One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Rampstar on October 05, 2013, 03:38:50 PM
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Stop trying to recruit crap players from brotherhood bins and op shops Richmond.
Go and get the supporters real players not the hacks we are being associated with in the media.
Dont Waste the Members Money and Dont use up List space on crap players or players who are nearly ready for the pension.
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I feel the same, Ramps.
Be leaders, RFC.
Don't play the rubbish political off season game.
BE ORIGINAL!!!
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Clubs like Richmond who have been fairly diligent with the salary cap face an awkward prospect.
Our best players are on $600k contracts with Deledio and Dusty on $500k and we have done quite well there, especially locking in Cotchin at ~$3mill over 5.
But free market is showing that players who enter are getting overs. $700k for Daisy is ridiculous. So if we want to participate we will have to pay them equal to or perhaps even more than our best players which could cause resentment amongst the ones that you want to upset the least.
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I think we are trying to recruit quality, I don't think the club intentionally tries to recruit crap. We do need certain players to fill certain gaps though, members and supporters need to understand that.
We have the same every year, some didn't want Maric, some didn't want Edwards, some didn't want Knights...and so on.
At the end of the day we need certain players to cover while the likes of McBean, Elton, Arnot, Griff etc. mature......lets see what the trade period and FA brings before we burn the club down. ;D
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we need a couple of proven GUNS or we will go backwards next year
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especially locking in Cotchin at ~$3mill over 5.
I thought Cotch only signed a 2 year deal halfway through this year???
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If blokes were serious about being one club players then they would all sign for ten years from the time of their second contract negotiation, otherwise it's total bull$h1†
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bar deledio, who is a trooper
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especially locking in Cotchin at ~$3mill over 5.
I thought Cotch only signed a 2 year deal halfway through this year???
It was reported (promoted??) as a contract extension which is why I said 5 8)
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No exponent of Australian rules football deserves more than 300k a year.
And that's with generosity.
'Tis a farce.
Seriously, what else are they gonna stuffen do - go to America and play there?
Pffft.
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Good thing this thread is here or the club will never read it.
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especially locking in Cotchin at ~$3mill over 5.
I thought Cotch only signed a 2 year deal halfway through this year???
Correct Cotchin only signed for a further 2 years. Club offered both 4 and 5 year deals, Cotch knocked them back
Will be up for FA when the deal ends, also said at the time something about backing himself into improving enough for a bigger contract in the future or something link that.
Media speculation at the time was this new contract is worth about $800-850k a season. He is clearly our highest paid player
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Thread of the decade, no more bums
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If blokes were serious about being one club players then they would all sign for ten years from the time of their second contract negotiation, otherwise it's total bull$h1†
Yes, because clubs offer 10 year deals all the time only for a player to knock it back...
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Quality in Quantity.
Is that too much to ask ?
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We could recruit a gun. make a big offer for a big name but no we have to keeps no hopers in the team coz dimma likes em or something.
60,000 members this year 70,000 members next year and all we looking at getting are players like Hampson who cant kick over a jam tin and Chapman whose nearly retired and some bloke from South Australia who got the arse from the AFL years ago and whose been playing inthe sanfl.
Richmond members deserve better than that. To take the big step into the top 4 we need to pinch an A grade star from somewhere not doing this picking up players for nothing poo. If we go through this period having not picked up a decent name player we will have gone backwards.
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you look at the hawks Ramps.
they went out made a big play for Burgoyne with Pick 9 and dumped Williams.
Gunston what was he pick 20 odd. Took balls and look at the result. Got hale for peanuts and IMV is seriously underated.
Hampson is a spud lets be fair dinkum here.
we are in need for some further cream because this team wont win us a flag. 1 injury away in the mid or f50 and we will fall back in the pack
Not delisting nahas has now cost us a second/third rounder. Edwards also. They are worth peanuts.
id like to see a statement from Dimma that shows he aint playing favourites and that can start with dumping Grigg and Edwards.
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you look at the hawks Ramps.
they went out made a big play for Burgoyne with Pick 9 and dumped Williams.
Gunston what was he pick 20 odd. Took balls and look at the result. Got hale for peanuts and IMV is seriously underated.
Hampson is a spud lets be fair dinkum here.
we are in need for some further cream because this team wont win us a flag. 1 injury away in the mid or f50 and we will fall back in the pack
Not delisting nahas has now cost us a second/third rounder. Edwards also. They are worth peanuts.
id like to see a statement from Dimma that shows he aint playing favourites and that can start with dumping Grigg and Edwards.
To be fair Daniel at the time Hail was playing no better than Hampson and was about the same age.
A few North mates at the time couldn't believe Hawthorne made a okay for him and clearly it paid off.
In saying that I see nothing in Hampson either and would prefer we didn't go there!!
Also on Nahas how had "not delisting" him cost us a second or third round pick? I'm 90.9% certain he will be traded in the coming weeks, a mid 3rd round pick would be a good get if we are really shrewd we'll ask for a swap of second round pick with a team below us. I'm not sure how it has cost us yet when trade week hasent even started?
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i probably didnt explain it properly.
What i meant was not delisting him after that good year in 2011.
Most on here could see he didn't have the body for AFL or intensity yet we hung onto him and now we will be very lucky to get a third rounder.
Grigg same boat. Has done okay and would be worth something to someone.
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reckon its all about skill set physical attributes and performance. and cost.
an example with cost is chapman. we get him for nothing as a delisted f/a. yes hes 31 but hes still a very good player who ticks every box bar the age box but when he comes for nothing who cares.
matt thomas for example poor kick, slow, doesnt find any ball at afl level. so he doesnt meet the minimum requirement as far as kicking goes. he lacks in one area of the physical stakes in that hes slow. and he lacks in performance at afl level.
he is a real big body and had a top yr at sanfl level. the thing i ask does that offset the weaknesses. not for me it doesnt.
surely we have strict guidelines if you like when looking at opposition players surely we expect players to tick some very basic boxes.
i keep on harping back to it but what ever happened to the club mantra of no more poor kicks and poor decision makers.
i for one have no problem taking players from anywhere as long as they tick most boxes.
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i probably didnt explain it properly.
What i meant was not delisting him after that good year in 2011.
Most on here could see he didn't have the body for AFL or intensity yet we hung onto him and now we will be very lucky to get a third rounder.
Grigg same boat. Has done okay and would be worth something to someone.
Ahhhh, sorry mate I get where your coming from now.
I solely agree but I'm confident all is not lost with getting something for him.
Time will only tell I suppose.
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i keep on harping back to it but what ever happened to the club mantra of no more poor kicks and poor decision makers.
Getting rid of White, McGuane and Nahas would be the RFC doing exactly that
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i probably didnt explain it properly.
What i meant was not delisting him after that good year in 2011.
Most on here could see he didn't have the body for AFL or intensity yet we hung onto him and now we will be very lucky to get a third rounder.
Grigg same boat. Has done okay and would be worth something to someone.
Other clubs watch other clubs players, who knows maybe as closely as we watch our players.
Makes it hard to pull obvious stitch up trades.
Unbelievable hey? :o
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i keep on harping back to it but what ever happened to the club mantra of no more poor kicks and poor decision makers.
Getting rid of White, McGuane and Nahas would be the RFC doing exactly that
agreed it would thats why im so happy mcguane and white are gone.
thing is we still go after types like them ie matt thomas lonergan petterd.
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Does chapman tick the injury box?
This is critical for someone in his age bracket
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Does chapman tick the injury box?
This is critical for someone in his age bracket
More so than what Cousins did I would think.
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so we get him?
Me I would avoid him like the plague
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i probably didnt explain it properly.
What i meant was not delisting him after that good year in 2011.
Most on here could see he didn't have the body for AFL or intensity yet we hung onto him and now we will be very lucky to get a third rounder.
Grigg same boat. Has done okay and would be worth something to someone.
Other clubs watch other clubs players, who knows maybe as closely as we watch our players.
Makes it hard to pull obvious stitch up trades.
Unbelievable hey? :o
Really can give you plenty of examples where clubs have fallen for it
Williams
Hay
Thompson
Dawes
M Clark
That's just 2 clubs
Claw you are right again mate blessing in disguise seeing the back of those 2. However it's a catch 22 when they are replaced with other spuds
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Does chapman tick the injury box?
This is critical for someone in his age bracket
he sure does. this yr aside for the previous 10 yrs he played a minimum of 19 games.
this yr he did a hammy and the problem was they rushed him back and he then had more problems with it.
when he finally got fit have a look at the game he played wow. but got suspended.
imo injuries are the least of our concern with this bloke hes shown himself to be extremely durable yr in yr out.
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you look at the hawks Ramps.
they went out made a big play for Burgoyne with Pick 9 and dumped Williams.
Gunston what was he pick 20 odd. Took balls and look at the result. Got hale for peanuts and IMV is seriously underated.
Agree with this part daniel, Whorethorn did well with these trades.
I have little doubt though, if we had made these trade the house would have been howled down for giving up so called "valuable" draft picks.