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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 30, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
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Round 3
Western Bulldogs vs Richmond
1:45 PM
Saturday, April 05, 2014
@ Etihad Stadium.
Early thoughts?
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going by today..could be a tuff gig
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RFC will be getting my tip, and not from love either...
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Beware of the young Dogs at Etihad. Danger game.
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Dogs are poo. Surprisingly so are Norf.
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Dogs are pooe. Surprisingly so are Norf.
:lol :clapping
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Beware of the young Dogs at Etihad. Danger game.
Agree. Foolish to underestimate them.
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Result will be determined by which Tiger team shows up
The one that showed first half -v- the Blues
or the one that showed up -v- the Suns
Get the first one and all's good
Get the 2nd and ..... well.... :P
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Tiges by 10 goals
Dogs are poo
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Result will be determined by which Tiger team shows up
The one that showed first half -v- the Blues
or the one that showed up -v- the Suns
Get the first one and all's good
Get the 2nd and ..... well.... :P
Sounds fair :thumbsup
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Dogs play a pretty good contested brand of footy, young up and coming midfield that can win their own ball but their disposal is atrocious and fwd line still looks out of sorts. Would expect us to win and win well if we play half decently.
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Watched Western v Norf yesterday. One of the worst standard games I've seen for a while. Both teams were woeful.
Bulldogs got plenty of the ball but they have no forward line whatsoever.
Our last 3 games against them we've won by 70 , 67 and 60 points. If we're any good we'll win this by at least 10 goals again.
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Dogs play a pretty good contested brand of footy, young up and coming midfield that can win their own ball but their disposal is atrocious and fwd line still looks out of sorts. Would expect us to win and win well if we play half decently.
Can let them win the footy and give it back to us. They're drafting has been based on drafting tough, triers that are competitive beasts but have no real talent.
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Jacko and Thomas will give Griffin and Libatoruehdhs some butt hurt.
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Jacko and Thomas will give Griffin and Libatoruehdhs some butt hurt.
Did Griffin get a kick yesterday? :shh
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Really should smash them like we did last year!
We need to get away from this, which RFC team shows up on the day, that's crap, we are a top 8 side and we need to start playing like it. That means we show up every stuffing week!
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Really should smash them like we did last year!
We need to get away from this, which RFC team shows up on the day, that's crap, we are a top 8 side and we need to start playing like it. That means we show up every stuffing week!
^ thats 100 % correct
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Really should smash them like we did last year!
We need to get away from this, which RFC team shows up on the day, that's crap, we are a top 8 side and we need to start playing like it. That means we show up every stuffing week!
What about if there is an excuse why we can't?
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Really should smash them like we did last year!
We need to get away from this, which RFC team shows up on the day, that's crap, we are a top 8 side and we need to start playing like it. That means we show up every stuffing week!
What about if there is an excuse why we can't?
Of course there'll be an excuse ....this is Richmond....even if there isn't one we'll make one up.....
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Must win game! :whistle
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If we drop this one you can kiss top 4 goodbye
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If we drop this one you can kiss top 4 goodbye
..and the flag too!
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Better not go out there to cocky. If we put the foot down keep it down tigers, I am sic and tired of letting sides back in!!
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Better not go out there to cocky. If we put the foot down keep it down tigers, I am sic and tired of letting sides back in!!
I actually found the GWS game where we won by 20 goals boring
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Cant take this game lightly dogs will be up and about.They alot of speed in the guts.
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Better not go out there to cocky. If we put the foot down keep it down tigers, I am sic and tired of letting sides back in!!
I actually found the GWS game where we won by 20 goals boring
i didn't. :cheers
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Better not go out there to cocky. If we put the foot down keep it down tigers, I am sic and tired of letting sides back in!!
I actually found the GWS game where we won by 20 goals boring
I found the 1st and a half against Carlton boring
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Surely if you nullify Griffen and Liberatore it should be a straight forward win?
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Better not go out there to cocky. If we put the foot down keep it down tigers, I am sic and tired of letting sides back in!!
I actually found the GWS game where we won by 20 goals boring
i didn't. :cheers
me 2, loved every minute of it :cheers
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Better not go out there to cocky. If we put the foot down keep it down tigers, I am sic and tired of letting sides back in!!
I actually found the GWS game where we won by 20 goals boring
i didn't. :cheers
I had a ball, thoroughly enjoyed it!
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8.75 point game?
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8.75 point game?
That's ridiculous, there have been 4 point games and 8 point games but an 8.75 point game ?
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do the maths ::)
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If we've ever needed to lose a game, this is the one.
Come on Tiges - make sure you let us down and get pumped
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Preview: Western Bulldogs v Richmond
Nat Edwards
afl.com.au
April 1, 2014 12:46 PM
If recent form counts for anything, the Tigers should have a comfortable win against the struggling Bulldogs
Richmond has a great recent record against the Western Bulldogs having won the past three encounters by an average margin of 66 points. The Bulldogs haven't beaten the Tigers since round eight, 2011 and unless they can find a suitable target up forward their losing trend against the Tigers looks set to continue. The Bulldogs didn't have a single multiple goal kicker in their loss to North Melbourne last Sunday with key forwards Liam Jones and Jake Stringer held to one major each. Their pressure was good in patches but their skill execution needs huge improvement against the Tigers this Saturday if they are to have any chance of breaking through for their first win of the season. Richmond held off a fast finishing Carlton last Thursday night and has since had an eight-day break ahead of this clash. With a strong midfield and the likes of Tyrone Vickery and Jack Riewoldt up forward, the Tigers will be able to stretch the Bulldogs defence.
WHERE AND WHEN: Etihad Stadium, Saturday April 5, 1.45pm
LAST FIVE TIMES
R13, 2013, Richmond 17.19 (121) d Western Bulldogs 8.13 (61) at Etihad Stadium
R3, 2013, Richmond 20.15 (135) d Western Bulldogs 10.8 (68) at Etihad Stadium
R20, 2012, Richmond 22.18 (150) d Western Bulldogs 12.8 (80) at the MCG
R8, 2011, Western Bulldogs 23.15 (153) d Richmond 18.10 (118) at Etihad Stadium
R2, 2010, Western Bulldogs 17.18 (120) d Richmond 7.6 (48) at the MCG
THE SIX POINTS
1. Richmond thrashed the Bulldogs twice last season at Etihad Stadium, recording wins by 67 and 60 points in rounds three and 13.
2. Both teams are ranked in the top five in the League for disposals. The Tigers are fourth averaging 378 disposals per game, while the Bulldogs are fifth with 370.5 possessions per game.
3. Richmond has won the past three clashes against the Bulldogs by an average margin of 66 points.
4. At Etihad Stadium, Richmond holds a narrow advantage over the Bulldogs winning six games to five with one draw.
5. The Tigers are struggling in tackles so far in 2014 and are ranked 16th in the League with 59.5 per game, while the Dogs are ranked 12th averaging 79 tackles per game.
6. Next to captain Ryan Griffen, Tom Liberatore is the second-highest ranked Bulldogs player in the AFL's Official Rankings at 32. He cramped badly in the final term in the loss to North Melbourne but should be fit and ready for this game.
Prediction: Richmond by 32 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-01/preview-western-bulldogs-v-richmond
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If we've ever needed to lose a game, this is the one.
Come on Tiges - make sure you let us down and get pumped
You just worry about your own team champ. Zip and two :lol Not a great start to the year for Mick and the boys is it ?
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Need to try to get some % with this one...
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Im liking how weve thumped them the past 3-4 times, but we still owe them. They used to exercise no mercy on us and enjoyed walloping us by 100+ under that idiot Eade
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It shows we've come along way that other sides now see playing us as a test :thumbsup.
Dogs ready for Richmond test
April 2, 2014 3:36 PM
When on song Richmond will trouble any side in the competition, but the Bulldogs are up to the challenge according to Senior Coach Brendan McCartney.
The Tigers hold a strong record against the Dogs in recent years and McCartney said this clash will show just how much his team has improved since they last met in Round 13 last year.
“Every game is a measuring stick of what you are doing,” McCartney said.
“There are a couple of things that, at their best, Richmond is a challenge for every club.
“It is an area that we have been really working strongly at - so for me and our coaches and our players, yeah it’s a good test - we are confident we will play pretty well Saturday.”
McCartney said it was important the Bulldogs did not allow Richmond to play the game on their own terms or it would be an uphill battle for the four points.
“They have got a distinct way of playing, if you let them play the way they want, they will test you,” he said.
“I would have thought they were really well advanced with that group, [Coach] Damien [Hardwick] has had them for five or six years now and he’s had a coaching group around him.
“That’s a good time frame for everyone to have a connection where everyone is really clear about how they want to go about it.”
The Bulldogs are eager to improve on last week’s showing against North Melbourne, applying their defensive brand of football across the whole four quarters.
“We are going to turn up on Saturday to have a real crack again and we are confident we can do it for a little bit longer than we did last Sunday,” he said.
“We fell about…probably 15 minutes [short]. [We will] fight all day to play the way we want and see where it takes us.”
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-04-02/dogs-ready-for-richmond-test
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“There are a couple of things that, at their best, Richmond is a challenge for every club.
Is he purposely dumbing down his English to connect more effectively with the Bulldog faithful?
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This sounds very much like the write up from Bluey before the GC game. :o We really need to learn how to push and create space against highly contested teams which man up tightly on us. We saw how we reacted when Carlton played man-on-man against us in the last half - expect a game of it against the Dogs. If we can pull away from them early while we are fresh we may have a chance but a big win is unlikely given how they are plying at present imo.
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The Western Bulldogs game against Richmond is classed as a category A game and is therefore considered a high demand match.
... the front rows of Level 3 will be restricted to reserve seat sale or membership upgrades.
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-04-02/member-ticketing-bulldogs-v-tigers
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The Western Bulldogs game against Richmond is classed as a category A game and is therefore considered a high demand match.
... the front rows of Level 3 will be restricted to reserve seat sale or membership upgrades.
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-04-02/member-ticketing-bulldogs-v-tigers
They're kidding themselves. This game should be C class or B class at best and watch how low the attendance will be now.
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VIDEO: Richo and assistant coach Danny Daly preview the Bulldogs game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-03/spotlight-on-r3
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Despite no Lids or Hampson, we're still strong favourites with the bookies and media experts ...
Richmond $1.33
W.Bulldogs $3.35
Line at 18.5 pts
Source: TAB.com.au
Age journos: 22 - 2
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
So you reckon I can rock up and watch on Level 3? stuff these pricks trying to bleed everyone out of money. Soon it will just be easier to watch on TV. :whistle
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The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
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The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
spot on. Since when do supporters of big clubs have more money than poor clubs?
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The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
spot on. Since when do supporters of big clubs have more money than poor clubs?
:yep Just because the club may be richer doesn't mean their supporters are. I think they are hoping with the competition/pressure created to gain seats, supporters may be more inclined to buy the more expensive tickets just to see their beloved team play. I think attendances will drop as a result particularly to bigger games imo
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
So you reckon I can rock up and watch on Level 3? stuff these pricks trying to bleed everyone out of money. Soon it will just be easier to watch on TV. :whistle
Seems GA will have to sit up in the back rows of level 3. So watch out for the front rows being 3/4ers empty while Tiger supporters are jammed in like sardines up the back ::).
... the front rows of Level 3 will be restricted to reserve seat sale or membership upgrades.
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-04-02/member-ticketing-bulldogs-v-tigers
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
So you reckon I can rock up and watch on Level 3? stuff these pricks trying to bleed everyone out of money. Soon it will just be easier to watch on TV. :whistle
Yes I do
But I also reckon the open level 1 just before the first bounce or half way through the 1st qtr to get it to look better on TV. They've done it before
The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
It is a rare thing but I agree with you
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The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
spot on. Since when do supporters of big clubs have more money than poor clubs?
:yep Just because the club may be richer doesn't mean their supporters are. I think they are hoping with the competition/pressure created to gain seats, supporters may be more inclined to buy the more expensive tickets just to see their beloved team play. I think attendances will drop as a result particularly to bigger games imo
Agree. Now we won't have to buy a reserved seat at games like the Carlton one because no one will be there. :lol Epic fail. :clapping :clapping
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
So you reckon I can rock up and watch on Level 3? stuff these pricks trying to bleed everyone out of money. Soon it will just be easier to watch on TV. :whistle
Yes I do
But I also reckon the open level 1 just before the first bounce or half way through the 1st qtr to get it to look better on TV. They've done it before
The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
It is a rare thing but I agree with you
I was allowed on the bottom level for a normal ticket price in 2011 in order to fill it. :lol
And you agree with him because it's the first time he's said something sensible. :shh
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The afl should do a backflip and scrap the new ticketing system soon
spot on. Since when do supporters of big clubs have more money than poor clubs?
:yep Just because the club may be richer doesn't mean their supporters are. I think they are hoping with the competition/pressure created to gain seats, supporters may be more inclined to buy the more expensive tickets just to see their beloved team play. I think attendances will drop as a result particularly to bigger games imo
Paying extra won't promise you a better standard game either.
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The solution is simple. Buy a GA ticket , wait till 5 minutes into the 1st qtr , choose the spot you want to sit on level 1 , wait till the dumbass attendant isn't looking and then walk straight past him and into the seat of your choice :thumbsup
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The solution is simple. Buy a GA ticket , wait till 5 minutes into the 1st qtr , choose the spot you want to sit on level 1 , wait till the dumbass attendant isn't looking and then walk straight past him and into the seat of your choice :thumbsup
Yessss :shh be careful though the doggies supporters sm3ll like a blocked urinal wall :chuck
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
Soon it will just be easier to watch on TV. :whistle
Already is as of this year.
#bleedtheafl
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AFL Tigers look to continue dominant form
Greg Buckle
Wide World Of Sports Ninemsn
17:15 AEST Fri Apr 4 2014
Tagger Daniel Jackson is back for Richmond, just in time for Saturday's AFL encounter with the Ryan Griffen-led Western Bulldogs.
After missing round one with a back injury and having 11 disposals last week in a loss to North Melbourne, 2013 All-Australian midfielder Griffin is due to fire at Etihad Stadium.
And if the Bulldogs' new skipper starts showing anywhere near the form he did last season, when he had 30 or more touches 11 times, the Tigers are going to need a small army to stop him.
Western Bulldogs assistant coach Shannon Grant says the 190cm Griffen's explosive pace and body strength make him a very difficult match-up.
"The more games he's going to get under his belt now, he's only going to get better," Grant told AAP on Friday.
"He' had another full week on the track where he's been able to get some extra work in as well.
"We're quite confident that it won't be too long before he's back to his damaging best.
"Richmond have a number of players they could probably put through him. I'm sure they'd put a fair bit of time into him.
"He has come off probably his best season that he's had so far last year.
"We certainly need him playing the way we know he can pretty soon.
"He's very explosive and he has terrific pace and agility.
"I never tagged too often when I was playing but I certainly wouldn't like the task of looking after him," the former North Melbourne midfielder added.
Richmond have recovered from their round-one loss to Gold Coast with victory last week over Carlton.
The winless Bulldogs faded in the final term last week as North scored a 29-point triumph.
With only eight goals to show for their efforts last week, including one each from key forwards Stewart Crameri and Liam Jones, forwards coach Grant says the Bulldogs' attack is still under construction.
"A lot of things we planned for and went into the game to achieve, we did quite well for three quarters," Grant said.
Griffen had 35 disposals when the Bulldogs last met Richmond in round 13 2013. However the Tigers can look to recent history with confidence, having beaten the Bulldogs by 67 and 60 points in their two meetings last year.
Richmond have made three changes, recalling Jackson from injury, alongside Nathan Gordon and third-string ruckman Orren Stephenson.
Nathan Foley has been dropped, while vice-captain Brett Deledio's 140-game streak of consecutive appearances has been broken by injury and ruckman Shaun Hampson has joined fellow big Ivan Maric on Richmond's injury list.
The Bulldogs will look to dominate the ruck through 2013 All-Australian Will Minson.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8825181
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Ryan 'they just gave up and stopped running' Griffon
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if we lose this game the rebuild of the richmond football club will be under serious question. :lol
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Koby Stevens is out replaced by Tom Williams
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From twitter:
@SamCohen81 - "Does my 16 game membership gets me into Etihad for the Bulldogs game?"
@Richmond_FC - "Believe it’s a fully ticketed game though so you may need to reserve a seat. Best to call our team 1300 RICHMOND"
Errr :o yes it (16 game m'ship) does and certainly not a fully ticketed game
GA seating is only on level 3 though, levels one & 2 at this stage are reserved seats = source Ticketmaster yesterday
Soon it will just be easier to watch on TV. :whistle
Already is as of this year.
#bleedtheafl
im gunna keep going while we are decent. I think I deserve it after all the poo.
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The solution is simple. Buy a GA ticket , wait till 5 minutes into the 1st qtr , choose the spot you want to sit on level 1 , wait till the dumbass attendant isn't looking and then walk straight past him and into the seat of your choice :thumbsup
Old school I like standing behind them, really gets em riled up f em
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Opposition Analysis: Western Bulldogs vs Richmond (round three)
Bulldogs website
April 4, 2014 6:45 PM
Western Bulldogs vs Richmond
Saturday 5 April 2014, 1:45pm
Venue: Etihad Stadium
Head-to-head:
Round 13, 2013: Western Bulldogs 8. 13. (61) defeated by Richmond 17. 19. (121), Etihad Stadium
Round 3, 2013: Richmond 20. 15. (135) defeated Western Bulldogs 10. 8. (68), Etihad Stadium
Round 20, 2012: Richmond 22. 18. (150) defeated Western Bulldogs 12. 8. (80), MCG
Round 8, 2011: Western Bulldogs 23. 15. (153) defeated Richmond 18. 10. (118), Etihad Stadium
Round 2, 2010: Richmond 7. 6. (48) defeated by Western Bulldogs 17. 18. (120), MCG
Last time they met:
•Between former captain Matthew Boyd and his protégé Ryan Griffen the duo accumulated 72 disposals, 17 marks, 12 clearances, 13 tackles and 14 inside 50s and were the engine room of the Bulldogs midfield
•Richmond had a much more even spread of experience across the side which was reflected across the stats card – including nine players with between 100 and 150 games under their belt, in comparison to the Bulldogs one.
•There was less than four goals between the two sides at the main change but a dominant third quarter by Richmond ultimately determined the final result. The Tigers kicked five goals while restricting the Bulldogs to two behinds for the term.
•All Australian Will Minson dominated in the ruck dual against Ivan Maric with 39 hitouts to the Tiger’s combined total of 33
Recent form:
Western Bulldogs
The Bulldogs faced a tough initiation into season 2014, travelling to Perth to take on West Coast before a round two clash against a determined North Melbourne. A stronger showing against the Kangaroos bodes well for the Bulldogs as they gather steam. The Dogs are yet to produce their first win but a number of highly competitive games during the pre-season indicate they have the talent and personnel to challenge good sides.
Richmond
Richmond are 1-1 heading into the round three clash with the Bulldogs and will want to build some momentum for the season. Key injuries to Brett Deledio, Ivan Maric and now Shaun Hampson will require the Tigers to draw on their depth through the middle. With firm aspirations towards finals this year, this will be a crucial test for the Tigers.
Game breakers and key match ups:
•Ryan Griffen was eased into his first game last week (11 disposals, one goal) and is expected to spend more time through the midfield against Richmond. The captain’s influence will provide support to Adam Cooney, Matthew Boyd, Tom Liberatore and an in form Jack Macrae.
•Tyrone Vickery is the only Richmond player to kick multiple goals in both games this season, however Jack Riewoldt has had multiple shots on goal in both games and has a strong record against the Dogs kicking a total of 13 goals in their past three meetings.
•While the Bulldogs’ kick to handball ratio is fairly even, part of what makes Richmond so damaging with their ball movement is their preference to kick – of their 756 disposals this season 438 were kicks. Their ability to break a game open and rebound quickly from defence is testament to that
•The Bulldogs have not relied on just one or two goal sources this season, instead looking to a mix of players to contribute on the scoreboard. The diversity of goal kickers will put the young team in good stead going forward. The Dogs have had 12 individual goal kickers so far this season – led by Jack Macrae and Stewart Crameri with three apiece.
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-04-04/opp-analysis-wb-vs-rich
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Game breakers
•Tyrone Vickery is the only Richmond player to kick multiple goals in both games this season, however Jack Riewoldt has had multiple shots on goal in both games and has a strong record against the Dogs kicking a total of 13 goals in their past three meetings.
Yeah but take away the multiple goals and what is left
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The Hawks had over 10 goal kickers last night and this is an area we were very good in last year, we need to do the same today, we cant just rely on Vicks and Jack.
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The Hawks had over 10 goal kickers last night and this is an area we were very good in last year, we need to do the same today, we cant just rely on Vicks and Jack.
Agree I want to see astbury, grimes and co hit the scoreboard
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Such a short backline.
Should hopefully see multiple goals from each of Jack, Griff and Ty. If they bag 10 between them I'll be happy.
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Snip! Leave out the insults and personal commentary and get back to the topic ppl!
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if we lose this game the rebuild of the richmond football club will be under serious question. :lol
That post just put your quality of trolling in serious question
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Is there a link to listen to this game??
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Is there a link to listen to this game??
Have you tried downloading the AFL app WAT ...then you have a choice of stations to listen to.
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Is there a link to listen to this game??
Have you tried downloading the AFL app WAT ...then you have a choice of stations to listen to.
Thanks mat, I have the RFC and AFL app so I will try those. cheers
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Is there a link to listen to this game??
Have you tried downloading the AFL app WAT ...then you have a choice of stations to listen to.
Thanks mat, I have the RFC and AFL app so I will try those. cheers
Triple M, 3AW & ABC are broadcasting the game today so WAT you could try their websites for a live audio link.
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Is there a link to listen to this game??
Have you tried downloading the AFL app WAT ...then you have a choice of stations to listen to.
Thanks mat, I have the RFC and AFL app so I will try those. cheers
Triple M, 3AW & ABC are broadcasting the game today so WAT you could try their websites for a live audio link.
Thanks mate will do.
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@AFL twitter:
#AFLDogsTigers - No changes.
Subs:
Daniel Giansiracusa (@westernbulldogs)
Nathan Gordon (@Richmond_FC)
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FINAL INTERCHANGES
Western Bulldogs: Shaun Higgins, Jack Macrae, Jason Johannisen
Substitute: Daniel Giansiracusa
Richmond: Chris Newman, Dustin Martin, Ben Griffiths
Substitute: Nathan Gordon
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-05/final-teams
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Martin on the bench.....must be a joke....
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Martin on the bench.....must be a joke....
Part of the modern rotation set-up WAT. You don't want a situation where you need to rest all your guns at once so they start one gun of the bench to bring on after the first few minutes.
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The key today is to at least match them at the stoppages in the midfield and nullify Minson's influence. Do that and we should [touchwood] have the advantage at the bookends.
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Martin on the bench.....must be a joke....
Part of the modern rotation set-up WAT. You don't want a situation where you need to rest all your guns at once so they start one gun of the bench to bring on after the first few minutes.
I know mate but geez, we don't want a situation where we are blown out of the water in the first 15 with our gun on the bench..anyway!!
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Martin on the bench.....must be a joke....
Part of the modern rotation set-up WAT. You don't want a situation where you need to rest all your guns at once so they start one gun of the bench to bring on after the first few minutes.
I know mate but geez, we don't want a situation where we are blown out of the water in the first 15 with our gun on the bench..anyway!!
Martin will be on the bench for 3 minutes tops.
Stop panicking!!!
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Thomas free in the centre. Goes long and Cotch takes a one-handed mark 48m out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 6
WB 0
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Morris on Jack.
Williams on Vickery.
Turnover gifts the Dogs a goal :banghead.
6 - 6
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King on Picken.
Ellis snaps a shot from the boundary but this week he puts it OOTF.
Dogs go coast to coast. No pressure at this stage :scream.
6 - 13
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:facepalm
Settle down Tigers. Lift your workrate and get some control of the game.
Lucky they are missing.
6 - 15
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Free to Grigg on the wing. To Dusty in the centre to Grimes. High ball into the 50. Loose ball. Rushed through for a point to us.
7 - 15
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We get the ball back and Houli marks 50m out. Point.
8 - 15
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None of our forwards have had a touch yet ::).
Two Tigers down in a contest. Grimes going back into the pack crashed into Flossy. Flossy hit his head on the turf and is off.
Cotch poster.
9 - 15
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Cotch gets a free 35m out. So far BOG so far it's not funny. He's keeping us in it.
Ah I mozzed him :P. OOTF.
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Geez another sucker punch goal we've given away from a turnover :banghead.
9 - 21
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Our forward entries are crap so far :banghead. Hit a freaking target Tigers :scream
They are feeding off our stuff-ups going forwards. 3 goals off our mistakes.
9 - 27
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hahahaha. absolutely pathetic. This will test our mental strength if we can make a comeback. no leadership and it's the 1st quarter !! normally thats when all the 'leaders' are out of their shells.
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One on one and yet again we are clueless, woeful inside 50.
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Turning it off, glad I didnt go. Players can get stuffed.
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All they are doing is flooding back to slow us down and then hit us on the counter at ground level. It's the North game all over again.
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Chaplin long and TV gets a free 25m out. Misses :P.
10 - 28
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Thomas free 65m out. Poor kick but Dusty collects and goals :gotigers
Rich 16
WB 28
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Been a fan so far of Thomas but his kicking today is nothing short of pathetic.
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.4-16
W.Bulldogs 5.4-34
Goals: Martin, Cotchin
Pathetic! Missing targets and not working hard enough as a team. They are outrunning us and cheating forward knowing they are winning the ball at ground level.
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Been a fan so far of Thomas but his kicking today is nothing short of pathetic.
He's got plenty of mates out there including our supposedly better-skilled players.
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Panic stations.
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.4-16
W.Bulldogs 5.4-34
Goals: Martin, Cotchin
Pathetic! Missing targets and not working hard enough as a team. They are outrunning us and cheating forward knowing they are winning the ball at ground level.
Looks like our small forwards can only run one way, and that's around in circles!
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Got in late due to train issues and the first thing I saw was cotchin making a good start on his clanger count.
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vlastuin subbed
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The Dogs have scored 9 times from their 11 forward entries. We've had 6 from 13. Game right there.
19 - 45 disposals in the last 12 mins; Fewer tackles; Forwards Jack, Griffs and Kingy haven't touched the footy yet.
Flossy having a concussion test. Gordon allowed 20 mins as the sub.
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Ellis finds Griffiths top of the goalsquare. Finally a mark inside 50 to our talls. Goal :gotigers
Rich 22
WB 34
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The Dogs have scored 9 times from their 11 forward entries. We've had 6 from 13. Game right there.
19 - 45 disposals in the last 12 mins; Fewer tackles; Forwards Jack, Griffs and Kingy haven't touched the footy yet.
Flossy having a concussion test. Gordon allowed 20 mins as the sub.
Kingy not fit enough, Newman too slow, Titch not fit enough, Conca not fit enough, Jacko not fit enough. Can't keep up with the Doggie's runners on the break.
... and Grimes is short of a run too!
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vlastuin subbed
???????????
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vlastuin subbed
???????????
Hit his head on the ground hard, but was also limping late in the quarter.
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Concussed WAT, Conca bereft of confidence atm
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vlastuin subbed
???????????
Hit his head on the ground hard, but was also limping late in the quarter.
Ok, cheers. Thanks HRT.
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Morris rotated off holding his right shoulder, again.
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Flossy subbed out for the rest of the game.
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I am listening on MMM....bloody hopeless we are.... :banghead
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this is shaping up to be a really ugly game for us.
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Another one to them... :banghead :banghead
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8 straight clearances to the Dogs. 25 pts down now.
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this is shaping up to be a really ugly game for us.
Doggies looking pretty strong around the clearances. We're playing one forward less, but I'm not seeing the spare man in defence.
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They're murdering us. Getting beaten all over the park. They want it more.
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Another one....I stuffing said this would happen!!!!!! :banghead :banghead :banghead
Commentators even saying we are slow!!!
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Honestly I think this comes down to coaching. The players look like they dont know what to do every time we go to the forward 50.
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Some of these in close hand balls :facepalm
No point playing like millionaires when you have a "will drop pants for food" sign hanging around your neck
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this is shaping up to be a really ugly game for us.
Doggies looking pretty strong around the clearances. We're playing one forward less, but I'm not seeing the spare man in defence.
I bet we would like to take a tall forward off but we can't now with Flossy gone for the game.
Btw another missed target by hand.
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So many crabs playing in our jumper.
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Carlton must be poo.
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Carlton must be poo.
Pettard going in really hard and trying to make something good happen.
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Why wouldn't you have a shot Cotch?
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And that suicidal play just then sums up the game :banghead.
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Why wouldn't you have a shot Cotch?
Long hard road back from here.
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This is disgusting........
Getting chopped up everywhere
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Is cotchin in danger of doing anything?
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Half-time
Richmond 2.4 3.4-22
W.Bulldogs 5.4 9.5-59
Goals: Griffiths, Cotchin, Martin.
Pathetic is not even a stronger enough word for this. Weak as!
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37 points down at half time...saw this coming.....we are pathetic..what a stuffing great big rabble of poo!!!!
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37 points down at half time...saw this coming.....we are pathetic..what a stuffing great big rabble of poo!!!!
All three games so far, we've been thrashed on the spread. When we have the ball, our opponents man up. When they have the ball, we have no concept of playing one-on-one.
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Why are we still playing down the line everytime? I thought dimma said that wasn't meant to happen after the carlton game. At the ground with a clear view from level 3 the dogs aren't even playing well. It's not like they're chopping us up. They're scoring from crappy clearances and fumbles.
If we stop coughing it up the dogs won't score again. Though I can't see that happening today. I'll give it a few mins into 3rd to see how we go to decide to go home.
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People spoke of our better depth this year, well based on the performance today it should need tested as they should drop about 10 players. Been watching Grigg and he doesn't know how to spell desperation, his efforts are poor at best. The senior players are unsighted, as usual things not going to plan and they just hibernate. King is finished, should have Lloyd in there. We are still screaming out for an x factor small forward, Titch Edwards has done absolutely nothing. The way its going it could be a repeat of the VFL result.
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Why are we still playing down the line everytime? I thought dimma said that wasn't meant to happen after the carlton game. At the ground with a clear view from level 3 the dogs aren't even playing well. It's not like they're chopping us up. They're scoring from crappy clearances and fumbles.
If we stop coughing it up the dogs won't score again. Though I can't see that happening today. I'll give it a few mins into 3rd to see how we go to decide to go home.
Here's a tip. Leave now, go home put some music on get a drink and get hammered...the RFC are doing the same!!!
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I'd love to know what our stuffing game plan is this year because it doesn't resemble anything like one that will win a game of AFL football. WTF has happened to our run I don't know but I do know that all season so far we have reverted to the worst of the Wallace years - prop, stop, chip sideways, then get rid of the ball with as much panic as possible. Wonder if Leppa leaving is having a much bigger impact than we know? Whatever it is, the rabble that are wearing the jumper so far this year wouldn't blow wind up the anus of those who were last year.
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Why are we still playing down the line everytime? I thought dimma said that wasn't meant to happen after the carlton game. At the ground with a clear view from level 3 the dogs aren't even playing well. It's not like they're chopping us up. They're scoring from crappy clearances and fumbles.
If we stop coughing it up the dogs won't score again. Though I can't see that happening today. I'll give it a few mins into 3rd to see how we go to decide to go home.
Here's a tip. Leave now, go home put some music on get a drink and get hammered...the RFC are doing the same!!!
The second half will show if we have any on-field leaders and if the rest of the team has any heart.
Both Kingy and Newy look finished.
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Why are we still playing down the line everytime? I thought dimma said that wasn't meant to happen after the carlton game. At the ground with a clear view from level 3 the dogs aren't even playing well. It's not like they're chopping us up. They're scoring from crappy clearances and fumbles.
If we stop coughing it up the dogs won't score again. Though I can't see that happening today. I'll give it a few mins into 3rd to see how we go to decide to go home.
Here's a tip. Leave now, go home put some music on get a drink and get hammered...the RFC are doing the same!!!
:lol I nearly left in the second but after train stuff ups that turned a 20min trip into an hour I just couldn't be buggered yet. Don't mind leaving early though. Will get a feed and beat the rush ;D
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Other coaches have worked out Hardwicks game plan and he doesnt seem to have taught the players a plan B. Very disappointing. Today is literally the end of our season if we lose and a first nail in the Hardwick rebuild of the Richmond FC. To that end, I dont blame him entirely - when you only ever recruit average failed players from other clubs you cant and shouldnt expect much. Moneyball doesnt work in AFL footy.
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Is cotchin in danger of doing anything?
It's a team game. The Dogs are able to contain his influence because no other Tiger is protecting him or stepping up to help out. It sums it up when Cotch in a BP kicks to Jacko then Cotch has to run on to get Jacko's pass and then they repeat the passing again between themselves. Where is everyone else?
It might help if each Tiger is accountable for their direct opponent. Jong has kicked two on Grigg while tagging Grigg.
Then add our forwards who have done nothing even defensively. Murphy has had 11 kicks at 100%. Anyone care to put some pressure on him.
The Dogs have got Roughead running around with one-arm yet he's doing more for his team than any of our talls are with two good arms.
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Go have a look at the disposals and efficiency of their top 10 against ours....they are just smashing us...its really bad actually. We have absolutely no chance in hell of beating them if this trend continues.
Actually we wont stuffing beat anyone.. :banghead
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Other coaches have worked out Hardwicks game plan and he doesnt seem to have taught the players a plan B. Very disappointing. Today is literally the end of our season if we lose and a first nail in the Hardwick rebuild of the Richmond FC. To that end, I dont blame him entirely - when you only ever recruit average failed players from other clubs you cant and shouldnt expect much. Moneyball doesnt work in AFL footy.
Tend to disagree, Ramps. Plan B is to stop running, bomb it along the boundary line, cause a stoppage, lose it and watch the opposition run down the ground and score.
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We never used to play long contested ball down the line. Why now? Dimma said last week it's not the plan. Players on the field need to pull their fingers out. Not the coaches fault the players are too stupid to follow instruction.
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Spot on ramps, we've been worked out, even the doggies are getting in behind our 'zone'. I was angry dirt 2 weeks, not today not surprised at all.
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but he's the one playing these knobs. Our players are not running, there looking around like a bunch of whores working the streets looking for a customer. We're poohouse and we dont deserve to win any games if we play poo footy like we are today.
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Why are we still playing down the line everytime? I thought dimma said that wasn't meant to happen after the carlton game. At the ground with a clear view from level 3 the dogs aren't even playing well. It's not like they're chopping us up. They're scoring from crappy clearances and fumbles.
If we stop coughing it up the dogs won't score again. Though I can't see that happening today. I'll give it a few mins into 3rd to see how we go to decide to go home.
Here's a tip. Leave now, go home put some music on get a drink and get hammered...the RFC are doing the same!!!
The second half will show if we have any on-field leaders and if the rest of the team has any heart.
Both Kingy and Newy look finished.
Newman was finished end of 2012 why is he still playing? because he is a good guy? cant believe he still gets a game :-\
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Cotchin to Thomas to Jack unselfishly to TV 5m out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 28
WB 60
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We're abt to kick a goal but even then the play went cotch to Martin handball and dish off to Thomas who kicks it ffs, get it right and think guys
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Goal to Vicks from Jack!!!
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Jacko off and being tested for concussion.
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Thomas may have just earned himself a holiday for a sling tackle on Griffen
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Thomas a chance of being reported for that given the new rules. Mind you if it sparks us up then it'll be worth it.
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Thomas a chance of being reported for that given the new rules. Mind you if it sparks us up then it'll be worth it.
At least he showed some intent. More than the rest of them have done. Mind you Griff has competed well at times so he has been ok.
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And again on the turnover...they have a shot, no intensity from us.
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Houli from the centre and Jack takes a one-handed screamer :clapping. Finds Cotch 46m out. Need this capitano ....... misses.
29 - 62
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Goal to Gordon :gotigers
Rich 35
WB 62
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We are rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrubish
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5 more goals to go... :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Soft one back :banghead
35 - 68
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Yep and this will go on all day....
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5 more goals to go... :whistle :whistle :whistle
Shot of Dimma talking on the phone with eyes closed .... his season is ebbing away fast.
By the way, is TV still on the ground?
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is it just me or have we had like one advantage called to their 20 free kicks since the first quarter?
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Gordo did well, to Petterd off to Kingy 46m out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 41
WB 68
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is it just me or have we had like one advantage called to their 20 free kicks since the first quarter?
1 free since 1/4 time to their 12. We were up 10-2 and now it's 11-14.
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King goal, but we cannot afford to carry him any longer.
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Every week --- where are our crumbers up forward? :banghead
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Season over
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Every week --- where are our crumbers up forward? :banghead
Want to beat the Tigers? Just man up when we have the ball. Hopeless!
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Thank you Grigg ::).
Game over. 41 - 75.
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Dusty to Jack 35m out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 47
WB 75
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The Commissioner has done a couple of nice things ....
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Martin to Riewold on the lead, heard that hundreds of times last year and stuff all this year....result..GOAL!!!!!!
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Cotch out of the centre to Jack in the pocket 20m out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 53
WB 75
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Dusty out of centre. Jack held but no free?
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Now Cotch to Jack...FFS, are YOU LEARNING ANYTHING DAMIEN????????????????????????????????????
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Jacko to Astbury to Ellis to TV on 50m. Quickly to the top of the square. Free to Petterd. Goal :gotigers :gotigers
Rich 60
WB 75
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.4 3.4 9.6-60
W.Bulldogs 5.4 9.5 11.9-75
Goals: Riewoldt 2, Gordon, Petterd, Cotchin, Martin, King, Vickery, Griffiths.
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Would love to get up here but I am not sure we have it in us.... :pray
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Now, we need to Doggies to start to panic and our mids to go in hard. Need Thomas to whack another one or two of them.
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Now we got a game on, who wants a one sided thrashing when you can have a heart stopper.....
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I'm sure some would prefer us to lose so they can peddle their poo agendas
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Doggies are coming off a 6 day break compared to our 9 ....is that something to hang our hat on ?
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Chaplin is killing us with his kicking, 30 secs to go and he short passes straight to an opposition defender, long to the goal square, any halfwit would know that :banghead.
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First goal is the key. Get it under 10 and see if we can put them under pressure; they score and it's out over 20 again. So the Dogs are still favourites to win.
The question win or lose from here is where was that workrate and contested footy in the first half?
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King has knee problems.
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Doggies are coming off a 6 day break compared to our 9 ....is that something to hang our hat on ?
True but we have been one down with Flossy being subbed off early.
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Jacko lucky and Jack marks. Goal :gotigers
Rich 66
WB 75
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Take it doggies
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Jack goal!
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Jacko goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll :gotigers
Rich 72
WB 75
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:gotigers....... :clapping :clapping :clapping
Hahaha, never will I doubt again if we win this....IF.
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Dumb Kingy.
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Bugger!
72 - 81
Kingy dropping the mark and then getting caught holding the ball leading the head caused that.,
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:banghead :banghead
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Got what it deserved. Put the whistles away you idiots.
72 - 82
Oh for gawd sake hit a target from the kick-ins.
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Titch has done nothing.
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We get within less than a kick going long quickly and direct and then all of a sudden we go back to chip chip chip turnover crap :banghead
72 - 88
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Oh well, didn't or don't deserve to win it...really didn't turn up today at all. We cant keep doing this, its not acceptable at this level!!!
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BT - "No ground level assistance from the Tigers"
That's a weekly occurrence BT.
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Vickery marks in the pocket. Goal :gotigers
Rich 78
WB 88
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Cotch free in the centre and hits up Dusty 52m out and he finds Gordon 45m out on a tough angle. OOTF.
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TV rucks and snaps a point.
79 - 88
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Conca finds Griffiths on 50m. Goal :gotigers
Rich 85
WB 88
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GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFF! I stuffing love it when he goes the big HOOOF
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I wont believe it if we win.. :lol
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Benny G has officially arrived
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Dumb Vickery. 3rd man in the ruck 50m out from the Dogs goal and gives away a free which sets up a shot at goal.
85 - 94
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Big ruck and rove by big O, Jack marks in the forward line
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Big O out of the centre. Jack marks 45m out. Point.
86 - 94
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Jack always struggles to kick goals from beyond 40m.
Crowd: 31k
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Grigg pulls it back to 2 points
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Titch good smother. Grigg runs in and goals :gotigers
Rich 92
WB 94
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Heart medicine anyone?
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We just can't win that centre clearance when we get within a kick. Ball back in the Dogs forward line.
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How long left??
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Conca two bounces and Jack marks. Here we go.
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk :gotigers :gotigers
Rich 98
WB 94
3.5 mins left WAT.
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Concs put it on Jacks tit in the forward line.......we are in front!
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Win the clearance ffs!!
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NO WAY..........................FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK :gotigers :gotigers
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:banghead
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WTF was Ellis thinking?
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Play the stuffing ball not the MAN Ellis
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That could of cost us!!!
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We just had to hold it in on the wing and not let it out the back. Another dumb goal to give away.
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Throw-in pocket. 49 secs to go.
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It's over. Dogs have the ball with 20 secs to go.
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I hate you Damien
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F u richmond
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Next week the bulldogs will be absolutely shellacked and ...so will we lol
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I'm over this poo we are weak as poo
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I hate people saying ' season over' 'sack the coach' but I genuinely think this is a clear sign that Damien Stuffwick cannot coach at the level we as a club want to be at. He has done a good job getting us to where we are at, but he wont take us any further. We are 1-2 with games against Collingwood, Geelong and Hawthorn coming up. Season is looking grim.
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Will be 1-5. Season over
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stuffin vickery u dumb stuffing flog, dimma better drop this stuffing wanker!!!!
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I am effing ropable with this mob.
I dont like it and I have the right to say it
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We just cant afford to drop games like this, we cant let ourselves get into 38 point down positions against these sides and expect to win.
Are we a top 8 side or a flash in the pan???
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We had a 9 day break vs a 6 day break coming off a trip to Subiaco.
What an absolute joke. Morris was our 4th highest possession getter. Our back pocket. Pathetic.
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We just cant afford to drop games like this, we cant let ourselves get into 38 point down positions against these sides and expect to win.
Are we a top 8 side or a flash in the pan???
Just another competative middle order side who doesnt have enough good young players coming on to take us to the next level.
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stuffin vickery u dumb stuffing flog, dimma better drop this stuffing wanker!!!!
We don't have a Plan B when the other team plays one-on-one. It's as if the plan is to stand still when someone picks you up.
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You hit the front, have the ball in your forward half and then leave the back half open gifting them a goal. Where were the numbers behind the ball?
You have a throw-in in the pocket with 49 secs to go and you let the opposition gain clear possession and maintain possession.
Just frustrating our ground level forward line play is non-existent every single week :banghead.
But we only have ourselves to blame when you give that pathetic non-effort in that first half. All three games so far we've played at most half a game of footy and half bottom 4 soft rubbish.
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horsepoo. Just horsepoo.
We shouldnt have to put up with this :banghead
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We are just not good enough, that simple.
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Said it after the scum game, every team will now play one on one against us, our game plan is too one dimensional, on today's evidence we couldn't beat the Dees, long season ahead unfortunately and I was positive before the season. Too many passengers at the moment and Hardwick now can't play favourites, plenty of major decisions to be made at the selection table, including injuries at least 5 changes.
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Absolutely Hilarious.
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We just cant afford to drop games like this, we cant let ourselves get into 38 point down positions against these sides and expect to win.
Are we a top 8 side or a flash in the pan???
Just another competative middle order side who doesnt have enough good young players coming on to take us to the next level.
But how, we have been rebuilding for stuffing years, we have the best centerline in the comp or there about, we have a very decent forward line (when they are played in their correct positions)....what's gone wrong????
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>:(
Soft between the ears
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Lol
Pathetic
Edwards look away handball when we were at chf ultimately cost us the final goal (that and Ellis pooting himself).
Who will dimma drop? Probably Gordon and griffiths :lol
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Said it after the scum game, every team will now play one on one against us, our game plan is too one dimensional, on today's evidence we couldn't beat the Dees, long season ahead unfortunately and I was positive before the season. Too many passengers at the moment and Hardwick now can't play favourites, plenty of major decisions to be made at the selection table, including injuries at least 5 changes.
Not too many putting up their hands in the twos. Done by over 100 points today.
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>:(
Soft between the ears
That and we don't come out firing, we tend to ease our way into a game, the Dogs and the Hawks come out like they were halfway through a game...absolutely on fire...
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We just cant afford to drop games like this, we cant let ourselves get into 38 point down positions against these sides and expect to win.
Are we a top 8 side or a flash in the pan???
Just another competative middle order side who doesnt have enough good young players coming on to take us to the next level.
But how, we have been rebuilding for stuffing years, we have the best centerline in the comp or there about, we have a very decent forward line (when they are played in their correct positions)....what's gone wrong????
Overrated list.
You recruit competitors and not skill and speed, and you end up with a competative team, nothing else.
Ahhhhh stuff it im too angry to think
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Absolutely Hilarious.
Feel free to elaborate for the 'glass half full' site members
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Footscray are stuffen rubbish club and they best the RFC.
LMAO.
Sack Hardwick
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We didn't beat the Bulldogs for 7 years -2005-12.
Now after stringing three victories in a row they are beating us again.
Pathetic .
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They deserved to win today. they played better than us. we also got more than fair go from the umps at various stages. Truth is we were complete poo in the first half and you cant win games of footy playing for 1 and half quarters. Not us anyway. The problem we have amongst the many is if we dont win the contested footy we lose the game. We have no idea what to do when we dont have the ball. Hardwick needs to do something or this will be his last coaching job.
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Laughable we a as a club didn't even to be in the game after being 6 goals down at halftime.Sorry to say Dimmas game plan is easy for clubs to pick up.
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Hardwick reminds me of Neale Daniher. Good enough to keep a club interested for a few years but it's unlikely other clubs would rate him as highly as we do.
Not saying we are wrong although today wasn't his best day but I'd doubt anyone would pick him up as a senior coach once we are done with him.
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Newy post-match on 3aw:
* You can't give a six goal lead to any side in the comp. Our key indicators were down across the board. The Dogs were impressive but our ball movement was slow and we allowed them to get numbers behind the ball. Good comeback but our fault we left it too late.
* It's a tale of two halves at the minute. There is an element of maturity to that but we should be better than that now. So we'll go through it again. We weren't playing our style at all in the first half. Our forwards were up against 3 opponents and then the Dogs would switch it. Disposal efficiency was well down as well in the first half. The way we moved the ball really hurt Jack and Vickery. Once we moved the ball on quickly after half-time, Jack and Vickery came into the game.
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Newy post-match on 3aw:
* You can't give a six goal lead to any side in the comp. Our key indicators were down across the board. The Dogs were impressive but our ball movement was slow and we allowed them to get numbers behind the ball. Good comeback but our fault we left it too late.
* It's a tale of two halves at the minute. There is an element of maturity to that but we should be better than that now. So we'll go through it again. We weren't playing our style at all in the first half. Our forwards were up against 3 opponents and then the Dogs would switch it. Disposal efficiency was well down as well in the first half. The way we moved the ball really hurt Jack and Vickery. Once we moved the ball on quickly after half-time, Jack and Vickery came into the game.
If I hear that poo one more time.... :banghead
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"Our key indicators were down across the board."
Yeh, thanks for that, TRON !!
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Put simply hardwick is not up to it on match day. Love what he has done for the club but tactically he is no good. Time to face facts
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Nowhere! Newman should retire and Chaplin is overrated by our supporters.
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Lets get serious, when has Newman ever stood up? Average player in an average team
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Lets get serious, when has Newman ever stood up? Average player in an average team
Been sayin it for years, along with a shedload of fellow supportrrs, but our coach keeps talking him up most weeks
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He has not got the courage required to make the hard and the right call on Newman and in the end, it might just be his downfall as coach.
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Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Just happy to run out, have a bit of a go at times, collect paychecks.
Neither will be hurting that much tonight. Only in a superficial way
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
I suppose when you get as much possession as Cotch in heavy traffic it is easy to focus on one bad example
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
I suppose when you get as much possession as Cotch in heavy traffic it is easy to focus on one bad example
Give you a couple of more if you want ;D
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
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Very harsh WP, can't agree at all. He can walk off with his head held high. No one is a machine, everyone commits errors its what they brought overall and overall he was far and away our best
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
:clapping
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Still believe that out of all the most experienced players in all teams ours have the least influence in a game when the chips are down. Harvey last week single handedly pulled the Roos over the line against the dogs, if Cotch isn't busting a gut who else is there, Newman has so little influence in games its ridiculous, Edwards just sits back and has the occasional cameo. I think they need to have a good hard look at themselves and ask whether they deserve to really be there.
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We Came,
We saw,
We watched them kick our arse.
FFS Tigers, GO TO stuffING WIN, not just turn up expexting it :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
That is all That I will even bother to say about this mess!
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
Yep, ridiculous. Some people really need to get a stuffing clue. Would've lost by 12 goals had he not been there. Expected to do everything on his own.
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
Yep, ridiculous. Some people really need to get a stuffing clue. Would've lost by 12 goals had he not been there. Expected to do everything on his own.
yep and yet praises Tim Clarke efforts in the reserves
Wake up WP you have had a terrible run lately
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Wasn't going to mention it but after that display WGAF.
Was out last Saturday night and walked into The Bridge Hotel to see half our side drinking. I left near on 2am and most were still there having a half decent crack. Now I'm no prude and played a lot of local footy and going out Saturday night with the boys was pretty standard, but it wasn't AFL footy and after that poo last week against the Blues I wouldn't think you would have much to celebrate. I know we won but it left more like a lose. And after our farcical first half today I cannot help but think most of our side are selfish heros that think they are better than they really are.
I couldn't get there today, I had my little one for the afternoon but I'm glad I didn't waste my time.
This side needs a fresh attitude and some fresh faces, this current 22 have got us about as far as it's going to. Be a man Dimma and drop some of your favourites. We need an injection of youth who want to chase and tackle. I would rather watch us loose with some young kids who maybe are not quite there yet then watch lazy, one way runners that refuse to get involved in the contest.
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Agree.
Get a grip Hardwit.
Bleed kids over duds
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Wasn't going to mention it but after that display WGAF.
Was out last Saturday night and walked into The Bridge Hotel to see half our side drinking. I left near on 2am and most were still there having a half decent crack. Now I'm no prude and played a lot of local footy and going out Saturday night with the boys was pretty standard, but it wasn't AFL footy and after that poo last week against the Blues I wouldn't think you wouldn't have much to celebrate. I know we won but it left more like a lose. And after our farcical first half today I cannot help but think most of our side are selfish heros that think they are better than they really are.
I couldn't get there today, I had my little one for the afternoon but I'm glad I didn't waste my time.
This side needs a fresh attitude and some fresh faces, this current 22 have got us about as far as it's going to. Be a man Dimma and drop some of your favourites. We need an injection of youth who want to chase and tackle. I would rather watch us loose with some young kids who maybe are not quite there yet then watch lazy, one way runners that refuse to get involved in the contest.
here here well said tone.
i still believe for the club to go forward we may have to take a small step backwards, when they show enough we need to get games into the likes of mcbean,arnot, mcintosh,lennon find out what lloyd and helbig have to offer and see where elton is at plus others. its always been about development and getting games into the younger players.
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
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yeah but almost all the captains you mentioned are about 30 years old...give cotch some more time to grow into the role...
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yeah but almost all the captains you mentioned are about 30 years old...give cotch some more time to grow into the role...
Correct. And Selwood captains a former premiership team.
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Problem is the players have been taught to be unselfish. Why inhibit Dusty for instance from 50 to go short into a pocket when his natural instinct is to run carry and kick long. Basically not using gis assets. Yet we can be selfish in other areas leaving too much to too few. When we are hot Jack needs to sit close to goal no ifs or butts.
Vickery is not a footballers ahole. Enough of the excuses if in his 6th season he cannot make consistent positive impact. Griff has gone past him IMHO. Has been great at both ends in all 3 games.
We play with no flair because we are taught that way. Whilst we were rebuilding it was nice to see our blokes showcase their talent whereas to me Dimma has instilled a safe brand of football that inhibits natural flair and ability to grab a game from the scruff of the neck.
Furthermore the continual selections of Newman and Grigg as two examples are horrific. Grigg's turnover in the third just as we were mounting a comeback missing a target from 20 was football suicide. Kids like Gordo come in and do the right thing so I was happy with the kid.
Titch is another who time and time again just does not do enough. The quality of a player is based on how you can play also when the chips are down. We just have very few and to me losing Vlas just compounded this.
It seems the brand of footy we are playing is taking us backwards from where we were in 2012 . Sure we lost close games but with natural progression, maturity and development you would expect that we would have the ability to rectify this 2 years on.
The other argument for the naysayers depending on where you sit is we have reached a stage of our development were growth has plateued and over the next few months based on performance will show whether we peaked in 2013 or there is plenty of growth left in this group. Which means that this year remains consolidating in the 8 and next year 2016 we are looking for the ultimate prize. Yet I see that Nought, West Coast, Essendon, Gold Coast who didn't play finals last year are already ahead of us this year at this stage.
Lamentably though I feel that Dimma has done well upto now but how good a coach he is depends on whether we can make top 4 and challenge and sadly I don't think he can given the amount of kids and talent he has at his disposal. We need to turn over blokes like Grigg, Edwards, Newman plus a few more whether by trade or just natural attrition to further upgrade the list.
Leaders need to stand up 2010-12 were the years were we had reasons in our failures. Failure in 2014 is not an option and I am hoping last year was not a tokenistic finals series appearance that then in the subsequent years plunged the club into disarray.
One might also start to question whether the timing of Demetriou's resignation and the possible recruitment of Benny Gale to the AFL top job has something to do with any instability?
As for Brando I can forgive him but boy he owes his mates and us over the next few weeks.
As for the team they should never have been in that position in the first place.
I'm angry and upset over the result but life goes on.
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
Cotch had leadership. 2012 he was massive. Just has not recaptured the same form and his skills have slid slightly too. Mentally not the same player IMHO.
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Fact is should have a had shot at goal, shouldn't have looked to pass it to anyone, he should have kicked it.
Very harsh WP, can't agree at all. He can walk off with his head held high. No one is a machine, everyone commits errors its what they brought overall and overall he was far and away our best
Did I say his entire game terrible? Nope don't think I did. You lauded his efforts in the first half, I raised the issue of leadership and where he made IMV decisions that were poor as the captain and as a result thought his first half was average. The 3 missed set shots were costly too
We have problems with leadership. We have Chaplin newly elected to leadership group who's input is as leader on field is currently bordering on non existent. Our former captain is giving us zippo, Jacko was good in patches but was struggling to run out the game.
Despite what Hardwick said at his presser during the week where he praised our leaders for their efforts against Carlton the facts remain they went missing last week and for the first half this week they MIA again. It continues to be an issue just like it was last year and has been this year.
Yep, ridiculous. Some people really need to get a stuffing clue. Would've lost by 12 goals had he not been there. Expected to do everything on his own.
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
I don't have a clue because I have different opinion to you? Last time I checked forums were about opinions.
Will repeat No where have I said he was terrible for the entire game but there were a couple crucial stages where he needed to make a statement and he didn't.
Guarantee in the days of Newman being captain a lot of folks on here would be doing a head gasket and bagging him over the things I've mentioned.
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Captain Clanger. Does a couple of flashy things but no where to be seen once the chips are down. Would love a bloke like Watson, Judd or Hodge who when the going gets tough says move over boys, I've got this. Jack kicking 4 with a hanger in the second half is about as close as we got to it today.
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It's ok WP, apparently we are developing the stuff out of our VFL players regardless of the fact that they were beaten today by 117 points... ;D
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Fact is should have a had shot at goal, shouldn't have looked to pass it to anyone, he should have kicked it.
Very harsh WP, can't agree at all. He can walk off with his head held high. No one is a machine, everyone commits errors its what they brought overall and overall he was far and away our best
Did I say his entire game terrible? Nope don't think I did. You lauded his efforts in the first half, I raised the issue of leadership and where he made IMV decisions that were poor as the captain and as a result thought his first half was average. The 3 missed set shots were costly too
We have problems with leadership. We have Chaplin newly elected to leadership group who's input is as leader on field is currently bordering on non existent. Our former captain is giving us zippo, Jacko was good in patches but was struggling to run out the game.
Despite what Hardwick said at his presser during the week where he praised our leaders for their efforts against Carlton the facts remain they went missing last week and for the first half this week they MIA again. It continues to be an issue just like it was last year and has been this year.
Yep, ridiculous. Some people really need to get a stuffing clue. Would've lost by 12 goals had he not been there. Expected to do everything on his own.
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
I don't have a clue because I have different opinion to you? Last time I checked forums were about opinions.
Will repeat No where have I said he was terrible for the entire game but there were a couple crucial stages where he needed to make a statement and he didn't.
Guarantee in the days of Newman being captain a lot of folks on here would be doing a head gasket and bagging him over the things I've mentioned.
You didn't say his whole game was terrible but what you're doing is nit picking. Ridiculous to be having a crack regardless imo. We weren't 40 points down bc of these 1 or 2 incidents, there was so so SO much more putrid things going on that to isolate and even bother mentioning it seems petty and OTT. 28 touches, 11 clearances and without him we would've been spanked by a whole lot more. You'd think people would be happy to leave it at that - but obviously not.. There are bigger problems.
BTW I saw one passage of play with GAJ in tonights game where he was on the boundary and passed it instead of taking a shot. Shocking play by the captain, lets isolate that a couple of other grubbed kicks instead of the fact he was their best player :rollin
And Newman was never half the player cotch is - hence why most fans barring you and dwaino, will allow for the occasional error. Has built up plenty of brownie points
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It's ok WP, apparently we are developing the stuff out of our VFL players regardless of the fact that they were beaten today by 117 points... ;D
We're training for the Gourdis cup between us and Coburg.
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
Agree with you re Chaplin & Newman
But to see your captain, your leader weave through traffic and 35-40 metres out and then instead of having a shot he tries a dink pass that goes over someone's head :banghead :banghead sorry but that ain't leadership.
Again our lack of leadership in the first half was deplorable
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
Yep, ridiculous. Some people really need to get a stuffing clue. Would've lost by 12 goals had he not been there. Expected to do everything on his own.
yep and yet praises Tim Clarke efforts in the reserves
Wake up WP you have had a terrible run lately
well said you 2
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Problem is the players have been taught to be unselfish. Why inhibit Dusty for instance from 50 to go short into a pocket when his natural instinct is to run carry and kick long. Basically not using gis assets. Yet we can be selfish in other areas leaving too much to too few. When we are hot Jack needs to sit close to goal no ifs or butts.
Vickery is not a footballers ahole. Enough of the excuses if in his 6th season he cannot make consistent positive impact. Griff has gone past him IMHO. Has been great at both ends in all 3 games.
We play with no flair because we are taught that way. Whilst we were rebuilding it was nice to see our blokes showcase their talent whereas to me Dimma has instilled a safe brand of football that inhibits natural flair and ability to grab a game from the scruff of the neck.
Furthermore the continual selections of Newman and Grigg as two examples are horrific. Grigg's turnover in the third just as we were mounting a comeback missing a target from 20 was football suicide. Kids like Gordo come in and do the right thing so I was happy with the kid.
Titch is another who time and time again just does not do enough. The quality of a player is based on how you can play also when the chips are down. We just have very few and to me losing Vlas just compounded this.
It seems the brand of footy we are playing is taking us backwards from where we were in 2012 . Sure we lost close games but with natural progression, maturity and development you would expect that we would have the ability to rectify this 2 years on.
The other argument for the naysayers depending on where you sit is we have reached a stage of our development were growth has plateued and over the next few months based on performance will show whether we peaked in 2013 or there is plenty of growth left in this group. Which means that this year remains consolidating in the 8 and next year 2016 we are looking for the ultimate prize. Yet I see that Nought, West Coast, Essendon, Gold Coast who didn't play finals last year are already ahead of us this year at this stage.
Lamentably though I feel that Dimma has done well upto now but how good a coach he is depends on whether we can make top 4 and challenge and sadly I don't think he can given the amount of kids and talent he has at his disposal. We need to turn over blokes like Grigg, Edwards, Newman plus a few more whether by trade or just natural attrition to further upgrade the list.
Leaders need to stand up 2010-12 were the years were we had reasons in our failures. Failure in 2014 is not an option and I am hoping last year was not a tokenistic finals series appearance that then in the subsequent years plunged the club into disarray.
One might also start to question whether the timing of Demetriou's resignation and the possible recruitment of Benny Gale to the AFL top job has something to do with any instability?
As for Brando I can forgive him but boy he owes his mates and us over the next few weeks.
As for the team they should never have been in that position in the first place.
I'm angry and upset over the result but life goes on.
Great post Don
But you're very forgiving
Not in the mood for forgiving Ellis, his refusal to go the mark was ..well.... Soft...happened right in front of me..was an easy chest mark if .not going to go there.... cost us the game. That and our happy handball fetish on the half forward line when we hit the front when we should have been locking down the play and forcing stoppages
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Problem is the players have been taught to be unselfish. Why inhibit Dusty for instance from 50 to go short into a pocket when his natural instinct is to run carry and kick long. Basically not using gis assets. Yet we can be selfish in other areas leaving too much to too few. When we are hot Jack needs to sit close to goal no ifs or butts.
Vickery is not a footballers ahole. Enough of the excuses if in his 6th season he cannot make consistent positive impact. Griff has gone past him IMHO. Has been great at both ends in all 3 games.
We play with no flair because we are taught that way. Whilst we were rebuilding it was nice to see our blokes showcase their talent whereas to me Dimma has instilled a safe brand of football that inhibits natural flair and ability to grab a game from the scruff of the neck.
Furthermore the continual selections of Newman and Grigg as two examples are horrific. Grigg's turnover in the third just as we were mounting a comeback missing a target from 20 was football suicide. Kids like Gordo come in and do the right thing so I was happy with the kid.
Titch is another who time and time again just does not do enough. The quality of a player is based on how you can play also when the chips are down. We just have very few and to me losing Vlas just compounded this.
It seems the brand of footy we are playing is taking us backwards from where we were in 2012 . Sure we lost close games but with natural progression, maturity and development you would expect that we would have the ability to rectify this 2 years on.
The other argument for the naysayers depending on where you sit is we have reached a stage of our development were growth has plateued and over the next few months based on performance will show whether we peaked in 2013 or there is plenty of growth left in this group. Which means that this year remains consolidating in the 8 and next year 2016 we are looking for the ultimate prize. Yet I see that Nought, West Coast, Essendon, Gold Coast who didn't play finals last year are already ahead of us this year at this stage.
Lamentably though I feel that Dimma has done well upto now but how good a coach he is depends on whether we can make top 4 and challenge and sadly I don't think he can given the amount of kids and talent he has at his disposal. We need to turn over blokes like Grigg, Edwards, Newman plus a few more whether by trade or just natural attrition to further upgrade the list.
Leaders need to stand up 2010-12 were the years were we had reasons in our failures. Failure in 2014 is not an option and I am hoping last year was not a tokenistic finals series appearance that then in the subsequent years plunged the club into disarray.
One might also start to question whether the timing of Demetriou's resignation and the possible recruitment of Benny Gale to the AFL top job has something to do with any instability?
As for Brando I can forgive him but boy he owes his mates and us over the next few weeks.
As for the team they should never have been in that position in the first place.
I'm angry and upset over the result but life goes on.
Good to see you posting again :thumbsup
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Newman should not be spoken off in the same breath as that cotch
Embarrassing that his still on our list and getting paid money for his last 3 yrs
WP you were having a dip at the only senior player who played his guts out today yet in other chats praise the work of one T Clarke
That says to me your opinion is way off the mark
Laughing my arse off yeah jack kicked 4 but the game was lost in the first half and where was he there and where was cotch
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Problem is the players have been taught to be unselfish. Why inhibit Dusty for instance from 50 to go short into a pocket when his natural instinct is to run carry and kick long. Basically not using gis assets. Yet we can be selfish in other areas leaving too much to too few. When we are hot Jack needs to sit close to goal no ifs or butts.
Vickery is not a footballers ahole. Enough of the excuses if in his 6th season he cannot make consistent positive impact. Griff has gone past him IMHO. Has been great at both ends in all 3 games.
We play with no flair because we are taught that way. Whilst we were rebuilding it was nice to see our blokes showcase their talent whereas to me Dimma has instilled a safe brand of football that inhibits natural flair and ability to grab a game from the scruff of the neck.
Furthermore the continual selections of Newman and Grigg as two examples are horrific. Grigg's turnover in the third just as we were mounting a comeback missing a target from 20 was football suicide. Kids like Gordo come in and do the right thing so I was happy with the kid.
Titch is another who time and time again just does not do enough. The quality of a player is based on how you can play also when the chips are down. We just have very few and to me losing Vlas just compounded this.
It seems the brand of footy we are playing is taking us backwards from where we were in 2012 . Sure we lost close games but with natural progression, maturity and development you would expect that we would have the ability to rectify this 2 years on.
The other argument for the naysayers depending on where you sit is we have reached a stage of our development were growth has plateued and over the next few months based on performance will show whether we peaked in 2013 or there is plenty of growth left in this group. Which means that this year remains consolidating in the 8 and next year 2016 we are looking for the ultimate prize. Yet I see that Nought, West Coast, Essendon, Gold Coast who didn't play finals last year are already ahead of us this year at this stage.
Lamentably though I feel that Dimma has done well upto now but how good a coach he is depends on whether we can make top 4 and challenge and sadly I don't think he can given the amount of kids and talent he has at his disposal. We need to turn over blokes like Grigg, Edwards, Newman plus a few more whether by trade or just natural attrition to further upgrade the list.
Leaders need to stand up 2010-12 were the years were we had reasons in our failures. Failure in 2014 is not an option and I am hoping last year was not a tokenistic finals series appearance that then in the subsequent years plunged the club into disarray.
One might also start to question whether the timing of Demetriou's resignation and the possible recruitment of Benny Gale to the AFL top job has something to do with any instability?
As for Brando I can forgive him but boy he owes his mates and us over the next few weeks.
As for the team they should never have been in that position in the first place.
I'm angry and upset over the result but life goes on.
Good to see you posting again :thumbsup
Thanks pal. Nothing like the footy to bring us to the boil. :thumbsupProblem is the players have been taught to be unselfish. Why inhibit Dusty for instance from 50 to go short into a pocket when his natural instinct is to run carry and kick long. Basically not using gis assets. Yet we can be selfish in other areas leaving too much to too few. When we are hot Jack needs to sit close to goal no ifs or butts.
Vickery is not a footballers ahole. Enough of the excuses if in his 6th season he cannot make consistent positive impact. Griff has gone past him IMHO. Has been great at both ends in all 3 games.
We play with no flair because we are taught that way. Whilst we were rebuilding it was nice to see our blokes showcase their talent whereas to me Dimma has instilled a safe brand of football that inhibits natural flair and ability to grab a game from the scruff of the neck.
Furthermore the continual selections of Newman and Grigg as two examples are horrific. Grigg's turnover in the third just as we were mounting a comeback missing a target from 20 was football suicide. Kids like Gordo come in and do the right thing so I was happy with the kid.
Titch is another who time and time again just does not do enough. The quality of a player is based on how you can play also when the chips are down. We just have very few and to me losing Vlas just compounded this.
It seems the brand of footy we are playing is taking us backwards from where we were in 2012 . Sure we lost close games but with natural progression, maturity and development you would expect that we would have the ability to rectify this 2 years on.
The other argument for the naysayers depending on where you sit is we have reached a stage of our development were growth has plateued and over the next few months based on performance will show whether we peaked in 2013 or there is plenty of growth left in this group. Which means that this year remains consolidating in the 8 and next year 2016 we are looking for the ultimate prize. Yet I see that Nought, West Coast, Essendon, Gold Coast who didn't play finals last year are already ahead of us this year at this stage.
Lamentably though I feel that Dimma has done well upto now but how good a coach he is depends on whether we can make top 4 and challenge and sadly I don't think he can given the amount of kids and talent he has at his disposal. We need to turn over blokes like Grigg, Edwards, Newman plus a few more whether by trade or just natural attrition to further upgrade the list.
Leaders need to stand up 2010-12 were the years were we had reasons in our failures. Failure in 2014 is not an option and I am hoping last year was not a tokenistic finals series appearance that then in the subsequent years plunged the club into disarray.
One might also start to question whether the timing of Demetriou's resignation and the possible recruitment of Benny Gale to the AFL top job has something to do with any instability?
As for Brando I can forgive him but boy he owes his mates and us over the next few weeks.
As for the team they should never have been in that position in the first place.
I'm angry and upset over the result but life goes on.
Great post Don
But you're very forgiving
Not in the mood for forgiving Ellis, his refusal to go the mark was ..well.... Soft...happened right in front of me..was an easy chest mark if .not going to go there.... cost us the game. That and our happy handball fetish on the half forward line when we hit the front when we should have been locking down the play and forcing stoppages
Yep agreed on the handballing and yes was sitting bottom level aisle 46 and Ellis was woeful there.
For me WP if the kid learns from this and never does that again then the lesson whilst being an expensive one as we know will be worth it. Can't do anything about that passage now other than Brando or anyone else ensuring they never let what happened today happens again.
All today means is we have to beat a Collingwood or Geelong in the next month to make up for today
Win one we don't expect to win.
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Fact is should have a had shot at goal, shouldn't have looked to pass it to anyone, he should have kicked it.
Very harsh WP, can't agree at all. He can walk off with his head held high. No one is a machine, everyone commits errors its what they brought overall and overall he was far and away our best
Did I say his entire game terrible? Nope don't think I did. You lauded his efforts in the first half, I raised the issue of leadership and where he made IMV decisions that were poor as the captain and as a result thought his first half was average. The 3 missed set shots were costly too
We have problems with leadership. We have Chaplin newly elected to leadership group who's input is as leader on field is currently bordering on non existent. Our former captain is giving us zippo, Jacko was good in patches but was struggling to run out the game.
Despite what Hardwick said at his presser during the week where he praised our leaders for their efforts against Carlton the facts remain they went missing last week and for the first half this week they MIA again. It continues to be an issue just like it was last year and has been this year.
Yep, ridiculous. Some people really need to get a stuffing clue. Would've lost by 12 goals had he not been there. Expected to do everything on his own.
give it a rest WP you got no idea what your talking about. He was the only senior player who stood up again.
I don't have a clue because I have different opinion to you? Last time I checked forums were about opinions.
Will repeat No where have I said he was terrible for the entire game but there were a couple crucial stages where he needed to make a statement and he didn't.
Guarantee in the days of Newman being captain a lot of folks on here would be doing a head gasket and bagging him over the things I've mentioned.
You didn't say his whole game was terrible but what you're doing is nit picking. Ridiculous to be having a crack regardless imo. We weren't 40 points down bc of these 1 or 2 incidents, there was so so SO much more putrid things going on that to isolate and even bother mentioning it seems petty and OTT. 28 touches, 11 clearances and without him we would've been spanked by a whole lot more. You'd think people would be happy to leave it at that - but obviously not.. There are bigger problems.
BTW I saw one passage of play with GAJ in tonights game where he was on the boundary and passed it instead of taking a shot. Shocking play by the captain, lets isolate that a couple of other grubbed kicks instead of the fact he was their best player :rollin
And Newman was never half the player cotch is - hence why most fans barring you and dwaino, will allow for the occasional error. Has built up plenty of brownie points
That's a good post, we watch Cotchs whole game but measure him up against the highlight reel of other captains
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You didn't say his whole game was terrible but what you're doing is nit picking. Ridiculous to be having a crack regardless imo. We weren't 40 points down bc of these 1 or 2 incidents, there was so so SO much more putrid things going on that to isolate and even bother mentioning it seems petty and OTT. 28 touches, 11 clearances and without him we would've been spanked by a whole lot more. You'd think people would be happy to leave it at that - but obviously not.. There are bigger problems.
BTW I saw one passage of play with GAJ in tonights game where he was on the boundary and passed it instead of taking a shot. Shocking play by the captain, lets isolate that a couple of other grubbed kicks instead of the fact he was their best player :rollin
And Newman was never half the player cotch is - hence why most fans barring you and dwaino, will allow for the occasional error. Has built up plenty of brownie points
Ok got it now.
I haven't got a clue because I dare to post an opinion that the majority doesn't agree with it. And we are not allowed to or shouldn't be critical of certain players. But ironically the same people who are having a whack at me tonight are some of the same folks who have been critical of Cotchin's little dinky kicks this year and last but that's OK and clearly not the same thing. People bag Lids for going missing in games, Jack for dummy spitting and that's OK right?
As I said got it now :thumbsup
But you what tony? You are right there are bigger problems and I just think outside of the usual suspects continually being gifted games that are not warranted our biggest problem right now is leadership and I am not talking about just Cotchin I man actually talking more about the other supposedly leaders around him ....
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Cotchin is a good leader but when Maric and Deledio isnt around we have nothing left in terms of leadership. The players who should be leaders have never stepped up and have in reality never been leaders.
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Yeah let's do that at the same age
Let's start with Watson as the guy was mentioned
the guy sheeds was gonna trade when he was complete and utter rubbish and supporters even hated gin
Not to mention a cheat
Wake up he can't do it by himself
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Cotchin is a good leader but when Maric and Deledio isnt around we have nothing left in terms of leadership. The players who should be leaders have never stepped up and have in reality never been leaders.
:yep
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Yeah let's do that at the same age
Let's start with Watson as the guy was mentioned
the guy sheeds was gonna trade when he was complete and utter rubbish and supporters even hated gin
Not to mention a cheat
Wake up he can't do it by himself
And nick Riewoldt, wtf captain cry baby and point kicker
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Yeah let's do that at the same age
Let's start with Watson as the guy was mentioned
the guy sheeds was gonna trade when he was complete and utter rubbish and supporters even hated gin
Not to mention a cheat
Wake up he can't do it by himself
And nick Riewoldt, wtf captain cry baby and point kicker
His bloody 31 and ur gonna compare him to cotch
Ur reaching pal
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Yep agreed on the handballing and yes was sitting bottom level aisle 46 and Ellis was woeful there.
For me WP if the kid learns from this and never does that again then the lesson whilst being an expensive one as we know will be worth it. Can't do anything about that passage now other than Brando or anyone else ensuring they never let what happened today happens again.
All today means is we have to beat a Collingwood or Geelong in the next month to make up for today
Win one we don't expect to win.
Yep was in Aisle 46 too.
Agree he needs to learn from it but he's done it a bit over time. It seems to be something he cannot completely out of his game
Newman should not be spoken off in the same breath as that cotch
Embarrassing that his still on our list and getting paid money for his last 3 yrs
WP you were having a dip at the only senior player who played his guts out today yet in other chats praise the work of one T Clarke
That says to me your opinion is way off the mark
Laughing my arse off yeah jack kicked 4 but the game was lost in the first half and where was he there and where was cotch
Fair enough you think my opinion is "off the mark". Have no problem with that Angus I really don't. But it doesn't mean I am not entitled to my opinion does it?
To be honest I thought the entire team was pathetic in the first half. With the coaches box even worse
2nd half was better but like Don said we should have never been in that position. What was dished up in the first half was the same rubbish we got in round 1. Not switched on to play: playing like the result was in the bank without even having to actually play.
Said it before we aren't good enough to take that mindset into any game
Now onto our VFL side. Let me make it clear 100+ point losses are not acceptable. Doesn't matter the level results like that are not acceptable.
What I have said and will continue to say is that results are not the focus of our VFL side, player development is. This is what people at the club have said. It isn't my opinion its what I heard come out of the mouths of people at the club at a number of functions. I am not sure where I have "praised" Tim Clarke. What I said after a Praccy game when people were upset with a loss and I think it was BJ who said Clark would soon be out of a job was that he wouldn't be because he was doing what he was supposed to be doing and that is focusing on development. I didnt say whether he was doing a good job. I just stated what I knew his main job was and again this was based on what I'd been told/heard. I also said that if people are only going to be focusing on the results of the VFL side then they were likely going to be very disappointed.
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No hope of finals.
Get on with your lives this year.
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No stand alone AFL reserves side should be beaten by 100 points in any game any time! Development maybe their focus over winning but being beaten by a team in a rebuild phase means something or someone isn't doing a great job! Considering our depth is supposed to be deeper this year after only taking one kid in the ND.
Club is standing still while others walk on by
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No stand alone AFL reserves side should be beaten by 100 points in any game any time! Development maybe their focus over winning but being beaten by a team in a rebuild phase means something or someone isn't doing a great job! Considering our depth is supposed to be deeper this year after only taking one kid in the ND.
Club is standing still while others walk on by
:clapping
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No stand alone AFL reserves side should be beaten by 100 points in any game any time! Development maybe their focus over winning but being beaten by a team in a rebuild phase means something or someone isn't doing a great job! Considering our depth is supposed to be deeper this year after only taking one kid in the ND.
Club is standing still while others walk on by
Well said BT
100% true
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No stand alone AFL reserves side should be beaten by 100 points in any game any time! Development maybe their focus over winning but being beaten by a team in a rebuild phase means something or someone isn't doing a great job! Considering our depth is supposed to be deeper this year after only taking one kid in the ND.
Club is standing still while others walk on by
Yep today was a defining today for the whole footy club, both seniors and ressies.
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No stand alone AFL reserves side should be beaten by 100 points in any game any time! Development maybe their focus over winning but being beaten by a team in a rebuild phase means something or someone isn't doing a great job! Considering our depth is supposed to be deeper this year after only taking one kid in the ND.
Club is standing still while others walk on by
Yep, the Treading Water Tigers continue their march on the spot.
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Just watching the replay on Fox and shuddering at Brando.
Panicked into a stupid decision when he could've marked when Gia kicks the winner yet earlier in the last quarter ran into Astbury going with the flight. Spillage and goal to Crameri. :banghead
Kid needs to take a good hard look at himself.
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Just watching the replay on Fox and shuddering at Brando.
Panicked into a stupid decision when he could've marked when Gia kicks the winner yet earlier in the last quarter ran into Astbury going with the flight. Spillage and goal to Crameri. :banghead
Kid needs to take a good hard look at himself.
seems to have gotten ahead of himself just quietly. wouldnt be a bad idea to send him back to the VFL for a couple of weeks to think about things.
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Just watched the replay off the IQ
Thought it was bad being there, TV coverage didn't sugar coat it either, camera certainly didn't hide the crap ;D
Just watching the replay on Fox and shuddering at Brando.
Panicked into a stupid decision when he could've marked when Gia kicks the winner yet earlier in the last quarter ran into Astbury going with the flight. Spillage and goal to Crameri. :banghead
Kid needs to take a good hard look at himself.
seems to have gotten ahead of himself just quietly. wouldnt be a bad idea to send him back to the VFL for a couple of weeks to think about things.
:yep
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Just watched the replay off the IQ
Thought it was bad being there, TV coverage didn't sugar coat it either, camera certainly didn't hide the crap ;D
Just watching the replay on Fox and shuddering at Brando.
Panicked into a stupid decision when he could've marked when Gia kicks the winner yet earlier in the last quarter ran into Astbury going with the flight. Spillage and goal to Crameri. :banghead
Kid needs to take a good hard look at himself.
seems to have gotten ahead of himself just quietly. wouldnt be a bad idea to send him back to the VFL for a couple of weeks to think about things.
:yep
tv coverage didn't need to. Hardwick will.
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
Just plain low IQ football
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I guess dimmer neglected to address that part of his deficiency.
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
poo himself clearly, if he watched the ball coming in he would have taken an easy chest mark, instead he panicked and the rest is history
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
poo himself clearly, if he watched the ball coming in he would have taken an easy chest mark, instead he panicked and the rest is history
Yep he stuffed up, but if the rest ofthe team came to play from tge first bounce would never have ended in that one on one. Just a poor game all round
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
Was probably thinking of what hair style he'll wear at the G next week instead of looking at the ball
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
poo himself clearly, if he watched the ball coming in he would have taken an easy chest mark, instead he panicked and the rest is history
Yep he stuffed up, but if the rest ofthe team came to play from tge first bounce would never have ended in that one on one. Just a poor game all round
agreed
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
poo himself clearly, if he watched the ball coming in he would have taken an easy chest mark, instead he panicked and the rest is history
Yep he stuffed up, but if the rest ofthe team came to play from tge first bounce would never have ended in that one on one. Just a poor game all round
agreed
x 2 Gia 32 years of age vrs a kid
focus should be on the whole team in the first half. That was pathetic and thats where the game was lost.
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
poo himself clearly, if he watched the ball coming in he would have taken an easy chest mark, instead he panicked and the rest is history
Yep he stuffed up, but if the rest ofthe team came to play from tge first bounce would never have ended in that one on one. Just a poor game all round
agreed
x 2 Gia 32 years of age vrs a kid
focus should be on the whole team in the first half. That was pathetic and thats where the game was lost.
Gia is a has been in the mould of Newman. Past their use by dates.
Fact are that the 3rd year, 1st round pick poo his pants. He lacked belief and footy smarts to defend himself in a one on one contest with a has been & it was a stupid mistake.
But that's what happens to you when your recruited by Richmond. You end up a sissy and worse than you started.
But the whole team are full of mediocre hacks and sissy's.
Assbury, Grigg, Newman, Houli etc. no ruck, Rewoldting tantrums & Sideshow Bob! And a bunch of wannabe pretenders that over celebrate when they kick a goal against a bottom team. :chuck
Facts are we are still are a laughing stock and not far from another rebuild.
Dimma is too soft, doesn't demand excellence and accepts mediocrity.
Hes a liar. And a pretender. And he's too nice.
What a joke!!!
The mounds of cash for development but we are looking worse.
Can't beat the blues and let them in the finals and then lose a final to the scum when leading by a lot.
Don't get me started!!!!
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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The fact he took Gia to ground suggests he's and idiot.
What do youse think ....
poo himself clearly, if he watched the ball coming in he would have taken an easy chest mark, instead he panicked and the rest is history
Yep he stuffed up, but if the rest ofthe team came to play from tge first bounce would never have ended in that one on one. Just a poor game all round
agreed
x 2 Gia 32 years of age vrs a kid
focus should be on the whole team in the first half. That was pathetic and thats where the game was lost.
Gia is a has been in the mould of Newman. Past their use by dates.
Fact are that the 3rd year, 1st round pick poo his pants. He lacked belief and footy smarts to defend himself in a one on one contest with a has been & it was a stupid mistake.
But that's what happens to you when your recruited by Richmond. You end up a sissy and worse than you started.
But the whole team are full of mediocre hacks and sissy's.
Assbury, Grigg, Newman, Houli etc. no ruck, Rewoldting tantrums & Sideshow Bob! And a bunch of wannabe pretenders that over celebrate when they kick a goal against a bottom team. :chuck
Facts are we are still are a laughing stock and not far from another rebuild.
Dimma is too soft, doesn't demand excellence and accepts mediocrity.
Hes a liar. And a pretender. And he's too nice.
What a joke!!!
The mounds of cash for development but we are looking worse.
Can't beat the blues and let them in the finals and then lose a final to the scum when leading by a lot.
Don't get me started!!!!
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
At least the Blues are in a world of pain atm
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seems to have gotten ahead of himself just quietly. wouldnt be a bad idea to send him back to the VFL for a couple of weeks to think about things.
:clapping
Bit early to be given the 'Brando's Buddies' kids membership honour.
Will be a good player, but he already thinks he has made it.
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The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.
Where were you newman and Chaplin?
I agree about Newman and Chaplin - Chaplin's turnovers in the first half were costly.
But I disagree about Cotch - in the first quarter he ahd three set shots on goal and kicked 1.1 and 1 out on the full. IMHO that is simply not good enough. The one out on the full (Gordon did the same in the last quarter) really hurt us. How professional footballers can have a set shot and miss everything is astounding.
Let alone his leadership on the field - when things are not going our way - where is the on field leadership - I dont mean leadership by getting 30 possessions - I mean directing where people stand at stoppages and who goes to who when things are not working. We do not seem to have learnt over the past couple of years. We seem to be a team that other teams can score heavily against - 3 or 4 goals in a row against us is not uncommon. Until that gets fixed, we will be mid table.
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership. Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins or do something. Nothing was done.
I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.
Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back. By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership. Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins or do something. Nothing was done.
I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.
Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back. By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.
Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership. Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins or do something. Nothing was done.
I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.
Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back. By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.
Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
didnt Griff do that against Carlton?
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seems to have gotten ahead of himself just quietly. wouldnt be a bad idea to send him back to the VFL for a couple of weeks to think about things.
:clapping
Bit early to be given the 'Brando's Buddies' kids membership honour.
Will be a good player, but he already thinks he has made it.
Yep throw in being one of the main faces of the m'ship campaign too and you've created a monster ;D
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership. Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins or do something. Nothing was done.
I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.
Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back. By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.
Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
didnt Griff do that against Carlton?
Cant recall, I was raging.
If he did kudos :clapping but then why didn't someone do it again against the doggies? How many lessons do these players need? Thought the fremantly game last year would be enough to change the mindset for good, obviously not
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have just sat down to watch the game from Saturday due to other commitments & the 1st 5 minutes is shocking. does it get any better or should l just delete the game now & hope for a miracle this Friday night.
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Cotchin has caught the bad kicking disease :banghead
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It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.
Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior
Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory
Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership. Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins or do something. Nothing was done.
I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.
Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back. By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.
Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
didnt Griff do that against Carlton?
Cant recall, I was raging.
If he did kudos :clapping but then why didn't someone do it again against the doggies? How many lessons do these players need? Thought the fremantly game last year would be enough to change the mindset for good, obviously not
FFS they did it once and it worked and you expect them to do it again. Geez man. :lol
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have just sat down to watch the game from Saturday due to other commitments & the 1st 5 minutes is shocking. does it get any better or should l just delete the game now & hope for a miracle this Friday night.
Bin it like Hardwick would. :shh
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:clapping :lol
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Rewoldt cracking the poos on the bench at 1/4 time. Well thats what you get not putting pressure on in the forward 50. No chasing just hunched over with hands on knees. Drop him back to the 2nds
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Rewoldt cracking the poos on the bench at 1/4 time. Well thats what you get not putting pressure on in the forward 50. No chasing just hunched over with hands on knees. Drop him back to the 2nds
Why the stuff are you still watching? :lol
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Maybe we should all write a letter like this..
http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/frustrated-young-new-york-mets-baseball-fan-turns-to-Geez-for-help/story-fndukor0-1226876579446
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Rewoldt cracking the poos on the bench at 1/4 time. Well thats what you get not putting pressure on in the forward 50. No chasing just hunched over with hands on knees. Drop him back to the 2nds
Why the stuff are you still watching? :lol
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cause l aint seen the game. fair dinkum some of the country footballers could show up some of these players.
Cotchin comes screaming out of the centre & Vickery is standing next to his man not moving. Rewoldt nowhere to be seen lol. everyone caught out
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If Shane Edwards doe not get dropped this week, l will cut my membership up & post it too the club. l'm done with that 2 bit footballer :banghead
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If Shane Edwards doe not get dropped this week, l will cut my membership up & post it too the club. l'm done with that 2 bit footballer :banghead
You better get out the scissors.. :lol
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If Shane Edwards doe not get dropped this week, l will cut my membership up & post it too the club. l'm done with that 2 bit footballer :banghead
You better get out the scissors.. :lol
Beat me to it. Will never be dropped while Hardwick's in charge.
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half way through the 3rd quarter & l seen something already l like in Gordon. His in there having a go & kicked a goal. Titch is always last to the ball pushing players in the back after the whistle has gone. We have too many people willing to stand back & watch. Thomas is always in there at the bottom. our rotations don't make sense & there is Edwards again step step bang in the air & without looking where his kicking a bulldog mark
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I thought it was great when Thomas smashed griffins has into the turf
After a half of soft outside we're, disrespect to the jumper FFS
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Grigg is a SPUD :banghead
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I thought it was great when Thomas smashed griffins has into the turf
After a half of soft outside pre
yep seen that but l reckon it might be looked at closely
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even old Bob Murphy is chucking that SPUD EDWARDS to the ground. he is so silky Titch
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lovely Jackson goal in the last quarter
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lovely Jackson goal in the last quarter
You're making me relive the nightmare with your delayed running commentary Monk ;D
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OMG we have hit the front with 3:22 on the clock to go. This will be exciting to watch ;D
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SPUD EDWARDS handballs to a bulldog in our forward line & they take it down the other end. Ellis gets sucked in & costs a goal from the free kick.
THAT ALONE HARDWICK should see EDWARDS DROPPED ;D
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EDWARDS misses from 30 metres out running in.
You would drop him for sure ;D
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SPUD EDWARDS cost us the game
DROP HIM ;D :banghead
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Leave Tambling alone monk
His fragile the poor thing
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He's doing this to us because we didn't buy him a house!
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Buy Cotchin a house
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Buy Cotchin a house
He'll want a hotel!
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Buy Cotchin a house
He'll want a hotel!
He'll win 5 brownlow if we buy him a house
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick and McCartney)
9 Cotchin (Rich)
8 Macrae (WB)
6 Liberatore (WB)
5 Boyd (WB)
1 Crameri (WB)
1 Riewoldt (Rich)
http://aflca.com.au/index.php?id=14&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1337&tx_ttnews[backPid]=9&cHash=88dfb12b58
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I guess the breakdown would be
....................Dimma........McCartney
Cotchin 5 4
McRae 3 5
Liberatrore 4 2
Boyd 2 3
Riewoldt 1 0
Crameri 0 1
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I guess the breakdown would be
....................Dimma........McCartney
Cotchin 5 4
McRae 3 5
Liberatrore 4 2
Boyd 2 3
Riewoldt 1 0
Crameri 0 1
I'm surprised the coaches didn't subtract 3 votes each for that dinky kick that got intercepted
Don't the coaches know what we go through as supporters