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Title: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 06, 2013, 05:11:33 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Rampstar on July 06, 2013, 05:12:55 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using

Hardwick is playing his favorites. McBean should have been given a chance by now but he hasnt. McDonough is another kid who has played some nice footy at Coburg and he hasnt had a chance either.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 06, 2013, 05:14:17 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using
I reckon we are short one 'swingman' to cover back or forward as the need arises. Griff or Elton should be persevered with.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: tony_montana on July 06, 2013, 05:15:19 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using

We don't play that way, we prefer to possess the ball and then press from the front keeping it in our half.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 06, 2013, 05:16:27 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using
I reckon we are short one 'swingman' to cover back or forward as the need arises. Griff or Elton should be persevered with.

Yeah Elton.

Astbury.

Ohanlon.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Rampstar on July 06, 2013, 05:18:32 PM
Play the kids and start preparing to book your Rosebud caravans for September  ;D
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 06, 2013, 05:19:39 PM
Aaron black and Robbie torrent are kids...
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Rampstar on July 06, 2013, 05:20:39 PM
Aaron black and Robbie torrent are kids...

yep and they shat on us today. Hardwick needs to stop playing favorites and play some kids too see if we can find 1 or 2 more players for the future.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 06, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
Aaron black and Robbie torrent are kids...

yep and they shat on us today. Hardwick needs to stop playing favorites and play some kids too see if we can find 1 or 2 more players for the future.
If Elton and McBean plays well tomorrow they should be considered.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: gerkin greg on July 06, 2013, 05:24:26 PM
Norf play 3 talls at both ends.

Claw told you all this but he's constantly ignored.

We play 2 talls at both ends.

Going in one tall short can be covered, two and you're ****ed

Gone before the bounce  :thumbsup
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 06, 2013, 05:26:36 PM
Norf play 3 talls at both ends.

Claw told you all this but he's constantly ignored.

We play 2 talls at both ends.

Going in one tall short can be covered, two and you're ****ed

Gone before the bounce  :thumbsup
Claw is an undeservedly, underrated (sic) poster.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 06, 2013, 06:09:15 PM
Why does everyone keep ignoring claw?
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: the claw on July 06, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using
ive been going on about this sort of structure for yrs. north regularly went with hansen tarrant and petrie forward last yr its nothing new. its not just up forward but down back as well, hansen firrito grima thompson  all big bodied and all 190cm plus.and most sides actually structure like this on a regular basis.
at richmond we think we can get away with just riewoldt and vickery as tall forwards and to top the stupidity off we then ask vickery to spend significant time in the ruck what the hell happens to structure when he does go there.

for us and ive said this numerous times an ideal set up with the players we have would be

morris shut down on the smalls  - chaplin if we had a bloke like frawley you would play chaplin  at chb.  - grimes third tall option he needs to get more ball than he does if hes to be a third  option
mcintosh a tall accountable running defender with good skills we dont have one we need him to develop  - rance who i think we must do better than at chb but hes the only option we have atm  - dea/batchelor. i have a lot of time for matt dea i reckon he just needs regular opportunity. jake batchelor actually playing on a bloke his own size geez.

rance chaplin grimes and mcintosh are all 190cm plus. they all move well for big men.

up forward ive regularly pushed for one of elton astbury or griffiths to play kp with jack the other kp and vickery in a pocket as the second ruckman.to be honest i still have huge concerns about vickery.
id even go as far as to play a second ruckman off the bench as long as he was very mobile and agile.

structure has been lousy all yr and we play too many who cant make a decent decision under pressure or butcher the ball under pressure.we also imo lack two big hard at it mids who can extract the ball.

to finish if people think 3 talls  back and forward an anomaly and cant work  go look at last yrs gf.
hawthorn , gunston roughead, franklin with hale regularly going down there.
sydney , actually went lrt, goodes, reid and pyke like hale regularly rested forward.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Rampstar on July 06, 2013, 10:47:03 PM
Lets give the Bean an opportunity as the third tall in the forwardline.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 11, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
Morris. Grimes. Rance.
Houli. Chaplin. Ellis.
Conca. Tuck. Vlastuin.
S.Edwards. Vickery. Martin.
Knights. Riewoldt. Griffiths/McBean.
Maric. Deledio. Cotchin.
Newman. Foley. Arnot.


Astbury. Bachelor. Dea. Helbig.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Andyy on July 11, 2013, 01:12:05 PM
Totally agree. The lack of an extra tall at each end hurts badly. Need Grimes back and IMO and I've been saying it for ages we need a power POWER forward not another weedy forward. Somebody 100kg or more. None of this 195-200cm and 95kg seriously they get manhandled. EG Jack VS McPharlin.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 11, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
Hypothetically If we play:

1st tall - Jack
2nd tall -  Vickery (200cms)
3rd tall -  Griffiths / McBean (200cms)
4th tall - Deledio / Martin / Knights / Vlastuin [tall mid size]

We would stretch other sides. Currently we get dwarfed.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: tony_montana on July 11, 2013, 02:08:18 PM
I'd like to see Petterd played as a medium fwd. Don't rate him in the backline, may surprise up fwd, did play the occassional blinder
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 11, 2013, 02:11:02 PM
I'd like to see Petterd played as a medium fwd. Don't rate him in the backline, may surprise up fwd, did play the occassional blinder

I would prefer Pettard in this role to Aaron Edwards or MCGaune.

4th forward would be ideal:

HF:   Pettard - Vickery - x
FF:   McBean/Griffiths - Riewoldt - x
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: tony_montana on July 11, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
yep agree, and if he cant cut it then id love to see Lids play it more permanently, reckon hed be a boss as a high/roaming HF that could alson pinch hit out of the square. A lot like A.Walker played fwd a few seasons back
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: gerkin greg on July 11, 2013, 02:18:50 PM
i'd like to see Petterd back at Broadbeach with Wayne McGuane
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 11, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
yep agree, and if he cant cut it then id love to see Lids play it more permanently, reckon hed be a boss as a high/roaming HF that could alson pinch hit out of the square. A lot like A.Walker played fwd a few seasons back

I would love Lids as a full time forward.

Morris - Grimes - Chaplin
Houli - Rance - Ellis
Vlastuin - Tuck - Conca
Martin - Riewoldt - Shane Edwards.
Deledio - Vickery - McBean

Maric - Cotchin - Foley
Newman. Knights. Arnot.

My understanding is Deledio played full forward some times as a junior, and killed it.

Deledio has all the tools for a forward.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: tigs2011 on July 11, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
i'd like to see Petterd back at Broadbeach with Wayne McGuane

That's McCarey to you thanks. Otherwise well said. Both are ordinary at best. Crap at worst.

Playing a 184cm KPF doesn't help our lack of size on good days let alone when he's playing for the other team.  :whistle
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 11, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Petrie - Aaron black - robtarrent.

Looked effective.

 If we play mcbean or Griffiths we could replicate this



The everyone in the back 50 and run out is also good and worth using
ive been going on about this sort of structure for yrs. north regularly went with hansen tarrant and petrie forward last yr its nothing new. its not just up forward but down back as well, hansen firrito grima thompson  all big bodied and all 190cm plus.and most sides actually structure like this on a regular basis.
at richmond we think we can get away with just riewoldt and vickery as tall forwards and to top the stupidity off we then ask vickery to spend significant time in the ruck what the hell happens to structure when he does go there.

for us and ive said this numerous times an ideal set up with the players we have would be

morris shut down on the smalls  - chaplin if we had a bloke like frawley you would play chaplin  at chb.  - grimes third tall option he needs to get more ball than he does if hes to be a third  option
mcintosh a tall accountable running defender with good skills we dont have one we need him to develop  - rance who i think we must do better than at chb but hes the only option we have atm  - dea/batchelor. i have a lot of time for matt dea i reckon he just needs regular opportunity. jake batchelor actually playing on a bloke his own size geez.

rance chaplin grimes and mcintosh are all 190cm plus. they all move well for big men.

up forward ive regularly pushed for one of elton astbury or griffiths to play kp with jack the other kp and vickery in a pocket as the second ruckman.to be honest i still have huge concerns about vickery.
id even go as far as to play a second ruckman off the bench as long as he was very mobile and agile.

structure has been lousy all yr and we play too many who cant make a decent decision under pressure or butcher the ball under pressure.we also imo lack two big hard at it mids who can extract the ball.

to finish if people think 3 talls  back and forward an anomaly and cant work  go look at last yrs gf.
hawthorn , gunston roughead, franklin with hale regularly going down there.
sydney , actually went lrt, goodes, reid and pyke like hale regularly rested forward.
I don't often say this but I agree with you claw. I have been saying this for a while. We are 1 to 2 talls down and have been all year.
Title: Re: norf structure three talls.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 28, 2013, 07:02:07 PM
Our. Back line is also too short