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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 18, 2014, 02:40:16 AM
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VFL Practice Match.
Footscray FC vs Richmond FC
Friday, 21 March 2014
4:30 PM
@ Victoria University Whitten Oval
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woohoo cant wait probably play Vickery to get his confidence up still probably wouldn't get a kick
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Is there an entry fee???
Parking available???
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Must win game.
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Stream? Don't wanna go and get stabbed in Foot-a-scray
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Field the full senior side. That'll learn 'em.
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8 point game
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The full Richmond VFL team is:
11 Jake Batchelor
15 Chris Knights
22 Todd Banfield
23 Daniel Jackson
26 Anthony Miles
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Ben Lennon
37 Orren Stephenson
39 Nathan Gordon
40 Cadeyn Williams
41 Nathan Foley
42 Sam Lloyd
43 Todd Elton
44 Matt Arnot
48 Ben Darrou
51 Nathan Batsanis
52 Clayton McCartney
53 Ed Barlow
62 Pat Contin
64 Alroy Gilligan
65 Daniel Schibeci
66 Gerard Gleeson
67 Luke Conca
70 Andrew McQualter
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Witchety grub Gilligan is back. :clapping :clapping
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Foley playing :whistle
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Still no Aaron Davey?
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Richmond best and fairest winner Daniel Jackson to play in VFL practice match against Footscray
From: Herald Sun
March 20, 2014 2:39PM
RICHMOND club champion Daniel Jackson will push his case for senior selection in a VFL practice match on Friday.
Jackson, returning from a hamstring injury, is one of several Tigers set to play in the match against Footscray at Whitten Oval.
Tigers’ first draft pick (no. 12) Ben Lennon is a surprise inclusion following to minor knee surgery last month.
Lennon experienced pain in the joint after making his debut in a NAB Challenge match.
He is joined in the VFL squad by Tigers Chris Knights, Jake Batchelor and Nathan Foley.
Knights, on the comeback trail from a knee reconstruction, has played just five games in Richmond strips after joining the club through free agency from Adelaide.
Emerging Richmond forward Liam McBean has also been named in the 25-man squad.
Richmond VFL v Footscray at Whitten Oval from 4.30pm
Entry: Free
Parking: Limited
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-best-and-fairest-winner-daniel-jackson-to-play-in-vfl-practice-match-against-footscray/story-fni5f9jb-1226860244030
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No Dylan Grimes?
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Nice bit of depth building just quietly, :clapping
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No Dylan Grimes?
Back in the seniors?
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It's not the mail I've got, :shh
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Nice bit of depth building just quietly, :clapping
Sounds nice. Lets hope we start beating bottom 10 sides for a start *rollseyes*
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No Dylan Grimes?
Back in the seniors?
Back in Germany?
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Nath Gordon bangs one through from 50.
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The Bean is back!!!
Banfield finds McBean on the lead, who takes a grab and slots one through. Tigers 2. 1. 13 to Footscray 0. 1. 1
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:gotigers
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Dogs get 1.
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What happened to Aaron Davey?
I thought he was pulling on the boots for out VFL side????
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What happened to Aaron Davey?
I thought he was pulling on the boots for out VFL side????
Only when required I believe. Doubt he'd rock up to praccy games :lol
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Fair enough thanks.
:gotigers
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Footscray kick one more after some hard fought footy. Two goals each, Tigers really good defensively so far.
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Footscray 2.1.13
Richmond 2.4.16
Quarter Time
Mark Williams here on far wing instructing players to kick it long. Richmond with the breeze in the first quarter.
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Tigers really good defensively so far.
Swap them into the AFL.
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Tigers really good defensively so far.
Swap them into the AFL.
Hold your horses, Dogs in front.
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Go Beaner!!!!
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HT
Footscray 5.10.40
Richmond 5.4.34
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Any score updates??
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Footscray 8.11.59
Richmond 7.6.47
3QT
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Footscray 8.11.59
Richmond 7.6.47
3QT
Cheers Torch. Any details on goalkickers, best players?
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Margin now out to 26.
RR, Gordon has kicked 3 and McBean 2 according to Richmond VFL twitter.
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Footscray 16.13.109
Richmond 7.5.47
Full Time
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Gordon 3, McBean 2, Arnot, Miles.
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Thanks One-Eyed. Good to hear from you again, it's been a while. Hopefully we can catch up at the Carlton (hock-ptooi) game. I'd love to see Flash Gordon and Lloyd (among others) promoted for said match.
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Showed as much heart as the seniors.
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Same poo, different sash.
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That's a disgraceful last qtr against that two bit mob, Clarke will be on notice I would have thought, :shh
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Lot of one way runners from what saw in the last half. Elton and Arnot showed promise at times but that was about all. Very poor showing!
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I heard Gordo kicked 3, Lennon 16 touches first half, what u make of it?
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That's a disgraceful last qtr against that two bit mob, Clarke will be on notice I would have thought, :shh
You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
Suggest folks get used to that concept or they are going to get very stressed in 2014 ;D
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You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
We seem to be getting them to play the same way as the seniors at the moment. ;D ;)
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Lennon looked ok.
Jackson very underdone
Gordon good when forward
Stephenson very poor game.
Darou had an average game.
Foley below his normal standards.
Miles average.
Batchellor gave his opponent too much space.
Williams running around lost.
Lloyd barely got a run.
McIntosh was ok at times.
Best on ground again was the rotations organiser. Had more rotations then Richmond had kicks.
Development should mean game time WP. Not 5000 rotations.
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Cheers , footscray are pretty hard to beat at whiten oval so won't lose too much sleep
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Development should mean game time WP. Not 5000 rotations.
In Praccy games the fitness people limit players game time
All I am saying is that people better get used to our VFL side not wining all the time because wins aren't the focus, development is.
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Lennon looked ok.
Jackson very underdone
Gordon good when forward
Stephenson very poor game.
Darou had an average game.
Foley below his normal standards.
Miles average.
Batchellor gave his opponent too much space.
Williams running around lost.
Lloyd barely got a run.
McIntosh was ok at times.
Best on ground again was the rotations organiser. Had more rotations then Richmond had kicks.
Development should mean game time WP. Not 5000 rotations.
McBean and Elton??
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Lennon looked ok.
Jackson very underdone
Gordon good when forward
Stephenson very poor game.
Darou had an average game.
Foley below his normal standards.
Miles average.
Batchellor gave his opponent too much space.
Williams running around lost.
Lloyd barely got a run.
McIntosh was ok at times.
Best on ground again was the rotations organiser. Had more rotations then Richmond had kicks.
Development should mean game time WP. Not 5000 rotations.
McBean and Elton??
Arnot?
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Development should mean game time WP. Not 5000 rotations.
In Praccy games the fitness people limit players game time
All I am saying is that people better get used to our VFL side not wining all the time because wins aren't the focus, development is.
hmm if development is key how many juniors will we have each week at vfl mate that side has an abundance of big bodied experienced players. if they cant win and develop players with that sort of setup they have the wrong people in charge.
you want a winning culture and breed confidence win games of footy it aint rocket science.
i for one am sick to death of the excuses we find all sorts of reasons for not winning weather that be afl or vfl.
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i for one am sick to death of the excuses we find all sorts of reasons for not winning whether that be afl or vfl.
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Richmond’s Ben Lennon and Western Bulldog Marcus Bontempelli impressed in the VFL
Herald-Sun
March 22, 2014
RICHMOND and Western Bulldogs’ prized draft picks took another step towards validating their summer hype with impressive performances in last night’s VFL practice match.
Ben Lennon, who joined the Tigers with the No. 12 pick, collected 16 first-half disposals at Whitten Oval after minor knee surgery last month, while best-and-fairest winner Daniel Jackson got through the hit-out and should bolster the AFL side next week.
Jackson’s pre-season was interrupted by a hamstring strain but he is expected to win promotion to Richmond’s side for Thursday’s blockbuster against Carlton.
Dogs No. 4 pick Marcus Bontempelli is starting to creep into AFL contention after overcoming a small knee setback last month.
The 192cm midfielder roamed the ground impressively with his long arms and surprising speed standing out.
Bontempelli, who plays in Scott Pendlebury’s mould, joined the Dogs as a raw and skinny 17-year-old but has his teammates excited with his similarities to emerging star Jack Macrae.
Lennon, a classy medium forward, is shaping as another blue-chip selection after the ready-mace successes of Brandon Ellis, Nick Vlastuin and Reece Conca.
Tough midfielder Clay Smith got through his second VFL clash unscathed following his swift return from a knee reconstruction, but Daniel Pearce left the clash with a suspected knee injury.
Smith’s injury effectively cost him just seven matches given he ruptured his ACL in Round 16 last year.
Spearhead Liam Jones took some strong grabs around the ground and was trialled in the ruck as Footscray kicked clear late to win by 62 points.
Former Crow Chris Knights collected 24 disposals for the Tigers.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-ben-lennon-and-western-bulldog-marcus-bontempelli-impressed-in-the-vfl/story-fndv8weh-1226861669690
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Elton was very good in my opinion. Presents well as a CHF. He will play seniors this year no doubt.
McBean is improving
Arnot was our best mid
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thanks crack, how did you rate Lennon in the first half,
FAIR - GOOD- VERY GOOD - EXCELLENT
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Elton was very good in my opinion. Presents well as a CHF. He will play seniors this year no doubt.
McBean is improving
Arnot was our best mid
Would Elton be a better option than Snickery?
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I reckon that Elton is next cab off the rank if TV or griff were to be dropped, looks to be coming along nicely,
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What? play a reasonably talented young player ahead of a 30yo has been/hack like A Edwards? Surely you jest.
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That's a disgraceful last qtr against that two bit mob, Clarke will be on notice I would have thought, :shh
You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
Suggest folks get used to that concept or they are going to get very stressed in 2014 ;D
Would think part of development is at least putting in some effort
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Depends if the "Development" is the right one.
Lennon, Arnot, Elton, McBean, Knights were OK.
Lennon is a genuine forward. It would be better for his development to play half-forward in the VFL and AFL and not learn his defensive side playing half-back, but at half-forward instead as he does have class about him!
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Development should mean game time WP. Not 5000 rotations.
In Praccy games the fitness people limit players game time
All I am saying is that people better get used to our VFL side not wining all the time because wins aren't the focus, development is.
hmm if development is key how many juniors will we have each week at vfl mate that side has an abundance of big bodied experienced players. if they cant win and develop players with that sort of setup they have the wrong people in charge.
you want a winning culture and breed confidence win games of footy it aint rocket science.
i for one am sick to death of the excuses we find all sorts of reasons for not winning weather that be afl or vfl.
And it ain't rocket science to know that AFL sides that have fielded their own VFL sides have had as their main focus development over results.
They have stated it. Remember sitting at luncheon where Neil Balme spoke and that is how he explained it. Now considering that the RFC has also stated that they have been following the Geelong model in setting up our VFL side I would think it is a reasonable assumption to think that for now development has a far greater priority than wins. And before you raise the fact Geelong has won VFL premierships you need to look at when and where their list was at those times. Just like you need to look at their injury lists in the years they haven't had good VFL seasons
Would think part of development is at least putting in some effort
Absolutely, but that is totally different area to results and that was my point. Development and results are not inclusive of one another. You can have a good development program but it doesn't necessarily equate to VFL premierships especially if light of a teams list age and size wise
Will say it again if people are going into 2014 expecting our VFL side to win every week, finish top 4 etc they are likely going to be disappointed. Wins will be welcome but they aren't the main focus
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You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
We seem to be getting them to play the same way as the seniors at the moment. ;D ;)
:lol
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as a isaid with the squad and experience they have if they cant win and develop at the same time there is something really wrong. i agree its not entirely about winning but its a damn big part of it.
id like a dollar for every time ive heard richmond people complain about our players getting a kick at coburg. complain about and ask how do you improve players in such unstructured unskilled sides.
how can players prove themselves when your getting belted all over the field.
i think in the last 3 yrs we have won 4 or 5 games in each yr at coburg. i dont care how good our development is if you are getting belted most weeks you wont develop a thing unless you have an outstanding talent on your hands. good structure plenty of experience good game plan should equate to plenty of wins weather development is the main focus or not.
we dont have a lot of 1st and 2nd yr players in our vfl team. it is more about putting in place structures and plans that mirror our seniors. if those things cant win vfl games they sure wont win afl games. if our kids are getting their arses kicked every week they wont play seniors.
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Jackson returns but VFL Tigers beaten
John Lindon
richmond.com.au
March 22, 2014
Richmond struggled to utilise a strong breeze and fell to a fast-finishing Footscray by 62 points in a VFL practice match at Whitten Oval this afternoon.
In what was a scrappy game dictated by wind, the Tigers welcomed back star midfielder Daniel Jackson from a hamstring injury.
He consistently threw his body at the ball, winning contested possessions at stoppages.
Despite his impact and collecting 13 touches, Jackson was eased back slightly, playing three-quarters of the match.
Ben Lennon also made a successful and impressive return from injury, playing his scheduled half a match, and leading Richmond’s possessions with 16 at the main break.
Another Tiger cub, Nathan Gordon kicked two goals for the game, one a long goal from outside 50.
Richmond was aided by the breeze in the first term and used it well, moving the ball quickly and with purpose. A long kick-in from Ed Barlow to the open side of the ground ignited an end-to-end move that was capped off by a goal from Liam McBean.
Jake Batchelor was a standout for the Tigers in defence. He spoiled well, won the ball at ground level and knocked it to safety.
Matt Arnot (14 possessions) and Nathan Foley (12) worked hard and provided run and carry.
A wonderful centering pass from Nathan Batsanis set up Nathan Gordon’s second goal while McBean’s second came on the siren to end a tight first half.
Chris Knights gathered his 24 possessions all over the ground but was particularly effective when filling holes in defence and intercepting Footscray’s forward entries.
Orren Stephenson had 32 hit-outs and also featured in Richmond’s defence. He took two crucial intercept marks but the Tigers struggled to contain the Bulldogs’ run through the centre of the ground.
Anthony Miles lifted in the second half and his terrific contested work saw him finish the game with 20 disposals and a team-high six clearances.
His dribble goal from deep in the pocket was the highlight of a tough third term for the Tigers, who found it difficult to score despite having the advantage of the breeze.
Richmond was held goalless while Footscray piled on seven goals in a one-sided final term.
RICHMOND: 2.4 5.4 7.5 7.5 (47)
FOOTSCRAY: 2.1 5.10 8.11 16.13 (109)
GOALS: McBean 2, Gordon 2, Arnot, Miles, McCartney
BEST: Miles, Knights, Gordon, Stephenson, Arnot, Jackson
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-03-22/jackson-returns-but-vfl-tigers-beaten
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Question is has Grimes had further complications or has he been earmarked for a return to the seniors?
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Question is has Grimes had further complications or has he been earmarked for a return to the seniors?
He was training with the seniors on Friday here at ME Bank Centre.
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Question is has Grimes had further complications or has he been earmarked for a return to the seniors?
He was training with the seniors on Friday here at ME Bank Centre.
Cheers. 8)
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Question is has Grimes had further complications or has he been earmarked for a return to the seniors?
He was training with the seniors on Friday here at ME Bank Centre.
Cheers. 8)
Dont put too much stock in that, he also told us Maric was training with the seniors in response to a rumour about his ankle - a week later he was having surgery :whistle
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So people actually care about the results of a VFL practice match these days. Jeepers.
Bulldogs players all played 4 quarters whilst a few of ours were limited to 2 or 3. :shh
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So people actually care about the results of a VFL practice match these days. Jeepers.
Bulldogs players all played 4 quarters whilst a few of ours were limited to 2 or 3. :shh
VFL practice matches are for cattle stations and r srs.
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PICS from the game:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/gallery/2014-03-24/vfl-practice-match-rich-v-footscray#9c0686c92d1f4410VgnVCM100000976bb70aRCRD
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Pic 16 , good to see the bulldogs new high tech lighting system in operation.
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That's a disgraceful last qtr against that two bit mob, Clarke will be on notice I would have thought, :shh
You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
Suggest folks get used to that concept or they are going to get very stressed in 2014 ;D
You have been defending his sorry arse for years (Clarke)
This years it's okay cause his coaching to instruction, what about previous
He is not a very good developer of our kids, I mean when was our last rookie or late draft pick selected regularly to play seniors. We can't even find anyone to replace hacks like Newman hence why we keep topping up.
If Dimms had any brains he would've sacked him his provided nothing since he was hired.
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his biin in he's poseteon too long?
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Good looking jumper
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Could have used vlad vs gold coast
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Would think part of development is at least putting in some effort
Absolutely, but that is totally different area to results and that was my point. Development and results are not inclusive of one another. You can have a good development program but it doesn't necessarily equate to VFL premierships especially if light of a teams list age and size wise
No I was more talking about this point you made
You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
Efforts like that suggest he isn't doing what he's supposed to be doing. But it was only one praccy game just hope there is more improvement over the course of the year.
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No I was more talking about this point you made
You are kidding, he's doing what he supposed to be doing. It's all about development, wins aren't the focus.
Efforts like that suggest he isn't doing what he's supposed to be doing. But it was only one praccy game just hope there is more improvement over the course of the year.
Fair enough and I agree you want a better effort and that is part of their development. But effort isn't going to necessarily result in wins. And like you said it was only a praccy game, and in the overall scheme of things praccy game reuslts mean very little when the season starts - look at the AFL tigers -v- GC :P
I just think part of his job and the other development coaches for that matter right now is to (1) get all the players in the VFL whether that be our listed players or the VFL listed players up to speed with the RFC style of play (whatever that is this week ;D). And (2) teach/develop our younger players to improve in the areas that club believes they're deficient in.
IMHO if it comes down to a choice between winning games with someone like McBean kicking 5 goals a game or McBean playing more minutes around the ground to improve say his endurance and sacrificing the goals and then by extension a win then the development of McBean or any other player will be the priority not winning
That's why I keep going on about if people are expecting wins to be the aim of our VFL side then they are most likely going to be very disppointed
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So people actually care about the results of a VFL practice match these days. Jeepers.
Bulldogs players all played 4 quarters whilst a few of ours were limited to 2 or 3. :shh
when its a continuation of complete and utter crap and massive hidings yes its a problem. for yrs on end now our seconds just keep on copping it where the sun dont shine. playing to a plan or playing for development what ever there is no place for mediocrity.
would have thought even in a praccie game there is the opportunity to play well and build some confidence. if your getting torn a new one nearly every week good luck trying to develop a thing.
ffs development game plan and winning are not mutually exclusive. they should go hand in hand.
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So people actually care about the results of a VFL practice match these days. Jeepers.
Bulldogs players all played 4 quarters whilst a few of ours were limited to 2 or 3. :shh
with the rotations our players only played 1 quarter. Jackson refused to come off at one stage because he needs game time for flip sake. The Bulldogs like Collingwood VFL a week or so before are rotating much less. I'm sure our team is in good hands but for God sake leave them on the ground for more then 2 minutes!
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So people actually care about the results of a VFL practice match these days. Jeepers.
Bulldogs players all played 4 quarters whilst a few of ours were limited to 2 or 3. :shh
when its a continuation of complete and utter crap and massive hidings yes its a problem. for yrs on end now our seconds just keep on copping it where the sun dont shine. playing to a plan or playing for development what ever there is no place for mediocrity.
would have thought even in a praccie game there is the opportunity to play well and build some confidence. if your getting torn a new one nearly every week good luck trying to develop a thing.
ffs development game plan and winning are not mutually exclusive. they should go hand in hand.
i went to one of the praccy games and we won't win playing our game plan with vfl guys who just butcher it. It just won't happen.