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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 04, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
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Yep it's that time again. Mike with his Top 50 preseason 2014 edition:
Only Cotch and Dusty are in it.
1. Gary Ablett (GC)
2. Joel Selwood (Geel)
3. Patrick Dangerfield (Adel)
4. Scott Pendlebery (Coll)
5. Nat Fyfe (Freo)
6. Dane Swan (Coll)
7. Travis Cloke (Coll)
8. Aaron Sandilands (Freo)
9. Ryan Griffen (WB)
10. Jarryd Roughead (Haw)
11. Josh Kennedy (Syd)
12. Harry Taylor (Geel)
13. Jobe Watson (Ess)
14. Jarrad McVeigh (Syd)
15. Kieren Jack (Syd)
16. Dayne Beams (Coll)
17. Lance Franklin (Syd)
18. Sam Mitchell (Haw)
19. David Mundy (Freo)
20. Luke Hodge (Haw)
21. Trent Cotchin (Rich)
22. Scott Thompson (North)
23. Steve Johnson (Geel)
24. Jeremy Cameron (GWS)
25. Steven Motlop (Geel)
26. Travis Boak (Port)
27. Nick Riewoldt (St K)
28. Josh Kennedy (WCE)
29. Chad Wingard (Port)
30. Matthew Pavlich (Freo)
31. Rory Sloane (Adel)
32. Josh Gibson (Haw)
33. Michael Johnson (Freo)
34. Matthew Leuenberger (Bris)
35. Tom Hawkins (Geel)
36. Brendon Goddard (Ess)
37. Dan Hannebery (Syd)
38. David Zaharakis (Ess)
39. Tom Liberatore (WB)
40. Steele Sidebottom (Coll)
41. Daniel Wells (North)
42. Marc Murphy (Carl)
43. Pearce Hanley (Bris)
44. Jack Ziebell (North)
45. Dustin Martin (Rich)
46. Lachie Henderson (Carl)
47. Grant Birchall (Haw)
48. Dyson Heppell (Ess)
49. Jack Darling (WCE)
50. Cyril Rioli (Haw)
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mikes-top-50-2014
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Saving Lids & Jack for your top ten, Mikey? Tom Hawkins :lol Played like a donkey last year
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Saving Lids & Jack for your top ten, Mikey? Tom Hawkins :lol Played like a donkey last year
And looks like he's be eating like horse during the off season as well ;D
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This annual thread is almost worse than the Politics one
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:sleep
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Top 10 already leaked (news.com.au and foxsports but have since been removed). Cloke was at like 7 :lol.
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Top 10 already leaked (news.com.au and foxsports but have since been removed). Cloke was at like 7 :lol.
Yesssssss :clapping
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Have to be:
(Not in order)
Ablett
Dangerfield
Cloke
Fyfe
Pendlebury
Swan
Selwood
cant think of the other 3 atm
Roughead
Griffen
Sandilands :lol
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Have to be:
(Not in order)
Ablett
Dangerfield
Cloke
Fyfe
Pendlebury
Swan
Selwood
cant think of the other 3 atm
Roughead
Ablett
Selwood
Dangerfield
Pendlebury
Fyfe
Swan
Cloke
Sandilands
Griffin
Roughead
...
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Sorry, got the quote in before you updated ;D
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Lids got swan beams penders covered
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The only things unbelievable about this are A) People still give a poo what Sheahan thinks and B) People ever gave a poo what Sheahan thinks.
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Mike's top 10:
1. Gary Ablett (GC)
2. Joel Selwood (Geel)
3. Patrick Dangerfield (Adel)
4. Scott Pendlebery (Coll)
5. Nat Fyfe (Freo)
6. Dane Swan (Coll)
7. Travis Cloke (Coll)
8. Aaron Sandilands (Freo)
9. Ryan Griffen (WB)
10. Jarryd Roughead (Haw)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mikes-top-50-2014/10-1
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Has Sandi touched the footy for 24 months?
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Also, Pies 3 of the top 7. Still an ordinary team. :shh
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
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I don't get it, is it meant to be a prediction for 2014 or is it a best players over the past 5 years??
Sandilands, N. Riewoldt, Swan, Pavlich, Hodge... :huh surprised he didn't squeeze Judd in there.
Motlop is out half the year isn't he??
Not saying these players are crap, but Cotchin will be twice as good as seagull Swan, and Sidebottom ahead of Martin ...
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnwltqhA7R1qzj7lm.png)
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Yeah, but if you take the goals away from jack, what have you got?
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Yeah, but if you take the goals away from jack, what have you got?
And, it's a prediction list, Jack is past it, his best behind him. N. Riewoldt and Pavlich are just coming into their prime.
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Well said, what a biased tosser he is
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Yeah, but if you take the goals away from jack, what have you got?
A Goal assist average of 1.18 ranking him 3rd highest in the league.....
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Yeah, but if you take the goals away from jack, what have you got?
A Goal assist average of 1.18 ranking him 3rd highest in the league.....
Yeh but if you take that away what else have you got? :whistle :lol
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This makes me angry every year. Not sure why I look at it because I know what's coming :banghead
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172i
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Now do one for delesjo for meters gained / effective kicks / or something
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Yeah, but if you take the goals away from jack, what have you got?
A Goal assist average of 1.18 ranking him 3rd highest in the league.....
Yeh but if you take that away what else have you got? :whistle :lol
Very quick tigs! :lol ;D :clapping
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172i
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Now do one for delesjo for meters gained / effective kicks / or something
Is this what you mean???
Judge has an average of 1.2 relevant relies a day, ranked 5th in the forum. :whistle :P
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Number of goals kicked in the past four seasons
Buddy Franklin (17th on mikes list) 273
Jack Riewoldt ( not good enough for mikes list) 263
Travis Cloke ( 7th on mikes list) 234
Jarryd Roughhead ( 10th on mikes list) 182
Josh Kennedy ( 28th on mikes list) 178
Matthew Pavlich (30th on mikes list) 176
Nick Riewoldt (27th on mikes list) 172
Tom Hawkins (35th on mikes list) 159
Jack Darling ( 49th on mikes list) 119
You look stupid Mike.
Well said, what a biased tosser he is
In fairness to the geezer, it's not based on the last 4 years. It's based on what the geezer thinks he saw in 2013. And he must have been really impressed with Sandilands last year...
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In the past, Sheahan has said the preseason one is based on who he thinks will come to the fore during the upcoming season. So it's usually a mixture of the usual names he adores who he believes will remain at the top of their game and younger names he's predicting/guessing will step up another level again after good years last year. Mike also often likes to reflect his team predictions as well with the number of reps per club. Obviously he's back on the North and Essendon bandwagon again :sleep.
Here's the reps per club in his list btw:
Haw 6
Syd 5
Coll 5
Freo 5
Geel 5
Ess 4
NM 3
Bris 2
Carl 2
Port 2
Adel 2
Rich 2
WB 2
WCE 2
GC 1
GWS 1
St K 1
Melb 0
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He's gone out on a limb with his Rising Stars. ::)
Mike's Rising Stars
Jaeger O'Meara - Gold Coast Suns
Brad Crouch - Adelaide Crows
Ollie Wines - Port Adelaide Power
Tom Mitchell - Sydney Swans
Jack Viney - Melbourne Demons
Joe Daniher - Essendon Bombers
Lachie Whitfield - GWS Giants
Nick Vlastuin - Richmond Tigers
Brodie Grundy - Collingwood Magpies
Sam Mayes - Brisbane Lions
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Obviously he's back on the North and Essendon bandwagon again :sleep.
Ess 4
Yep , what a joke ! Essendon have 1 player in the top 100. Jab Watson. That's it
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What a bloody joke, Martin is about 30 spots too high, I stopped reading after seeing Scott Thompson as 12 th best player in the comp, yea right, pull the other one it plays jingle bells :lol
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Lids has consistently performed at a high level and averaged mid-20 disposals for the past 6 years but doesn't get a gig yet Ziebell reaches just 21 disposals for the first time in his career (hardly elite stats for a mid) and in a non-finalist side and Mike puts him in :huh.
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why do people continually give this geezer airtime? Hes got nfi, every year its the same poo yet there is discussion about it so he gets his buzz - and here I am contributing to a thread that's got his name attached to it :banghead
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How do you numpties look into that senile pricks befuddled eyes, then read his deluded scribblings and expect to see anything else but the rantings of a halfwit or a school boy?
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This annual safari to the land of delusion is best left ignored.
If it were a television program, it would be Couch Time.
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How do you numpties look into that senile pricks befuddled eyes, then read his deluded scribblings and expect to see anything else but the rantings of a halfwit or a school boy?
Indeed
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why do people continually give this geezer airtime? Hes got nfi, every year its the same poo yet there is discussion about it so he gets his buzz - and here I am contributing to a thread that's got his name attached to it :banghead
Guilty.
Delete this thread please, Willy One Eye!! -)
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Mike discusses omitting Jack Riewoldt from his Top 50:
VIDEO: (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-riewoldt-urged-to-give-up-media-ban-before-it-derails-richmonds-season/story-stuff-riewoldt-urged-to-give-up-media-ban-before-it-derails-richmonds-season/story-fndv8t7m-1226847390281#ooid=QyY2YwbDqt8IPqe34R-QnbTmyhwO2kKy[/url)
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Michelangelo Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser reveals his 50 top AFL players for 2014:
http://www.news.com.au/sport/michelangelo-rucci-reveals-his-50-top-afl-players-for-2014/story-fnaqgujp-1226847791806
He has Cotch at 22, Lids at 36 and Rance at 38. No Jack or Dusty.
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Claws reaction to Rance at 38 should be funny.
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Not surprisingly Rucci's list is heavily SA biassed.
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Michelangelo Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser reveals his 50 top AFL players for 2014:
http://www.news.com.au/sport/michelangelo-rucci-reveals-his-50-top-afl-players-for-2014/story-fnaqgujp-1226847791806
He has Cotch at 22, Lids at 36 and Rance at 38. No Jack or Dusty.
That's closer to reality than Sheehan's for starters.
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Claws reaction to Rance at 38 should be funny.
If claw got a free pick in wonder what player he'd replace alecrance with in afl
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Billy Longer
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Billy two kicks
Is not a chb/fb ala tross
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Good contribution
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Good contribution
Did you just spell something correctly? Outrageous.
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Michelangelo Rucci from the Adelaide Advertiser reveals his 50 top AFL players for 2014:
http://www.news.com.au/sport/michelangelo-rucci-reveals-his-50-top-afl-players-for-2014/story-fnaqgujp-1226847791806
He has Cotch at 22, Lids at 36 and Rance at 38. No Jack or Dusty.
AlexTrossRance #1 afl key defender...
By jingos
Don't tell clawski
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The players have come up with their own top 50. Only 41-50 have been revealed so far. By the silhouettes, it looks like Cotch is #37.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl/news/features/players-top-50
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The players have come up with their own top 50. Only 41-50 have been revealed so far. By the silhouettes, it looks like Cotch is #37.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl/news/features/players-top-50
Heard #9 will be Vickery.
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4 Ricky
2 shaun
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Lids is in the top 30 according to his AFL footballing peers.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl/news/features/players-top-50.workstation
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Either Cotch is in the top 10 according his peers or he misses out on their top 50.
http://www.afl.com.au/afl/news/features/players-top-50.workstation
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lots of bitching going on here.
based on the same criteria that sheehan did his list on does anyone whos complaining have the balls to put up a list and maybe just cop a bit of criticism. anyone???
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Cotch chosen as the 9th best player in the AFL by his peers :clapping.
9. Trent Cotchin
Richmond
Midfielder
Official AFL Player Rating: 33
Debut: 2008
Games: 110
One of the game’s leading midfielders, Cotchin was below his best for parts of 2013, but built form leading into September and was outstanding in the club’s first final since 2001, finishing with 26 possessions and two goals. He missed just one game (knee injury) and led the club in kicks (365), disposals (571), clearances (118) and contested possessions (259).
Strengths
Is a contested-ball specialist, evades tacklers, balanced, clever and consistent.
Weaknesses
Not as efficient with the ball as he could be.
What the players said
"To be able to go down forward and be dangerous down there too is what sets him apart." - Travis Boak
"He's a player that young footballers should aspire to be like because he's so good on both sides of his body, he's very balanced, very clean and can also go forward and kick goals." - Lenny Hayes
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-01/players-top-50-no9
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Michelangelo Rucci rates aRance as best kpp defender in afl? Gee-whiz
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Michelangelo Rucci rates aRance as best kpp defender in afl? Gee-whiz
For me the best KPP is Harry Taylor. I watch a few GFC games because the gf and her family go for the cats and they never poo themselves when the ball ends up in the back half when Harry is there. I can't say the same when the ball enters our D50. There's something about Taylor's composure and pretty decent kicking I wish we had in Chaplin and/or Rance. That being said post sorting out the stalker issues last year he has been very servicable to the club.
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agree lamington, Taylor, McPharlin I rate as the best KPD's in the game. Thompson and Henderson are quality too. I rate Mackenzie from wce as an up and comer too. Rance is very good but not better than those guys imo
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Rance isn't even the best defender at Richmond.
Cotch chosen as the 9th best player in the AFL by his peers :clapping.
9. Trent Cotchin
Richmond
Midfielder
Official AFL Player Rating: 33
Debut: 2008
Games: 110
One of the game’s leading midfielders, Cotchin was below his best for parts of 2013, but built form leading into September and was outstanding in the club’s first final since 2001, finishing with 26 possessions and two goals. He missed just one game (knee injury) and led the club in kicks (365), disposals (571), clearances (118) and contested possessions (259).
Strengths
Is a contested-ball specialist, evades tacklers, balanced, clever and consistent.
Weaknesses
Not as efficient with the ball as he could be.
What the players said
"To be able to go down forward and be dangerous down there too is what sets him apart." - Travis Boak
"He's a player that young footballers should aspire to be like because he's so good on both sides of his body, he's very balanced, very clean and can also go forward and kick goals." - Lenny Hayes
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-01/players-top-50-no9
Yeah but apparently people make too many excuses for him....
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MacKenzie is nae better than rance
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It would appear a great deal of the media underrate Cotch. Not the guys he plays against though.
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agree lamington, Taylor, McPharlin I rate as the best KPD's in the game. Thompson and Henderson are quality too. I rate Mackenzie from wce as an up and comer too. Rance is very good but not better than those guys imo
Pretty spot on I reckon Tony.
Taylor and Henderson r good but Taylor gets goals kicked on him coz he's so attacking and Henderson doesn't know whether he's Arthur or Martha coz of the way Carlton use him. McPharlin is really solid but my picks would be Scott Thompson and Josh Gibson. They defend brilliantly and attack well when they can.
Rance is getting up there with those blokes. Needs another solid year.