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Title: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Diocletian on February 05, 2014, 10:28:03 PM
...Ben Darrou, get ready for a promotion....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-defender-dylan-grimes-backs-off-pace-after-suffering-hamstring-tightness/story-fni5f9jb-1226818682568

Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: tony_montana on February 05, 2014, 10:30:25 PM
 :facepalm
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 05, 2014, 10:32:37 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: (•))(©™ on February 05, 2014, 10:38:41 PM
Lower back related.
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Post by: Rampstar on February 05, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
finished  :help
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 05, 2014, 11:39:31 PM
Oh Dylan
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Penelope on February 05, 2014, 11:45:38 PM
lmao

this gets mentioned in another article and no one bats an eyelid.

a journo picks it up and turns it into headlines and it's chicken little time.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: dwaino on February 05, 2014, 11:51:54 PM
Just give him bionic legs already.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Diocletian on February 05, 2014, 11:58:19 PM
He could always borrow that South African sprinter's pair.......he probably won't need them for a while.....
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: dwaino on February 06, 2014, 12:06:45 AM
Was thinking of those but he can still ping a hammy. Actually needs Robocop's suit.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 06, 2014, 07:05:14 AM
lmao

this gets mentioned in another article and no one bats an eyelid.

a journo picks it up and turns it into headlines and it's chicken little time.

 :clapping :clapping

Funniest thing is it got mentioned in an article/interview with Alex Rance, who was at the time was talking about "brain fades" ....oh the irony think he had one telling the media about the hammy tightness don't think it was planned  ;D
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on February 06, 2014, 08:55:20 AM
Will be back in full training next week. Relax  8)
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Dice on February 06, 2014, 09:08:56 AM
Will be back in full training next week. Relax  8)

and then he'll do it again the following week  :banghead

Paper hammies , damaged goods , should've looked to trade him last year.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: tony_montana on February 06, 2014, 10:49:47 AM
lmao

this gets mentioned in another article and no one bats an eyelid.

a journo picks it up and turns it into headlines and it's chicken little time.

maybe some people didnt read the said article? I know I barely read these articles during preseason as they are mainly fluff pieces.

Dont know about the others but everytime I hear the word hammy and D.Grimes in the same sentence I cringe and expect the worse.
..With some justification I would have thought
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 06, 2014, 10:56:15 AM

maybe some people didnt read the said article? I know I barely read these articles during preseason as they are mainly fluff pieces.

Dont know about the others but everytime I hear the word hammy and D.Grimes in the same sentence I cringe and expect the worse.
..With some justification I would have thought

12 months I'd probably have agreed with you but seeing he hasn't had a mjor hamstring problem for at least 8-10 months I am not as worried as I would have been in the past. Remember the injury he had for most of last season was a foot stress fracture problem not the hamstring.

Actually relieved they are taking the conservative approach rather than risking major damage. From all reports it is "tightness" not a strain or a tear. So getting him to ease up on his training is a smart move.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Stripes on February 06, 2014, 11:02:03 AM
Only tightness at the moment and he and the club will be very precautionary about any potential injuries so would be playing it very safe. I believe Astbury will claim the lions share of the 3rd tall defender this year regardless. He is a quick, strong and agile unit who has great disposal. Inexperience and composure has let him down in the past but I think he has shown enough last year to suggest he is moving beyond that flaw. With Grimes and Astbury both fighting for the same spot Dylan better pray he gets his body right.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: gerkin greg on February 06, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
Darrou will be a better player anyway
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 06, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Darrou will be a better player anyway

He'll be delisted without playing seniors
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 06, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
i am afraid astbury may not be in grimes 'class'
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: gerkin greg on February 06, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
Darrou will be a better player anyway

He'll be delisted without playing seniors

negative
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Dice on February 06, 2014, 12:47:40 PM
He is a quick, strong and agile unit who has great disposal.

Just checking....It is David Astbury we're talking about here isn't it ?  The slow , easily outbodied , glacier like moving , poor marking , averaged skilled bloke that wears number 12 for Richmond  ?
Let's hope Grimes can get on the park this year.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: yellowandback on February 06, 2014, 12:56:13 PM
I'm pretty sure Mad Tigers got hold of Stripe's account!
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 06, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
He is a quick, strong and agile unit who has great disposal.

Just checking....It is David Astbury we're talking about here isn't it ?  The slow , easily outbodied , glacier like moving , poor marking , averaged skilled bloke that wears number 12 for Richmond  ?
Let's hope Grimes can get on the park this year.

 :lol :lol ;D ;)
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 06, 2014, 01:36:13 PM
Arseberry should've been delisted in 2011
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: WA Tiger on February 06, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Smart move by the club, does pose some questions going into the season though, how many time will this happen again, is it a once off, will his hammy just snap again??? :-\
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Rampstar on February 06, 2014, 01:58:11 PM
Darrou will be a better player anyway

He'll be delisted without playing seniors

I dont often agree with you but I dont see him having a big future in the game at this point.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Penelope on February 06, 2014, 02:30:09 PM
lmao

this gets mentioned in another article and no one bats an eyelid.

a journo picks it up and turns it into headlines and it's chicken little time.




maybe some people didnt read the said article? I know I barely read these articles during preseason as they are mainly fluff pieces.

Dont know about the others but everytime I hear the word hammy and D.Grimes in the same sentence I cringe and expect the worse.
..With some justification I would have thought

in which case comment does not apply to you. :cheers

others though, commented on the article in question.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Diocletian on February 06, 2014, 02:58:15 PM
OER posted the second article within a minute of the first article & o.p, which at a glance looked like it was a double post as they were both about Rance, hence me ignoring he first article and only commenting on the second article, which made no mention of Grimes. A careless oversight on my part.

I would however also argue that a player with Grimes' history of injury yet again showing symptoms of a re-occurring problem that's plagued him since juniors, is at least cause for some concern.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 06, 2014, 03:23:25 PM
Darrou will be a better player anyway

He'll be delisted without playing seniors

I dont often agree with you but I dont see him having a big future in the game at this point.

Rookies never make it. Better off recruting state league players like clawski has been harping on about for decades
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Diocletian on February 06, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Darrou will make it. Josh Gibson Mk.II. Already better than Kelvin Moore ever was.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Stripes on February 06, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
He is a quick, strong and agile unit who has great disposal.

Just checking....It is David Astbury we're talking about here isn't it ?  The slow , easily outbodied , glacier like moving , poor marking , averaged skilled bloke that wears number 12 for Richmond  ?
Let's hope Grimes can get on the park this year.

No no we're talking about two different blokes - I'm talking about the Astbury who has been one of the best preformed talls on the track this preseason, who has high endurance, is a strong mark, good footskills and is gaining size to out wrestle his opponent. You know the guy who wear Richo's old number.  :laugh:

Astbury is an ever improving player and like Rance did just needs composure. I think you will find as he matures he will become a very capable defender but I do agree with you on your last point - 'Let's hope Grimes can get on the park this year' because he already has that composure.

 :thumbsup

Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 06, 2014, 04:08:07 PM
Arseberry good foot skills . Pfft , never seen him hit a target
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: the claw on February 06, 2014, 04:35:19 PM
i am afraid astbury may not be in grimes 'class'
grimes is solid in the air but we arent getting a great deal of anything else from him in recent times.
astbury at 195cm 97kg 23yrs old and in yr 5  has to be capable of holding down a key defensive position. what other role is there for him in defense. play him there and he either makes it or he fails and we cut him at the end of the yr. he certainly needs to improve a fair bit for this to happen. my main issue with astbury is his pace.
it may be a little wishful with what has gone before , the thing is if he makes it it frees up rance to play dylan grimes  third tall role, a role that hes more suited to. with the way forward lines have gone i really would like to see us with two big kpds  and a couple of running third tall types who can defend if need be.

Darrou will be a better player anyway

He'll be delisted without playing seniors

I dont often agree with you but I dont see him having a big future in the game at this point.

Rookies never make it. Better off recruting state league players like clawski has been harping on about for decades
while im all for taking a good percentage of mature rookies i also think we need to take some juniors as well.
i reckon a prerequisite for a junior on the rookie list is a ruckman if not two.
one only needs to look at the volume of decent  good ruckmen who have come thru the rookie system as juniors.

imo the first 3 rnds in the  nd, trades and free agency is mainly about finding decent players or your better players  and building depth.

 the percentage of rookies that dont make it is high thus i belive we should have a balance between mature and junior rookie spots. you will probably get  a good foot soldier with mature recruits but even with rookie juniors with the unknown element  there is every chance you may get something more. of course the risk is you will get nothing with a large percentage.

logically  theres a greater chance you will get something out of the mature players now,  but there are plenty of circumstances where you need to back in your ability to develop juniors.

an awfull lot of clubs have done and continue to rookie junior ruckmen and reap the rewards down the track. to me its about balance.

i also think kids who have plenty of good attributes but may for example be undersized and will need some time should be taken late nd or rookie draft. eli templeton comes to mind  straight away. there was a lot to like about him and for most pundits was a shock non nd pick.
or maybe a very gifted athlete whos athleticism just should not be overlooked like jon marsh.  he went with pick 75ish in the nd a virtual rookie pick.

to me its about getting the most you can out of all areas while looking after now and the future. playing percentages minimising risk but not forgo possibilities because there is risk. balance.




Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Dice on February 06, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
No no we're talking about two different blokes - I'm talking about the Astbury who has been one of the best preformed talls on the track this preseason, who has high endurance, is a strong mark, good footskills and is gaining size to out wrestle his opponent.

Aaaah you mean that Astbury. Nah I haven't seen him. Must be a hell of a lot better in all areas than the one who's been on our list for the past few years.
Two Astburys ! One's a stud and the other's a dud.
My apologies. You can understand my confusion I'm sure  ;D
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 06, 2014, 06:32:25 PM
I thought Astbury and Grimes were the same guy until I read this.

Oh, and rookies NEVER make it.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 06, 2014, 07:00:11 PM
Arseberry good foot skills . Pfft , never seen him hit a target

Draft camp test test testing
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Diocletian on February 06, 2014, 07:41:11 PM
Great footskills under the heavy pressure applied by those witches hats placed on the gymnasium floor at draft camp.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: yellowandback on February 06, 2014, 08:25:31 PM
He is a quick, strong and agile unit who has great disposal.

Just checking....It is David Astbury we're talking about here isn't it ?  The slow , easily outbodied , glacier like moving , poor marking , averaged skilled bloke that wears number 12 for Richmond  ?
Let's hope Grimes can get on the park this year.

No no we're talking about two different blokes - I'm talking about the Astbury who has been one of the best preformed talls on the track this preseason, who has high endurance, is a strong mark, good footskills and is gaining size to out wrestle his opponent. You know the guy who wear Richo's old number.  :laugh:

Astbury is an ever improving player and like Rance did just needs composure. I think you will find as he matures he will become a very capable defender but I do agree with you on your last point - 'Let's hope Grimes can get on the park this year' because he already has that composure.

 :thumbsup

I've never heard nor seen this version of Astbury.
I'm not saying he might appear but there has been no reason to think that this might happen unless he's been re-built like Steve Austin.
I haven't seen his pre season training but there haven't been many glowing comments from posters or other players.
Until now.......
Slow, poor decision maker, poor foot skills.
I reckon his best year was his first as a forward.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: camboon on February 06, 2014, 08:35:26 PM
Was very good in his last 5 or so games last year
Before seeing him in those last five games  I thought he wasn't going to make it, now I think there is a chance
Reports from Training is that Jack and Astbury are pushing each other and in very good nick

Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: mightytiges on February 07, 2014, 12:21:39 AM
Astbury owned Gunston which is something no Freo defender can claim :nope.

Sad for Grimesy. He can't take a trick with his hammies  :-\.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: gerkin greg on February 07, 2014, 11:05:15 AM
should try some leg weights

should try weights.

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Post by: JVT on February 07, 2014, 11:18:57 AM
Astbury owned Gunston which is something no Freo defender can claim :nope.

Sad for Grimesy. He can't take a trick with his hammies  :-\.
We owned Hawthorn which is something Freo cannot claim either  :rollin
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 07, 2014, 12:51:51 PM
should try some leg weights

should try weights.
Great suggestion gerks.  I'm sure nobody has thought of that!

Should email the fitness department immediately with your suggestion!
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: tiga on February 07, 2014, 01:48:50 PM
I have a special delivery for a Mr D. Grimes??

(http://www.geekologie.com/2010/09/23/alien-power-loader.jpg)
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 07, 2014, 01:51:03 PM
(http://mimestudio.com/WebCHM/Bubble%20Photo.jpg)
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Post by: tiga on February 07, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
(http://mimestudio.com/WebCHM/Bubble%20Photo.jpg)
Mrak you can still throw a Hammy in a bubble.  :lol
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Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 07, 2014, 02:34:05 PM
(http://mimestudio.com/WebCHM/Bubble%20Photo.jpg)
Mrak you can still throw a Hammy in a bubble.  :lol

Not if you're sitting down
Title: Re: Uh oh, Dylan, here we go again.....
Post by: gerkin greg on February 07, 2014, 02:41:20 PM
should try some leg weights

should try weights.
Great suggestion gerks.  I'm sure nobody has thought of that!

Should email the fitness department immediately with your suggestion!

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