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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: Judge Roughneck on June 18, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
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So Malthouse was right :lol :lol
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St Kilda star Stephen Milne rocked by rape charge
by: Keith Moor
From: Herald Sun June 18, 2013 2:18PM
POLICE today charged St Kilda star Stephen Milne with four counts of rape following an alleged attack on a woman in 2004.
The charges follow a review of the case ordered by Victoria Police deputy commissioner Graham Ashton.
That review was prompted by an Office of Police Integrity recommendation last year that the brief of evidence be reviewed to ensure all relevant evidence had been properly recorded and retained.
The alleged victim, then a student, 19, claimed to police she was raped in a darkened bedroom of Milne's teammate Leigh Montagna's Highett home after celebrations for St Kilda's family day in 2004.
Milne and Montagna have consistently protested their innocence.
The OPI probe into the case began in 2010 after the detectives who prepared the brief went public with their disappointment that their superior officers, acting on the DPP advice, decided not to charge Milne over the rape allegation.
They claimed other police tried to derail the Milne investigation and tried to influence them not to prosecute him.
But the latest OPI report has found the original rape probe by police was not deliberately hampered or inappropriately influenced.
The OPI pointed out in its report that its investigation was limited to the conduct of police and it was "beyond the scope of the OPI investigation to assess the weight of the evidence against the footballers''.
OPI investigators discovered relevant material was missing from the Milne brief of evidence and recommended that
Victoria Police review the brief before archiving it to ensure all relevant evidence and exhibits were accounted for.
Victoria Police today confirmed it has charged a 33 year-old man from Cheltenham with four counts of rape following an alleged incident in 2004.
The Herald Sun has confirmed that man is Milne.
"The decision to charge follows an extensive review of the initial investigation by specialist detectives within our Sexual Crimes Squad,'' A Victoria Police spokesman said.
"That review was prompted by an OPI recommendation last year that the brief of evidence be reviewed to ensure all relevant evidence had been properly recorded and retained.
"As we have previously made clear, it is a matter of regret that this review found the initial investigation to have been substantially inadequate.
"As a result, further inquiries have been conducted by the Sexual Crimes Squad and after consulting with the Office of Public Prosecutions, the decision has been made to lay charges.
"In recent years Victoria Police have implemented substantial reforms and improvements to our sex crimes investigative processes which has enabled a number of older investigations to be reviewed, offenders identified and charges laid.
"It is unfortunate for all parties concerned that this matter has taken so many years to progress, but having discussed with the alleged victim in this matter, we can confirm that our decision to lay charges accords with her wishes.
"It is now important that the defendant in this matter be afforded the same procedural fairness any other member of the community would expect in these circumstances.
"Victoria Police will be providing no further comment at this time and until the matter has run its course through the normal legal process''
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/st-kilda-star-steven-milne/story-fndv8ufg-1226665661119
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Just a reminder folks that as it stands at the moment he has only been charged, not found guilty
So be careful what you post in this topic, no innuendo, rumour mongering
Please just stick to the facts as they are being reported
That's why the original title of this thread has been amended to how things stand at the moment
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Just a reminder folks that as it stands at the moment he has only been charged, not found guilty
So be careful what you post in this topic, no innuendo, rumour mongering
Please just stick to the facts as they are being reported
That's why the original title of this thread has been amended to how things stand at the moment
Hope OE is giving you a pay rise for moderating this thread. :shh
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So if the tip rat is found guilty, does Malthouse get his money back for stating a fact?
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Woweee I thought it was all done n dusted. Funny how these things come back.
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With this and Melbourne getting a new coach I think a win for Melb (vs Saints) is coming up.
:lol
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Sacked ex-Saint & ex-Bomber Andrew Lovett on facebook today ...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=417651128349495&l=daf8696575
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Sacked ex-Saint & ex-Bomber Andrew Lovett on facebook today ...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=417651128349495&l=daf8696575
Playing the race card, guy has a serious chip on his shoulder. He may have a point though, the media hung him out to dry, alleged prat that he is (I don't really know myself I never met the guy) and if he was white then I'm not sure it would have gone as hard. Jason Gram didn't get anywhere near as a shellacking though he did not get reported for various offenses of a sexual nature. Stalking is not as bad as rape by any means but he was clearly flying close to the edge, restraining orders and the like and guys like Kevin Bartlet didn't totally hoe into him.
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From an article on the AFL website from the 10th June:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-10/milne-to-discuss-crowd-abuse-with-afl
STEPHEN Milne will meet with AFL football operations boss Mark Evans next week to discuss the importance of stamping out abuse from fans.
This meeting takes on a new dimension if Milne wants to play football until the committal hearing.
"I'm the first to admit I love a sledge and getting the boys up and try to get the opposition off their game, but there's places you don't go and it should be the same for supporters as well," Milne told 3AW on Monday afternoon.
It was interesting to see Milne go on the offensive about his history through the mainstream media last week. One week later, he is charged with rape. I would like to speculate on this point further, in particular the timing of these two events, but I would probably break WP's innuendo rule on this thread.
Former Essendon champion and recent hall of fame inductee Matthew Lloyd suggested Milne could be a "poster boy" for helping the AFL to educate fans about what they can and cannot say in the crowd.
Is that right Lloydy boy. And maybe you could be a poster boy for the Gonski report ::)
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Do we still have to use allegedly in front of then tip rats name
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Ohhh no :pray we've gotta plac them next week, I'm staying away from people :outtahere
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What disgusted me was the coverage of the story on AFL 360 tonight when all Gerard and Robbo could think to worry and care about was the state of poor Milne's mind. Not once did those champions of justice and a fair go make mention of the poor girl who has had 9 years of torment, innuendo and stress. P-poor work tonight gents, regardless of the eventual outcome of the trial - no-one's a winner here and Milne is most definitely not the only injured party or victim.
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Not once did those champions of justice and a fair go make mention of the poor girl who has had 9 years of torment, innuendo and stress.
They did actually.
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Not once did those champions of justice and a fair go make mention of the poor girl who has had 9 years of torment, innuendo and stress.
They did actually.
:shh
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Not once did those champions of justice and a fair go make mention of the poor girl who has had 9 years of torment, innuendo and stress.
They did actually.
Your right they did but it was in passing, it was like she after thought
It was more about "poor Milne", champoin of the Saints, blah blah
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Not once did those champions of justice and a fair go make mention of the poor girl who has had 9 years of torment, innuendo and stress.
They did actually.
Your right they did but it was in passing, it was like she after thought
It was more about "poor Milne", champoin of the Saints, blah blah
Blah Blah Blah
Whatever did happen to our potential champion racehorse ;D
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St Kilda has just said Milne has been stood down so he won't be playing.
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St Kilda has just said Milne has been stood down so he won't be playing.
Presumably for Jacqueline Watts' protection.
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The following is a statement from St Kilda president Greg Westaway:
The Board of the St Kilda Football Club met last night following advice that Victoria Police had charged Stephen Milne relating to alleged conduct dating back to 2004.
The Board acknowledges this is a most serious matter, one that is distressing to all the parties involved.
It also recognises that the extended timeframe of the matter and the complexities of the issues involved, make it without precedent.
In considering the matter the Board has been mindful of the rights and obligations of everyone impacted.
Based on this the Board has resolved that in the best interests of all parties concerned, and the duty of care the Club has to Stephen and his family, Stephen will remain a listed player but will take a leave of absence from playing for an indefinite period.
The St Kilda Football Club respects that this matter is now before the Courts. As a consequence we won't be making any further comment at this time.
http://www.saints.com.au/news/2013-06-19/stephen-milne-statement.workstation
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Not once did those champions of justice and a fair go make mention of the poor girl who has had 9 years of torment, innuendo and stress.
They did actually.
If they did then I will apologise profusely but I'm bloody sure I didn't hear it. Can you recall what they said TBR?
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Sketchy but Robbo said something like this is a football show so our focus is on Milne the footballer but we also need to remember there is a young lady who this will be very traumatic for etc etc...
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Fair enough, ta. I will apologise for my comment then.
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Sketchy but Robbo said something like this is a football show so our focus is on Milne the footballer but we also need to remember there is a young lady who this will be very traumatic for etc etc...
But that's all they said, very traumatic for her but then their focus turned to Milne and how shocked he was blah blah
As I said from where I was sitting they mentioned her in passing as an after thought. It was poor so no wonder people may have missed it
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I thought they were acknowledging that though and saying their focus is on football and therefore Milne, but they wanted to also acknowledge how difficult it is for her as well.
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I thought they were acknowledging that though and saying their focus is on football and therefore Milne, but they wanted to also acknowledge how difficult it is for her as well.
Fair enough TBR, all about perception I suppose and how people hear the same thing but can end up viewing it very differently :thumbsup
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Anyone know how or why the charge is for four counts of rape?
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It said in the articles he allegedly 'tried a few times' to have sex with her.
Also the 4 counts could also include digital rape.
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Ah, ok.Thanks.
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He's a repulsive animal
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Stephen Milne's alleged rape victim recently played a crucial role in convincing police to charge him with sexually attacking her.
The Herald Sun has discovered the four rape charges against Milne wouldn't have been laid this week if the alleged victim hadn't wanted to proceed with her complaint.
But she has told the state's top detective she wants to go ahead and that she is prepared to give evidence against Milne.
The head of the Victoria Police crime department, assistant commissioner Stephen Fontana, revealed it was only when he got that commitment from her that Milne was charged on Monday.
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/victoria/womans-evidence-sparks-sex-charges-against-stephen-milne/story-fnii5sms-1226666544036#mm-breached
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It said in the articles he alledgedly 'tried a few times' to have sex with her.
Also the 4 counts could also include digital rape.
Dont forget the alledgedly
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It said in the articles he alledgedly 'tried a few times' to have sex with her.
Also the 4 counts could also include digital rape.
Dont forget the alledgedly
Good pick up
Thanks :thumbsup
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It said in the articles he alledgedly 'tried a few times' to have sex with her.
Also the 4 counts could also include digital rape.
Dont forget the alledgedly
Good pick up
Thanks :thumbsup
Does it still count if you spell it (allegedly) incorrectly?
:lol
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Some high up cops saints fans...
Know the window is now closed
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It said in the articles he alledgedly 'tried a few times' to have sex with her.
Also the 4 counts could also include digital rape.
Dont forget the alledgedly
Good pick up
Thanks :thumbsup
Does it still count if you spell it (allegedly) incorrectly?
:lol
Yes it is substance over form