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Hawks do their sums on Franklin
Jon Pierik
The Age
July 2, 2013
Hawthorn president Andrew Newbold says the Hawks are preparing to deliver Lance Franklin a revised contract offer, but concedes it's ''intuitively possible'' the superstar forward could walk out on the club two days after playing in a grand final.
The Hawks want to know before the end of the season whether Franklin, a restricted free agent, will remain, or accept the riches on offer elsewhere, most likely from Greater Western Sydney.
The Giants' list manager Steve Silvagni said on Sunday his club was speaking with Franklin's agent, Liam Pickering, but Giants football boss Graeme Allan would not confirm on Monday whether a reported six-year deal worth $9million, excluding third-party deals and a possible AFL ambassadorial role, had been tabled.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hawks-do-their-sums-on-franklin-20130701-2p7lf.html#ixzz2XoGuVZMR
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Hawks star Lance Franklin says he loves Sydney ...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-star-lance-franklin-says-he-has-no-plans-to-visit-gws-while-in-sydney/story-fndv8os9-1226706642174
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I dont this secret has been any better kept than GAblett moving to the Gold Coast.
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Jay Clark from the Herald-Sun tweeted last night that "Buddy is gone".
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Reports are surfacing that Lance Franklin has told his teammates this evening at their post match celebrations that he will not be at the club next year.
Teammates are said to be sad but understanding. After all, he has played in two premierships for the Hawks and played 10 years at the club.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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stupid time to tell them :wallywink
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Good stuff em
We need them to disappear to the bottom and quick
An injury here or there lets see how they go next year
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Everyone knew it was a done deal anyway
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12 mil for 6 years. Surely he goes
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and a house?
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Reports are surfacing that Lance Franklin has told his teammates this evening at their post match celebrations that he will not be at the club next year.
Teammates are said to be sad but understanding. After all, he has played in two premierships for the Hawks and played 10 years at the club.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
10 years? So he's been at hawthorn since he was 16 ?
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Looks like it won a Coleman and two premierships and possibly leaving at the same age as Ablett going to Gold Coast. Actually looking at the news today his body language I reckon he's gone.
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Reports are surfacing that Lance Franklin has told his teammates this evening at their post match celebrations that he will not be at the club next year.
Teammates are said to be sad but understanding. After all, he has played in two premierships for the Hawks and played 10 years at the club.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
10 years? So he's been at hawthorn since he was 16 ?
Drafted 2004 leaves 2013, that's 9 years but no, not 10.
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Reports are surfacing that Lance Franklin has told his teammates this evening at their post match celebrations that he will not be at the club next year.
Teammates are said to be sad but understanding. After all, he has played in two premierships for the Hawks and played 10 years at the club.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
10 years? So he's been at hawthorn since he was 16 ?
Drafted 2004 leaves 2013, that's 9 years but no, not 10.
Honestly they might do just as well without him as long as they get a good draft pick for him. Just like we can do without Dusty and Geelong did without Ablett, Buddy is not indispensable.
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The afl draft and free agency facebook page is reporting buddy using gws as smokescreen to deflect to swans. With a number of well paid retirements plus losing players like bolton, mattner, morton, white, mumford they will have pkenty of salary cap space.
Imagine tippett, buddy and reid in fwd line :o
Sorry not able to link it, but I know a few ppl here have that page on fb
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Tony Sheahan claiming Buddy will be a Swan on twitter :huh:
@TonySheahan - Could Buddy Franklin be using GWS as a smokescreen to orchestrate a trade to the @sydneyswans ? Buddy appears bound for the red&white
@TonySheahan - Buddy was adamant Hawks to be compensated for his release hence a suitable trade. Mumford to Hawks adds weight
@TonySheahan - Tippet and the Swans pulled off a major coup in 2012. swans have the budget and Buddy has the Sydney bug. Makes for grt r'ship
@ElijahBallerini - on a scale of 1-10 what's the likeliness of Buddy being a swan next yr?
@TonySheahan - I'd reckon 90%
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So the Swans don't have a salary cap, Tony? :huh3
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Tony Sheahan is a troll and a complete nuffer. Someone needs to take away his internet.
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THE Swans have made a $7m bid to steal Hawthorn’s premiership winner Lance Franklin from cross-town rivals, the GWS Giants.
News Limited can reveal that the move, which will stun the AFL world and enrage Melbourne clubs, involves a five-year, $1.4m per season to lure Franklin to the 2012 premiers.
Space in the salary cap has been created by the retirement of three 2012 premiership players Jude Bolton, Marty Mattner and Mitch Morton.
Power forward Jesse White has also requested a trade and has met with Collingwood.
The big blow for the Swans would be the almost certain departure of premiership ruckman Shane Mumford.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-has-made-a-bid-to-steal-lance-franklin-at-the-last-minute/story-fnfll94y-1226730250653
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Salary cap figures should be open to the public
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Dafuq?
Retirements or not, how the stuff can a side that almost went back to back fit in that sort of cash? More so after putting another gold digger on $800k? "Cost of living allowance" and "ambassadorial roles" are an absolute stuffing rot.
Look forward to Eddie laying into Colless again tomorrow morning on the radio.
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lmfao :clapping
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http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2013/10/buddy-franklin-off-to-sydney-according-to-gws-giants/
Eddie to drop the gloves in 3...2.. ;D
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Checkmate
Lol swans, good on em
They only play the cards the AFL deal them
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I smell a Melbourne Storm esque debacle happening very shortly.
Mumford to the Tigers???
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Tony Sheahan is a troll and a complete nuffer. Someone needs to take away his internet.
Maybe, but he got this one correct. :shh
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Dafuq?
Retirements or not, how the stuff can a side that almost went back to back fit in that sort of cash? More so after putting another gold digger on $800k? "Cost of living allowance" and "ambassadorial roles" are an absolute stuffing rot.
Look forward to Eddie laying into Colless again tomorrow morning on the radio.
They will definitely lose Mumford and White now, and with Mattner and Morton retiring they will have the cap space but will probably fill the list gaps with kids.
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They will definitely lose Mumford and White now, and with Mattner and Morton retiring they will have the cap space but will probably fill the list gaps with kids.
Reckon Mumford is the key one, he was on big $$, so they move him on and that frees up a fair bit of cap, throw in this ridiculous "cost of living allowance" and bingo
You have Buddy running around in red & white
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They will definitely lose Mumford and White now, and with Mattner and Morton retiring they will have the cap space but will probably fill the list gaps with kids.
Reckon Mumford is the key one, he was on big $$, so they move him on and that frees up a fair bit of cap, throw in this ridiculous "cost of living allowance" and bingo
You have Buddy running around in red & white
Isn't the cost of living allowance only a % addition to each contract. If not then it should be they shouldn't just get extra money to buy in top players.
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Isn't the cost of living allowance only a % addition to each contract. If not then it should be they shouldn't just get extra money to buy in top players.
I don't believe it has to be spread evenly between all players
if they have 44 players on their list it and if each player was to receive it; it only works out to be about $22.7k each
AFL have stuffed up here by not enforcing strict conditions eg a % of it must go rookies. It should only be going to players on small contracts not the likes of Tippett or soon to be Buddy
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Don't know why they keep mentioning Mitch Morton, he would have been on less than Billy the Boot Studder. Its still stuffing ridiculous how the Swans can keep picking up marquee players like
they are going out of style.
So I wonder who GWS will be on the hunt for now? They've obviously got cash to burn. Probably pickup half of Essendon now. We'll have no chance getting Adams now unless we can tempt
GWS with Foley or Grimes.
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Damien Barrett believes that Hawthorn will match Sydney's offer but engage Sydney in trade.
Sydney's Pick 14 and Shane Mumford to Hawthorn
Lance Franklin to Sydney.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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Talk now that the deal is 9 years! :o
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Morton was on about 80k lmao
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Talk now that the deal is 9 years! :o
Mark Robinson @Robbo_heraldsun twitter:
"just told about the supposed nine-year deal to buddy by a club source.. the plot thickens
also been told the nine-year deal is worth $10million ... Some Hawks players are aware of the deal
opposition club officials now also saying it is a nine-year deal from Sydney to Franklin"
:gobdrop
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(http://www.velocitysports.com.au/images/Athletes/Alastair%20Lynch/TassieHallofFame_Mercury_2July10.jpg)
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LMAO@ 9 years at his age and injured body.
More like swans have 9 years to pay him out over a 5 year deal with an option
9 years@ 26.haha
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Don't know why they keep mentioning Mitch Morton, he would have been on less than Billy the Boot Studder. Its still stuffing ridiculous how the Swans can keep picking up marquee players like they are going out of style.
Morton would have earned over $100k this year Tiga even if he was on the minimum wage. His $100k, Mumford ~$300k, White ~$150k, Mattner ~$250k and Bolton ~$300k (vets list) frees up a fair chunk of 'Buddy money'. It will all come down to who they fill the list gaps with and I can't see how they can do it with much else than new kids.
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Not bad for a club that can't even get in the black.
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Don't know why they keep mentioning Mitch Morton, he would have been on less than Billy the Boot Studder. Its still stuffing ridiculous how the Swans can keep picking up marquee players like
they are going out of style.
So I wonder who GWS will be on the hunt for now? They've obviously got cash to burn. Probably pickup half of Essendon now. We'll have no chance getting Adams now unless we can tempt
GWS with Foley or Grimes.
Oooh I do hope they steal Hurley or someone else the bummers are in love with. Not that I'm vindictive but that would be just great!
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You gotta wonder what the other Sydney players think of this? It would have to kind of rip apart any team spirit there. Is Hanneberry on 700K? Doubt it but he's their best mid fielder now and ought to get a fair share if Buddy is worth 1.1.
I wonder if someone offered Hanneberry 500K would he be getting a pay rise? I'd offer it for him.
What about the Mike Pykes of this world? Is he being ripped off? We could do with a second ruck, maybe he's only on 120 we might be able to scratch up 200.
Something seems fishy in the harbour city tonight.
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reckon Mumford was on about $500k, he signed a big deal when he first went up there
AFL just announced they are going to investigate this little proposed deal
Joke :laugh:
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How old is the mummy?
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Get mummy :angel:
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reckon Mumford was on about $500k, he signed a big deal when he first went up there
AFL just announced they are going to investigate this little proposed deal
Joke :laugh:
His a free agent isn't he so the hawks can still match their offer. The only problem is the AFL giving them a bigger cap space which allows them to go after marquee players.
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Seems that Sydney is a long way ahead in the free-agent stakes. Somehow told them about the rules of the game and they are now showing everyone else how to play it. Reckon it might be a few years before the Tigers catch up to this kind of fancy footwork.
Dunno how you could offer a 26 year old a nine year contract ..... It might really be a five year deal that they take nine years to pay like OX says.
Thinking forward six years, what happens if you delist a contracted player? Can you replace the player on your list even though you have to keep their payments in your salary cap?
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Seems that Sydney is a long way ahead in the free-agent stakes. Somehow told them about the rules of the game and they are now showing everyone else how to play it. Reckon it might be a few years before the Tigers catch up to this kind of fancy footwork.
Dunno how you could offer a 26 year old a nine year contract ..... It might really be a five year deal that they take nine years to pay like OX says.
Thinking forward six years, what happens if you delist a contracted player? Can you replace the player on your list even though you have to keep their payments in your salary cap?
Give us an extra million dollars a year and watch us catch up quick smart ::)
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Al Paton @al_superfooty twitter:
Tigers knew what they were doing. If they drafted Buddy he would have left 9 years later as a free agent anyway. #standbytambling
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Make cot chin or lids an ambassador if football and pay them outside the cap
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AFL statement: Sydney Swans and Lance Franklin
afl.com.au
6:35pm AEST Tuesday, October 1, 2013
The AFL notes today's developments in regards to reports of a long-term contract offer from the Sydney Swans Football Club to Hawthorn Football Club player and restricted free agent Lance Franklin.
No binding player contract offer can be made until the commencement of the free agency period on Friday, October 4, 2013.
All player football contracts are tripartite agreements between the player, the club and the AFL. They are not ratified until thoroughly scrutinised and approved by the AFL’s Legal, Integrity and Compliance Department.
In regards to player contracts, all clubs are required under the rules to adhere to the TPP (Total Player Payments) rules at all times and this compliance is strictly monitored by the AFL.
As part of the review process by the AFL’s Legal, Integrity and Compliance Department, key people involved in the proposed Franklin arrangement – at this stage a non-binding offer of a nine-year deal – will be interviewed in the coming days to ensure any agreements, arrangements or understandings that are to be entered into are in accordance with the AFL rules and are not in breach of rules relating to conduct prejudicial to the draft, player movement rules and/or the Total Player Payments provisions.
Under enhanced compliance measures, this is now standard procedure and is a process that will be followed for all free agency lodgements.
The AFL also confirmed that all club and player allowances, including the cost-of-living allowance, are currently being reviewed by the AFL.
The Sydney Swans FC are aware of their TPP obligations and understand that they may need to accommodate this proposed contract in an environment in which the cost-of-living allowance may be altered or removed altogether.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-01/afl-statement-sydney-swans-and-lance-franklin
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reckon Mumford was on about $500k, he signed a big deal when he first went up there
AFL just announced they are going to investigate this little proposed deal
Joke :laugh:
Originally signed a 3 year contract for about a mil. Don't know if he extended or upped it at what point.
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Buddy's natural arc
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/45555_650518854980620_384834338_n.jpg)
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/AFL-Draft-News-Trade-News-and-Gossip/278623632170146
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12 mil for 6 years. Surely he goes
10m for 9 still good
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a 9 year contract is a rort for a bloke of his age. as others have said, and it is plain to see, that they will still be paying this when he is no longer playing.
After the tippet sage the swans should be charged with bring the game into disrepute for this.
If the AFL approve this they are basically saying to the football world "we are corrupt and hold you all in contempt"
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a 9 year contract is a rort for a bloke of his age. as others have said, and it is plain to see, that they will still be paying this when he is no longer playing.
After the tippet sage the swans should be charged with bring the game into disrepute for this.
If the AFL approve this they are basically saying to the football world "we are corrupt and hold you all in contempt"
As long as the AFL say that if he retires before the 9 years then any remaining money to paid must be included in the retirement year's cap then it might make them pull their heads in. If he's broken at 32 (more to be expected than lasting to 35) then 4 years of payments into 1 would make it impossible to manage. I don't know if this is possible but I reckon it would be a great deterrent to a bullcrap long term like this is.
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If I hear how brave the Swans are one more time today, I'LL SPEW UP!!!
How are they brave?
They have an extra $900k in their salary cap.
Jon Ralph is now crapping on about how other clubs should be brave and trade a 23-25 year old superstar for pick 1.
Sydney didn't have to trade out any superstars to get Buddy. Sydney aren't trading for a draft pick which may or may not turn out to be a spud. They're getting a proven star in his prime because they have an unfair advantage over the rest of the competition.
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He squeezed out Mumford.
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Liam Pickering says Buudy has been hounded out of Melb that's why he wants to go to Sydney
Pluuuuzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Give me a break
Buddy and Liam are both :wallywink s
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To be fair, Melbourne is ass
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Will there be a Bondi Buddy TV show?
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No-one will know who he is
They'll probably think he is a gay american sailor
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easy enough mistake to make looking down at the top of his head.
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No-one will know who he is
They'll probably think he is a gay american sailor
:lol :lol :lol
I was so impressed with that comment gerks that I got my son to draw this picture of you as a "Thank You"
(http://leafprobably.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/gherkin.jpg)
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your son...
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easy enough mistake to make looking down at the top of his head.
:lol
Everyone on fire in here tonight.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nFAWGVBrWg&feature=youtu.be
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Sydney wins hands down.
Sydney
better beaches
better looking woman by a fair margin.
no one knows him.
better nightlife
Melbourne
better coffee
Lived in Bondi for a bit a few years ago and loved every minute of it. Watching Goodsy ride around daily with his $250 bike was the highlight. Shows his character. Cant see Bud doing that down there but its easy to see why he chose the Swans.
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Apparently Buddy wasn't at the Hawks B&F
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Apparently Buddy wasn't at the Hawks B&F
And didn't even come top 10 !
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Apparently Buddy wasn't at the Hawks B&F
And didn't even come top 10 !
Give 'em a 2nd rounder then FFS.
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Sydney wins hands down.
Sydney
better beaches
better looking woman by a fair margin.
no one knows him.
better nightlife
Can't agree about the women and definitely can't agree with better nightlife!
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well we have different tastes. The woman that i saw in the CBD dress and look classy. Smoking middle age bracket 30-40.
Head down and chill out at Bondi for a day in January, then go to Stkilda and let me know how that goes.
Nightlife again all personal choice.
Melbourne have the better eateries that's for sure.
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well we have different tastes. The woman that i saw in the CBD dress and look classy. Smoking middle age bracket 30-40.
Head down and chill out at Bondi for a day in January, then go to Stkilda and let me know how that goes.
Nightlife again all personal choice.
Melbourne have the better eateries that's for sure.
30-40 to old for me ;). Didn't argue the beaches cause that Bondi > Stkilda comparison sums it up. As you said all personal choice :thumbsup
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Is there a shortage of attractive skirt at st kikda all a sudden
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Is there a shortage of attractive skirt at st kikda all a sudden
No they just swing with tackle though
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Is there a shortage of attractive skirt at st kikda all a sudden
No they just swing with tackle though
and track marks
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No-one will know who he is
They'll probably think he is a gay american sailor
:lol :lol :lol
I was so impressed with that comment gerks that I got my son to draw this picture of you as a "Thank You"
(http://leafprobably.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/gherkin.jpg)
That's beautiful. I love riding a bit of pickle.
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Any sort of proof Sydney women are more attractive thissouthyarra/toorak?
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Any sort of proof Sydney women are more attractive thissouthyarra/toorak?
since men invented money, the prettiest women have gone in search of those that have it, and sydney has more rich pricks than melbourne has tram fare dodgers
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AFL statement: Lance Franklin's move to the Sydney Swans
afl.com.au
October 8, 2013 2:40 PM
Following an investigation by its Legal, Integrity and Compliance Department, the AFL today ratified the long term contract offer from the Sydney Swans Football Club to Hawthorn Football Club player and restricted free agent Lance Franklin, subject to certain conditions being met.
The offer was today forwarded to the Hawthorn FC, who now have three days to decide whether to match the offer or not.
Inquiries were made to ensure any agreements, arrangements or understandings to be entered into are in accordance with the AFL Rules and are not in breach of Rules relating to conduct prejudicial to the Draft, Player Movement Rules and/or the Total Player Payments (TPP) provisions.
AFL General Counsel Andrew Dillon said the AFL had examined the draft Sydney Swans FC contract for player Franklin and conducted formal interviews with the key parties involved around the detail of the proposed arrangement.
Mr Dillon said the AFL acknowledged that the nature of the nine-year deal was an unprecedented commitment of TPP funds to a single player over such a contract length and as a result the AFL sought a number of written guarantees from all members of the Club’s Board, as well as its senior management.
These included:
• An explicit acknowledgement that the long-term specific financial commitment over the nine-year agreement will apply to the Sydney Swans FC’s Total Player Payments (TPP) for each of the nine years, regardless of how many years Franklin is available to play for the club.
• The Swans’ Board and senior management will be required to meet with the AFL on an annual basis specifically to review how the Club is managing its TPP obligations in regards to the Franklin contract.
• An assurance the Board has been provided with all information it required to properly assess the contract offer, including medical reviews and financial planning around the club’s long-term TPP postion.
Separately, Mr Dillon said the AFL had also reconfirmed to the Sydney Swans board and senior management that all club and player allowances, including the Cost Of Living Allowance, were currently being reviewed by the AFL with the prospect of variations from the 2015 season as part of broader revenue-sharing reforms to the competition.
Therefore, the Sydney Swans FC understood that it may need to accommodate the long-term Franklin contract in an environment in which the Cost of Living Allowance has been altered or removed altogether.
- See more at: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-08/afl-statement-lance-franklins-move-to-the-sydney-swans#sthash.a7LeV8kx.dpuf
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Toorak highest rate payers in this country gerks