is inferior to a spade in any other. You look for ways to criticize the club because you have a chip on your shoulder.
And your opinions aren't as good as you think they are. You are an Internet panic merchant not a list manager. Get over yourself.
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lol @ claw being king of the christian salem bandwagon
no not at all at pick 12 i had others i preferred. id certainly argue there was at least 8 players worth taking with pick 9 salem was among them. just stating the fact that we richmond were very keen on him and probably would have taken him if he was there at 12.
tell me judge, how did melbourne do in the tyson salem for pick 2 trade. you have to have an opinion on it.
imo they got potentially in tyson a better player than kelly, and they got a pretty decent player in salem who if we listen to the experts is expected to be very good at least.if we had managed to do something like that people on here would already have gale and the rest of them knighted.
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
now i take issue with this. i dont deride the club. all ive ever done is speak the truth if you dont like it tough. know it all where. on almost ever occasion i criticise i bakck it up with why i think whaty i think.
you know what i can come across all smug and high and mighty for one simple reason.
over the yrs most things ive said have time and time again been correct. the truth just hurts sometimes.
ive gotta ask where else does an average supporter voice his concerns and air his grievances about his footy side but on a footy forum about said side.
you know what when and only when we actually win something anything, when we manage to perform in big games when it actually counts. when we regularly manage to beat good sides maybe then you can come on here and say claw you were freakin wrong shut the f up. until that actually happens i will voice my displeasure and raise my concerns just like i have for the past 12 yrs ive been on footy forums.
a spade ios a spade im only interested in calling it what it is imo of course.
My problem is that to you, a spade in Richmond colours is inferior to a spade in any other. You look for ways to criticize the club because you have a chip on your shoulder.
And your opinions aren't as good as you think they are. You are an Internet panic merchant not a list manager. Get over yourself.
lol i dont need to get over myself. im rarely on here talking myself up. only in threads like this where people are taking the pee.
if i really had tickets on myself id be on here every 5 minutes ramming down your throat the many things i regularly do get right.
and your wrong. i rarely talk about other clubs and the answer is simple for it. i dont watch em like i watch us. yes i do criticise em just as harshly as us. just not as often.
tell me as a kpd whos primary role is to go one on one and stop a player where would frawley sit among our kpds. from what ive seen hes an infinately better player than anything we have.
oh just to finish can you point me in the direction odf where i have actually praised other clubs and their players on here. frawley yep i happen to rate the bloke.
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not to blow my own whislte (i still have all my ribs) but i am the one thats been saying the club has been giving salem training camps for years and very keen on him. not you. :angel:
seeing as #2-#12 in the draft seemed to be quite even, and Tyson a good player, I believe Melbourne have done well from this deal.
All that said, I dont rate Salem highly. But i am no expert on youths
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Get Frawley.. ;D
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Its just a game
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not to blow my own whislte (i still have all my ribs) but i am the one thats been saying the club has been giving salem training camps for years and very keen on him. not you. :angel:
seeing as #2-#12 in the draft seemed to be quite even, and Tyson a good player, I believe Melbourne have done well from this deal.
All that said, I dont rate Salem highly. But i am no expert on youths
Robin Nahas has his own ribs but it doesn't seem to affect him blowing his whistle :whistle ;D
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not to blow my own whislte (i still have all my ribs) but i am the one thats been saying the club has been giving salem training camps for years and very keen on him. not you. :angel:
seeing as #2-#12 in the draft seemed to be quite even, and Tyson a good player, I believe Melbourne have done well from this deal.
All that said, I dont rate Salem highly. But i am no expert on youths
Robin Nahas has his own ribs but it doesn't seem to affect him blowing his whistle :whistle ;D
Thats because in sitting position it rubs against his chin :lol
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Its just a game
under rated post :lol
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
now i take issue with this. i dont deride the club. all ive ever done is speak the truth if you dont like it tough. know it all where. on almost ever occasion i criticise i bakck it up with why i think whaty i think.
you know what i can come across all smug and high and mighty for one simple reason.
over the yrs most things ive said have time and time again been correct. the truth just hurts sometimes.
ive gotta ask where else does an average supporter voice his concerns and air his grievances about his footy side but on a footy forum about said side.
you know what when and only when we actually win something anything, when we manage to perform in big games when it actually counts. when we regularly manage to beat good sides maybe then you can come on here and say claw you were freakin wrong shut the f up. until that actually happens i will voice my displeasure and raise my concerns just like i have for the past 12 yrs ive been on footy forums.
a spade ios a spade im only interested in calling it what it is imo of course.
Sorry to not agree,, i would say time and time again you are incorrect, just fail to admit it and rarely, if ever stand corrected.. You generally find some weird and far fetched reason as to support your failures..
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:lol now you've done it.
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
now i take issue with this. i dont deride the club. all ive ever done is speak the truth if you dont like it tough. know it all where. on almost ever occasion i criticise i bakck it up with why i think whaty i think.
you know what i can come across all smug and high and mighty for one simple reason.
over the yrs most things ive said have time and time again been correct. the truth just hurts sometimes.
ive gotta ask where else does an average supporter voice his concerns and air his grievances about his footy side but on a footy forum about said side.
you know what when and only when we actually win something anything, when we manage to perform in big games when it actually counts. when we regularly manage to beat good sides maybe then you can come on here and say claw you were freakin wrong shut the f up. until that actually happens i will voice my displeasure and raise my concerns just like i have for the past 12 yrs ive been on footy forums.
a spade ios a spade im only interested in calling it what it is imo of course.
Sorry to not agree,, i would say time and time again you are incorrect, just fail to admit it and rarely, if ever stand corrected.. You generally find some weird and far fetched reason as to support your failures..
Yep. Wrong all the time. Rates himself as hero though. It's funny and sad at the same time.
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Just read this on the Demonland forum :lol
gee people love anointing players champions after only one good year i have to laugh frawley should be the best kpd in the comp at his age yet he has been poor id say very poor for the last two seasons at least gee when was he AA? 2009? 2010? sheesh thats a long time ago now this guy hasnt achieved anything to live up to the hype and potential tag once again supporters getting ahead of themselves with one good year has never actually beaten a top line KPF yes the truth hurts sometimes only broke even a couple of times with j.reiwoldt who isnt even very good himself colemans are as meaningless as all australians yet melbourne will hold onto glass half fulls time and time again
posted by hotham glove 9 Dec 2013 at 11:55:32 AM
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Just read this on the Demonland forum :lol
gee people love anointing players champions after only one good year i have to laugh frawley should be the best kpd in the comp at his age yet he has been poor id say very poor for the last two seasons at least gee when was he AA? 2009? 2010? sheesh thats a long time ago now this guy hasnt achieved anything to live up to the hype and potential tag once again supporters getting ahead of themselves with one good year has never actually beaten a top line KPF yes the truth hurts sometimes only broke even a couple of times with j.reiwoldt who isnt even very good himself colemans are as meaningless as all australians yet melbourne will hold onto glass half fulls time and time again
posted by hotham glove 9 Dec 2013 at 11:55:32 AM
All that proves is that Melbourne have their version of claw :lol
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Just read this on the Demonland forum :lol
gee people love anointing players champions after only one good year i have to laugh frawley should be the best kpd in the comp at his age yet he has been poor id say very poor for the last two seasons at least gee when was he AA? 2009? 2010? sheesh thats a long time ago now this guy hasnt achieved anything to live up to the hype and potential tag once again supporters getting ahead of themselves with one good year has never actually beaten a top line KPF yes the truth hurts sometimes only broke even a couple of times with j.reiwoldt who isnt even very good himself colemans are as meaningless as all australians yet melbourne will hold onto glass half fulls time and time again
posted by hotham glove 9 Dec 2013 at 11:55:32 AM
:lol
that definately deserves a :clapping, gerks
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Spooky
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Just read this on the Demonland forum :lol
gee people love anointing players champions after only one good year i have to laugh frawley should be the best kpd in the comp at his age yet he has been poor id say very poor for the last two seasons at least gee when was he AA? 2009? 2010? sheesh thats a long time ago now this guy hasnt achieved anything to live up to the hype and potential tag once again supporters getting ahead of themselves with one good year has never actually beaten a top line KPF yes the truth hurts sometimes only broke even a couple of times with j.reiwoldt who isnt even very good himself colemans are as meaningless as all australians yet melbourne will hold onto glass half fulls time and time again
posted by hotham glove 9 Dec 2013 at 11:55:32 AM
All that proves is that Melbourne have their version of claw :lol
Maybe it is Claw????? :whistle
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Similar written style
Bipolar-bear-claw :whistle
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Bump-bowwwwww.... Not Claw. Only one paragraph
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Bump-bowwwwww.... Not Claw. Only one paragraph
tried to copy paste the whole post but it was too big for the clipboard
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Bump-bowwwwww.... Not Claw. Only one paragraph
tried to copy paste the whole post but it was too big for the clipboard
I stand corrected. :lol
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Bump-bowwwwww.... Not Claw. Only one paragraph
tried to copy paste the whole post but it was too big for the clipboard
I stand corrected. :lol
And looking deeper into it, the non-de-plume "hotham glove" suggests someone that has a heightened interest in all matters manus. Claw, glove, .......hhhhmmmmm. :shh
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:lol
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Being critical of the club now and again is fine but when you seek out opportunities to deride the club I love, while simultaneously praising poo clubs and players, to me that points to something more sinister than just a skeptical fan, and I don't take kindly to it.
Clearly I wasn't blaming Claw for our past failures. My point was that egotistical, misguided know-it-alls were a big part of our demise and i reckon those are the words you will find under 'the Claw' in the OER dictionary.
I've actually said that he makes some interesting points at times, but IMO these are tiny truth nuggets amongst a steaming pile of negative horse poo. To be fair, im sure he feels the same about my posts, but there you go.
now i take issue with this. i dont deride the club. all ive ever done is speak the truth if you dont like it tough. know it all where. on almost ever occasion i criticise i bakck it up with why i think whaty i think.
you know what i can come across all smug and high and mighty for one simple reason.
over the yrs most things ive said have time and time again been correct. the truth just hurts sometimes.
ive gotta ask where else does an average supporter voice his concerns and air his grievances about his footy side but on a footy forum about said side.
you know what when and only when we actually win something anything, when we manage to perform in big games when it actually counts. when we regularly manage to beat good sides maybe then you can come on here and say claw you were freakin wrong shut the f up. until that actually happens i will voice my displeasure and raise my concerns just like i have for the past 12 yrs ive been on footy forums.
a spade ios a spade im only interested in calling it what it is imo of course.
Sorry to not agree,, i would say time and time again you are incorrect, just fail to admit it and rarely, if ever stand corrected.. You generally find some weird and far fetched reason as to support your failures..
your welcome to your opinion. would be nice if you would back it up though. time and time again hey. so perhaps you can point in the direction of where ive been wrong time and time again.
and your wrong when i do get things wrong and am shown to be i have always admitted it.
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Bump-bowwwwww.... Not Claw. Only one paragraph
tried to copy paste the whole post but it was too big for the clipboard
:lol :lol :lol
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ah bugger it. trying to ignore the humour but cant.
a great big :) to the lot of ya smart arses. now good night.
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ah bugger it. trying to ignore the humour but cant.
a great big :) to the lot of ya smart arses. now good night.
:lol :clapping
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ah bugger it. trying to ignore the humour but cant.
a great big :) to the lot of ya smart arses. now good night.
:clapping :santa
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ah bugger it. trying to ignore the humour but cant.
a great big :) to the lot of ya smart arses. now good night.
:lol Good stuff :clapping
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Clawski :clapping
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What is a hotham glove anyway? Is it some sort of Melbourne colloquialism for a prophylactic?
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What is a hotham glove anyway? Is it some sort of Melbourne colloquialism for a prophylactic?
Ask Dooks
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Alpine fisting?
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Brilliant
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Hahaha Big Willy. :clapping :lol
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Throw the kitchen sink at fyfe
If we have big year and freo slip
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LOL
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Alpine fisting?
:lol @ Wilfred b4 snip
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Rival AFL clubs ready to bounce on hesitant Melbourne defender James Frawley
Michael Gleeson
The Age
February 1, 2014
.... Richmond has honest types but lacks a player such as Frawley and has admitted it has been compiling a salary cap buffer to spend on a free agent.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/rival-afl-clubs-ready-to-bounce-on-hesitant-melbourne-defender-james-frawley-20140131-31srt.html
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Do we really want to spend all our saved pennies on another 193cm defender?
I know hes good and all....but......
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It's enjoyable to see us taking the bait from a bored journo (again)
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going to hawthorn
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Heard in a meeting that the Swans have him as good as signed up :shh
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We need to make a decent play for Frawley, could be the key.
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I think we've got frawley covered amongst our squad of 5 tall defenders , and there's a chance Darou could really emerge as the one :shh
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Get him
Mrakov
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We need to make a decent play for Frawley, could be the key.
Agree 100% WAT. If he is available and affordable then we need to have a serious crack at getting him. Would be a win in the same vein as Gibson to Hawthorn a couple of years back.
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Get him. Chaplin has 1-2 years left as he's 30
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We need to make a decent play for Frawley, could be the key.
Agree 100% WAT. If he is available and affordable then we need to have a serious crack at getting him. Would be a win in the same vein as Gibson to Hawthorn a couple of years back.
Yes, I can also remember many on this forum bagging the Gibson trade.....I wanted him, many didn't, the rest is history. We must make a play for Frawley!
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Make him an offer.
If he wants over the odds, tell him to stuff off.
:thumbsup
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Make him an offer.
If he wants over the odds, tell him to stuff off.
:thumbsup
The whole point of FA is you are going to pay overs for players. That makes sense because you basically get a free player, other than the money. (No draft picks or trade needed to get them)
If you want a bargain, go to K Mart. :thumbsup
If you want to drag a good player away from where he is playing, you pay overs. It's pretty simple.
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Make him an offer.
If he wants over the odds, tell him to stuff off.
:thumbsup
The whole point of FA is you are going to pay overs for players. That makes sense because you basically get a free player, other than the money. (No draft picks or trade needed to get them)
If you want a bargain, go to K Mart. :thumbsup
If you want to drag a good player away from where he is playing, you pay overs. It's pretty simple.
Calm down.
I didn't say offer him a Kmart bargain price.
Just what he is worth to the club taking into account all of the factors.
:cheers
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Make him an offer.
If he wants over the odds, tell him to stuff off.
:thumbsup
The whole point of FA is you are going to pay overs for players. That makes sense because you basically get a free player, other than the money. (No draft picks or trade needed to get them)
If you want a bargain, go to K Mart. :thumbsup
If you want to drag a good player away from where he is playing, you pay overs. It's pretty simple.
Calm down.
I didn't say offer him a Kmart bargain price.
Just what he is worth to the club taking into account all of the factors.
:cheers
I'm calm... Just saying... :cheers
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Get him. Chaplin has 1-2 years left as he's 30
Hes 27 :shh
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Get him. Chaplin has 1-2 years left as he's 30
Hes 27 :shh
29 in a few weeks and a bung knee = 31. How much longer do you expect him to play ? I'd say 2 seasons max
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Get him. Chaplin has 1-2 years left as he's 30
Hes 27 :shh
29 in a few weeks and a bung knee = 31. How much longer do you expect him to play ? I'd say 2 seasons max
Chaplin will be 28 in 3 weeks time not 29. His D.O.B. is 23/02/1986. He also played 22 out of 23 games last year with this "bung knee" missing only our round 5 loss to Freo in Perth.
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Get him. Chaplin has 1-2 years left as he's 30
Hes 27 :shh
29 in a few weeks and a bung knee = 31. How much longer do you expect him to play ? I'd say 2 seasons max
Define 'a few' weeks
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Get him. Chaplin has 1-2 years left as he's 30
Hes 27 :shh
29 in a few weeks and a bung knee = 31. How much longer do you expect him to play ? I'd say 2 seasons max
Define 'a few' weeks
:lol
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Still 2-3 seasons at best which is why we need to go for frawley
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Mundy, Frawley Ibbo. Get one of them and we'll be in a happy place
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Ibbotson should represent the best value. Frawley would fill a pressing need, however will cost too much and doubt we'll see him choose a club where his surname is nearly regarded as a profanity and a byword for failure. Need money in the cap to at least be in the race for when Cameron comes on the market.
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Ibbotson should represent the best value. Frawley would fill a pressing need, however will cost too much and doubt we'll see him choose a club where his surname is nearly regarded as a profanity and a byword for failure. Need money in the cap to at least be in the race for when Cameron comes on the market.
Forget about Cameron, as much as id love him he's a club marquee player, and wont be going anywhere on his next contract.
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Richmond a good fit for Frawley
By Jake Niall
The Age
February 14, 2014
No sooner had James Frawley's management confirmed that he had put contract talks with the Demons on hold to ascertain ''the direction of the club,'' rival clubs and others within the AFL realm began to guess at where the defender might be headed if, indeed, he was on the move.
Hawthorn, predictably, was the favourite to snare Frawley if - and it's still very iffy - he chose to exercise his right as a free agent at the end of the season. The logic behind a Hawk raid is compelling: Brian Lake nearing the finish line, Buddy Franklin's exit creating a sizeable salary-cap hole and the club having a need for a medium-term key defender. Hawthorn is not a hard sell for players, either.
St Kilda, obviously, will have an interest in snaring the nephew of Danny Frawley, the club's longest-serving captain, though one could argue that deserting the Dees for the Saints - also a straggler in total rebuild mode - makes no sense, despite the family ties.
But there's another club, also with a less-powerful Frawley connection that ought to be doing, if not ''whatever it takes'', then whatever it can within the confines of its payments structure, to attract the AFL's most eligible free agent stuff. Richmond would gain more than Hawthorn or the Saints if it managed to land Frawley. He is precisely what the Tigers need to progress from finalist to major premiership threat.
Richmond doesn't defend well enough to win the flag. Not yet. While their points-against average was 81 last year, the Tigers did not defend well in most of their losses, in particular, the elimination final, when Carlton scored too many goals with absurd ease; in part, the defensive breakdown was in the midfield, where Chris Judd and Bryce Gibbs had taken charge, but the Tiger defence, too, seemed highly vulnerable - as it had in some key home-and-away games.
Alex Rance has improved immensely, lifting himself from a marginal player to among the first picked in the back six. But he is not built to man the competition's gorillas - such as Travis Cloke (who booted seven against the Tigers), Kurt Tippett and Tom Hawkins. Further, the key forwards of tomorrow are becoming bigger - in the manner of Tippett, and Giants Tom Boyd and Jonathon Patton. Troy Chaplin, a handy foil for Rance, turns 28 before the season and isn't in Frawley's All-Australian league.
The Tigers don't have a single All-Australian-calibre player in their back line and will not win a premiership without either developing or acquiring one. Their uncompromising stand on Dustin Martin's contract was timely, since they will need salary cap room to bridge the gap between finalist and flag. Hawthorn and Sydney have shown that premierships, by and large, cannot be built on drafting alone.
The odds of Frawley leaving is a question that the Tigers, Hawks and various other clubs will ponder in the coming weeks, bearing in mind that, as the Buddy, Brendon Goddard and Tippett coups suggested, teams do not wait until July before chasing an out-of-contract gun - the groundwork must be laid in April and May, at the latest.
Some clubs reckon Frawley is merely waiting to confirm that the Dees won't be terrible again and with a few wins and tangible signs of improvement, he will re-sign. If this is correct, then the onus is on the club to demonstrate that it's on the mend and will contend for a flag in Frawley's football lifetime.
That said, losing Frawley wouldn't necessarily be disastrous for the Dees, given that the free-agency system would likely give them a first-round selection, in line with their ladder position.
If they finished 17th and Frawley walked on a sufficiently large, long-term contract (such as Dale Thomas), the Demons would receive pick No. 3 in a boom draft in return (already having their ''natural'' pick, No. 2) - more than the defender is worth. If Paul Roos is a draft sceptic, this would give them a hell of a ''Chip'' to trade with, at the least.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-a-good-fit-for-frawley-20140213-32ndg.html
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Gotta love that last paragraph, good old dees. Always looking for a way to burn draft pucks and crush a young mans dreams ::)
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Demons already talking about the draft in February :lol
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The Tigers don't have a single All-Australian-calibre player in their back line
Rance was a bit stiff to miss AA last year in case you weren't paying attention Jakey boy
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What I have been saying since I started this thread, he could be the difference!! GET FRAWLEY!! ;D
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Tigers D had the 2nd lowest points against in the comp, needs another defender :shh
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Tigers D had the 2nd lowest points against in the comp, needs another defender :shh
:clapping
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Still don't get it some of you.....
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Still don't get it some of you.....
I get it perfectly bud. When was the last time Frawley played a good game ? Three years ago ?
I don't want him at Richmond. Do you get that ?
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Defence was found lacking in some big games, thats not a lie
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Defence was found lacking in some big games, thats not a lie
Starts in the midfield. Any defence will leak if the ball's coming in quickly and often.
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Rather get Fyfe
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The Tigers don't have a single All-Australian-calibre player in their back line
Rance was a bit stiff to miss AA last year in case you weren't paying attention Jakey boy
The Hawks didn't even have an AA backman last year (Sam Mitchell doesn't count)
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Defence was found lacking in some big games, thats not a lie
Aye, reckon we get done every time an opp midfield starts to cheat fwd of the ball, our mids panic, structure goes out the window, they become reactive and we stop winning clearances. Not sure that's a back 6 problem though.
Hawkins kicked 2 goals against us, Tippett only 3, Petrie 1, Roughhead 0. The D seems to go better against these big fwds than Jake DeNiall gives em credit for. Cloke was the outlier.
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Spot on Gerks.
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Defence was found lacking in some big games, thats not a lie
Starts in the midfield. Any defence will leak if the ball's coming in quickly and often.
Correct, so hard to blame frawley for his questionable form over the past 3 years :) When they were a half decent unit he was a high quality FB and would be a massive addition to our structure imo
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The Tigers don't have a single All-Australian-calibre player in their back line
Rance was a bit stiff to miss AA last year in case you weren't paying attention Jakey boy
no he wasnt no where near it.jakey has it spot on. im absolutely sure our supporters see nothing but the possesions and have some sort of mental block when it comes to actually doing the job hes paid to do.i dont get the denial.
as for depth who can step in and perform anywhere near the required level. frawley would fix this and actually affords rance more freedom to rebound without the need to be super accountable.keep on hearing how we have an abundance of good talls when the opposite is actually the case atm.
if you cant develop em you trade em in when possible.
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i think some supporters see the clangers rance throws up and have some sort of mental block when it comes to the actual job he's paid to do – stop forwards from kicking goals. i get the denial though.
frawley would be a good addition but i wouldnt pay the massive coin needed to bring him in
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no he wasnt no where near it
No worries Chavo.
If Frawley played for us you woulda traded him a year or two ago.
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Defence was found lacking in some big games, thats not a lie
Aye, reckon we get done every time an opp midfield starts to cheat fwd of the ball, our mids panic, structure goes out the window, they become reactive and we stop winning clearances. Not sure that's a back 6 problem though.
Hawkins kicked 2 goals against us, Tippett only 3, Petrie 1, Roughhead 0. The D seems to go better against these big fwds than Jake DeNiall gives em credit for. Cloke was the outlier.
All true, wont argue with that. Just reckon an extra tall especially one that is a stopper first, would take a bit of heat off Rance and Chaps who are both great rebounders and would stop us having to rely on Astbury or Pettard to take that Jessie White type 3rd Tall.
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Still don't get it some of you.....
I get it perfectly bud. When was the last time Frawley played a good game ? Three years ago ?
I don't want him at Richmond. Do you get that ?
Doesn't matter a poo what you want bud. The RFC will no doubt make the decision, let's just hope it's not based on your thoughts... :whistle
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Doesn't matter a poo what you want bud. The RFC will no doubt make the decision, let's just hope it's not based on your thoughts... :whistle
:whistle indeed !
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The defender has put off contract talks with the Demons until he sees how the season unfolds and is understood to be a prospective target for a number of clubs, including Hawthorn and Richmond.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/james-stuff-away-from-demons-20140311-hvhi1.html
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The defender has put off contract talks with the Demons until he sees how the season unfolds and is understood to be a prospective target for a number of clubs, including Hawthorn and Richmond.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/james-stuff-away-from-demons-20140311-hvhi1.html
Well well well.....smart club that RFC... ::)
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Inb4 meltdown after we don't get him :shh
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Inb4 meltdown after we don't get him :shh
If the club at least looks into getting him and the decision is based on the club needs that would be acceptable for mine, not to look and pursue the option to recruit him would be negligent IMO.
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be happy to take frawley I think he would a lot to the tigers.... rance, chaplin , frawley with the run off the flanks looks good.
frawely is good at melbounre but Richmond are at least 75% better then Melbourne so image how good he wpould be for us
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Inb4 meltdown after we don't get him :shh
If the club at least looks into getting him and the decision is based on the club needs that would be acceptable for mine, not to look and pursue the option to recruit him would be negligent IMO.
:clapping I agree. Reckon we'll have a good crack but not go overboard. I was more having a dig at those who might go nuts if we didn't mortgage the ME Bank center to get him.
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Inb4 meltdown after we don't get him :shh
If the club at least looks into getting him and the decision is based on the club needs that would be acceptable for mine, not to look and pursue the option to recruit him would be negligent IMO.
:clapping I agree. Reckon we'll have a good crack but not go overboard. I was more having a dig at those who might go nuts if we didn't mortgage the ME Bank center to get him.
:lol
Worth a crack now he's unrestricted. Don't need to pay overs for him and we can see where his priorities lie. Money or success? Though Hawthorn have both so he probably goes there.
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All clubs will look at him. He fits the right age for our premiership tilt, but I think there will be a bidding war of sorts that will bump his price beyond reason, if he decided to leave the dees that is.
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Just get him!
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Speculation about his future with Free agency.
Come home Chip. Spud would want it so.
Give them Grigg.
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we dont get highly paid players we are moneyball players lol. they can stick moneyball up their arse for all I care.
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we dont get highly paid players we are moneyball players lol. they can stick moneyball up their arse for all I care.
Hard to argue with that Ramps.
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Is this the day of the repeated threads day, FFS it is like Groundhog Day
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Is this the day of the repeated threads day, FFS it is like Groundhog Day
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:lol
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:rollin
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We pay good money to some of our own overrated bunch so why not give this guy 200k more than he's worth ;D
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Range needs assistance. He cannot do everything.
Love grimes but be should be seen as a bonus not a sure thing.
Astbury looks like he can make it eventually.
Chaplain for me looks off the pace and non agile
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Chaplin doesn't have many seasons left. I'd be surprised if he's playing in 2015. Grimes body is done. Astbury is no good in my opinion.
We don't have many other options
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Chaplin doesn't have many seasons left. I'd be surprised if he's playing in 2015. Grimes body is done. Astbury is no good in my opinion.
We don't have many other options
Didn't we give him 3 years?
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Need to have a red hot go at this bloke now!!!
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The HUN reporting this morning that James Frawley has put $800k a season on his head to change clubs
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Melbourne defender James Frawley puts $800,000 bounty on his head to switch clubs
Mark Robinson •
Herald Sun •
April 08, 2014 12:00AM
MELBOURNE defender James Frawley has put a $800,000 bounty on his head to switch clubs.
The out-of-contact Demon has delayed contract talks with his club and his manager has spoken to several clubs under the free agency rules.
It’s understood two clubs, believed to be Carlton and Hawthorn, have been told that $800,000 is the ballpark figure which would extract the All Australian from the Demons.
It’s also believed Fremantle, an active player in the free-agency market last year, would be another interested party.
St Kilda, where his uncle Danny Frawley captained, and Greater Western Sydney would also be suitors.
Frawley’s manager Alex McDonald did not return calls last night.
If Frawley does leave, and Melbourne finishes last on the ladder, it would get pick No.1, and then pick No.2 as compensation for Frawley.
If a club was prepared to pay Frawley in the vicinity of $800,000, it would make Frawley the highest paid key defender in the competition, and among the highest-paid 25 players in the competition.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-defender-james-frawley-puts-800000-bounty-on-his-head-to-switch-clubs/story-fni5f91a-1226877161611
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800g? He'll be staying at Melbourne at that price.
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At that price they can have him
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Sorry James as much as we need to have a red hot crack at you, you need to have a red hot look at yourself. You are valuable and a good player but you are not a superstar. Take your movie star money and shove it. Realistic offers should be made around 450,000 - 500,000 max.
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Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
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Sorry James as much as we need to have a red hot crack at you, you need to have a red hot look at yourself. You are valuable and a good player but you are not a superstar. Take your movie star money and shove it. Realistic offers should be made around 450,000 - 500,000 max.
Correct. Hasn't played well in a while. Part of it is playing in Melbourne, but part is his poo house attitude.
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james who
Only one man id pay that money too and thats Danger, in fact id pay him 1 mil, achieved by moving on titch, king and newman
make it happen.
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james who
Only one man id pay that money too and thats Danger, in fact id pay him 1 mil, achieved by moving on titch, king and newman
make it happen.
Get rid of petard and Grigg too, you could afford the, both
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Sorry James as much as we need to have a red hot crack at you, you need to have a red hot look at yourself. You are valuable and a good player but you are not a superstar. Take your movie star money and shove it. Realistic offers should be made around 450,000 - 500,000 max.
You've got to be joking. After all the times you have pumped him up I thought you would have offered him at least more than what he's already getting. After all the times you've said 'GET HIM' I thought you would have been prepared to do anything to 'GET HIM'.
He's not coming to Richmond for that sort of money.
Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
Nah come on, that's just ass. He's a very good defender.
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Chaplin doesn't have many seasons left. I'd be surprised if he's playing in 2015. Grimes body is done. Astbury is no good in my opinion.
We don't have many other options
Didn't we give him 3 years?
4.
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Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
they will now.....
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Tanking from now the Dees except for round 9. :help
Frawley from a crap club putting a high price on his head. Some cashed up interstate club will be more than happy to have a KPP.
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Sorry James as much as we need to have a red hot crack at you, you need to have a red hot look at yourself. You are valuable and a good player but you are not a superstar. Take your movie star money and shove it. Realistic offers should be made around 450,000 - 500,000 max.
You've got to be joking. After all the times you have pumped him up I thought you would have offered him at least more than what he's already getting. After all the times you've said 'GET HIM' I thought you would have been prepared to do anything to 'GET HIM'.
He's not coming to Richmond for that sort of money.
Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
Nah come on, that's just ass. He's a very good defender.
Coach, stop being silly, put your wanger away for a change. I originally said that but changed to, we need to at least have a good hard go at getting him. For that money though he can stuff off.
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Was going to raise this after the Dees played the Hawks.
We must make a big ploy for this bloke!
Above coach....my first post!!
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Chaplin doesn't have many seasons left. I'd be surprised if he's playing in 2015. Grimes body is done. Astbury is no good in my opinion.
We don't have many other options
Didn't we give him 3 years?
4.
How did we give that spud 4? :gobdrop
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Gerard & Robbo were discussing Frawley on 360 tonight
Both hinted that $800k is the conservative figure and his manager is supposedly look for more :o
Sorry but he isn't worth $800k let alone more than that.
I know people want a big fish - but we shouldn't look at bringing in this bloke on that sort of coin he would end up being be close to our highest paid player
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Gerard & Robbo were discussing Frawley on 360 tonight
Both hinted that $800k is the conservative figure and his manager is supposedly look for more :o
Sorry but he isn't worth $800k let alone more than that.
I know people want a big fish - but we shouldn't look at bringing in this bloke on that sort of coin he would end up being be close to our highest paid player
Agree 100%, I rate Martin 100 fold above Frawley and we didn't budge on his price which is about double the price Frawley want. Is he kidding himself, I suppose we can thank Buddy for inflating the price players will now expect?
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Rather get Gibbs for that money and that's saying something.
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Rather get Gibbs for that money and that's saying something.
Was your mouth out......
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Is that 800,000 rupees or pesos or something?
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Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
and yet as far as 1v1 players go hes a mile in front of our lot. maybe we should start cutting a few of our duds then eh.
i have a question or two for people.
lets say we make finals again optimistic claw i know unusual, and lets also say ben rutten at yrs end is delisted but wants to go one more yr.would anyone be intersted in picking him up as a f/a. i know i would. on the condition we actually draft a promising big bodied 1v1 kpd as well in the nd.
do people agree we just have to at the very least take a big kid in the nd who looks like he can play one v one footy as a kpd. i do. id say we need to look at two if we cant find a mature one.
i have liked a bloke called sully for a few yrs now, for the life of me i cant think of his first name (demetia ) i would have been rapt if we rookie listed him this yr. reminds me of the jamison carlton and hartigan scenario at the crows. anyway i reckon this bloke deserves a chance. a cheapway to build some kpd depth id say.
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Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
and yet as far as 1v1 players go hes a mile in front of our lot. maybe we should start cutting a few of our duds then eh.
i have a question or two for people.
lets say we make finals again optimistic claw i know unusual, and lets also say ben rutten at yrs end is delisted but wants to go one more yr.would anyone be intersted in picking him up as a f/a. i know i would. on the condition we actually draft a promising big bodied 1v1 kpd as well in the nd.
do people agree we just have to at the very least take a big kid in the nd who looks like he can play one v one footy as a kpd. i do. id say we need to look at two if we cant find a mature one.
i have liked a bloke called sully for a few yrs now, for the life of me i cant think of his first name (demetia ) i would have been rapt if we rookie listed him this yr. reminds me of the jamison carlton and hartigan scenario at the crows. anyway i reckon this bloke deserves a chance. a cheapway to build some kpd depth id say.
I agree claw - I wanted us to recruit Matthew Sully as a rookie. He is a monster and is rarely beaten one on one.
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Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
and yet as far as 1v1 players go hes a mile in front of our lot. maybe we should start cutting a few of our duds then eh.
i have a question or two for people.
lets say we make finals again optimistic claw i know unusual, and lets also say ben rutten at yrs end is delisted but wants to go one more yr.would anyone be intersted in picking him up as a f/a. i know i would. on the condition we actually draft a promising big bodied 1v1 kpd as well in the nd.
do people agree we just have to at the very least take a big kid in the nd who looks like he can play one v one footy as a kpd. i do. id say we need to look at two if we cant find a mature one.
i have liked a bloke called sully for a few yrs now, for the life of me i cant think of his first name (demetia ) i would have been rapt if we rookie listed him this yr. reminds me of the jamison carlton and hartigan scenario at the crows. anyway i reckon this bloke deserves a chance. a cheapway to build some kpd depth id say.
I agree claw - I wanted us to recruit Matthew Sully as a rookie. He is a monster and is rarely beaten one on one.
ah mathew sully well done sir im indebted.
fair dinkum there are a few at wafl just like sully as well. anyway we agree as a rookie even if he fails its a failed attempt at fixing what is a glaring need imo. people dont realise but to find one real good kpp we may need to go thru 5 or 6 in all areras rookie nd psd trade yet we willl cop we have too many on our list because too many cant can see past the starting 22.
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I say we pay 800k for Frawley, as a package with his father, who receives a full public apology from the RFC and is reinstated as coach.
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Most overrated player going around. Turn over king , fumbles, rarely takes a mark , doesn't get the ball and his opponent always kicks goals. I'll be filthy if we go after this dud. Wouldn't pay him ten bucks.
and yet as far as 1v1 players go hes a mile in front of our lot. maybe we should start cutting a few of our duds then eh.
i have a question or two for people.
lets say we make finals again optimistic claw i know unusual, and lets also say ben rutten at yrs end is delisted but wants to go one more yr.would anyone be intersted in picking him up as a f/a. i know i would. on the condition we actually draft a promising big bodied 1v1 kpd as well in the nd.
do people agree we just have to at the very least take a big kid in the nd who looks like he can play one v one footy as a kpd. i do. id say we need to look at two if we cant find a mature one.
i have liked a bloke called sully for a few yrs now, for the life of me i cant think of his first name (demetia ) i would have been rapt if we rookie listed him this yr. reminds me of the jamison carlton and hartigan scenario at the crows. anyway i reckon this bloke deserves a chance. a cheapway to build some kpd depth id say.
The Truck :clapping Slow as dog poo that bloke but probably the best 1 on 1 defender of the last 15 years. Perfect for playing on the likes of Cloke.
I will say it before WAT does. GET RUTTEN
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I say we pay 800k for Frawley, as a package with his father, who receives a full public apology from the RFC and is reinstated as coach.
I think you mean Uncle not Father.
:cheers
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I say we pay 800k for Frawley, as a package with his father, who receives a full public apology from the RFC and is reinstated as coach.
I think you mean Uncle not Father.
:cheers
No, Father.
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I say we pay 800k for Frawley, as a package with his father, who receives a full public apology from the RFC and is reinstated as coach.
I think you mean Uncle not Father.
:cheers
No, Father.
TBR has had a BSI.
:lol
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2 goals, 19 possessions up to 3qtr time.
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Unless we look like going somewhere you can forget about trying to attract decent FAs. Especially those already looking to leave one poo club.
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You could probably get young Kristian Jacksch out of GWS for about $150k a year. Rather spend most of the money on a high quality leader type midfielder.
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2 goals, 19 possessions up to 3qtr time.
Against Carlton who will be bottom of the ladder if this keeps up.
800K is an awfully steep price.
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2 goals, 19 possessions up to 3qtr time.
Against Carlton who will be bottom of the ladder if this keeps up.
800K is an awfully steep price.
Agree too much, but geez, our blokes didn't do much better!
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They can't do much better agreed but if we have Rance, Griff, Astbury is doing okay Jack and we need to unearth another couple of talls. I don't think Frawley is the solution.Had we been in a better on field position I would consider it as I would all free agents but given also the less winning environment he has come from I would have to pass.
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Well I am now completely undecided.....do we need to pay the 800,000K for this bloke instead of the cheap poo we have paid for to date???
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Im not a fan.
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Hawks are cashed up after Buddy left them spending room, and if Lake throws in the towel at the end of this year you can be pretty sure Frawley will be off to Hawthorn next season.
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Well ramps I asked the same question years ago of Mundy and got the same response from most on here, the rest is history. I have also said the same about other players and the rest is history again. We get what we pay for, this guy could come to us and end up All Australian, we need some big recruits at the club, size wise and status wise. We need to get aggressive with trades and free agency and we need to spend now...what choice is there....another complete rebuild, NO WAY!!!!
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Should keep the 800k for.contract extentions griggster Chaplin and co
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Hawks are cashed up after Buddy left them spending room, and if Lake throws in the towel at the end of this year you can be pretty sure Frawley will be off to Hawthorn next season.
Yeah stuffing great, they will go from strength to stuffing humongous...I also wanted Gibson but many didn't....the list of what we have missed out on is huge. We didn't or haven't really had a red hot crack at any talent out there!!!! :banghead
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Well ramps I asked the same question years ago of Mundy and got the same response from most on here, the rest is history. I have also said the same about other players and the rest is history again. We get what we pay for, this guy could come to us and end up All Australian, we need some big recruits at the club, size wise and status wise. We need to get aggressive with trades and free agency and we need to spend now...what choice is there....another complete rebuild, NO WAY!!!!
I agree we need some big name recruits but I would prefer bigger names.
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Well ramps I asked the same question years ago of Mundy and got the same response from most on here, the rest is history. I have also said the same about other players and the rest is history again. We get what we pay for, this guy could come to us and end up All Australian, we need some big recruits at the club, size wise and status wise. We need to get aggressive with trades and free agency and we need to spend now...what choice is there....another complete rebuild, NO WAY!!!!
I agree we need some big name recruits but I would prefer bigger names.
x2 :thumbsup
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Like Dangerfield?
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yes I think the club needs to show intent on attaining greatness. Dangerfield and or Fyfe would be good names.
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Agree need something like that or a nicnat
Clubs needs a boost
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Club won't attract any big names.
Hasn't done so.
Agents of big names pass on us.
Agents of nobodies looking for an extra few years run to us more coin for their client, more coin for the agent when there was nothing else available.
Frawley will go to Hawthorn or Collingwood.
Dangerfield see above and add Geelong
Fyfe see above.
Richmond will get some halia who will play 5 great games and 100 mediocre ones. over 6 seasons at 300-400K a season.
The Skata Cycle. 32 Years and Counting. Plop Plop Plop.
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Like Dangerfield?
YES!!!!
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If only Hardwick copied Hawthorn TPP model instead of Brisbanes. Recycled duds getting top dollar..
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I don't really believe the $800k asking price for Chip Frawley. But I seriously hope we have a crack at this bloke. He has shown he can play forward as well as a KPD.
Could play CHF for us and he would give us the tough hard contest we so desperately need there. Or he could play back and release Rance to play forward. He is as good one on one as anyone in the game at the moment. Both would fight tooth and nail to keep the footy in the forwardline.
Just watching footy lately, it's the teams with real 'goers' win games. Players that want to gut run and are desperate to work hard..
The Roos are a perfect example of this, their list isn't great but they run and run and run. And they have blokes that love a contest.
We need to recruit 'goers' from now on. Loud, aggressive, hard workers and hard runners. No more quiet, lazy, SOFT FOOTBALLERS. We have to many that only do one or none of those things I mentioned- Grigg, Ellis, Conca, Edwards, Vickory, LIDS, Griffiths, Astbury, Chaplin
Come on Tigers you need to do something to change this, start with a big name or two in the off season.
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Age reporting we are looking for class mid fielders and a key forward and won't be going after Frawley
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Pretty consistent with the mail I'm Getting :shh
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Shiels from gws
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harper from north?
blease from melbourne?
they fit our bill, not getting a game and with genuine documented weaknesses
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lycett from WCE or Griffen from the dockers on a serious note
dancing with myself here!
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how is jack steven's contract?
anyone else of quality or character has long ago jumped ship, excluding lenny but including sooking loser who is a mere shadow of his sooking cousin?
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Frawley over Chaplin....
Yes pls
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harper from north?
blease from melbourne?
they fit our bill, not getting a game and with genuine documented weaknesses
Moneyball the third phase you beauty bring it on. :thumbsup
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harper from north?
blease from melbourne?
they fit our bill, not getting a game and with genuine documented weaknesses
horse manure 4k a kilo.
roll up roll up
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Watching Hawks V Melb. I gotta say , James Frawley is a very ordinary player. I seriously doubt he'd get a game in a top team. If any club pays him anywhere near the dollars he's asking they are crazy
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With rance , astbury and chappy as our key backs, frawley would be boxing on with Darrou and dea for that next spot :shh
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Watching Hawks V Melb. I gotta say , James Frawley is a very ordinary player. I seriously doubt he'd get a game in a top team. If any club pays him anywhere near the dollars he's asking they are crazy
Nothing new...very average player IMO
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Anyone who even half-seriously thinks that this guy is worth something like $800k a year and chasing as a free agent should have a good hard look at the replay of today's GWS v Meltank game. He is soft, sooky and not worth a poophteenth of what he thinks he is. Personally I wouldn't offer him $300k a year, let alone what he is supposed to be asking. No heart, bad attitude, everything you wouldn't want to bring into your club.
And, FWIW, karma is a bitch with a long long long memory Meltank. Just ask the Scum how it's working out for those cheats. And to think some on here thought it was our only hope of salvation! :banghead
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Anyone who even half-seriously thinks that this guy is worth something like $800k a year and chasing as a free agent should have a good hard look at the replay of today's GWS v Meltank game. He is soft, sooky and not worth a sissyteenth of what he thinks he is. Personally I wouldn't offer him $300k a year, let alone what he is supposed to be asking. No heart, bad attitude, everything you wouldn't want to bring into your club.
And, FWIW, karma is a bitch with a long long long memory Meltank. Just ask the Scum how it's working out for those cheats. And to think some on here thought it was only hope of salvation! :banghead
Melbourne are trying to pull a swifty on everyone with Frawley. Theyre hoping he leaves so they can get another early 1st round pick. Hopefully no club falls for it. Frawley is a C grade footballer worth about $250k a year at best.
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Anyone who even half-seriously thinks that this guy is worth something like $800k a year and chasing as a free agent should have a good hard look at the replay of today's GWS v Meltank game. He is soft, sooky and not worth a sissyteenth of what he thinks he is. Personally I wouldn't offer him $300k a year, let alone what he is supposed to be asking. No heart, bad attitude, everything you wouldn't want to bring into your club.
And, FWIW, karma is a bitch with a long long long memory Meltank. Just ask the Scum how it's working out for those cheats. And to think some on here thought it was only hope of salvation! :banghead
Melbourne are trying to pull a swifty on everyone with Frawley. Theyre hoping he leaves so they can get another early 1st round pick. Hopefully no club falls for it. Frawley is a C grade footballer worth about $250k a year at best.
He ain't worth anything if he can't stop goals :lol
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His stocks have plummeted that far he d be damned lucky to be worth a used cheeseburger wrapper as it stands :shh
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Straight swap for Hampson
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Anyone who even half-seriously thinks that this guy is worth something like $800k a year and chasing as a free agent should have a good hard look at the replay of today's GWS v Meltank game. He is soft, sooky and not worth a sissyteenth of what he thinks he is. Personally I wouldn't offer him $300k a year, let alone what he is supposed to be asking. No heart, bad attitude, everything you wouldn't want to bring into your club.
And, FWIW, karma is a bitch with a long long long memory Meltank. Just ask the Scum how it's working out for those cheats. And to think some on here thought it was only hope of salvation! :banghead
Melbourne are trying to pull a swifty on everyone with Frawley. Theyre hoping he leaves so they can get another early 1st round pick. Hopefully no club falls for it. Frawley is a C grade footballer worth about $250k a year at best.
Yep they're going for the ol pick 1 and 2 chestnut. Hope that blows up in their faces like the last one did. stuffing dud club, FTO!
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Anyone who even half-seriously thinks that this guy is worth something like $800k a year and chasing as a free agent should have a good hard look at the replay of today's GWS v Meltank game. He is soft, sooky and not worth a sissyteenth of what he thinks he is. Personally I wouldn't offer him $300k a year, let alone what he is supposed to be asking. No heart, bad attitude, everything you wouldn't want to bring into your club.
And, FWIW, karma is a bitch with a long long long memory Meltank. Just ask the Scum how it's working out for those cheats. And to think some on here thought it was only hope of salvation! :banghead
Melbourne are trying to pull a swifty on everyone with Frawley. Theyre hoping he leaves so they can get another early 1st round pick. Hopefully no club falls for it. Frawley is a C grade footballer worth about $250k a year at best.
Yep they're going for the ol pick 1 and 2 chestnut. Hope that blows up in their faces like the last one did. stuffing dud club, FTO!
No matter how bad we play, given our list compared to theirs we should never be losing to them.
Sad indictment on us given we may miss the 8 even if we win our last two.
Frawley will be going interstate.
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Anyone who even half-seriously thinks that this guy is worth something like $800k a year and chasing as a free agent should have a good hard look at the replay of today's GWS v Meltank game. He is soft, sooky and not worth a poophteenth of what he thinks he is. Personally I wouldn't offer him $300k a year, let alone what he is supposed to be asking. No heart, bad attitude, everything you wouldn't want to bring into your club.
And, FWIW, karma is a bitch with a long long long memory Meltank. Just ask the Scum how it's working out for those cheats. And to think some on here thought it was our only hope of salvation! :banghead
Totally agree Smokey although it's debatable whether you would have Chaplain or Frawley.
On the tanking debate, those clubs who opportunistically did it in one season ie. Pies, Hawks, Eagles reap adm continue to reap those benefits but those who went down the path or losing deliberately as a long term strategy have been found out.
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Frawley>chappy
Rance would win the brownlow :shh
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Hers a thought. Frawley to Hawthorn to replace Lake at the end of the year. Whadda people think about that?
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That or Geelong
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Collingwood
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Richmond :shh
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?
Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?
Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong. It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results.
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.
Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley. :pray
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And a lot of injuries too...
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
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I would take him at $500k but not go within a bulls roar at $800k.
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Wouldn't even get a game at RFC, we got Darrou and astbury knocking on the door, get in the queue :shh
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?
Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong. It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results.
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.
Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley. :pray
Firstly, the b&f is a great way to judge a player relative to his peers. Frawley hasn't got a lot to beat at Melbourne so I think it is reasonable to see how his own coaching staff rate him.
You can't compare the development of a 200cm KPP who missed most of his first two years with injury with a top 3 draft choice mid who has had no significant injury. That is plainly wrong and unfair.
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?
Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong. It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results.
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.
Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley. :pray
Firstly, the b&f is a great way to judge a player relative to his peers. Frawley hasn't got a lot to beat at Melbourne so I think it is reasonable to see how his own coaching staff rate him.
You can't compare the development of a 200cm KPP who missed most of his first two years with injury with a top 3 draft choice mid who has had no significant injury. That is plainly wrong and unfair.
I know it's not like for like but the facts are there for all to see. All I'm saying is what he is serving up should be what a pick 19 of 5 years ago should be doing.
I really hope he does become a star of the game because we need him to. Big game for him this week, he needs yo be involved in the game for 4 quarters.
Can I ask, are you related to big Griff in any way?
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All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that. He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?
Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong. It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results.
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.
Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley. :pray
Firstly, the b&f is a great way to judge a player relative to his peers. Frawley hasn't got a lot to beat at Melbourne so I think it is reasonable to see how his own coaching staff rate him.
You can't compare the development of a 200cm KPP who missed most of his first two years with injury with a top 3 draft choice mid who has had no significant injury. That is plainly wrong and unfair.
I know it's not like for like but the facts are there for all to see. All I'm saying is what he is serving up should be what a pick 19 of 5 years ago should be doing.
I really hope he does become a star of the game because we need him to. Big game for him this week, he needs yo be involved in the game for 4 quarters.
Can I ask, are you related to big Griff in any way?
You can and I'm not. ;D
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maybe your his dad and you are being channeled to support the boy you've never known doc ;D
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maybe your his dad and you are being channeled to support the boy you've never known doc ;D
Now let me see what was I doing 23 years ago...... ;D
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at 500k we should be seriously looking at Frawley. 7-800k was ridiculous - but 500k is at market rate for a 26y/o KPD
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Do we really need him?
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Do we really need him?
Valuable experience for our VFL players to learn from
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Damaged goods
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The only player I like at Melbourne is Jack Viney. Has a great attitude, he can play footy and would be a great addition to our midfield.
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The only player I like at Melbourne is Jack Viney. Has a great attitude, he can play footy and would be a great addition to our midfield.
Well we better be quick or he will be stuffed and playing like a girl in a few years time if he stays at the Dees
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Reckon you'd be safe to assume this deal is done and not with us.
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Like SOS in comparison to troy