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Tigers split on new president
Jon Pierik
The Age
September 26, 2013 - 6:55PM
The Richmond presidential race has turned into a power struggle, with the board split over who should replace Gary March.
Vice-president Maurice O'Shannassy, a board member since 2004, and Malcolm Speed, a former barrister and sports administrator who joined the Tigers in October 2011, are jostling for the top role.
As March is standing down, he does not have a direct vote, but it's understood he has thrown his weight behind O'Shannassy, a finance and investment expert who sits on a number of the Tigers' sub-committees.
It is believed the AFL has privately been supportive of Speed's bid, although it does not have an official say in the vote. At least one former Richmond president is also supporting Speed.
The remaining eight-member board is divided, although that could change should March's replacement on the board be elected before a final call on the presidency is made. Neither O'Shannassy nor Speed are understood to be willing to step down.
There had been suggestions the Tigers would announce their new president at Monday's best-and-fairest count, or in the days after, but this now may not be done until the annual general meeting later in the year.
March, who took charge in 2005, has even considered not attending next week's count as he feels his job is done, but those close to him are attempting to persuade him to change his mind for a night where he will be thanked for his excellent service.
March has played a key role in rebuilding the club on and off the field. The Tigers made the finals this season for the first time during his tenure and are now debt free.
Speed, keen to build on March's achievements, has an impressive record. He has been the chief executive of the National Basketball League, Cricket Australia and the International Cricket Council, where he had to deal with a plethora of complex integrity issues, including match-fixing, doping and racial storms.
He is the managing director of the Coalition of Major Professional and Participation Sports, helping the likes of CA, the AFL, NRL and Australian Rugby Union deal with major issues.
O'Shannassy, who sits on a number of company boards, has also been managing director of BlackRock Investment Management (Australia), which has offices around the world.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-split-on-new-president-20130926-2ugs8.html
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Its got to be speed,
who knows we may even get a bribe from the afl to make sure it happens.
Speeds CV is ridiculous
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Agree
Maurice O was part of Clinton Casey's ticket and the failed Wallace era
Move over red rover, it's Speedy time
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2 pretty handy candidates just quietly, .not often you get two pillars of the business community facing off in a club election :shh
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is this a friendly battle or can it turn nasty?
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What I'm a little peeved about is the members should be deciding this rather than a faction fight. I've been involved in those and let me say, the best man doesn't always win :shh
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is this a friendly battle or can it turn nasty?
This is Richmond :lol
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Agree
Maurice O was part of Clinton Casey's ticket and the failed Wallace era
Move over red rover, it's Speedy time
Yes so was March ;D
2 pretty handy candidates just quietly, .not often you get two pillars of the business community facing off in a club election :shh
What election? ::) ::)
President is decided by the Board not the members, there is no election
Just quietly of course :whistle
Tigers split on new president
Jon Pierik
March, who took charge in 2005, has even considered not attending next week's count as he feels his job is done, but those close to him are attempting to persuade him to change his mind for a night where he will be thanked for his excellent service.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-split-on-new-president-20130926-2ugs8.html
What crap
March was on 3AW just before our final and said to his last official function would be the B&F
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Maury O ran Blackrock investments, didn't he?
Had a shed load of my super in one of the Blackrock Property Funds ...... main reason I'm still in the workforce ...... wouldn't want the club managed the same way that fund was ......
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dud investment?
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dud investment?
Coming out of it with around 19 cents on the dollar
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just poor choices how the fund invested,or the GFC?
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Agree
Maurice O was part of Clinton Casey's ticket and the failed Wallace era
Move over red rover, it's Speedy time
Yes so was March ;D
I know. About time he FO
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Frozen funds was it?
Yeah I feel the need the need for speed
Maurice! blackrock for you pal
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just poor choices how the fund invested,or the GFC?
Poor fund investment choices from my viewpoint, flow-on effects from the GFC, Australian and International Properties stagnating, smarter investors than me getting out early .....
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Frozen funds was it?
Yes, Daniel. Smart dudes got out early, fund got suspended, investors got told that the fund was backed by quality assets, just liquidity issues ...... then it went downhill from there.
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Speed for me.
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Agree
Maurice O was part of Clinton Casey's ticket and the failed Wallace era
Move over red rover, it's Speedy time
Yes so was March ;D
2 pretty handy candidates just quietly, .not often you get two pillars of the business community facing off in a club election :shh
What election? ::) ::)
President is decided by the Board not the members, there is no election
Just quietly of course :whistle
Tigers split on new president
Jon Pierik
March, who took charge in 2005, has even considered not attending next week's count as he feels his job is done, but those close to him are attempting to persuade him to change his mind for a night where he will be thanked for his excellent service.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-split-on-new-president-20130926-2ugs8.html
What crap
March was on 3AW just before our final and said to his last official function would be the B&F
My point was made that the members should decide it, ..
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My point was made that the members should decide it, ..
Really, you implied there would bean election, there won't be so mute point
Unless of course you intend on changing the constitution as well
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Agree
Maurice O was part of Clinton Casey's ticket and the failed Wallace era
Move over red rover, it's Speedy time
Yes so was March ;D
2 pretty handy candidates just quietly, .not often you get two pillars of the business community facing off in a club election :shh
What election? ::) ::)
President is decided by the Board not the members, there is no election
Just quietly of course :whistle
Tigers split on new president
Jon Pierik
March, who took charge in 2005, has even considered not attending next week's count as he feels his job is done, but those close to him are attempting to persuade him to change his mind for a night where he will be thanked for his excellent service.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-split-on-new-president-20130926-2ugs8.html
What crap
March was on 3AW just before our final and said to his last official function would be the B&F
My point was made that the members should decide it, ..
this was the same group of members who voted for greg miller lol. in effect putting a employee of the club onto the board to judge the performance of the CEO whilst the CEO had to judge the performance of Greg Miller as an employee who was on the board. Im sorry BJ but most of our members wouldnt know if their arse was on fire.
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I've met Maurie at certain functions and know some of his relatives. Lives and breathes tigers.
I think we are in safe hands either way.
More importantly we need to keep Benny Gale chained to the CEO position till he keels over! He is the most important person at our footy club and by a fair margin!
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My point was made that the members should decide it, ..
Really, you implied there would bean election, there won't be so mute point
Unless of course you intend on changing the constitution as well
::) ::) ::)
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Vote 1 Anthony Mithen
:clapping
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Speed seems the more qualified of the two
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Agree
Maurice O was part of Clinton Casey's ticket and the failed Wallace era
Move over red rover, it's Speedy time
Yes so was March ;D
2 pretty handy candidates just quietly, .not often you get two pillars of the business community facing off in a club election :shh
What election? ::) ::)
President is decided by the Board not the members, there is no election
Just quietly of course :whistle
Tigers split on new president
Jon Pierik
March, who took charge in 2005, has even considered not attending next week's count as he feels his job is done, but those close to him are attempting to persuade him to change his mind for a night where he will be thanked for his excellent service.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-split-on-new-president-20130926-2ugs8.html
What crap
March was on 3AW just before our final and said to his last official function would be the B&F
My point was made that the members should decide it, ..
this was the same group of members who voted for greg miller lol. in effect putting a employee of the club onto the board to judge the performance of the CEO whilst the CEO had to judge the performance of Greg Miller as an employee who was on the board. Im sorry BJ but most of our members wouldnt know if their arse was on fire.
:clapping
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this was the same group of members who voted for greg miller lol. in effect putting a employee of the club onto the board to judge the performance of the CEO whilst the CEO had to judge the performance of Greg Miller as an employee who was on the board. Im sorry BJ but most of our members wouldnt know if their arse was on fire.
It is also the same membership who voted to the last lot of changes to the constituation 2 years ago that gave the Board the power to appoint their own choice of directors for 3 year terms without those directors having to face the same membership.
And these changes happened mainly because Benny Gale said it was a great idea, not that people understood what the changes actually meant or even bothered to question them. FWIW anyone who was at that AGM would know exactly what I'm talking about ;D
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BJ, a mail man and Damo Barrett walk into a bar.
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A gay bar
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Speed's CV is remarkable.
I wonder why March prefers O'Sh. I don't like the fact the board is divided. Want everyone on the same page, club is run by a cohesive board not a president. Unless you are Collingwood.
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this was the same group of members who voted for greg miller lol. in effect putting a employee of the club onto the board to judge the performance of the CEO whilst the CEO had to judge the performance of Greg Miller as an employee who was on the board. Im sorry BJ but most of our members wouldnt know if their arse was on fire.
It is also the same membership who voted to the last lot of changes to the constituation 2 years ago that gave the Board the power to appoint their own choice of directors for 3 year terms without those directors having to face the same membership.
And these changes happened mainly because Benny Gale said it was a great idea, not that people understood what the changes actually meant or even bothered to question them. FWIW anyone who was at that AGM would know exactly what I'm talking about ;D
Personally don't see the changes to be that catastrophic. I'd expect many of the 60k members being too lazy to educatedly vote in the best directors. Personally I'm happy to see the board nominate. There are obvious negatives but I don't think they are that bad. The members voted in Greg Miller for crying out loud, we don't have a great record. :-[
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Would've expected Craig Cameron to put his hand up.
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Speed's CV is remarkable.
I wonder why March prefers O'Sh. I don't like the fact the board is divided. Want everyone on the same page, club is run by a cohesive board not a president. Unless you are Collingwood.
I don't think the board is divided at all Pope, quite the opposite actually when you look at their recent record. I just think it's simply 2 eminently suitable candidates have put their had up for the main gig - and that's a good healthy thing for any board in any business environment.
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agree smokey
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It's a laugh when people play the Greg Miller card. Come with all the bad nominations, don't just pick 1 because it suits your argument. It isnt uncommon for people to vote in the country, are you that arrogant that we now believe people aren't deserving of the right to vote?
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It's a laugh when people play the Greg Miller card. Come with all the bad nominations, don't just pick 1 because it suits your argument. It isnt uncommon for people to vote in the country, are you that arrogant that we now believe people aren't deserving of the right to vote?
We did vote, we voted in the motion to give the board the power to choose the directors.
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O'Shannassy vs Speed?
Which one hates the cheating scum more?
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It's a laugh when people play the Greg Miller card. Come with all the bad nominations, don't just pick 1 because it suits your argument. It isnt uncommon for people to vote in the country, are you that arrogant that we now believe people aren't deserving of the right to vote?
do you seriously think that a popularity contest is the best way to get the best person for the job?
Do you really believe the average joe blow would have a better idea of who would be the best candidate than the board members who work with these blokes all the time?
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To be honest I would have absolutely no idea who s best,pity they don't come on here(hint ,hint) and give us their vision
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It's a laugh when people play the Greg Miller card. Come with all the bad nominations, don't just pick 1 because it suits your argument. It isnt uncommon for people to vote in the country, are you that arrogant that we now believe people aren't deserving of the right to vote?
do you seriously think that a popularity contest is the best way to get the best person for the job?
Do you really believe the average joe blow would have a better idea of who would be the best candidate than the board members who work with these blokes all the time?
I don't think all people are idiots Al or maybe I think people with vested interests can behave like indulged idiots - take your pick.
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its not so much a case of being idiots, but of being able to make an informed decision. Maybe once elections were a reliable way to get good people into positions, but the slickness of modern spin doctors has changed that. You only have to look at the quality of politicians across the board to see this deterioration.
I would back the board members to have a much better idea of who is best for the job that than most of the members, because they work with them and have an insight most of us will never have. The people who make these decisions are still able to be held to account by the voting members, so they can be removed if board members are looking after their own interests rather than the club's.
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O'Shannassy vs Speed?
Which one hates the cheating scum more?
You're going to have to be more specific
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its easy to resolve this
put both into a UFC ring. Put one in an collingwood jumper, put the other in a carlton jumper and put the referee in Essendon jumper. The one who smashes his opponent and the referee - wins and becomes the Richmond President.
We want mongrels running the club not panzies.
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its easy to resolve this
put both into a UFC ring. Put one in an collingwood jumper, put the other in a carlton jumper and put the referee in Essendon jumper. The one who smashes his opponent and the referee - wins and becomes the Richmond President.
We want mongrels running the club not panzies.
I'm not sure about the logistics of this? Would money be taken from the FTF so they could fly to NSW to make the bout legal??
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its easy to resolve this
put both into a UFC ring. Put one in an collingwood jumper, put the other in a carlton jumper and put the referee in Essendon jumper. The one who smashes his opponent and the referee - wins and becomes the Richmond President.
We want mongrels running the club not panzies.
lmao
saw some UFC the other day for the first time; pretty good stuff.
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its easy to resolve this
put both into a UFC ring. Put one in an collingwood jumper, put the other in a carlton jumper and put the referee in Essendon jumper. The one who smashes his opponent and the referee - wins and becomes the Richmond President.
We want mongrels running the club not panzies.
lmao
saw some UFC the other day for the first time; pretty good stuff.
Hell, have you been living in a box?