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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 10, 2013, 02:36:44 PM

Title: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2013, 02:36:44 PM
The Saints you would now reckon will be close to wooden spoon favourites next year.

Their list is shot and it's going to take a long long major rebuild to fix the mess they are now in.

Gone: McEvoy, Milne, Blake, Koschitzke, Ledger

Possibly gone: Dal Santo, Fisher, Armitage?

Players that will be 30+ in 2014:
Nick Dal Santo (30)
Sam Fisher (31)
Lenny Hayes (34)
Clinton Jones (30)
Leigh Montagna (30)
Nick Riewoldt (31)
Adam Schneider (30)
Sean Dempster (30)

A-graders under 30
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B-graders under 30
Jack Stevens
David Armitage

The best of the rest is slim pickings to say the least:
Sam Gilbert
Jarryn Geary
Dylan Roberton
Farren Ray
James Gwilt
Tom Hickey
Rhys Stanley
Shane Savage



Off-field their financial state is poor as well despite making 3 GFs in 2009-10. Now with a lengthy period in the bottom 4 coming up it's really going to hit their bottom line. The AFL may even come a knocking if it looks again at persuading a Victorian side to relocate interstate. The Saints' NZ deal isn't great for the game either if all the Kiwis will see is one-sided matches thanks to the Saints being crap.   

Glad it's not us!
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Coach on October 10, 2013, 02:54:06 PM
Jack Steven is a gun
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2013, 02:54:29 PM
Just to further illustrate why the Saints are in a total mess ...

@SamLandsberger twitter:

From 2007-10 St Kilda drafted 19 players. Three (Siposs, Stanley, Steven) remain. Top picks Cripps, Winmar, Lynch and McEvoy all gone.
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: wayne on October 10, 2013, 04:51:58 PM
I think they'll be adding to their 27 spoons over the next few years.

I hope we can start paying them back with a few 20 goal thumpings over the next few years.
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 10, 2013, 07:32:33 PM
Not the best time in  the history of Australin football to rebuild
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2013, 07:53:51 PM
St Kilda head of football Chris Pelchen has warned supporters to prepare for short-term pain ahead, as the club re-shapes its playing list for a fresh premiership tilt.

In an open letter to members posted on saints.com.au, Pelchen revealed the Saints would aggressively pursue early draft picks over the next four years, in a bid to "restore the balance" to their list.

And, he said, the club would not seek to recruit free agents until 2016, given players aged 26 and over did not represent the key focus of the "list transition".

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-12/saints-prepped-for-lean-times

Minimum 4 years of pain = gonski for practically the next decade.
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Chuck17 on October 12, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
My heart is bleeding
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 12, 2013, 11:46:06 PM
I thought I saw a breaking news: montagna going to dons somewhere?
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Rampstar on October 12, 2013, 11:47:09 PM
My heart is bleeding

Your sincerity chucky is very heart felt, Im sure the saints supporters appreciate your support in their tough times ahead  :lol
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: tigs2011 on October 13, 2013, 01:56:29 PM
My heart is bleeding

Your sincerity chucky is very heart felt, Im sure the saints supporters appreciate your support in their tough times ahead  :lol
:lol A few years of pay back coming up. How many in a row did they win against us? Let's double it.
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 13, 2013, 02:02:31 PM
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Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 13, 2013, 03:17:57 PM
When a kick off the side of your boot dribbles through for a point and its the one and only defining moment in 140 years of existence then that sums it up as to why they are the least successful team in VFL/AFL history. Pretty much sums up what a sad and sorry organisation they are and why they are the worst club in footy and why I am thankful despite the inept 30 or so years we have endured we are still 10 times the club they are and hopefully that ratio of difference will grow in the not to distant future. ;D
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Loui Tufga on October 13, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
Reading half the threads around here the heading could easily read "Richmonds Bleak Future" ::)
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: one-eyed on October 16, 2013, 10:14:51 PM
The media mentioned tonight that there's talk of Robert Harvey replacing Watters as senior coach with Danny Frawley (yep Spud himself) as his mentor in the role of head of coaching at St Kilda.

:rollin

And it just gets worse for the Saints ...

"St Kilda have lost a major sponsor in Centrebet. Pulled up stumps a year early."

https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: (•))(©™ on October 16, 2013, 10:27:38 PM
AWESOME
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: tdy on October 22, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Not the best time in  the history of Australin football to rebuild

Actually its much better than when Dimma arrived he had to deal with 3 compromised drafts

St Kilda has to deal with a few more remaining compromised drafts due to the priority picks GWS and GC had and traded but its still much better than 3 years ago.

Given they have Chris Pelchen from the Hawks and he did it well at the Hawks, I support their draft strategy to trade what you've got for picks, bottom out next year and build from the bottom.  You don't have to do it that way but its a great way to get a Hodge.  3 inside 20 this year and Billy Longer and 2 more next year, they won 5 games this year so no priority pick but hey 6 good kids potentially 8 if they get their picks inside 40 right and they have the core of a team.

Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: tdy on October 22, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
The media mentioned tonight that there's talk of Robert Harvey replacing Watters as senior coach with Danny Frawley (yep Spud himself) as his mentor in the role of head of coaching at St Kilda.

:rollin

And it just gets worse for the Saints ...

"St Kilda have lost a major sponsor in Centrebet. Pulled up stumps a year early."

https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles

Their admin has always seemed poo, the move to Seaford was not popular, the stuff up with the pokies at the Junction Oval seemed a bit amateur. 

I can't see Harvey as a good coach myself, not hard enough but you never know he would have the respect of the players.
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 22, 2013, 10:08:36 PM
Actually its much better than when Dimma arrived he had to deal with 3 compromised drafts

St kikda only has to contest with the two expansion sides now set up, ready to peak in the next 3-8 years
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: tdy on October 23, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
Actually its much better than when Dimma arrived he had to deal with 3 compromised drafts

St kikda only has to contest with the two expansion sides now set up, ready to peak in the next 3-8 years

true but then everybody does.  Just from a draft point of view its not bad.
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: tony_montana on November 05, 2013, 01:46:40 PM
wrap them up and shift them to NZ or merge them with melbourne
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 05, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
throw the Mar-da-fahkers in jail
Title: Re: St Kilda's bleak future?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 05, 2013, 02:24:24 PM
My theory is a cop high up is a Stkilda fan

Was it coincidence the rat was charged with rape only after the premiership window closed