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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 03, 2013, 10:14:23 PM
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Kingy and Vickery will be available.
Do we stick with the same successful 22?
Fire away ....
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Drop the Big O. Didn't impress me and isn't much use besides primary Ruck.
Was tempted to say drop Foley but his second half was pretty good.
OUT
- Big O
IN
- Vickery
Tuck to play from the bounce, Whitey or Foley as sub.
King to miss out for now unfortunately.
Astbury probably not needed as J. Brown appears to have injured himself tonight, but would be stiff to omit on the back on a good performance and would be nice to give him more of an opportunity.
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Nil, orrens tap work is good and will be able to use it against luenberger! Maric needs a bit of a hand to stay fresh for our finals assault and even though we will win comfortably needs a chop out.
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The way I see it, it should be a sure thing to win this game.
Play Vickery and get him as much experience as we can, or even McBean. If Maric needs to rest then later on just play Big O instead when we play GWS or something. Big O certainly isn't the future, Ty and Bean are. Bean especially should get a little game time this year...
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Merrett's 150th. :banghead :birthday
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Lol unbelievable
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i hope they keep stephenson in for now. I like the two ruck option and the value in lightening marics workload leading into the finals is not to be underestimated. It also means we aren't down to one tall option in the forward line when maric is off the ground.
If vickery is a must to return, then mcguanne would the choice to go, but he would be stiff. he had more influence on that game than vickery has in any game all year.
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In: Vickery
Out: Stephenson
I hope we pick up Gorringe or Bellchambers
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i hope they keep stephenson in for now. I like the two ruck option and the value in lightening marics workload leading into the finals is not to be underestimated. It also means we aren't down to one tall option in the forward line when maric is off the ground.
If vickery is a must to return, then mcguanne would the choice to go, but he would be stiff. he had more influence on that game than vickery has in any game all year.
agree al, not only good for long term heading into finals but once he was subbed late in the 3rd, Maric was fresh enough to finish the game strongly on his own..
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OUT-Ivan[Rest]
IN-Big B
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OUT-Ivan[Rest]
IN-Big B
I agree with giving Ivan a rest and Kingy 1 more week. Out: Maric.....In: Vickery. In fact rest Maric against GWS too.
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Not saying I agree but Vickery will come straight in
For 1 they have said they want to trial having the 2 genuine ruckman + Vickery
And 2 and more importantly Tyrone is a favourite, means he automatically comes back in ;D
Reckon Shane Edwards saved his bacon yesterday
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reckon the Shane knockers can GAGF
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Orren -> Tyrone
McGaune -> Beanmachine
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McBean has pushed for selection with 6 goals. Not sure McGuane can be dropped though
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I reckon if they give McBean a game before finals it will be GWS in round 22.
I like the Orren and Ivan experiment worked well yeaterday but Tuck's big body and his ability to win the contested ball was perfect for the conditions given yesterday. Tuck's big body will be critical come finals time.
You can drop McGuane after one game and bring in Vickery. Competitions for spots is intense and while McGuane competes he lacks polish as we all know.
Kingy offers another conundrum but our smalls all did their jobs yesterday and we need to keep blokes like Rich, Redden, Rockliff and Hanley in check.
MCG also looked very wet and slippery and was chopped up by todays game also. If there is going to be rain this week and the surface of the ground deteriotes we may have to think about Kingy.
For now
Out McGuane
In Vickery
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king has a blood clot, who knows when he will be back
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king has a blood clot, who knows when he will be back
Didn't know, guess he's out indefinitely for now.
Thanks X. :thumbsup
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(Out) IN
(McGuane) McBean
(Stephenson) Vickery
(Astbury) Grimes
Who comes in for King?
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i dont think king is best 22
if you look at our small/mid forwards: S Edwards, Newman, Foley, Conca etc. King cant get a spot.
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Personally think McGuane added quite a bit to our forward line on Saturday. Will be unlucky to miss against Brisbane IMO.
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Personally think McGuane added quite a bit to our forward line on Saturday. Will be unlucky to miss against Brisbane IMO.
Agree O. But when you look at Torch's Ins/Outs:
(Out) IN
(McGuane) McBean
(Stephenson) Vickery
(Astbury) Grimes
then each one is either an improvement or has serious development potential and that's what successful finals team have - depth.
King, Petterd, Lonergan, Dea, Nahas, are others who can all step straight in and play/fill a role without us losing heaps and that's before we see how much development there might be in McDonough, Elton, Darrou, McIntosh, Williams, O'Hanlon, Helbig, even Griffiths if he survives the cut this year just to name a few. We haven't had a list with a structure this sound since the 70's but our challenge now will be to not let it rest, we need to keep turning over the bottom feeders and nurturing those with some genuine talent. And most importantly, don't let our recent success with retreads or imports go to our heads - 1 or 2 more of quality to fill genuine needs (ruck, kpf, kpd) is ample.
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all of those outs would be stiff to miss.
Mcbean i feel will have to keep performing at the lower level for a little while yet, which i don't see as such a bad thing. I reckon he will get a chance sooner than later though.
If vickery replaces orren then i hope they keep the same structure and use him pretty much as they did with stephenson.
Astbury would be realy stiff to miss out. He earned his recall and did OK. Grimes has missed a lot of football and IMO should now have to earn his recall. As much of a wrap I have for Grimes, I dont think he should be regarded as a monty to walk straight in, particularly at the expense of another youngster who has worked hard for their spot and doesn't deserve to be dropped
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The Barometer - Round 20
Herald-Sun
Monday, Auguest 5, 2013
RICHMOND
INJURIES
Matt Dea (shoulder) test
Jake King (hamstring) test
Ty Vickery (concussion) test
Ricky Petterd (groin) 1 week
Matt Arnot (back) season
Chris Knights (knee) season
Cadeyn Williams (shoulder) season
ON THE BLOCK: Block shmock. No fresh injuries and can’t find any Tigers who deserve to be dropped on form after their best win of the season. Steve Morris had only three disposals (no kicks) but held Cyril Rioli to zero impact, Dave Astbury (10 disposals) took Jack Gunston out of the game and Shane Tuck proved an inspired choice as sub, coming on when the storm hit to grab 12 barn-storming disposals and kick a vital last-quarter goal.
ON THE CUSP: The problem for Damien Hardwick and his match committee is there are players ready to come back and others bashing down the door with strong VFL form. Jake King and Ty Vickery are both strong chances to pass fitness tests, which puts Luke McGuane (two goals against the Hawks) under the pump. Coburg scored a come-from-behind win against North Ballarat with Liam McBean kicking six goals and Aaron Edwards three. Sam Lonergan had 30 disposals, including 14 in the final term, while Robin Nahas and Jake Batchelor were also in the best.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Stop dreaming, Tiger fans, and start planning your September diary (it might be a good idea to vote early!). Richmond can make its third finals appearance in 31 years official with a win against Brisbane at the MCG on Saturday. And the Tigers’ other games – against Carlton, GWS and Essendon – are also winnable. Get on board for what could be a very exciting ride.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-whos-hurt-and-whos-in-line-stuff-1226691412867
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Kingy and Vickery will be available.
Do we stick with the same successful 22?
Fire away ....
My mail is king is out for another week :shh
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Kingy and Vickery will be available.
Do we stick with the same successful 22?
Fire away ....
My mail is king is out for another week :shh
The injury thread? :lol
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Kingy and Vickery will be available.
Do we stick with the same successful 22?
Fire away ....
My mail is king is out for another week :shh
The injury thread? :lol
:lol :lol
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Out McGuane, Stephenson
In Vickery, Nahas (sub)
Astbury can swing fwd when Vicks goes into the ruck
thanks,
gg
Morris Chaplin Astbury
Houli Rance Newman
Ellis Martin Grigg
Maric Cotchin Deledio
Jackson Edwards Conca
Vickery Riewoldt White
Tuck Foley Vlastuin Nahas
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From the way Dimma was speaking pre game I think he really wants to give the 2 fulltime ruckmen plus Vickery a trial before finals.
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Be interesting to see what happens at the selection table over the next 4
There will be players determined to break into the side for finals and those determined to keep their spot, might see the making of a few blokes on the fringes
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Personally think McGuane added quite a bit to our forward line on Saturday. Will be unlucky to miss against Brisbane IMO.
I'll be filthy if they drop McGuane. We are a better team with him in.
He helps our structure , competes like a madman and kicks a couple of snags most weeks. He set the tone early against the Hawks and the boys walked a bit taller
He's also one of the most courageous players in the AFL. Never flinches.
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I agree.
Vickery is the one who needs to stand up as second tall. McGuane kicking two a week as 3rd tall is good. Vickery has to improve on his typical 1 goal/8 hitout performances. Needs to be like 2/10+
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Mcbean please
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Mcbean please
X 2
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I am a massive fan of the beanstalk but now being 7th, I think it's more important we cement a home final final. For that reason I would be happier if we let the beanstalk develop a bit longer at Coburg and go with a more mature forward line (JR, TV, McG)
Looking at EFC, I feel they rushed Daniher in a bit too early and it looks like his confidence took a bit of a blow after their loss to the Hawks
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McBean aint coming in folks. Can't wait to see him next season though.
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McBean aint coming in folks. Can't wait to see him next season though.
What is your mail?
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In Vickery. Out Big O.
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McBean aint coming in folks. Can't wait to see him next season though.
What is your mail?
Richmond groupie
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After watching the highlights Mcbean could play this season. However, I don't mind him being kept for 2014
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
Tall forward Tyrone Vickery is expected to return from his second serious concussion this season, likely at the expense of ruckman Orren Stephenson. Defender Ricky Petterd will need to pass a fitness if he is to return from a groin injury this week. Key defender Dylan Grimes is considered available, but is more likely to spend a third week in the VFL to build form and fitness after 10 weeks sidelined with a serious foot injury. Robin Nahas (30 possessions) continued a strong run of form in the VFL, while Aaron Edwards (three goals and eight marks) pushed his case with Coburg. - Nathan Schmook
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-06/afls-in-the-mix-round-20
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McBean aint coming in folks. Can't wait to see him next season though.
What is your mail?
Richmond groupie
That guy has nfi
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Nahas deserve another chance? :shh
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Yep
Pump up the little Lebo's trade value
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Yep
Pump up the little Lebo's trade value
little as in short?
or little compared to cegler?
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That guy has nfi
I have NFI ? I'll take that as a compliment considering that comment is coming from a bloke (?) using Milli Vanilli as his avatar. NFI indeed !
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I only caught the end of it but did SEN just mention before that Nahas was a chance to come in this week?
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Dimma said Vickery will be back this week.
Grimes will need a couple of more games at VFL level.
Kingy is still sore in the hammy so he's still at least a week away.
Dimma liked Orren's game. Only got 4-5 touches but had a number of hitouts to advantage in the 2.5 qtrs he played.
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Here's the article on the RFC website:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-08-08/vickery-fit-to-play
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Dimma said Vickery will back back.
:gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop
Not ;D
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Dimma said Vickery will back back.
:gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop
Not ;D
Reeaaalyyyy