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Title: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 09, 2014, 05:01:57 AM
Herald Sun football expert Jon Ralph rates every AFL coach in season 2014 from 1 to 18

    Jon Ralph
    Herald Sun
    March 08, 2014 7:00PM


JON RALPH rates this season’s AFL’s senior coaches from one to 18.

1. Alastair Clarkson (Hawthorn)

2. Ross Lyon (Fremantle)

3. Mark Thompson (Essendon)

4. Mick Malthouse (Carlton)

5. Paul Roos (Melbourne)

6. Chris Scott (Geelong)

7. John Longmire (Sydney)

8. Ken Hinkley (Port Adelaide)

9. Brendan McCartney (Western Bulldogs)

10. Brenton Sanderson (Adelaide)

11. Damien Hardwick (Richmond)
WIN-LOSS: 44 per cent. 39 wins, 48 losses, two draws, one final.
HIS win-loss record is the second-worst of the non-expansion coaches and he hasn’t won a final. But consider where Richmond has come from under Hardwick. From basket case to future contender, the transformation is immense. When Richmond was 33 points up against Carlton, he was a coaching genius. There is unfinished business for Hardwick, who is following a similar progression to his mentor Clarkson.
Contracted until end of 2016.

12. Brad Scott (North Melbourne)

13. Nathan Buckley (Collingwood)

14. Guy McKenna (Gold Coast)

15. Leon Cameron (GWS Giants)

16. Alan Richardson (St Kilda)

17. Adam Simpson (West Coast)

18. Justin Leppitsch (Brisbane Lions)

Full article at: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/herald-sun-football-expert-jon-ralph-rates-every-afl-coach-in-season-2014-from-1-to-18/story-fni5f22o-1226848988483
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 08:53:58 AM
I thought it was a reasonable summation.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 09, 2014, 09:01:15 AM
Take the newbies out and he is the 4th worst coach in the AFL. Mick Malthouse 5th? Based on what.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 09:14:43 AM
Take the newbies out and he is the 4th worst coach in the AFL. Mick Malthouse 5th? Based on what.
Based on the fact that the man has won flags and his sides more often or not make the finals?
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 09, 2014, 09:20:03 AM
Take the newbies out and he is the 4th worst coach in the AFL. Mick Malthouse 5th? Based on what.
Based on the fact that the man has won flags and his sides more often or not make the finals?
By default?  :lol

What about Roos? Maybe we could dig up Jock McHale so we could have no.1  :shh
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Oiafi on March 09, 2014, 09:26:39 AM
The desire to rank things in some sort of order, though possibly entertaining, is in the end a fools errand. So many variables and differences in circumstance that make any comparison nonsensical.

If you end up with what you need at the time you need it then you are in a good position. How it compares to anything else is immaterial.

You might obtain something that is highly ranked but find it is totally unsuited to your need and actually damaging to your cause, where something lesser is more constructive.

We've been there before.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Darth Tiger on March 09, 2014, 10:55:55 AM
That's OK as I rate Jon Ralph as the 11th best journo at the HS.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Willy on March 09, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 09, 2014, 10:58:08 AM
lucky to be that high dimma
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 11:00:36 AM
Happy he is above Bucks! ;D
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 09, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
Take the newbies out and he is the 4th worst coach in the AFL. Mick Malthouse 5th? Based on what.
Based on the fact that the man has won flags and his sides more often or not make the finals?
By default?  :lol

What about Roos? Maybe we could dig up Jock McHale so we could have no.1  :shh

This. Pagan was the messiah until he joined the Blues. Micks first year was ordinary - Jonny Ralph clearly doesn't want to feel the wrath of super sensitive Mick in press conferences this year.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on March 09, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
I thought it was a reasonable summation.
Really, so how's McCartney rated higher, on what basis, haircuts or something, it's a lot of hot air  :lol
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: wayne on March 09, 2014, 07:20:32 PM
McCartney lol. Why? The dogs won a few junk time games late last year?
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
I thought it was a reasonable summation.
Really, so how's McCartney rated higher, on what basis, haircuts or something, it's a lot of hot air  :lol
Yeah, prefer Brendan's hairdo!!! :lol
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 09, 2014, 08:21:20 PM
Take the newbies out and he is the 4th worst coach in the AFL. Mick Malthouse 5th? Based on what.

Statistics.

Hard to argue with facts.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Owl on March 10, 2014, 08:03:44 PM
Yeah we want a hack sport scribe like Raaaalph to analyse the statistical data and psychological profiles to index their capabilities for us.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on March 10, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
8-11 all could shuffle anyway and be ok, I wouldn't have Hardwick any higher because he is ordinary on match days.

Not bad, just ordinary.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: Owl on March 10, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
Roos won't have his extra one million to spend on the salary cap down here so he will have to make do like the rest of the peasants, see how much of a genius he is without his special poaching allowance
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 10, 2014, 09:07:31 PM
Roos just got out coached by Cameron Bruce
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on March 10, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
Roos won't have his extra one million to spend on the salary cap down here so he will have to make do like the rest of the peasants, see how much of a genius he is without his special poaching allowance

I'm happy to see roos die in the arse but I just think he's got Damien covered.
Title: Re: Jon Ralph rates Hardwick as only the 11th best coach in the AFL (H-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on March 10, 2014, 09:33:09 PM
I don't normally pay much attention to subjective BS like this, but how on earth could he have BMac ahead of Dimma? Don't get me wrong I think he's got the makings of a very good coach and may end up better, but to date what has he done at the doggies? He's rebuilding them and they've done sweet fa yet.