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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 15, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
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No surprise that the same names will appear in this list :P.
Fire away ...
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What's the point
Those that should go won't, those shouldn't probably will
I could list 8 perhaps even 10 I'd send to the VFL but it won't happen
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True that WP! ^^ that's the most disappointing thing of all
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People may not like Az but he kicked 6 today and always leads up hard at the footy. But the man who is apparently the best KPP of his draft will not make way for him ;D
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People may not like Az but he kicked 6 today and always leads up hard at the footy. But the man who is apparently the best KPP of his draft will not make way for him ;D
I'd take anything ahead of Vickery.
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People may not like Az but he kicked 6 today and always leads up hard at the footy. But the man who is apparently the best KPP of his draft will not make way for him ;D
I'd take anything ahead of Vickery.
That's what she said :shh
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People may not like Az but he kicked 6 today and always leads up hard at the footy. But the man who is apparently the best KPP of his draft will not make way for him ;D
I'd take anything ahead of Vickery.
Id take a wooden martial arts doll. Wheel the son of a bitch onto the ground
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Out - Vickery
In - McBean or Elton or Edwards or Stephenson or stuffing anybody but stuffing Vickery.
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We need king grimes and jacko asap. Not to mention Maric
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out vickery pettard grigg and all the other bludgers in the team
in - anybody who wants to have a fair dinkum crack
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Out - Pettard, Foley, Grigg
In - A. Edwards, Arnot, Jackson
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Griff out. You all know it will happen. ;D
In: Big O. Hard wick is trolling us all.
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Griff out. You all know it will happen. ;D
In: Big O. Hard wick is trolling us all.
you didnt like griff tonight?
Thought he played well and why Vickery was left on and griff not was odd.
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Griff out. You all know it will happen. ;D
In: Big O. Hard wick is trolling us all.
you didnt like griff tonight?
Thought he played well and why Vickery was left on and griff not was odd.
griff was excellent. But he will likely get dropped. Vickery will play again. :banghead
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Hardwick treats the players like cats
They all have 9 lives
Only change that will be is A.Edwards in .Petterd out
If Hampson has done his groin.Big O in
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Griff out. You all know it will happen. ;D
In: Big O. Hard wick is trolling us all.
you didnt like griff tonight?
Thought he played well and why Vickery was left on and griff not was odd.
griff was excellent. But he will likely get dropped. Vickery will play again. :banghead
Got it and spot on
I just couldn't understand the logic of Griff getting subbed out and not Vickery
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Vickery washes Hardwicks car each week .end of story
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I said there were at least 8 I'd drop and here they are
1. Vickery - shameful performance, gave a 10 minute cameo and that was it. He needs 6 weeks minimum in the VFL to get the message = no more gifts
2. Grigg - 30 possessions that meant squat. Flaps his arms coralling opponents more than the umps do saying play on. He won't tackle, chase or attack a contest so just go
3. Newman- tough call. Yeah probably but was unsighted last night and as a senior player needed to stand up when it mattered. Didn't
4. Ellis - flashed in for part of the 3rd and that was about it
5. Petterd - was shocking. Not that I had any idea what his role was, don't think he did either
6. Chaplin - new member of the leadership group who showed no leadership what so ever.
7. Foley - he isn't a sub. Either play from the start and sub him OUT but not IN or don't play him. Just didn't look fit to me and he looked slow
8. Toss of the coin between Houli who seemed disinterested or Morris who continues to fall over. So I am suggesting for Steve rather than playing VFL he goes shopping for some new boots and he can pick up a pair for Rance while he is at it
INS:
A Edwards (who understands the concept of lead up forward), Arnot, Lloyd, King, big O (who despite his limitation will actually compete for the team), Grimes, Knights, Jackson (if fit)
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WGAF, really, we won't beat the Blues if we dish that poo up again, doesn't matter who we have in the side.
We'd should of played Foley from the start, Arnott, King, Knights, Big O, stuff it.
Send some of these hero's back to the two's, they are full of there own self importance still.
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Jack for Edwards. Vickery for Edwards, but I'd rather Jack. He's sooking about external issues STILL and he needs to go back to the seconds to start enjoying footy again. And so we can start enjoying footy again more is the point trying to accept having this big fat lazy overrated sooking little girl in our side who we rely on so much but delivers stuff all but petulance. Go Tiges
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We had our best forward playing in the seconds kicking 6 goals.
LMAO@the incompetence :rollin
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I'm in general agreement with your hit list, WP. Morris did a shoulder early in the game and could only tackle with one arm and bump one-sided. You are right though, he just beat Rance in the falling over sweep-stakes. I don't know what role Chaplin was playing, other than to get where they ball wasn't. Houli took a bit of a hit in the first quarter and zoned out after that.
TV was dreadful. I was stunned when they subbed Griff. It must have been a pre-arranged plan that took no notice of how Griff/TV/Jack were performing on the night. Of the tall forwards, Griff was the best by a long way.
Our half forwards did next to nothing - Newy, Petterd, Ellis, Foley were smashed by the Suns going both ways. Conca looked way short of a gallop. I cannot recall a single run-down tackle from any of our second-tier mids.
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I'm in general agreement with your hit list, WP. Morris did a shoulder early in the game and could only tackle with one arm and bump one-sided. You are right though, he just beat Rance in the falling over sweep-stakes. I don't know what role Chaplin was playing, other than to get where they ball wasn't. Houli took a bit of a hit in the first quarter and zoned out after that.
TV was dreadful. I was stunned when they subbed Griff. It must have been a pre-arranged plan that took no notice of how Griff/TV/Jack were performing on the night. Of the tall forwards, Griff was the best by a long way.
Our half forwards did next to nothing - Newy, Petterd, Ellis, Foley were smashed by the Suns going both ways. Conca looked way short of a gallop. I cannot recall a single run-down tackle from any of our second-tier mids.
There was one - Thomas chasing down Ablett - of course he may not be classified as a second tier mid..... :(
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WGAF, really, we won't beat the Blues if we dish that poo up again, doesn't matter who we have in the side.
We'd should of played Foley from the start, Arnott, King, Knights, Big O, stuff it.
Send some of these hero's back to the two's, they are full of there own self importance still.
Wtf you said King was underdone and shouldn't be played
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I said there were at least 8 I'd drop and here they are
1. Vickery - shameful performance, gave a 10 minute cameo and that was it. He needs 6 weeks minimum in the VFL to get the message = no more gifts
2. Grigg - 30 possessions that meant squat. Flaps his arms coralling opponents more than the umps do saying play on. He won't tackle, chase or attack a contest so just go
3. Newman- tough call. Yeah probably but was unsighted last night and as a senior player needed to stand up when it mattered. Didn't
4. Ellis - flashed in for part of the 3rd and that was about it
5. Petterd - was shocking. Not that I had any idea what his role was, don't think he did either
6. Chaplin - new member of the leadership group who showed no leadership what so ever.
7. Foley - he isn't a sub. Either play from the start and sub him OUT but not IN or don't play him. Just didn't look fit to me and he looked slow
8. Toss of the coin between Houli who seemed disinterested or Morris who continues to fall over. So I am suggesting for Steve rather than playing VFL he goes shopping for some new boots and he can pick up a pair for Rance while he is at it
INS:
A Edwards (who understands the concept of lead up forward), Arnot, Lloyd, King, big O (who despite his limitation will actually compete for the team), Grimes, Knights, Jackson (if fit)
Agree with all of this except Chaplin and Ellis need to stay and lift for next week. Petterd.. what a joke
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B: Morris Rance Grimes
HB: Vlastiun Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Deledio Conca
HF: Martin Griffiths Edwards
F: A.Edwards Riewoldt King
Foll: Hampson, Cotchin, Thomas
Int: Knights, Arnot, Jackson Sub:Lloyd
If Jackson isn't fit I'd play Miles.
Get fair dinkum please.
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In McGuane
Out Vickery
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I said there were at least 8 I'd drop and here they are
1. Vickery - shameful performance, gave a 10 minute cameo and that was it. He needs 6 weeks minimum in the VFL to get the message = no more gifts
2. Grigg - 30 possessions that meant squat. Flaps his arms coralling opponents more than the umps do saying play on. He won't tackle, chase or attack a contest so just go
3. Newman- tough call. Yeah probably but was unsighted last night and as a senior player needed to stand up when it mattered. Didn't
4. Ellis - flashed in for part of the 3rd and that was about it
5. Petterd - was shocking. Not that I had any idea what his role was, don't think he did either
6. Chaplin - new member of the leadership group who showed no leadership what so ever.
7. Foley - he isn't a sub. Either play from the start and sub him OUT but not IN or don't play him. Just didn't look fit to me and he looked slow
8. Toss of the coin between Houli who seemed disinterested or Morris who continues to fall over. So I am suggesting for Steve rather than playing VFL he goes shopping for some new boots and he can pick up a pair for Rance while he is at it
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A Edwards (who understands the concept of lead up forward), Arnot, Lloyd, King, big O (who despite his limitation will actually compete for the team), Grimes, Knights, Jackson (if fit)
Harsh on Ellis and Chaplin, first bad games for a while IMO.
Others, agree, especially Shaun Grigg. Previously thought he was good for the side with his gut running and ability to find space, but by God, his lack of wanting to contest and tackle and basically do anything of a defensive nature is a joke. MUST be dropped until he learns how to defend and put the body on the line
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Out: Everyone except for Thomas and Vlastuin
In: Any bastard that can kick the ball instead of hand balling the bloody thing and any bludger that can take a grab and move the frickin thing on fast.
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WGAF, really, we won't beat the Blues if we dish that poo up again, doesn't matter who we have in the side.
We'd should of played Foley from the start, Arnott, King, Knights, Big O, stuff it.
Send some of these hero's back to the two's, they are full of there own self importance still.
Wtf you said King was underdone and shouldn't be played
No I didn't, the club did, after his hit out this weekend he should be right anyway, with Grimes.
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In (Out)
Jackson (Grigg)
A.Edwards (Vickery)
Grimes (Petterd)
Knights (Ellis)
Lloyd (Newman)
Chances of this happening? 0% ...
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Out....players who think they are rock stars because we made the finals once in 13 years.
In ....players who give their all like the new boy from Port.
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I said there were at least 8 I'd drop and here they are
1. Vickery - shameful performance, gave a 10 minute cameo and that was it. He needs 6 weeks minimum in the VFL to get the message = no more gifts
2. Grigg - 30 possessions that meant squat. Flaps his arms coralling opponents more than the umps do saying play on. He won't tackle, chase or attack a contest so just go
3. Newman- tough call. Yeah probably but was unsighted last night and as a senior player needed to stand up when it mattered. Didn't
4. Ellis - flashed in for part of the 3rd and that was about it
5. Petterd - was shocking. Not that I had any idea what his role was, don't think he did either
6. Chaplin - new member of the leadership group who showed no leadership what so ever.
7. Foley - he isn't a sub. Either play from the start and sub him OUT but not IN or don't play him. Just didn't look fit to me and he looked slow
8. Toss of the coin between Houli who seemed disinterested or Morris who continues to fall over. So I am suggesting for Steve rather than playing VFL he goes shopping for some new boots and he can pick up a pair for Rance while he is at it
INS:
A Edwards (who understands the concept of lead up forward), Arnot, Lloyd, King, big O (who despite his limitation will actually compete for the team), Grimes, Knights, Jackson (if fit)
What did we all make of houlis game?
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Vickery was awful but I wouldntndrop he for Orren. I would like to see jack/Vickery/Griffiths trio persisted with until Maric is fit.
Grigg is average. I think the opposition like him having the ball...defensively inadequate .
With so many non KPP forwards coming to the club, surely Newman is not undroppable
Ellis should be retained purely as a high draft pick who we require to make it.
Normal Ricky game. Average.
Chaplin. Slow. Would kill for grimes. Behnd Astbury now IMO.
Rough to judge foley on a quarter.
Houli. Worrying. Morris. Worrying.
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Houli and Morris were fine and far from the problem.
King in for Newman
Vickery out for Azza
Petterd out for Jackson or Knights depending on fitness
Grigg out for Arnot
Give Foley another chance
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Houli was sliding around in some sort of Alex Rance tribute act.
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The Rance Rollerskate & The Houli Hoop....
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Houli was sliding around in some sort of Alex Rance tribute act.
:lol
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Houli was sliding around in some sort of Alex Rance tribute act.
:clapping :clapping
:lol
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I think Dimma made a serious error in judgement playing Griffiths, Vickery and Jack in the smaller confines of Metrocon Stadium in humid conditions. I understand he is trying to get them used to structuring up together for the larger grounds but Vickery or Jack should have been omitted for Lloyd or A.Edwards. Dimma dropped the ball here imo
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I think Dimma made a serious error in judgement playing Griffiths, Vickery and Jack in the smaller confines of Metrocon Stadium in humid conditions. I understand he is trying to get them used to structuring up together for the larger grounds but Vickery or Jack should have been omitted for Lloyd or A.Edwards. Dimma dropped the ball here imo
When's the last time Dimma dropped Vickery?
I think Noah was rounding up a few animals at the time.....
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I think Dimma made a serious error in judgement playing Griffiths, Vickery and Jack in the smaller confines of Metrocon Stadium in humid conditions. I understand he is trying to get them used to structuring up together for the larger grounds but Vickery or Jack should have been omitted for Lloyd or A.Edwards. Dimma dropped the ball here imo
When's the last time Dimma dropped Vickery?
I think Noah was rounding up a few animals at the time.....
Really.
Thought it was closer to when the apple fell from the tree...
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I think Dimma made a serious error in judgement playing Griffiths, Vickery and Jack in the smaller confines of Metrocon Stadium in humid conditions. I understand he is trying to get them used to structuring up together for the larger grounds but Vickery or Jack should have been omitted for Lloyd or A.Edwards. Dimma dropped the ball here imo
When's the last time Dimma dropped Vickery?
I think Noah was rounding up a few animals at the time.....
Really.
Thought it was closer to when the apple fell from the tree...
Nah. Googled it. Both wrong. Apparently God was having a rest on that particular day....
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I think Dimma made a serious error in judgement playing Griffiths, Vickery and Jack in the smaller confines of Metrocon Stadium in humid conditions. I understand he is trying to get them used to structuring up together for the larger grounds but Vickery or Jack should have been omitted for Lloyd or A.Edwards. Dimma dropped the ball here imo
When's the last time Dimma dropped Vickery?
I think Noah was rounding up a few animals at the time.....
Really.
Thought it was closer to when the apple fell from the tree...
Nah. Googled it. Both wrong. Apparently God was having a rest on that particular day....
:clapping :clapping :thumbsup :bow
:lol
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
Quite the oddity considering everyone supposedly had to warn their spot....
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
Quite the oddity considering everyone supposedly had to warn their spot....
Been a bug bear of one for years, favourites of a coach don't have to earn their spots
Vickery, Grigg, Ellis, Houli to name 4 are clearly Dimma favourites. Throw in Newman too
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To put salt on the wound, he also has his whipping boys.
They get dropped with one bad game.......
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I think Dimma made a serious error in judgement playing Griffiths, Vickery and Jack in the smaller confines of Metrocon Stadium in humid conditions. I understand he is trying to get them used to structuring up together for the larger grounds but Vickery or Jack should have been omitted for Lloyd or A.Edwards. Dimma dropped the ball here imo
Couldn't agree more Stripes.
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
Quite the oddity considering everyone supposedly had to warn their spot....
Been a bug bear of one for years, favourites of a coach don't have to earn their spots
Vickery, Grigg, Ellis, Houli to name 4 are clearly Dimma favourites. Throw in Newman too
Houli has been pretty consistent. Ellis was the sub for a month or 2 last year and earnt his spot in the side.
Grigg and Vickery been very very lucky for a long time.
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Houli was sliding around in some sort of Alex Rance tribute act.
:lol
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About ready to watch the Port, Carlscum game now....
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If we dish that crap up again like last night against the scum they will bury us in the first 15 minutes.
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
Quite the oddity considering everyone supposedly had to warn their spot....
Been a bug bear of one for years, favourites of a coach don't have to earn their spots
Vickery, Grigg, Ellis, Houli to name 4 are clearly Dimma favourites. Throw in Newman too
Edwards, Jackson before last year...
If we dish that crap up again like last night against the scum they will bury us in the first 15 minutes.
...and then some...
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
Quite the oddity considering everyone supposedly had to warn their spot....
Been a bug bear of one for years, favourites of a coach don't have to earn their spots
Vickery, Grigg, Ellis, Houli to name 4 are clearly Dimma favourites. Throw in Newman too
Jackson before last year....S. Edwards....
If we dish that crap up again like last night against the scum they will bury us in the first 15 minutes.
...and then some...
Yeah, they are playing really well, their pressure is unreal. We need some mongrel about us".we just don't have it. :-\
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Is it fair to say he's never been dropped ?
Only when injured Ox
Quite the oddity considering everyone supposedly had to warn their spot....
Been a bug bear of one for years, favourites of a coach don't have to earn their spots
Vickery, Grigg, Ellis, Houli to name 4 are clearly Dimma favourites. Throw in Newman too
Pettard
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for all those who want vickery out atm. there is no other option. thats the scary thing imo. i look at the list and i only see elton and im asking is he ready.
list management hey you could see this sort of scenario coming a mile off.
i dont care what anybody thinks but you have to play two real good sized kpfs. you then need athird tall weather that be a ruckman forward, or a pinch hitting forward ruck. we have good tall structure up forward. the club have it right in this regards.the question is are those talls good enough. we went and got hampson to allow vickery to stay at home so we could maintain good structure thru games. the concept or idea is correct.
fail to keep good structure and all that will happen is what talls we do play are up against two or three tall opponents all the time.
we are a middling team along with 10 other middling teams while appalled at the way we played and performed this week in some ways it is to be expected. we cant throw the structural baby out with the bath water.
if we drop vickery the option is to play griffiths permanently forward with riewoldt hampson as the ruck/for and bring in the big o to start in the ruck.
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Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
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We need to stop stuffing around with Riewoldt, put him at FF and stuffing leave him there!
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Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
Watch the Blues game now on, the two later mentioned are not there, the Blues backs would kill them!
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Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
Watch the Blues game now on, the two later mentioned are not there, the Blues backs would kill them!
(http://i.imgur.com/rWu0kFq.jpg)
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:lol
The Blues are going to flog the pis s out of us if we don't get our poo together in two weeks...
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It's gunna be a slaughter.... Blues by 15 goals
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It's gunna be a slaughter.... Blues by 15 goals
Probably!
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Waite will kill Astbury!
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Wait will kill Astbury!
I'm calling homicide!
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Wait will kill Astbury!
I'm calling homicide!
:lol
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Walker just reported for rough conduct?
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If he hasn't he should be, forearm to the head , late tackle,
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Let's hope they don't bring that poo in their last quarter next week....
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Carlton supporters already bagging me up on the Gold Coast, season defining really
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Trout saying Vickery could miss 4 weeks???
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must have a good heart surgeon
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Trout saying Vickery could miss 4 weeks???
Yeah saw that, said whispers were vickery 4 weeks, cotch calf and hampson groin.
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Trout saying Vickery could miss 4 weeks???
Dissapointing. Hoping it was the season
#justeffhimorf
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Trout saying Vickery could miss 4 weeks???
Was that from broken ribs when the ball bounced off his chest?
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If Vickery is lame then he should be put down.
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If Vickery is lame then he should be put down.
:lol
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Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
are you seriously expecting the bean pole that mcbean is to hold down a kp.
maric is a ruckman and is not in contention for vickerys spot.
elton is the only viable/realistic kpf in the wings and like mcbean common sense would be to ask if hes ready for the role. not imo. but hey ready or not perhaps hed give more than vickery has.
effectively there is no viable replacement for vickery unless, we play griffiths in the role, play hampson as a ruck/for and bring in orren as the starting ruckman.
atm unless players jump out of their skins with improvement the cupboard is bare. i say again we have numbers but we just dont have the quality or development within those numbers.
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Out:
Vickery (if injured)
Hampson (if injured)
Cotchin (if injured)
Petterd
Grigg
In:
Elton
Stephenson
Jackson (if available)
Arnot
Knights
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Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
are you seriously expecting the bean pole that mcbean is to hold down a kp.
maric is a ruckman and is not in contention for vickerys spot.
elton is the only viable/realistic kpf in the wings and like mcbean common sense would be to ask if hes ready for the role. not imo. but hey ready or not perhaps hed give more than vickery has.
effectively there is no viable replacement for vickery unless, we play griffiths in the role, play hampson as a ruck/for and bring in orren as the starting ruckman.
atm unless players jump out of their skins with improvement the cupboard is bare. i say again we have numbers but we just dont have the quality or development within those numbers.
When Maric fit - could play Ivan fwd - beaner 4th tall
Or play jack + griff only two kPp. And a 200cm flanker
Elton would non worse tyrone last dig
If Hampson is going to be in the 21 - Maric must play forward a lot
Sadly it is unrealistic to expect a 25 year old, 200cm, former top ten draft pick kPp to just be waiting in the twos for jack or Tyrone to have a bad game
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lets hope there not correct with the injuries... To some degree I thought hampson started to get on top in that last qrt and was hitting to our advantage I think he may be ok....
if we were to make changes id be starting foley on the ground next week we need some pace as clearly it was shown we lacked it on the weekend....
knights in not sure we get pace from him??? I have a feeling he may bring king in as much as I feel he may struggle this year we certainly lacked some crummers in the forward line on the weekend...
its just a pitty miles wasn't upgraded he would have been handy I reckon...
PAttard may struggle he was very slow.
Walker looks to except the one week which is good for us....
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Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
are you seriously expecting the bean pole that mcbean is to hold down a kp.
maric is a ruckman and is not in contention for vickerys spot.
elton is the only viable/realistic kpf in the wings and like mcbean common sense would be to ask if hes ready for the role. not imo. but hey ready or not perhaps hed give more than vickery has.
effectively there is no viable replacement for vickery unless, we play griffiths in the role, play hampson as a ruck/for and bring in orren as the starting ruckman.
atm unless players jump out of their skins with improvement the cupboard is bare. i say again we have numbers but we just dont have the quality or development within those numbers.
1/ When Maric fit - could play Ivan fwd - beaner 4th tall. when ivans fit he is by a country mile the best ruckman we have. he will play predominately in the ruck and rightly so wit
2/ Or play jack + griff only two kPp. And a 200cm flanker
3/ Elton would non worse tyrone last dig
4/ If Hampson is going to be in the 21 - Maric must play forward a lot
5/ Sadly it is unrealistic to expect a 25 year old, 200cm, former top ten draft pick kPp to just be waiting in the twos for jack or Tyrone to have a bad game
1/ when ivan is fit he will play ruck. no if or buts about it. when fit hes a country mile in front of any other ruckman we have.
2/ so you play griff and jack as permanent kpfs and mcbean as a flanker which one goes into the ruck to help ivan or until ivan is fit hampson. so in a way you agree mcbean is not ready to play kpf but are willing to leave us with only one kpf throughout games.
you do realise the whole idea of getting hampson was to address this very issue allowing vickery to play permanently forward so we dont lose structure.
3/ your right elton would be no worse than vickery my granny would be no worse. that doesnt mean hes capable of holding down chf for us.
4/ mate hampson will be in the 21 with or without maric there. hampson will spend significant time forward when ivan is fit not the other way around. these are the reasons we got him 1/ not to lose too much in the ruck when ivan has a rest. 2/ to allow vickery or another tall to play permanently forward to maintain structure throughout a game with jack. these are the reason why we got hampson.
5/ i have to ask who the hell are you talking about, we dont have a 25yo former top 10 draft pick kpp on the list waiting in the wings for injury. we dont have one kpp who looks remotely like being able to force riewoldt or vickery out as bad as they have been at times yet alone a ready to go 25yr old. ffs lets get him in the team quick smart.
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How many mins or game perecentage will ivan play forward when fit and Hampson in the 21 ?
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King, A Edwards & Knights should come in for McD, Foley & Petterd
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King, A Edwards & Knights should come in for McD, Foley & Petterd
Nit that I disagree with the ins, but they're all fwds and your replacing 2 backs and a mid?
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Can anyone confirm Cotchins injury?
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Can anyone confirm Cotchins injury?
Not on the injury list pope....... :-\
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Can anyone confirm Cotchins injury?
What injury?
The sore calf?
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How many mins or game perecentage will ivan play forward when fit and Hampson in the 21 ?
how the hell do i know.
if i took a guess id say a fit maric would spend 60% ruck. 20% forward 20% bench
hampson would go 40% ruck 40% forwrd 20% bench. it aint hard to do. maintain a decent ruck presence maintain the third tall forward while giving both a decent break thru out.
i ask again you do understand the reasons behind why we got hampson. you do have an understanding of exactly what ivan brings to the table as a ruckman. if you asked me id say not.
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Would bring in Jackson, King and Edwards at the expense of Petterd, Newman and Vickery. Would bring in Biscuit at expense of Foley.
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it wont happen but id be happy with as many as 6 changes and send a early message to the lot of em.
stephenson > vickery. o to the ruck, griffiths to vickerys spot and hampson spends more time forward as the ruck/for.
gordon > grigg. big body flexable and will tackle and run and hopefully use the ball better. can go forward as well.
jackson > mcdonough. jackos a mid replacing a def/mid whos not quite there yet.
king > newman. sad but true but king offers more as a forward than newman. thing is ball use and foot skills are an issue with us and newman is one of the better users of the ball and jakes not.
knights > petterd its a no brainer. can go thru the middle as well and is smart and uses well. all the things petterd isnt.
a edwards > s edwards. a medium forward for a non performing sml forward. aaron is the form forward on our list.
the crazy thing is i think there will only be changes made because of injury. if they all come up no changes.
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I wanna see knights come in, sounds like he had a good game. If RFC selection panel had any guts they would drop newman, played horribly. Let him go get some form in the 2's.
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I reckon some of you guys are way too harsh calling for heads after just one game..lets give it a few more then we can storm the bastille.
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I wanna see knights come in, sounds like he had a good game. If RFC selection panel had any guts they would drop newman, played horribly. Let him go get some form in the 2's.
:thumbsup
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I wanna see knights come in, sounds like he had a good game. If RFC selection panel had any guts they would drop newman, played horribly. Let him go get some form in the 2's.
I can't remember Newmans last standout game.
He's a hack
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FFS something has to happen
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I think if we see Grigg and Vickery's surname in the out's list we all would be happy with that! :thumbsup
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Primarily we need to see names of blokes who will do a consistently better job.
I believe #vickisue is front runner for this years , "Least consistent" award.
Say it slowly ....least con-sis-tent!
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I reckon some of you guys are way too harsh calling for heads after just one game..lets give it a few more then we can storm the bastille.
But maybe it isn't just about one game?
Some of the names are those who been dishing up the same old same old for an extended period of time but keep getting picked because the coaches love 'em for reasons lots of us just don't get
I think if we see Grigg and Vickery's surname in the out's list we all would be happy with that! :thumbsup
Agree
But won't happen :-\
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Richmond must decide whether to rush back best-and-fairest winner Daniel Jackson
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
March 23, 2014 7:22PM
RICHMOND must decide this week whether to rush back reigning Jack Dyer Medallist Daniel Jackson against Carlton after just one pre-season hit-out.
Jackson won 13 possessions in three quarters on Friday night in the club’s VFL game after returning from groin and hamstring soreness.
But he would need to play off a six-day break, a tough ask given a pre-season held back by persistent soft-tissue concerns.
Midfielder Nathan Foley could muster only a dozen possessions as he strives to play against the Blues after being a controversial omission from the finals defeat last year.
The Tigers led by 33 points early in the third term before being run down through the heroics of Chris Judd, Nick Duigan, Bryce Gibbs and Marc Murphy.
The Tigers and Blues will this year be unable to call on a number of reinforcements as they strive to avoid a 0-2 start to the season.
Small forward Chris Knights was excellent at VFL level with 24 touches, and could be considered after a number of games back from what Damien Hardwick has described as a “car crash” of a knee injury.
The Blues will also have to dig themselves out of their Round 1 hole without former captain Judd, who lit up the MCG in the third-quarter of last year’s blockbuster final.
He is considered likely to play in Round 3 but isn’t yet ready after achilles surgery.
Likewise, Andrew Carrazzo (calf) and ex-Brisbane recruit Sam Docherty (knee) are another week away.
The Blues will need to replace defender Andrew Walker, suspended for slinging Port Adelaide’s Angus Monfries into the Etihad Stadium fence.
Blues football manager Andrew Mackay said last week Judd was still a week away, but Dennis Armfield (knee) could face a fitness test.
“He’s (Judd’s) running now and will be training late this week or early next week, so we’re confident he will be ready for the match against Essendon.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-must-decide-whether-to-rush-back-bestandfairest-winner-daniel-jackson/story-fni5f9jc-1226862631439
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I would not risk/rush jacko back this week we wil need him fit.
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Would be a panic move.
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Would be a panic move.
So a Richmond move then?
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Just let Thomas do the hard stuff. No point rushing him back, he's had no run-time basically. Will do more harm than good.
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Just let Thomas do the hard stuff. No point rushing him back, he's had no run-time basically. Will do more harm than good.
He can do more harm than good when he is fit as well
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Knights has to play
Class above 90% of the list
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Knights has to play
Class above 90% of the list
Agree. We've gotta find some goals from somewhere. Especially since we've decided the best place to play the best full forward in the AFL is on a wing :banghead
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Roughead plays on a wing for us?
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Roughead plays on a wing for us?
No Cloke
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Roughead plays on a wing for us?
No Cloke
Cloke plays on a wing for us?
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Knights has to play
Class above 90% of the list
Could use some class off half back. Get it done Dimma. :clapping
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Knights has to play
Class above 90% of the list
Could use some class off half back. Get it done Dimma. :clapping
HF
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Knights has to play
Class above 90% of the list
Could use some class off half back. Get it done Dimma. :clapping
HF
Half back is the new half forward. ;D
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Knights has to play
Class above 90% of the list
Could use some class off half back. Get it done Dimma. :clapping
HF
Tigs was getting inb4 Hardwick changes Knights' position :shh
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Out: Choking after half-time
In: Maintaining lead right to fulltime
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Tigs was getting inb4 Hardwick changes Knights' position :shh
:clapping
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Roughead plays on a wing for us?
Point taken , but you must admit Jack is the best full forward we've had since ' Barge' Taylor
;D
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Gotta love Barge Taylor ;D
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Out: Choking after half-time
In: Maintaining lead right to fulltime
X2 :clapping
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Richmond won't panic as it seeks its first win of season
Emma Quayle
The Age
March 23, 2014
Richmond's disappointment at its opening round loss is unlikely to spark any panic at the selection table before Thursday night's match against Carlton.
While Daniel Jackson is available for selection having overcome the hamstring injury that cut short his pre-season, the Tigers will resist tipping too many players out of the side beaten by Gold Coast on March 15.
Carlton will be unable to slot Chris Judd and Andrew Carrazzo into its side, with both midfielders at least one more week away from resuming, but must find at least one new player to replace the suspended Andrew Walker.
The Blues' selection decisions are unlikely to be driven by any injury concerns. The team has not reported any problems since its 33-point loss to Port Adelaide in round one.
Richmond football manager Dan Richardson said Jackson had played about three quarters of Friday's match, after he was injured late in the Tigers' pre-season.
The short turnaround may also count against the 27-year-old, with the club not wanting to rush him back into the senior side before he is fully prepared.
"He played on Friday in the VFL and he'll be better for the run," Richardson said. "Whether he did enough to be up for selection for Thursday I'm not quite sure. That's something that will be discussed later in the week.
"He hadn't played at all, so he needed to get a run in. We'll see what happens during the week but, at this stage, I'd say he would be unlikely to come straight back in.
"We've got a few back in the VFL now which is good, but there's no panic. I wouldn't think we'd be making too many changes this week."
Jackson, the Tigers' primary midfield shutdown player, lined up alongside first-round draftee Ben Lennon, utility Chris Knights and onballer Nathan Foley in the VFL game against Footscray.
Ruckman Ivan Maric is not expected to be playing for at least another few weeks although Jake King, left out of the round one side because he had not been able to get sufficient work in, is fit and under consideration for a return to the forward line.
Lennon, Richmond's first choice at No.12 in last year's draft, played his first game after being sent for minor knee surgery in February, with Knights continuing his journey back from the horrendous knee injury that cut short his first season at Richmond last year.
Walker accepted a one-match ban for rough conduct following the Blues' loss to Port Adelaide, with Kane Lucas, Sam Rowe and young midfielders Patrick Cripps, Dylan Buckley and Nick Holman likely to be considered for a call-up.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-wont-panic-as-it-seeks-its-first-win-of-season-20140323-hvlx6.html#ixzz2wsRvNW5g
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Want Knights and King in.
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Roughead plays on a wing for us?
No Cloke
Cloke plays on a wing for us?
Yep its 1974 in the Punt Road Hot Tub machine. :thumbsup
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Maybe Knights in for Newman and King for Foley, even Arnot for Foley...
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KNIGHTS
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Maybe Knights in for Newman and King for Foley, even Arnot for Foley...
Unfortunately we all know Newman will never ever be dropped. He's an untouchable
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Maybe Knights in for Newman and King for Foley, even Arnot for Foley...
Unfortunately we all know Newman will never ever be dropped. He's an untouchable
:yep :yep
So true
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Maybe Knights in for Newman and King for Foley, even Arnot for Foley...
Unfortunately we all know Newman will never ever be dropped. He's an untouchable
At what point do we start to ignore that he was our club's captain and recognise that he's a crap footballer at present.... ? and we have Nathan Gordon who is probably already a better option rotting away in the 2's
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Gotta love Barge Taylor ;D
BARGE! :clapping
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When are the changes for Thursday announced?
:cheers
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Teams announced Wednesday
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In the mix: round two
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
March 25, 2014 12:40 PM
RICHMOND
Club champion Daniel Jackson was eased back from a hamstring injury with the Tigers' VFL team on Saturday, playing three quarters of a practice match against Footscray. The strong-bodied midfielder will have five days to recover for Thursday night's blockbuster against Carlton but appears set to return. Pushing strong cases for inclusion were half-forward Chris Knights (24 possessions), who regularly drifted into defence, and midfielder Anthony Miles (20 possessions and six clearances). Prized draftee Ben Lennon has recovered from a knee injury and played a half but is unlikely to feature in senior calculations yet.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-25/in-the-mix-round-two
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In the mix: round two
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
March 25, 2014 12:40 PM
RICHMOND
Club champion Daniel Jackson was eased back from a hamstring injury with the Tigers' VFL team on Saturday, playing three quarters of a practice match against Footscray. The strong-bodied midfielder will have five days to recover for Thursday night's blockbuster against Carlton but appears set to return. Pushing strong cases for inclusion were half-forward Chris Knights (24 possessions), who regularly drifted into defence, and midfielder Anthony Miles (20 possessions and six clearances). Prized draftee Ben Lennon has recovered from a knee injury and played a half but is unlikely to feature in senior calculations yet.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-25/in-the-mix-round-two
Great reporting there by Nathan Schmuk oops I mean Schmook ::)
Miles is a rookie and isn't elevated so therefore cannot be considered for selection ::)
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Who’s hurt? Who’s on the cusp? We look ahead to Round 2 in this week’s Barometer
Herald-Sun
March 25, 2014
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: There were no shortage of players who didn’t live up to expectations in Round 1 but Matt McDonough seems the likely omission if Damien Hardwick wants to make a change. Nathan Foley is also on the brink — he started as the sub against Gold Coast and played in the VFL on Friday. The rest are on notice to turn their form around.
ON THE CUSP: The big question this week is do the Tigers rush back Daniel Jackson? The Jack Dyer Medallist played his first minutes of the year in a VFL practice match on Friday after being hampered by groin and hamstring soreness and picked up 13 disposals in three quarters. His leadership is vital but he might be too underdone, especially coming off a six-day break. The other hot topic at selection will be the misfiring forward line and the possible need to add a mid-size or crumbing forward to the mix. Aaron Edwards, Chris Knights and Jake King are all options.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Knights might get the nod to return for his first game since his “car crash” knee injury last season after a couple of impressive VFL performances, but Jackson may have to wait another week. We’ve heard plenty about last year’s finals disaster (expect to hear more before Thursday) and the fact Carlton has won 11 of the past 12 clashes between these sides. More remarkable is that in three head-to-head match-ups last season the Tigers opened up a lead of four goals or more only to be mown down. Let’s see how much Richmond has grown; 0-2 isn’t a good place to be.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/whos-hurt-whos-on-the-cusp-we-look-ahead-to-round-2-in-this-weeks-barometer/story-fndv7pj3-1226863188624?from=trendinglinks
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I swear Hardeick wrote that article. "Matt McDonough is a second round selection. Ffs why didn't you tell me. He's cut"
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Although I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. Wendell is cut. Rudy is cut. Janey, you're gone. Steven, I like your hustle. That's why it was so hard to cut you.
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Although I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. Wendell is cut. Rudy is cut. Janey, you're gone. Steven, I like your hustle. That's why it was so hard to cut you.
:lol it's a real shame Steven was drafted early 2nd round and not first. Could have even been saved if he'd played like poo for another club first. :shh
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would like to see 4 changes. see i can be optimistic.
a edwards for petterd.
knights for mcdonough
gordon for grigg or houli cant have both sheepdogs.
jackson for newman or s edwards.
very lucky ellis.
would have loved to see vickery get a bullet put up him and play elton, but its not practicle atm such a shame there are no real options with the talls.another howler from vickery and maybe we just bite the bullet and change things around a bit.
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How many mins or game perecentage will ivan play forward when fit and Hampson in the 21 ?
how the hell do i know.
if i took a guess id say a fit maric would spend 60% ruck. 20% forward 20% bench
hampson would go 40% ruck 40% forwrd 20% bench. it aint hard to do. maintain a decent ruck presence maintain the third tall forward while giving both a decent break thru out.
i ask again you do understand the reasons behind why we got hampson. you do have an understanding of exactly what ivan brings to the table as a ruckman. if you asked me id say not.
So we play two ruckman + Tyrone/jack/griff
That is very tall. Playing the above five limits our run. Ideally Hampson would be dropped?
I would say Hampson is primarily a back up ruckman playing in the twos in an ideal world. This would mean we have young kPp players Plus extra speed / midfield roations. That said I am not against two ruckman set up but unsure