One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on January 29, 2014, 11:48:10 AM
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According to the AFL site it's Chaplin.
RICHMOND - TROY CHAPLIN
Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin are Richmond's stars and the obvious candidates here. However, the Tigers' versatility in attack and growing depth in the midfield leaves them relatively well placed to cover injury to their two biggest names. It's a different story in defence where Chaplin was irreplaceable in 2013 after crossing from Port Adelaide as a free agent. The Tigers boast a number of young tall defenders – including Dylan Grimes, Ben Griffiths and David Astbury – but injuries have plagued the group. Alex Rance has been a consistent presence since 2009, but he was a significantly better player alongside Chaplin. At 195cm, Chaplin often stands the opposition's most dangerous power forward, allowing Rance to peel off his opponent and rebound. Chaplin, who finished third in the Tigers' best and fairest last season, also has the ability to create attack from defence. He is valued at Punt Road as an on-field marshal who improves the players around him, and the 27-year-old will be critical to the Tigers' chances of pushing into the top four this season. - Nathan Schmook
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-29/who-is-your-clubs-most-important-player
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lmao
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Schmook... schmuck
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Is Schmook a Jew?
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Enter Coach......
He won't be able to resist this tasty morsel
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Port match last year showed we could win without Cotchin. (Conca didn't play that game either IIRC, leaving Tuck as our only genuine/experienced clearance player and he was injured for most of the second half.) Ruckmen only need be servicable most of the time.Maric was poor last year yet we still finished 6th. Hampson & Stephenson should at least play to that level. We surely have enough forward options to at least cover Riewoldt. Chaplin is our most important player. He has no real understudy, Rance at stuff is as useful as t@s on a bull and Astbury would need to improve ten fold.
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Lol
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Give me a break shmooksy ?
Two words >>
TRENT COTCHIN
This bloke has to star for us to achieve anything next year.
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Lol
So we didn't beat Port - who were 5-1 at the time with us coming off three straight losses and away from home- without Cotchin? We have a dozen midfielders on our list, with half a dozen more who can rotate through. At least four (Deledio, Ellis, Conca, Martin) are high quality players - five if you count Vlastuin as a mid. We now have three genuine, experienced ruckmen. We only have one genuine, experienced stuff. Your best player isn't necessarily always your most important.
Clearly some of you have forgotten what an utter shambles our backline was before Chaplin's arrival.
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Up until our last trade period I would have said Maric was our most important player. Now we have Hampson and the Big O actually showed enough to suggest he is a quality reserve. Now, just to throw a spanner in the works, I would suggest Jack is our most irreplaceable player. He was our number one forward target and created the most goals for our team through goal assists. He has the X factor which can not be coached and is always difficult to match up on whether he is deep forward or half half forward.
Without Jack we would not score anywhere near the same amount either straight off his own boot or through his assisting actions.
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theres 4 players we cant afford to lose at anytime. chaplin. riewoldt, maric, cotchin.
riewoldt - there is no other player on our list who can play kpf and consistently kick goals the way jack has. if he goes down who comes in. mcbean elton, maybe griffiths or astbury. trouble is the last two have been developed down back in recent times while the first two need a lot of development.
chaplin - without chaplin two seasons ago we didnt have an effective defensive kpd. atm there is only one other on the entire list in rance who has shown hes remotely capable of holding down a key defensive post.
maric - we dont have another rruckman who has remotely performed to ivans level. we all hope the underwhelming hampson will become a good player.
cotchin - well we dont run real deep in midfield depth but we arent thread bare either. anyway to lose our best mid and player while not as damaging as losing the others he cant really be replaced with a real high quality player.
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I am a tad concerned. with the fact Hampson hasn't played football for 7 years
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I am a tad concerned. with the fact Hampson hasn't played football for 7 years
Great. He'll be exceptionally fresh then!
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I am a tad concerned. with the fact Hampson hasn't played football for 7 years
:lol Just what I was thinkin too :lol
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We did alright without Cotchin all last season.
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We did alright without Cotchin all last season.
How did you rate Kieran Jack's year ? I thought he was outstanding
2013 Brownlow medal
1. Gary Ablett, Gold Coast Suns (28 votes)
2. Joel Selwood, Geelong (27 votes)
3. Dane Swan, Collingwood (26 votes)
4. Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide (22 votes)
Tied 5. Daniel Hannebery, Sydney (21 votes)
T5. Scott Pendlebury, Collingwood (21 votes)
T5. Tom Rockliff, Brisbane (21 votes)
T8. Trent Cotchin, Richmond (19 votes)T8. Kieren Jack, Sydney (19 votes)
10. Jobe Watson, Essendon (17 votes)
T11. Dustin Martin, Richmond (16 votes)
T11. Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn (16 votes)
T11. David Mundy, Fremantle (16 votes)
T14. Luke Hodge, Hawthorn (15 votes)
T14. Rory Sloane, Adelaide (15 votes)
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Cotchin before he hurt himself against freo was on fire, after that not so much, expect him to dominate this year
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We did alright without Cotchin all last season.
How did you rate Kieran Jack's year ? I thought he was outstanding
2013 Brownlow medal
1. Gary Ablett, Gold Coast Suns (28 votes)
2. Joel Selwood, Geelong (27 votes)
3. Dane Swan, Collingwood (26 votes)
4. Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide (22 votes)
Tied 5. Daniel Hannebery, Sydney (21 votes)
T5. Scott Pendlebury, Collingwood (21 votes)
T5. Tom Rockliff, Brisbane (21 votes)
T8. Trent Cotchin, Richmond (19 votes)T8. Kieren Jack, Sydney (19 votes)
10. Jobe Watson, Essendon (17 votes)
T11. Dustin Martin, Richmond (16 votes)
T11. Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn (16 votes)
T11. David Mundy, Fremantle (16 votes)
T14. Luke Hodge, Hawthorn (15 votes)
T14. Rory Sloane, Adelaide (15 votes)
All that proves is what most astute football watchers already know - that the Brownlow is bollocks.
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19 votes or 19 kicks?
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19 votes or 19 kicks?
One vote for every kick that actually hit it's intended target.
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19, someone must have been a bit generous awarding those dinky little floaters then.
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I reckon Oren is cool.
Serviceable back up.
May surprise this year.
LMAO@ Andrew Browne
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We did alright without Cotchin all last season.
How did you rate Kieran Jack's year ? I thought he was outstanding
2013 Brownlow medal
1. Gary Ablett, Gold Coast Suns (28 votes)
2. Joel Selwood, Geelong (27 votes)
3. Dane Swan, Collingwood (26 votes)
4. Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide (22 votes)
Tied 5. Daniel Hannebery, Sydney (21 votes)
T5. Scott Pendlebury, Collingwood (21 votes)
T5. Tom Rockliff, Brisbane (21 votes)
T8. Trent Cotchin, Richmond (19 votes)T8. Kieren Jack, Sydney (19 votes)
10. Jobe Watson, Essendon (17 votes)
T11. Dustin Martin, Richmond (16 votes)
T11. Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn (16 votes)
T11. David Mundy, Fremantle (16 votes)
T14. Luke Hodge, Hawthorn (15 votes)
T14. Rory Sloane, Adelaide (15 votes)
All that proves is what most astute football watchers already know - that the Brownlow is bollocks.
It holds more weight than Richmond b and f
Jack lol.
When chimp is below his best , he is still serviceable
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We did alright without Cotchin all last season.
How did you rate Kieran Jack's year ? I thought he was outstanding
2013 Brownlow medal
1. Gary Ablett, Gold Coast Suns (28 votes)
2. Joel Selwood, Geelong (27 votes)
3. Dane Swan, Collingwood (26 votes)
4. Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide (22 votes)
Tied 5. Daniel Hannebery, Sydney (21 votes)
T5. Scott Pendlebury, Collingwood (21 votes)
T5. Tom Rockliff, Brisbane (21 votes)
T8. Trent Cotchin, Richmond (19 votes)T8. Kieren Jack, Sydney (19 votes)
10. Jobe Watson, Essendon (17 votes)
T11. Dustin Martin, Richmond (16 votes)
T11. Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn (16 votes)
T11. David Mundy, Fremantle (16 votes)
T14. Luke Hodge, Hawthorn (15 votes)
T14. Rory Sloane, Adelaide (15 votes)
All that proves is what most astute football watchers already know - that the Brownlow is bollocks.
It holds more weight than Richmond b and f
Jack lol.
When chimp is below his best , he is still serviceable
Neither have much credibility. B & F's are invariably just popularity contests amongst the players whilst the coaching staff generally weigh votes in favour of plodders who best follow team orders and the best trainers. The Brownlow on the other hand has become a midfielders/big names award that is judged by people who are busy trying to officiate the game not spectate and consequently their votes are usually an afterthought - on top of the fact most modern day AFL umpires are of poor standard and lack a natural feel for the game. (Which is both the fault of the media hyping them up as personalities when the nature of their job should demand they be virtually invisible and the AFL doing their heads in with constant rule changes & directives, but that's for a whole other discussion.)
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since when do players give votes in B&Fs?
:lol @ votes being given to good trainers.
about the closest to getting that part right is coaches weighing votes to those that follow their directions best, it's just sometimes that is a plodder, except for at Richmond, of course, where that has been the case every year for the last 45 years or so.