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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 22, 2013, 02:59:50 AM

Title: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: one-eyed on September 22, 2013, 02:59:50 AM
Next up is Jake Batchelor.

Batch played 9 games in his 3rd year of AFL to take his career tally to 39. His best return was 14 disposals against Melbourne (R8 ), Essendon (R9) and St Kilda (R14). This season he appeared to slip down the pecking order of midsized defenders behind the likes of Petterd and Grimes.
 

         Matches   Kicks   Hballs   Disp.  Marks   Tackles   G.B    1st poss.    Clear.  In50   R50    1%ers
2011     16         7.8      4.8     12.6     3.3        3.1      0.4        0.2         0.4     1.4     2.4      4.2
2012     14         8.6      6.7     15.4     5.0        2.0      0.1                     0.5     1.1     2.9      3.7
2013      9          8.3      3.2     11.6     4.4        1.9      0.1                     0.0     1.5     2.2      5.2

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2061&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2011030


Should we keep or trade Batch?
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Willy on September 22, 2013, 08:20:25 AM
Trade if possible. No takers then one more year.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: WA Tiger on September 22, 2013, 08:22:44 AM
Trade!
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: big tone on September 22, 2013, 08:31:16 AM
Trade.
Unfortunately I cannot see him improving in the areas he is deficient in. Being his ability to defend on the bigger forwards and his agility and speed to play on the smaller forwards. He seems to be an inbetweener.
I have said it before but IMO his only chance of 'making it' is to become a lead up half forward. He does have good hands and hits packs pretty hard. Would be competing against guys like O'hanlon and Knights.
But as I said, trade for mine. Might get a third rounder for him.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Smokey on September 22, 2013, 08:37:10 AM
Trade!

x 2.

Hasn't come on and doesn't show me anything to suggest he will ever be in our best 25.  Might get overs on potential in a trade this year but if he stays then when it's proven he hasn't got enough ability he will be worth nothing.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Gigantor on September 22, 2013, 10:17:26 AM
Me I would keep jake for another year unless some idiot club offers something too good to refuse.I think part of the problem for jake is that he hasn't found his role yet  in the team.Is he a run and carry half back flanker or is he the 3rd tall, chop out type(the boy can mark a football).I would even give him a shot on the wing.
Jake plays the game tough and hard and I hate offloading these types.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: the claw on September 22, 2013, 10:38:18 AM
Trade.
Unfortunately I cannot see him improving in the areas he is deficient in. Being his ability to defend on the bigger forwards and his agility and speed to play on the smaller forwards. He seems to be an inbetweener.
I have said it before but IMO his only chance of 'making it' is to become a lead up half forward. He does have good hands and hits packs pretty hard. Would be competing against guys like O'hanlon and Knights.
But as I said, trade for mine. Might get a third rounder for him.
this.

will only add i think his hamds have been poor far too often. the constant fumbles when hes needed to be clean have been infuriating. imo pace is his biggest problem even to plaay on the bigger forwards.

imo players like grimes mcintosh morris and a great reader of the play like vlastuin plus two kpds of genuine size is the way to go down back. if we could find a player like michael hibberd even better.

unfortunately he is one of many who just has to be in the gun. what will probably save him is there are others we will cut/trade before him.

i wonder how he would go with a bigger motor and playing thru the midfield.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 22, 2013, 11:49:49 AM
Needs a bit more time and will be better than Petterd. 2-3 more years on the list for me.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Gigantor on September 22, 2013, 11:56:16 AM
In time you would get better than petterd mrakov.Getting better than petterd aint a huge obstacle
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on September 22, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
Keep. Wish we were delisting Petterd
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: eliminator on September 22, 2013, 01:26:24 PM
keep. Better than Petterd
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 22, 2013, 01:35:34 PM
Keep. Wish we were delisting Petterd

Why? He's good backup if a Blackman goes down. Dimma will prob have him in the best 22 though  :banghead
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 22, 2013, 01:38:19 PM
Trade if possible. No takers then one more year.

Think it wil be a case of this ^

Trade.
Unfortunately I cannot see him improving in the areas he is deficient in. Being his ability to defend on the bigger forwards and his agility and speed to play on the smaller forwards. He seems to be an inbetweener.
I have said it before but IMO his only chance of 'making it' is to become a lead up half forward. He does have good hands and hits packs pretty hard. Would be competing against guys like O'hanlon and Knights.
But as I said, trade for mine. Might get a third rounder for him.

very good summation of where Jake's at right now

Had a extremely disppointing 3rd year, in some areas i'd go far as to say he went backwards. Played at times like he was unsure of (a) what his role was and (b) afraidn to make a mistake
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Coach on September 22, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
Reckon people treat him a bit harshly as he was very solid in his first two seasons. Still only a pup. If he'd been a spud at Coburg like certain others then maybe he'd get better treatment. Actually how the stuff is that possible? ;D Did look to be lacking toe at times this year.

Gets another year. Can't just give up on a guy who looked like a player in his first 2 years at the club.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: tony_montana on September 22, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
Lose 5kgs, lighten up and see how that goes. At his current build and height its a bit of a disaster, very slow for his height and cant jump over a jam tin. Think if they worked on his agility/speed, trimmed him down could still be a valuable mid size backman. Has a great penetrating kick
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: the claw on September 22, 2013, 07:13:22 PM
i think there a re two mitigating factors in his favor.
1/ hes battled a bit of injury ???
2/ when you look at the list there is only two tall/med defenders on the list, dea at 187cm who idnt think can play on talls  and batchelor at 188cm. i dont know if we can afford to cut this type. one reason why i would like us to look at the 189cm laidler.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Yeahright on September 22, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Agree with putting him out there and see what bites otherwise keep
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: torch on September 22, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Trade.

Neah.
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: tony_montana on September 22, 2013, 09:41:05 PM
i think there a re two mitigating factors in his favor.
1/ hes battled a bit of injury ???
2/ when you look at the list there is only two tall/med defenders on the list, dea at 187cm who idnt think can play on talls  and batchelor at 188cm. i dont know if we can afford to cut this type. one reason why i would like us to look at the 189cm laidler.

Laidler is better than batch no doubt
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 22, 2013, 09:49:15 PM
Pretty happy with how Luke Parker is coming along. Living up to all pre-draft expectations. Solidified his spot in a top 4 midfield, runs both ways and kicks goals. Definite keeper.

Wait wot?
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: tony_montana on September 22, 2013, 09:50:54 PM
Pretty happy with how Luke Parker is coming along. Living up to all pre-draft expectations. Solidified his spot in a top 4 midfield, runs both ways and kicks goals. Definite keeper.

Wait wot?

 :'(
Title: Re: Yeah or Neah - Jake Batchelor?
Post by: Yeahright on September 22, 2013, 10:33:33 PM
Didn't see him get a touch in the middle. Looked okay up forward though