One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 21, 2014, 09:08:59 PM
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We're coming off a win against the winless bottom side and the Hawks are coming off a loss to the undefeated top side.
Can good things happen in threes (years in a row)?
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The answer is simple. NO
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Must win game.
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Must win game.
Aaarrrggghhhhhh
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Richmond members can upgrade to a reserved seat on Level 2 of the Ponsford Stand for this weekend’s Round 6 clash against Hawthorn at the MCG on Sunday afternoon.
In a trial by the Club, 2014 Richmond members with match-day access can upgrade to the reserved seat area specifically allocated for Tigers’ members only. The upgrade offer is the only way Richmond supporters can get access to Level 2 seating for the Hawthorn game.
Seats in this area are extremely limited and are accessible only to Richmond members. Click here to upgrade, and ensure you have your barcode on the back of your membership card ready. Members should select “Ponsford Stand” when presented with seating options on the Ticketek website.
Any Richmond member or supporter that attends the game this weekend will automatically be entered into a competition to win a brand new Jeep Wrangler valued at $45,000.
This weekend’s match is the last chance to win the Jeep. Click link for more information.
Round 6 reserved seat upgrade prices:
Adult club member upgrade – $39.00
Concession club member upgrade – $39.00
Junior club member upgrade – $17.00
Please note, members will also pay the relevant Ticketek transaction fee at the time of purchase.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-22/upgrade-to-a-reserved-seat-for-tigers-v-hawks
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MCG website expecting a crowd of 45,000. It would easily get over 50k if we were up and about like last year.
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Event: AFL Round 6
Teams: Richmond v Hawthorn
Date: Sunday April 27, 2014
Start time: 3.20pm
Gate opening:
Public: 1.00pm
AFL Members Reserve: 1.00pm
MCC Members Reserve: 12.30pm
Expected attendance: 45,000
General admission seating:
Great Southern Stand
M1-M8
Q1-Q7
Q8-Q15 (Rows P-DD)
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57
Ponsford Stand
Q29-Q36
Cheersquad allocation:
Richmond - Bay M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Hawthorn - Bay M33 (Rows A-S)
Public Tickets:
Match Classification is "B". View seating plan (http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/~/media/4957EBAFB4B243DD93E37C6C191AE9FE.ashx).
Reserved seats on sale now at Ticketek (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0614&utm_source=ticketek.com.au&utm_medium=superhero&utm_content=VIC&utm_campaign=afl|rd6#.U1XKRKJpzJQ).
Car park opening:
Gate 3: 8.30am
Gate 5: 11.00am
Gate 6: 12.00pm
Gate 7: 11.00am (media, corporate and disabled pass holders only)
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=a394fa19-376b-41f8-93cf-9f8fe7e6e39c
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MCG website expecting a crowd of 45,000. It would easily get over 50k if we were up and about like last year.
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Event: AFL Round 6
Teams: Richmond v Hawthorn
Date: Sunday April 27, 2014
Start time: 3.20pm
Gate opening:
Public: 1.00pm
AFL Members Reserve: 1.00pm
MCC Members Reserve: 12.30pm
Expected attendance: 45,000
General admission seating:
Great Southern Stand
M1-M8
Q1-Q7
Q8-Q15 (Rows P-DD)
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57
Ponsford Stand
Q29-Q36
Cheersquad allocation:
Richmond - Bay M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Hawthorn - Bay M33 (Rows A-S)
Public Tickets:
Match Classification is "B". View seating plan (http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/~/media/4957EBAFB4B243DD93E37C6C191AE9FE.ashx).
Reserved seats on sale now at Ticketek (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0614&utm_source=ticketek.com.au&utm_medium=superhero&utm_content=VIC&utm_campaign=afl|rd6#.U1XKRKJpzJQ).
Car park opening:
Gate 3: 8.30am
Gate 5: 11.00am
Gate 6: 12.00pm
Gate 7: 11.00am (media, corporate and disabled pass holders only)
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=a394fa19-376b-41f8-93cf-9f8fe7e6e39c
Hawks fans don't attend the footy though
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Got 64k in the wet last year.
51k in the wet in 2012.
Will be lucky to get 50 this time round.
The clubs advertising our first 3 home games as blockbusters has been a flop crowd wise.
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
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68-72 it is and that's final then
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
Wow really?
Because between the Tigers and Magpies there are 140k + members and we only got 65k to that game so your theory... Oops I mean mail doesn't carry much weight :whistle ;D
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Must win game.
Lol.
'Cos THAT is always enough incentive for those boys to win a match !!
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MCG website expecting a crowd of 45,000.
That seems realistic given expectations of this game.
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
Wow really?
Because between the Tigers and Magpies there are 140k + members and we only got 65k to that game so your theory... Oops I mean mail doesn't carry much weight :whistle ;D
Umm, the weather was foul all day if I recall, mcg car park was closed, I didn't go, and my mail was there were 10,000 others just like me,
::)
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
Wow really?
Because between the Tigers and Magpies there are 140k + members and we only got 65k to that game so your theory... Oops I mean mail doesn't carry much weight :whistle ;D
Umm, the weather was foul all day if I recall, mcg car park was closed, I didn't go, and my mail was there were 10,000 others just like me,
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BJ - you must have a huge mail box at home! The amount of mail you receive would help keep Australia Post in the black each year! :whistle
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
Wow really?
Because between the Tigers and Magpies there are 140k + members and we only got 65k to that game so your theory... Oops I mean mail doesn't carry much weight :whistle ;D
Umm, the weather was foul all day if I recall, mcg car park was closed, I didn't go, and my mail was there were 10,000 others just like me,
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The weather was "foul" so you didn't go? ::) ::) Poor excuse ;D
For memory the weather for the game ended up OK (no rain), so that reasoning is just an excuse for the bigger issue the comp is facing at the moment. Your "mail" is an opinion
Facts are the 2 clubs combined have a massive membership base and they only got 65k, overall crowds are down despite the AFL's spin
Weather for this weekend is forecast to be good. Let's see what sort of crowd they get (reckon it will be around 60-63k) and then you can give us your mail (read excuses) as to why it was less than 70k
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You should go to the game ,rain hail or shine
Players don't shirk the issue what ever the weather .neither should supporters
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Not suggesting we are any chance to beat this mob but what do we need to do if we are to?
Obvious key match ups..
Cotchin v Mitchell
Martin v Hodge
Riewoldt v Gibson
Where I see them getting hold of us is on the outside.
We will find it very hard to halt their precision running game. The speed and class of Suckling, Smith, Hill, Breust & Rioli are going to be very hard to stop.
To have any chance whatsoever we must dominate the ruck, win the contested footy, hit our tall targets i50 and take any opportunity we get in front of goals.
Everything will have to go right and the first 5 games have shown us that is very unlikely.
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
Wow really?
Because between the Tigers and Magpies there are 140k + members and we only got 65k to that game so your theory... Oops I mean mail doesn't carry much weight :whistle ;D
Umm, the weather was foul all day if I recall, mcg car park was closed, I didn't go, and my mail was there were 10,000 others just like me,
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The weather was "foul" so you didn't go? ::) ::) Poor excuse ;D
For memory the weather for the game ended up OK (no rain), so that reasoning is just an excuse for the bigger issue the comp is facing at the moment. Your "mail" is an opinion
Facts are the 2 clubs combined have a massive membership base and they only got 65k, overall crowds are down despite the AFL's spin
Weather for this weekend is forecast to be good. Let's see what sort of crowd they get (reckon it will be around 60-63k) and then you can give us your mail (read excuses) as to why it was less than 70k
Bojangles is right WP. It definitely peed down all day the last time we played the Hawks. I was walking with a couple of mates down Bridge Road, (which resembled a river)after the game, we were soaked to the skin with three inches of water in our boots, but we didn't care because we were so high after the massive win. Can't see history repeating though :(
Another funny story on the day was that we were making our way towards the Spread Eagle, because my mate had (mis)heard on the radio pre-game that the pub was offering a free meal to Richmond members that day if the Tigers were to beat the Hawks. Turned out that in fact it was free beer (limit of one per customer I think), so we downed our pot and sloshed off home.
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My dream changes for this game.
In-Deledio, McDonough, Batchelor
Out-Petterd, Grigg, Thomas
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To be fair, Bojangles writes a lot of his own mail, so it may not be unbiased.
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BJ - you must have a huge mail box at home! The amount of mail you receive would help keep Australia Post in the black each year! :whistle
:lol
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Reckon we will win
Haven't worked out how yet
Think Petterd will play forward next to Jack
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Petterd is dangerous on the run outside 50. Set shots hie ever are very poor
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Preview: Richmond v Hawthorn
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
April 22, 2014 9:28 PM
HAWTHORN’S undefeated start to the season came to an end on Easter Monday and Alastair Clarkson's men will be keen to regain their touch in round six. The Hawks weren't themselves against Geelong, making errors by foot and wasting scoring chances. The 2-3 Tigers were also below their best against the Brisbane Lions in round five, but they did enough to snare a much-needed win. It has been a disappointing start to the year for the Tigers and standing up against a quality opponent is exactly what is needed to revive their season.
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Sunday April 27, 3.20pm
PAST FIVE TIMES
R19, 2013, Richmond 16.11 (107) d Hawthorn 9.12 (66) at the MCG
R9, 2012, Richmond 21.11 (137) d Hawthorn 10.15 (75) at the MCG
R3, 2011, Hawthorn 17.13 (115) d Richmond 6.16 (52) at the MCG
R8, 2010, Hawthorn 13.11 (89) d Richmond 13.8 (86) at the MCG
R21, 2009, Hawthorn 20.15 (135) d Richmond 14.9 (93) at the MCG
THE SIX POINTS
1. The Tigers and Hawks have clashed 151 times with Richmond holding the advantage 84-67. The Tigers and Geelong were the only teams to beat Hawthorn in 2013.
2. Richmond clearly seem to be favourites with the umpires so far in 2014, receiving more free kicks than any other team (97). Hawthorn is equal 11th with 80.
3. No side has laid less tackles in 2014 than Hawthorn, averaging just 50 a game. Richmond is ranked No.5, averaging 71.6 a game.
4. Hawthorn is the No.1 scoring side in 2014, averaging 120 points a game, while Richmond is seventh with 89 a game. The Hawks' 87 points against Geelong in round five, however, was well below their season average.
5. The biggest bag of goals kicked in a contest between these sides is also the biggest haul in Hawthorn history and the second highest in VFL/AFL history – 17 by Jason Dunstall in round seven, 1992 at Waverley Park.
6. Richmond club champion Dan Jackson has climbed up the Official AFL Player Ratings since returning from a hamstring injury in round three. He started the season ranked No.100 overall but is now placed at No.84. He is ranked No.55 among midfielders.
Prediction: Hawthorn by 29 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-22/preview-richmond-v-hawthorn
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My mail is they're expecting 68-72 , weather permitting, not sure if you re aware, both clubs have 130,000 members between them and you don't well get 50k :lol
Wow really?
Because between the Tigers and Magpies there are 140k + members and we only got 65k to that game so your theory... Oops I mean mail doesn't carry much weight :whistle ;D
Umm, the weather was foul all day if I recall, mcg car park was closed, I didn't go, and my mail was there were 10,000 others just like me,
::)
The weather was "foul" so you didn't go? ::) ::) Poor excuse ;D
For memory the weather for the game ended up OK (no rain), so that reasoning is just an excuse for the bigger issue the comp is facing at the moment. Your "mail" is an opinion
Facts are the 2 clubs combined have a massive membership base and they only got 65k, overall crowds are down despite the AFL's spin
Weather for this weekend is forecast to be good. Let's see what sort of crowd they get (reckon it will be around 60-63k) and then you can give us your mail (read excuses) as to why it was less than 70k
the weather for the Collingwood game was bloody dreadful all day which is when most punters would have determined whether they go or not, neither here or there that it was actually fine for the evening, nevermind car park was closed also. this will be a fair crowd just quietly :shh
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We never seem to draw more than 50-52k against Hawthorn.
Last year was the exception given our own field status.
I expect 50-52 rain hail or shine to keep in line with most other recent attendances between the clubs.
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You should go to the game ,rain hail or shine
Players don't shirk the issue what ever the weather .neither should supporters
really? Grigg edwards combined havent turned up for 200 of their combined games.
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the way hawkins tore em apart if they dont bring in lake or a tall and change their defensive structure id be looking at 3 tall forwards surrounded by quick small/med fellas.
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the weather for the Collingwood game was bloody dreadful all day which is when most punters would have determined whether they go or not, neither here or there that it was actually fine for the evening, nevermind car park was closed also. this will be a fair crowd just quietly :shh
Seriously a "fair crowd" ::)
It was a very poor crowd and certainly down on what the club was expecting and most likely budgeted for
As for the weather, we play at the MCG most if it is under cover. It isn't like the old days where you had to stand out in the open in the mud at places like Victoria Park, Windy Hill & Moorabbin. Think the "punters" need to toughen up a bit ;D
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We are missing 7 players from when we beat them last year (8 if you include Stephenson but he's now behind Hampson and Griffiths in the pecking order).
Injured: Rance, Deledio, Maric, Foley.
Gone: Tuck, White, McGuane.
Richmond
B: Morris Rance Astbury
HB: Grigg Chaplin Conca
C: Houli Cotchin Jackson
HF: White Edwards Ellis
F: McGuane Riewoldt Stephenson
Foll: Maric Deledio Foley
I/C: Newman Martin Vlastuin Tuck
Hawthorn
B: Stratton Lake Guerra
HB: Sewell Gibson Hodge
C: Smith Mitchell Hill
HF Gunston Roughead Breust
F: Burgoyne Franklin Rioli
Foll: Hale Lewis Puopolo
I/C: Savage Duryea Ceglar Whitecross
On a wet Saturday afternoon at the MCG in Round 19, Richmond’s midfield controlled the game, with Trent Cotchin (34 disposals), Dustin Martin (25 and a goal) and Brett Deledio (27) in particular dominating.
The Tiger midfield dominated the clearances 54 to 36 and won 146 contested possessions to 114 – the Hawthorn midfield was no match for a hungry and determined Richmond on-ball brigade.
The Hawks struggled to score in the difficult conditions, with Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead held goalless by a Tiger defence and in particular Alex Rance that proved too good on the day.
Hawthorn led by two points at half time after a goalless second quarter for the Tigers following six majors in the opening term but were overrun by a more desperate and efficient Richmond team who had 10 individual goal kickers, including five players who kicked multiple goals. Jack Riewoldt booted three.
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2014-04-23/last-time-we-met-richmond
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Hawthorn appears poised to regain Brian Lake, the player it missed so badly against Geelong,and will consider selecting another tall back, Ryan Schoenmakers, for Sunday's clash with Richmond.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brian-lake-ready-to-play-for-hawks-ryan-schoenmakers-also-20140423-zqya8.html
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We are screwed. No lids no Richmond
Hawks by 60 plus
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Will be the clearest indication yet of where we are at.
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Lake is a fat and old hack
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Lake is a fat and old hack
norm smith medalist pal.
regardless we are gone
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Lake is a fat and old hack
norm smith medalist pal.
regardless we are gone
1 good game that just happened to be the GF. Seriously he's like 35
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Lake is a fat and old hack
norm smith medalist pal.
regardless we are gone
1 good game that just happened to be the GF. Seriously he's like 35
Turned 32 in Feb. :shh
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Lake is a fat and old hack
Griff should get a hold of him then..
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Preview of the Hawks game from the enemy camp ....
Match Preview: Richmond v Hawthorn
Kate Salemme
afl.com.au
April 24, 2014 12:15 PM
The form – Hawthorn
The Hawks were below their best against the Cats on Monday and General Manager – Football Operations, Chris Fagan admitted the Club was disappointed with the performance but how much did that have to do with Geelong’s pressure?
While they finished with a disposal efficiency rating of 72 per cent at the end of the game, the Hawks lacked their usual polish by foot, particularly out of defence.
But overall, the Hawks have started their season well, having won four of their first five games and in that time, playing particularly impressive footy against Essendon, Fremantle and Gold Coast.
Not to mention the Hawks haven’t lost two games in a row since rounds four and five of 2012.
The form – Richmond
After breaking through for their first finals appearance in 12 years last year, the Tigers have had an inauspicious start to the season, having won just two of their first five matches.
One of those wins came against the Lions in Brisbane last Thursday night, a timely form boost for the likes of Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin who have been below their best to start the season but all of whom performed well against the Lions.
But disappointing performances and results against Collingwood and Western Bulldogs can’t be ignored, with the Tigers lacking their usual run and spark that made them a good side in 2013.
They’re not taking as many risks but teams too, have worked out that if you stop their free-wheeling style of footy, the Tigers aren’t as dangerous.
Recent history
Despite Hawthorn’s dominance in 2012 and 2013, Richmond has been the side they’ve struggled against and have actually lost their last two matches in a row.
In Round 19 last year, the Hawks fell to the Tigers at a wet MCG by 41 points and the year before, lost by 62 points also at a wet MCG in Round 9.
The Hawks haven’t beaten the Tigers since Round 3, 2011, when they won by 63 points at the MCG.
But Hawthorn actually has the better of the past five meetings despite the last two losses, having won the matches played in 2011, 2010 and 2009.
Where is Richmond’s strength?
There were a few whispers around when Shaun Hampson was recruited to Richmond but that move now looks like a brilliant one for the Tigers.
With Ivan Maric out with injury, Hampson has emerged as statistically, the best tap ruckman in the competition with 37 per cent of his hit outs to the advantage of a teammate.
His season average is 13.5 hit outs to advantage from his 36.5 average hit outs per game. Of his 52 hit outs against the Lions last week, 18 of those were to the advantage of a teammate an unsurprisingly, the Tigers won the clearances 45-41.
The Tigers are the best clearance team in the competition, averaging 45 per game and are ranked equal second for centre clearances, with an average of 14.6 per game. Their most dangerous players at the stoppages are Captain Trent Cotchin (averages 6.4 clearances per game), Daniel Jackson (6.3), Matt Thomas (5) and Reece Conca (4.3).
But what has let them down so far this season is their polish when they get the ball and their efficiency going forward.
The Tigers are ranked 10th in the league for effective disposal efficiency and seventh for forward 50 entries with an average of 52.4 per game but they don’t make the most of their chances when they get it forward of centre.
Richmond score on average 64.4 per cent of the time they go inside forward 50 – compare that to Hawthorn’s of 82.7 per cent.
Hawthorn’s forward line
It’s little wonder why Hawthorn score so often when they get the ball inside 50 when their potency and elite skills by hand and foot are concerned.
But Monday’s return of 12.15 was their lowest of the season, with Jarryd Roughead, Cyril Rioli, David Hale and Paul Puopolo failing to fire on the score board thanks to the pressure from Geelong’s midfield and their backline’s ability not to get caught one out.
But Hawthorn have kicked more points than any other team in the opening five rounds and you’d expect them to kick a big score on Sunday if they can get on top in the middle.
Luke Breust and Jack Gunston lead the way for goal at Hawthorn this season with 15 and 13 respectively, while Roughead has kicked 13. There are a number of different options inside 50 and keeping them all quiet is a challenge. Even Geelong struggled, with Breust and Gunston kicking six goals between them.
Those options could stretch the Richmond defence, particularly the talls. David Astbury has done a great job on the likes of Travis Cloke so far this season and Troy Chaplin has been okay but Dylan Grimes is still young and Alex Rance has been out injured.
Even their small defenders have been exposed this season, with Steven Morris probably their only true lock down defender and unfortunately, Rioli and Breust require close checking.
The pressure game
Alastair Clarkson is the master at getting his forwards to be the first line of defence – after all, he invented that tactic that has since taken on a new form in 2008.
Richmond have turned the ball over in defence when under pressure so far this season and consequently, are no longer taking the game on through the middle like they did last season.
Bachar Houli is one who has been down on form and Brandon Ellis started the year well but has since dropped away.
Hawthorn would be aware of that and will look to lock the ball in their forward half for the majority of the game to put the Tiger defence under immense pressure.
But Richmond, in the past haven’t been worried by Hawthorn’s pressure and ability to hurt you on the turnover but have instead been daring and hurt the Hawks with their run through the middle to catch them out defensively inside their forward 50.
But clean disposal by foot is needed to achieve that, something the Tigers have struggled with so far this season and Hawthorn leave no stone unturned in winning the ball back from their opposition and hurting them on the rebound.
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2014-04-24/match-preview-richmond-v-hawthorn
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Preview of the Hawks game from the enemy camp ....
Match Preview: Richmond v Hawthorn
Kate Salemme
afl.com.au
April 24, 2014 12:15 PM
The form – Hawthorn
The Hawks were below their best against the Cats on Monday and General Manager – Football Operations, Chris limpan admitted the Club was disappointed with the performance but how much did that have to do with Geelong’s pressure?
While they finished with a disposal efficiency rating of 72 per cent at the end of the game, the Hawks lacked their usual polish by foot, particularly out of defence.
But overall, the Hawks have started their season well, having won four of their first five games and in that time, playing particularly impressive footy against Essendon, Fremantle and Gold Coast.
Not to mention the Hawks haven’t lost two games in a row since rounds four and five of 2012.
The form – Richmond
After breaking through for their first finals appearance in 12 years last year, the Tigers have had an inauspicious start to the season, having won just two of their first five matches.
One of those wins came against the Lions in Brisbane last Thursday night, a timely form boost for the likes of Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin who have been below their best to start the season but all of whom performed well against the Lions.
But disappointing performances and results against Collingwood and Western Bulldogs can’t be ignored, with the Tigers lacking their usual run and spark that made them a good side in 2013.
They’re not taking as many risks but teams too, have worked out that if you stop their free-wheeling style of footy, the Tigers aren’t as dangerous.
Recent history
Despite Hawthorn’s dominance in 2012 and 2013, Richmond has been the side they’ve struggled against and have actually lost their last two matches in a row.
In Round 19 last year, the Hawks fell to the Tigers at a wet MCG by 41 points and the year before, lost by 62 points also at a wet MCG in Round 9.
The Hawks haven’t beaten the Tigers since Round 3, 2011, when they won by 63 points at the MCG.
But Hawthorn actually has the better of the past five meetings despite the last two losses, having won the matches played in 2011, 2010 and 2009.
Where is Richmond’s strength?
There were a few whispers around when Shaun Hampson was recruited to Richmond but that move now looks like a brilliant one for the Tigers.
With Ivan Maric out with injury, Hampson has emerged as statistically, the best tap ruckman in the competition with 37 per cent of his hit outs to the advantage of a teammate.
His season average is 13.5 hit outs to advantage from his 36.5 average hit outs per game. Of his 52 hit outs against the Lions last week, 18 of those were to the advantage of a teammate an unsurprisingly, the Tigers won the clearances 45-41.
The Tigers are the best clearance team in the competition, averaging 45 per game and are ranked equal second for centre clearances, with an average of 14.6 per game. Their most dangerous players at the stoppages are Captain Trent Cotchin (averages 6.4 clearances per game), Daniel Jackson (6.3), Matt Thomas (5) and Reece Conca (4.3).
But what has let them down so far this season is their polish when they get the ball and their efficiency going forward.
The Tigers are ranked 10th in the league for effective disposal efficiency and seventh for forward 50 entries with an average of 52.4 per game but they don’t make the most of their chances when they get it forward of centre.
Richmond score on average 64.4 per cent of the time they go inside forward 50 – compare that to Hawthorn’s of 82.7 per cent.
Hawthorn’s forward line
It’s little wonder why Hawthorn score so often when they get the ball inside 50 when their potency and elite skills by hand and foot are concerned.
But Monday’s return of 12.15 was their lowest of the season, with Jarryd Roughead, Cyril Rioli, David Hale and Paul Puopolo failing to fire on the score board thanks to the pressure from Geelong’s midfield and their backline’s ability not to get caught one out.
But Hawthorn have kicked more points than any other team in the opening five rounds and you’d expect them to kick a big score on Sunday if they can get on top in the middle.
Luke Breust and Jack Gunston lead the way for goal at Hawthorn this season with 15 and 13 respectively, while Roughead has kicked 13. There are a number of different options inside 50 and keeping them all quiet is a challenge. Even Geelong struggled, with Breust and Gunston kicking six goals between them.
Those options could stretch the Richmond defence, particularly the talls. David Astbury has done a great job on the likes of Travis Cloke so far this season and Troy Chaplin has been okay but Dylan Grimes is still young and Alex Rance has been out injured.
Even their small defenders have been exposed this season, with Steven Morris probably their only true lock down defender and unfortunately, Rioli and Breust require close checking.
The pressure game
Alastair Clarkson is the master at getting his forwards to be the first line of defence – after all, he invented that tactic that has since taken on a new form in 2008.
Richmond have turned the ball over in defence when under pressure so far this season and consequently, are no longer taking the game on through the middle like they did last season.
Bachar Houli is one who has been down on form and Brandon Ellis started the year well but has since dropped away.
Hawthorn would be aware of that and will look to lock the ball in their forward half for the majority of the game to put the Tiger defence under immense pressure.
But Richmond, in the past haven’t been worried by Hawthorn’s pressure and ability to hurt you on the turnover but have instead been daring and hurt the Hawks with their run through the middle to catch them out defensively inside their forward 50.
But clean disposal by foot is needed to achieve that, something the Tigers have struggled with so far this season and Hawthorn leave no stone unturned in winning the ball back from their opposition and hurting them on the rebound.
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2014-04-24/match-preview-richmond-v-hawthorn
Just being a tad arrogant here the hawks. Expecting to smash us easily :shh
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Team....???
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Team....???
Separate thread as always
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=19826.msg428765#msg428765
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Alastair Clarkson refuses to give Lake-Riewoldt match-up the green light
The Age
April 27, 2014
Brian Lake's selection for his first AFL game of the season paves the way for a marquee match-up between the Norm Smith medallist and Richmond dangerman Jack Riewoldt, but Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson refuses to give the much-anticipated duel the green light ahead of Sunday's clash.
Lake, 32, was sorely missed last week when Geelong forward Tom Hawkins booted five goals as the Hawks suffered their first loss of the season, making the All-Australian defender the obvious match-up for Riewoldt.
But Clarkson was coy on his plans on the eve of the round-six encounter.
"It will depend on their match-ups and how high up the ground Jack plays," Clarkson said on Saturday. "So we'll wait and see, but it will be a combination of a series of our defenders who will have to take care of all their forwards, really, with Jack being one of them."
Lake missed the first three matches of the season through suspension before playing two games in the VFL and Clarkson said the key defender would be better for the conservative approach.
"He just wasn't quite ready (last week).
"We could have taken the punt last week or we could have played him the week before, but it just would have been foolish.
"At this early stage of the season, it's more important to make sure your players are fit, ready to go and conditioned for what might come later in the year.
"He just wasn't quite there and particularly, because he is in the twilight of his career, we just need to be especially careful with those types of situations."
Lake-Riewoldt looms as a key match-up as the Hawks look to get back on the winners' list, but the Tigers have easily accounted for their more-fancied opponents over the past two seasons and Clarkson admits he is unsure why.
"It's a good question and you're probably better off asking (Damien) Hardwick than you are me, but they've been much better than us the last couple of times we've played.
"In both those games, their contested ball and clearance wins have really hurt us - particularly early in the game - and, if we let allow them easy ball control early in the game, then they'll get their momentum up and be really difficult to stop.
"If we can match them or beat them in that area, it's going to give us a good chance of winning the game."
Clarkson revealed club doctors were monitoring a persistent shoulder injury suffered by 20-year-old midfielder Jed Anderson, with a call on possible season-ending surgery to be made in the next few days.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/alastair-clarkson-refuses-to-give-lakeriewoldt-matchup-the-green-light-20140426-zqzyx.html
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Lake the fat pig won't be able to keep up with Jackie boy
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We have too many injuries. If the lads win this game by the smallest of margins, it will be a miracle. Someone has to flatten Rioli if we are to have any chance. Show some guts & toughness Tigers :gotigers
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Dustin needs to play more midfield today otherwise they'll smash us in the middle
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We have too many injuries. If the lads win this game by the smallest of margins, it will be a miracle. Someone has to flatten Rioli if we are to have any chance. Show some guts & toughness Tigers :gotigers
Those 3 words have not gone together this year at all.. :-\
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We have too many injuries. If the lads win this game by the smallest of margins, it will be a miracle. Someone has to flatten Rioli if we are to have any chance. Show some guts & toughness Tigers :gotigers
Those 3 words have not gone together this year at all.. :-\
Support ya team, Things will change ;D
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We have too many injuries. If the lads win this game by the smallest of margins, it will be a miracle. Someone has to flatten Rioli if we are to have any chance. Show some guts & toughness Tigers :gotigers
Those 3 words have not gone together this year at all.. :-\
Support ya team, Things will change ;D
Things should have changed by now....I wish I had more time..... :thumbsup
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I'm sadly expecting a 8 goal loss minimum (it could get really ugly if the Hawks are on and we dish up bottom 4 trash). However, if the team found some collective mental fight and rediscovered teamwork, hard work/running and playing quick and direct footy over four quarters, today is a chance for the Club to prove everyone wrong. The results over the weekend so far have worked to our favour if we were to win against the odds. Sadly, with the mental state of the team this year, we are more likely to just meekly roll over and no doubt the media's blowtorch will come onto the Club big time. No Carlton and Malthouse to save us from a media bashing this week. So which one is it today Richmond?
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@FOXFootyLive twitter:
No changes in #AFLTigersHawks
with McDonough (Tigers) and Simpkin (Hawks) the substitutes
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We have too many injuries. If the lads win this game by the smallest of margins, it will be a miracle. Someone has to flatten Rioli if we are to have any chance. Show some guts & toughness Tigers :gotigers
Those 3 words have not gone together this year at all.. :-\
Support ya team, Things will change ;D
For the better, or...? ::)
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We have too many injuries. If the lads win this game by the smallest of margins, it will be a miracle. Someone has to flatten Rioli if we are to have any chance. Show some guts & toughness Tigers :gotigers
Those 3 words have not gone together this year at all.. :-\
Support ya team, Things will change ;D
For the better, or...? ::)
lets :pray ;D
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:gotigers
Can't afford to go to the game, but I have my jumper, my flag (still a broken stick from the carlton game), my scarf, my little stuffed Tiger and my super huge stuffed Tiger. We're all sitting down waiting for the Tigers to come and smash these bloody hawks.
I still believe, I always believe.
:gotigers
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Can already see Hardwick's nonplussed look as the Hawks kick their 7th for the quarter. Seems to be wearing Elton John sized rose coloured glasses at the moment.
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Hawks won the toss.....here we go!,, :gotigers
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Push?
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Push?
Dive!
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Push?
Dive!
Yeah agree
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Their pressures unreal.
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Too easy, stuff me, how easy did that ball come out of our forward line, ended to end for a shot, it missed by gee.
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Wtf were we doing? :banghead
End to end afuckingen
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Gee whiz
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We are scared and impotent, pathetic to watch actually
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This is going to be an absolute slaughtering at this rate. Our ball use is horrible and slow, only good kick I've seen was Morris to arnott, low and fast, not up in the air like a hospital pass ( Newmans kick )
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Cotchin, two turnovers
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Signs not good. We are out of our depth
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Wtf is the holding rule? :banghead
This is pathetic.
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Hahaha it's over fellas.
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Thank stuff for Edwards, my man... ;D
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Spoil our own player, kick it out of danger straight to Mitchell :banghead
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Yep Edwards turnover for a Mitchell miss, this is what I mean with Edwards...
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Yeah Dimma we are a better team than last year ::)
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stuff we're a good side ::)
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stuff me, really.....another goal from a turnover.
We are just a rabble.
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I actually don't even like watching us play anymore.
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Every kick in is the same bloody thing !!! Slow, no options. Agonising to watch.
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We can't even turn this game into an ugly scrap like Melbourne did last night against the Swans.
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Ellis is just plain useless and a panicker.
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Martin.. :clapping
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11 scoring shots to 2.
Lucky were not 40 pts down at 1/4 time
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Thank god that quarters over.
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GAME PLAN
STOP DROPPING THE FRIGGIN BALL
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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I actually don't even like watching us play anymore.
Ok.
Best thing to do is to logout of OER for the day and turn off the TV then.
Go and do something you like.
PLEASE
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^^^
And try staying on you stuffing feet and to spoiling each other.
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If there is a game plan, nobody is following it.
If there is a plan B, there's no point cos they can't follow the first.
stuff
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What's the point in tackling if you can't get rewarded for it? 'Supporters' and media alike carry on that we don't tackle, but when we lay ripping tackles it's just play on regardless of the eternity the opposition had to get rid of it.
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We are the dumbest club in the AFL. They put themselves under preasure when a simple kick is the answer. They dont know what the meaning of clearing the ball out of the backline & we are the only club who goes short out of the backline. Edwards is the dumbest player in the AFL the stuffing SPUD & most of the Dawks scoring shots are from are stupidity. They are DUMB, PATHETIC, & SKILLESS :banghead
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I actually don't even like watching us play anymore.
Ok.
Best thing to do is to logout of OER for the day and turn off the TV then.
Go and do something you like.
PLEASE
Best thing to do is just give it up, I'm over throwing away money for four memberships a year to watch this crap. stuff it, they give up.
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Maybe the umpire could reward a good tackle too. :banghead
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They are playing with us, shows the difference plain and simple, they run harder and their disposal efficiency is light years beyond ours. Also not sure if anyone else noticed but when we kick to a player we kick to where he is standing. Shouldn't the kick be into the space so he can run on to it, just seems like we are watching us as a team who has just learned the game vs the grand masters. If we keep this below 100 we have done well.
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& the holding the ball rule states, IFf you take a player on & your tackled its holding the ball 3 times we got nothing :banghead
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Maybe the umpire could reward a good tackle too. :banghead
Nah
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Maybe the umpire could reward a good tackle too. :banghead
This is my only beef. We're playing crap and don't deserve anything, but there were 3 really good tackles that quarter where Hawks players had plenty of prior only to spill it when tackled and just play on.
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God how easy it it for them.
Why doesn't Martin start games in the centre to help Cotchin out and then move forward??
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A painful afternoon. Each error is like passing a kidney stone :doh
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Apparently holding the ball still does exist.
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How was that not a push on Pettard
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Rewoldt is a fool
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RUN DON'T STOP
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Why did Gordon stop??
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Finally holding the stuffing ball
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Don't be afraid to attack there Cotchin.
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stuffing Edwards :banghead
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stuff this is frustrating
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I know the hawks are holding them up, but Richmond just have to start running harder . playing on faster.
By the time we play on half the hawks have gone over to where the ball is going.
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Just wait down there by yourself you will get it soon :banghead
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If Shedwards gets a game next week
that's it im out.
Add Grigg and petard to the list too. So unbelievably bad the decision making guys running into traffic. Kicking it into players on the mark, not being able to get a handball over the top into space when we have a 2 on 1 (hello Edwards!) that's just basic schoolboy errors
Not stuffing good enough, pull the finger out dimma and get real with some of these pretenders. Enough is enough
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Unreal, we are the biggest bunch of stuffing weak pee hearted unskilled players in the league.
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I wish Cotchin was playing.
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Id Shedwards gets a game next week
that's it im out
Sub the stuffwit now.
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Griggs is actually playing well & giving us drive & run
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Every single contest we are out numbered. That's just plain lack of effort from the players.
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See what can happen when you move it FAST Tigers.
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
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Great goal we are only 25 pts down
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the umpire up our forward end is totally against Richmond :banghead
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I reckon the effort is there today, we are going hard, but we are making rerally dumb basic schoolboy errors. Morris kick into the mark on the smallest player in the comp, Edwards not being able to give a handball over the top when we were away on the wing with an open fwd line, Grimes running straight into traffic, Jackson getting too cute. Just avoidable unforced errors that have cost us silly goals.
Didn't expect to win but this is ridiculous
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Griggs is actually playing well & giving us drive & run
Agree, standing up at the moment.
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Why do they switch play when they are under pressure lol :banghead
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Holding the ball please.
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Where was this intensity at the start??
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Lmao Langford giving captain clanger a bath. Has he even played 10 games yet? :lol
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Lmao Langford giving captain clanger a bath. Has he even played 10 games yet? :lol
You know the only tiger player ive ever seen you bag is cotchin? :huh every week, you really think hes that bad dwaino?
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Shane Edwards better be gone next week or the club will lose me :banghead
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Shane Edwards better be gone next week or the club will lose me :banghead
He can take Chumplin with him.
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Bring on the second half.
If we keep the intensity and start increasing it we can win.
:gotigers
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Griggs is actually playing well & giving us drive & run
Agree, standing up at the moment.
Last 15-20 hes been good. 1st qtr and 1st part of the 2nd he'd barely touched the ball
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anyone bagging the captain may well fo now cause they not watching the game properly. Dawks have several players switching over the ground running with him. he needs more help
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Lmao Langford giving captain clanger a bath. Has he even played 10 games yet? :lol
You know the only tiger player ive ever seen you bag is cotchin? :huh every week, you really think hes that bad dwaino?
Making a point. Gets talked up like a gun but has done nothing but a nice game here and there since becoming captain. Edwards is getting bagged for turning it over but there was an instance in that quarter that Cotchin couldn't be stuffed bending over to get it instead it was Edwards that busted through a pack of Hawks and dished it out. If Cotchin is such a star he shouldn't have to go hide in the forward line from a close check by a guy who has played about 8 or 9 games. We're already missing Deledio, Rance and Maric, maybe he should go be a leader and spark something instead of relying on blokes like Grigg and Edwards who are going to cop it left and right on here anyway.
Langford is even running off cotchin to get some touches.
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Shane Edwards better be gone next week or the club will lose me :banghead
He can take Chumplin with him.
Drop any player that continually stuffs up especially when there's no pressure.
I don't give a crap if we end up on the bottom of the ladder for the next 2 years.
And I don't care what players they bring in to replace them.
Make players accountable for their pathetic lack of skill.
Give tougher Hardwick!!!!!!!!! >:(
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I know it gets mentioned every week but I just cannot believe we are fit. After 10 minutes of the first quarter our players had hand on their heads. In the second quarter no run at all, we would have to be the slowest team in the comp without doubt. Also every week Hardwick claims that the short passing stagnant style we are using is not part of the game plan, well the players have done it every quarter of every game so either he isn't getting the message across or the players just don't care.
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I know it gets mentioned every week but I just cannot believe we are fit. After 10 minutes of the first quarter our players had hand on their heads. In the second quarter no run at all, we would have to be the slowest team in the comp without doubt. Also every week Hardwick claims that the short passing stagnant style we are using is not part of the game plan, well the players have done it every quarter of every game so either he isn't getting the message across or the players just don't care.
I actually thought we ran faster that quarter.
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Griggs is actually playing well & giving us drive & run
Agree, standing up at the moment.
Last 15-20 hes been good. 1st qtr and 1st part of the 2nd he'd barely touched the ball
Dont know what game your watching Tony but Griggs is our leading possy winner & using the ball well
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Lmao Langford giving captain clanger a bath. Has he even played 10 games yet? :lol
You know the only tiger player ive ever seen you bag is cotchin? :huh every week, you really think hes that bad dwaino?
Making a point. Gets talked up like a gun but has done nothing but a nice game here and there since becoming captain. Edwards is getting bagged for turning it over but there was an instance in that quarter that Cotchin couldn't be stuffed bending over to get it instead it was Edwards that busted through a pack of Hawks and dished it out. If Cotchin is such a star he shouldn't have to go hide in the forward line from a close check by a guy who has played about 8 or 9 games. We're already missing Deledio, Rance and Maric, maybe he should go be a leader and spark something instead of relying on blokes like Grigg and Edwards who are going to cop it left and right on here anyway.
I find that logic flawed. For that one incident where "he couldn't be stuffed bending over" I can point out 4-5 where he led by example backing up time and again in the same play to make the contest. He makes clangers(yeah hes not perfect) but does it getting mauled every week especially with lids being out.. and what he brings to the table every single week far outweighs the errors. when players like Edwards and grigg start making mistakes with 3 players hanging off their every move and start bringing his level of play to the table maybe then they'll get the same leeway, got nothing to do with being blind. Most just appreciate what he does and his efforts.
Each to their own I spose
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Griggs is actually playing well & giving us drive & run
Agree, standing up at the moment.
Last 15-20 hes been good. 1st qtr and 1st part of the 2nd he'd barely touched the ball
Dont know what game your watching Tony but Griggs is our leading possy winner & using the ball well
Most of those touches came in the last 20 mins of play where I happily say he was playing well, can barely remember seeing him in the first qtr. Anyway, lets hope he keeps it up
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If anyone watched Hawtyhorn v Geelong last week it was a full on intense game of fast football. The Hawks ain't doing that today because we are not allowing it but we need to stop turning the ball over & over using the ball & get the quick kicks in like Cotchin does.
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I know it gets mentioned every week but I just cannot believe we are fit. After 10 minutes of the first quarter our players had hand on their heads. In the second quarter no run at all, we would have to be the slowest team in the comp without doubt. Also every week Hardwick claims that the short passing stagnant style we are using is not part of the game plan, well the players have done it every quarter of every game so either he isn't getting the message across or the players just don't care.
Its concerning!
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How many times in his career has Shane Edwards got BOG ever
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How many times in his career has Shane Edwards got BOG ever
0
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How many times in his career has Shane Edwards got BOG ever
I thought he'd have a bog once a day...
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So why did the umpire not pay for chopping the arms & they get a goal :banghead
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No intensity at the bounce.....FFS
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Lovely goal helped by Langford :clapping
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Hale bathing Chaplin
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All over, we are poo. Go home Tigers, go start the millionth rebuild.. :banghead
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Chaplin just cost us 2 goals.
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Edwards is being maned by #5 who is ready to run in off CHF, Edwards has his hands on hips 1 metre behind. he is very late to the next contest. That is Pathetic right there.
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EFFFFF
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:lol, now it's just comical.
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hawthorn going through the motions and pumping us
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Martin in the backline.. :banghead
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Richmond need to bomb the ball into Rewoldt all the rest of the game cause he is playing well today
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Martin in the backline.. :banghead
no his not, His playing forward
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Thats the end TV is OFF :banghead
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Martin in the backline.. :banghead
no his not, His playing forward
No, they put him on Bruest..... He drifted down for that. Great turnover Tiges!!!!!
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lmao pettard
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Our players are so bloody dumb !!! SO many stupid decision. Stupid stupid stupid.
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Martin in the backline.. :banghead
no his not, His playing forward
Look, he may as well be on the stuffing moon because he aint doing anything.!!!
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:lol it's actually getting quite comical
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Why are we having a centre bounce, just let them kick it out from the centre because we can't get a clearance.. :banghead
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hawthorn aren't even playing well.
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Anyone know the term for a 'group' of squibs?
Is it a litter?
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Lloyd subbed.
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hawthorn aren't even playing well.
Correct Coach they are just as pathetic, l'm watching Geelong vs Port now
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Anyone know the term for a 'group' of squibs?
Is it a litter?
No its the RFC.
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Anyone know the term for a 'group' of squibs?
Is it a litter?
limpgots
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How about about we just call them stuffwits....
Go Hawks, smash us!!
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The cycle of Skata. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Tigeritis is alive and well.
Mediocrity for everyone to see.
B.J, Al, and all apologists for mediocrity, this is the rubbish you think doesn't exist or you fail to acknowledge. Wonder what the excuses will be this week? Umpires, injuries, rubbish!!!
We will NEVER be anything until they fix culture full stop.
We are on the merry-go-round that is the Richmond footy club.
Too many that don't work hard enough and poo themselves too often and they think they are good enough when they've achieved nothing.
This club is a disgrace and Dimma is a phony and a liar.
FIX CULTURE FIRST!!!
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The saddest part is that we are having a genuine crack and getting blasted.
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Score come up lol we will get a 100 point smashing for sure
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This is getting very annoying. Really where is this club at? It's just stuffed.
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This is actually getting comical now :facepalm
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53 points, they NEED to be stuffing embarrassed, they really do, at least the Dees have a go.
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Aaand its a 10 goal lead.
Theyll be gunning for a 100 point margin now the hawks
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TV's OFF
I will see you all next week :banghead
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How the stuff can a team supposedly on the rise dish this poo up. I can't believe this rubbish. I am embarrassed to say I am actually a member of this poo, stuffing poo rabble of crap. I won't call them a team, they are no where near what a team is... :banghead
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(http://stuffasiseeit.stuff-stewart-double-facepalm.png)
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Getting ugly now, whats cotch doing?! :banghead
where to from here? we are officially a rabble again
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The sad thing as someone mentioned is that we are trying but there is one problem, man for man across the ground we are slower and poorer skilled, simply put aren't good enough. If we play the very best we can play and the Hawks do the same we still lose that's the sad truth.
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Arnott, Lloyd to be dropped bc they had a quiet one - and maybe McDonough
yessssss dimma get it done :clapping
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oh wow only 64 pts down, will l turn the game back on
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Griggs petard promoted leadership group
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go man on man & see how they play it out. stuff the zone football off cause it dont work :banghead
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Dusty off injured
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Yep, great, just what we DONT need.
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Martins ok, Hawks have 10 individual goal scoffers, how's that for manning up.
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yep his ok Dusty :pray
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And a stuff head RFC supporter onto the ground.... :banghead
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Can't continue to play Morris. His shoulder is gone
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whats the score now. i turned off we were about 6 goals down
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We're a bunch of pussies.
No niggle, no hard hits....
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even the guy running onto the ground cant put them off haha $6k fine
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The cycle of Skata. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Tigeritis is alive and well.
Mediocrity for everyone to see.
B.J, Al, and all apologists for mediocrity, this is the rubbish you think doesn't exist or you fail to acknowledge. Wonder what the excuses will be this week? Umpires, injuries, rubbish!!!
We will NEVER be anything until they fix culture full stop.
We are on the merry-go-round that is the Richmond footy club.
Too many that don't work hard enough and poo themselves too often and they think they are good enough when they've achieved nothing.
This club is a disgrace and Dimma is a phony and a liar.
FIX CULTURE FIRST!!!
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74 points gee whiz
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whats the score now. i turned off we were about 6 goals down
118 - 44 ;D
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The cycle of Skata. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Tigeritis is alive and well.
Mediocrity for everyone to see.
B.J, Al, and all apologists for mediocrity, this is the rubbish you think doesn't exist or you fail to acknowledge. Wonder what the excuses will be this week? Umpires, injuries, rubbish!!!
We will NEVER be anything until they fix culture full stop.
We are on the merry-go-round that is the Richmond footy club.
Too many that don't work hard enough and poo themselves too often and they think they are good enough when they've achieved nothing.
This club is a disgrace and Dimma is a phony and a liar.
FIX CULTURE FIRST!!!
Dimma is only one part of it.
TIME TO PUT THE BLOW TORCH ON THE RECRUITERS, ON THE FITNESS GUYS AND ON THE PERSON OR PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONEYBALL AT RICHMOND. THIS FAILURE GENTLEMEN IS A TEAM EFFORT ON BEHALF OF MANY AT PUNT ROAD - DIMMA ISNT THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME. :cheers
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Bounces
Richmond - 0
Hawthorn - 16
What a joke
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Conca flattened Gibson reported
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Shane Edwards squibbed :rollin
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Conca flattened Gibson reported
WELL FOR ME THAT MAKES CONCA OUR BEST PLAYER TODAY. AT LEAST HE DID SOMETHING USEFUL!
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Dimma took too many short cuts with this rebuild. Too many recycled players. Should have developed the kids and instilled the culture right from the get go. Oh well another 5 years down the drain. Bring on the next rebuild boys !!
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Conca flattened Gibson reported
And who went to Gibson and knocked him on his arse???
These blokes are a bunch of sissy's that shouldn't be allowed to wear the jumper.
They wouldn't know what it means to stick up for your teammate.
They are a bunch of Pansy's. Showcasing there sissyness on ANZAC weekend!!!!!
What a disgrace and a bunch of tassel wearing limp wristed wannabees.
They all wear knickers and panty liners this mob.
And the buck stops with the coach!!!!
He determines the direction, the culture, the standard.
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The cycle of Skata. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Tigeritis is alive and well.
Mediocrity for everyone to see.
B.J, Al, and all apologists for mediocrity, this is the rubbish you think doesn't exist or you fail to acknowledge. Wonder what the excuses will be this week? Umpires, injuries, rubbish!!!
We will NEVER be anything until they fix culture full stop.
We are on the merry-go-round that is the Richmond footy club.
Too many that don't work hard enough and poo themselves too often and they think they are good enough when they've achieved nothing.
This club is a disgrace and Dimma is a phony and a liar.
FIX CULTURE FIRST!!!
Dimma is only one part of it.
TIME TO PUT THE BLOW TORCH ON THE RECRUITERS, ON THE FITNESS GUYS AND ON THE PERSON OR PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONEYBALL AT RICHMOND. THIS FAILURE GENTLEMEN IS A TEAM EFFORT ON BEHALF OF MANY AT PUNT ROAD - DIMMA ISNT THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME. :cheers
That might be correct but
And the buck stops with the coach!!!!
He determines the direction, the culture, the standard.
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and he is paying the price for it right now. the rebuild was full of short cuts by getting in C grade players from other clubs the only difference is they gave short cuts a fancy name and called it Moneyball. Idiots.
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Bounces
Richmond - 0
Hawthorn - 16
What a joke
What about the all important corrals. We must have won that stat.
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Another quality small forward kills us again. We should have recruited a small quality forward. We have not. Very poor recruiting decision
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Bounces
Richmond - 0
Hawthorn - 16
What a joke
What about the all important corrals. We must have won that stat.
best in the comp :cheers
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Bounces
Richmond - 0
Hawthorn - 16
What a joke
There was one excellent bounce w 12 sec to go
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Another quality small forward kills us again. We should have recruited a small quality forward. We have not. Very poor recruiting decision
Our recruiters are taking the pee out of us. Our supporters should have worked that out by now. They go to the national draft they pick traditionally a supposedly safe pick like Ellis etc and then claim success, pity they cant get anything beyond the first round and then they go and recruit blokes from other clubs that those clubs dont want. Thats Richmonds recruiting philosophy and its complete utter crap.
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Marking space is fine if you have speed on your side. Being the slowest team in the comp we just can't keep up with the opposition. The Hawks toyed with us today, there were instances where they could have run around in the same spot 10 times and our players still hadn't made ground on them. Future looks bleak, even Demons with Roos show more promise in their style of play. Hardwick has done a good job with the resources he has but we will continue to go backwards from here unless some drastic action is taken.
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Astbury's game on Roughead was a positive
McDonough showed some composure when he came on
Conca busted a nut all day too and copped a cheap one late from Gibson for his trouble
Apart from that I got nothin
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Darn thought we were going to win that, oh well we will smash who we play next week
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Conca flattened Gibson reported
And who went to Gibson and knocked him on his arse???
These blokes are a bunch of sissy's that shouldn't be allowed to wear the jumper.
They wouldn't know what it means to stick up for your teammate.
They are a bunch of Pansy's. Showcasing there sissyness on ANZAC weekend!!!!!
What a disgrace and a bunch of tassel wearing limp wristed wannabees.
They all wear knickers and panty liners this mob.
And the buck stops with the coach!!!!
He determines the direction, the culture, the standard.
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Actually, several players took on Gibson after that. But what do you actually want our players to do when the umpires are right there & doing their best to protect Gibson? Speaking of umpiring, isn't there an automatic 50 mtr penalty after a reportable offence? :huh
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whats the score now. i turned off we were about 6 goals down
118 - 44 ;D
Really not funny Monky not funny at all especially for those who take footy really seriously. In the end, its just a game where blokes have to kick a pig skin between some goal posts. Theres people fighting for their lives in hospital as we speak, thats serious not a football team thats no good. tommorow we all wake up, our footy team will still be crap but we will all be here to fight another day. :cheers
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Chaplin 0 tackles
Grigg 0 tackles
Newman 1 tackle
Martin 1 tackle
2 tackles between 5 senior players, most repeat offenders.
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whats the score now. i turned off we were about 6 goals down
118 - 44 ;D
Really not funny Monky not funny at all especially for those who take footy really seriously. In the end, its just a game where blokes have to kick a pig skin between some goal posts. Theres people fighting for their lives in hospital as we speak, thats serious not a football team thats no good. tommorow we all wake up, our footy team will still be crap but we will all be here to fight another day. :cheers
& too add insult Port are smashing Geelong 70 - 33 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd term
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GEEEEEE LONG will bury us next week. 15 goal job coming up next week and season well and truly over.
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wow went to get a beer the walk not that far & get back its 70-46 now ;D
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Chaplin 0 tackles
Grigg 0 tackles
Newman 1 tackle
Martin 1 tackle
2 tackles between 5 senior players, most repeat offenders.
Honestly Grigg isnt a surprise
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Chaplin 0 tackles
Grigg 0 tackles
Newman 1 tackle
Martin 1 tackle
2 tackles between 5 senior players, most repeat offenders.
Honestly Grigg isnt a surprise
None on that list is a surprise, im surprised if any of them have more than 2 in a game
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A couple of observations today, one was after halftime it was Jack trying to gee up the side, he isn't even in the leadership group, why isn't Cotch or Chaplin screaming at them and getting them pumped. Also when Hardwick was addressing the team at three quarter time it was as if it was a training run. Can't imagine a Hinkley or a Clarkson being so reserved, it's almost like Hardwick is already resigned to the fact that after losing by over 100 to the Cats next week the blowtorch will well and truly be applied to him and with no real clue how to turn things around his future is unclear.
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What I have noticed is that no-one at all seems to be enjoying their footy at the moment.
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Conca flattened Gibson reported
And who went to Gibson and knocked him on his arse???
These blokes are a bunch of sissy's that shouldn't be allowed to wear the jumper.
They wouldn't know what it means to stick up for your teammate.
They are a bunch of Pansy's. Showcasing there sissyness on ANZAC weekend!!!!!
What a disgrace and a bunch of tassel wearing limp wristed wannabees.
They all wear knickers and panty liners this mob.
And the buck stops with the coach!!!!
He determines the direction, the culture, the standard.
.
Actually, several players took on Gibson after that. But what do you actually want our players to do when the umpires are right there & doing their best to protect Gibson? Speaking of umpiring, isn't there an automatic 50 mtr penalty after a reportable offence? :huh
Welcome aboard JP.
No disrespect but I wouldn't call that sticking up for your mate.
For a starters Gibson was still standing.
Someone should've ripped his head off.
Someone should've come in and put him on his arse, now that doesn't have to be a king hit but anyone can be easily wrestled him to the ground at the least. And an all in brawl isn't such a bad thing anyway especially for us.
But I don't expect anything less from this mob that sit when they pee.
Soft is what defines this club and something that hasn't been addressed.
Who put the young Langford on his arse today to stick up for the captain????
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Same guy that K O ed mcaffer
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Same guy that K O ed mcaffer
Exactly.
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What I have noticed is that no-one at all seems to be enjoying their footy at the moment.
not when you see so called best players in Australia giving the supporters Metro style football. poo we could watch better at our local clubs, like watching Dean McDonald a tiger supporter himself who walked away from Richmond to enjoy his football in the local comp & stand out like his a million dollar player & get payed peanuts & you pay $10 to watch it compared to spending thousands every years watching crap like that & sqibb players who pull out of contests
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Players don't look interested. Don't look like they care that they're being made to look so pathetic.
No running, leading, chasing, hard bumping, shepherding. No passion. Blokes aren't enjoying it and not looking after one another. No confidence. No playing on, no bouncing, nobody backing themselves to kick the damned goal.
Leadership and coaching issue. I'm wondering if the players are seriously disenchanted with Hardwick.
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Players don't look interested. Don't look like they care that they're being made to look so pathetic.
No running, leading, chasing, hard bumping, shepherding. No passion. Blokes aren't enjoying it and not looking after one another. No confidence. No playing on, no bouncing, nobody backing themselves to kick the damned goal.
Leadership and coaching issue. I'm wondering if the players are seriously disenchanted with Hardwick.
Would say its stemming from the Woman President & the assistant coaches who have come to the club who have nothing to offer the players. Injuries to key players & no depth in the playing group. players clearly not fit enough so 1st person l would sack quickly like tonight is the fitness coach & McQualter. Roost Penny out to her pen & inplace a president the players fear.
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Fair enough too
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its very clear the president is doing nothing when serial culprits like Chaplin, Shane Squibber Edwards, are getting games on no performances in 6 games. beaten in 3 games we should have won being a top 6 team & 6 shocking team performances means we are going backwards but the coach thinks we are better than last year tells me he is taking no notice of the game & thinks the supporters are a pack of gobbling turkeys who will keep throwing money at the club if he keeps sending us spin. Cant wait to hear his post match comments ;D
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Players don't look interested. Don't look like they care that they're being made to look so pathetic.
No running, leading, chasing, hard bumping, shepherding. No passion. Blokes aren't enjoying it and not looking after one another. No confidence. No playing on, no bouncing, nobody backing themselves to kick the damned goal.
Leadership and coaching issue. I'm wondering if the players are seriously disenchanted with Hardwick.
Roost Penny out to her pen
:lol
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What I have noticed is that no-one at all seems to be enjoying their footy at the moment.
not when you see so called best players in Australia giving the supporters Metro style football. poo we could watch better at our local clubs, like watching Dean McDonald a tiger supporter himself who walked away from Richmond to enjoy his football in the local comp & stand out like his a million dollar player & get payed peanuts & you pay $10 to watch it compared to spending thousands every years watching crap like that & sqibb players who pull out of contests
I meant the players don't look like they're enjoying their footy. The fans obviously aren't enjoying it. ;D
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I expected a ten goal loss and unfortunately we delivered it.
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Bring back Wallet
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What I have noticed is that no-one at all seems to be enjoying their footy at the moment.
not when you see so called best players in Australia giving the supporters Metro style football. poo we could watch better at our local clubs, like watching Dean McDonald a tiger supporter himself who walked away from Richmond to enjoy his football in the local comp & stand out like his a million dollar player & get payed peanuts & you pay $10 to watch it compared to spending thousands every years watching crap like that & sqibb players who pull out of contests
I meant the players don't look like they're enjoying their footy. The fans obviously aren't enjoying it. ;D
well l didnot enjoy it for all the money l give the club every year. l did not expect us to win this game, due to injuries & them having a full list, But some of the things l see like turnovers that cost goals just makes it unpleasant for everyone involved in supporting the club
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Bring back Wallet
If he come anywhere near the club again there would be a revolt against the club from the fans ;D
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Bring back Wallet
If he come anywhere near the club again there would be a revolt against the club from the fans ;D
Was fetter coach then hardweak
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyon.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
wow what a post :clapping
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
The opening paragraph says it all! Say no more......
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Darn thought we were going to win that, oh well we will smash who we play next week
Oh yeah apologists hear we come. Gotta fly the flag for everything that's ridgey didge about the RFC.
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
The opening paragraph says it all! Say no more......
Sensational Post :clapping
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lmao my old man just called me, quite understandably furious, and said that Cotchin plays like "that blond girl from Essendon." :lol :rollin
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
:bow :clapping
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lmao my old man just called me, quite understandably furious, and said that Cotchin plays like "that blond girl from Essendon." :lol :rollin
Yeah I lol'd :thumbsup
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It's funny cos it's real.
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Cotchin gets a lot of ball but doesn't hurt the opposition.
Pissy little kicks. Long ones are off target. Doesn't seem to run and carry the ball anymore.
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Cotchin gets a lot of ball but doesn't hurt the opposition.
peey little kicks. Long ones are off target. Doesn't seem to run and carry the ball anymore.
Mate open your eyes if the other players would give him a chop out we might actually get somewhere
At this point in time he is the only leader of our club yet you want to point at his deficiencies with the likes of newy grigg and the handyman floating around
I feel for him having to share a shower with those commercial road faggots
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To be fair to Cotchin he was being close checked by an experienced opponent in Langford who probably got chaired off by Burgoyne and Mitchell for his 10th game.
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
Just wanted to quote this big long post too
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Yeah Cotchin needs to be bagged more so clueless twats who feel sorry for the likes of Grigg & Edwards can feel better.
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Brilliant post Don.
:bow :bow
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Should be stickied.
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
Need to send this to Dimma….
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Rather than talk about the obvious I will say this.
Dimma has lost the plot. In 2012 we were the best contested side in the comp and used the corridor regularly with quick ball movement in 2013 we complemented this adding defensive 50 pressure and forward 50 pressure.
Why does Dimma want to forsake this and reinvent the wheel?
The team philosophy that has held firm for his first four years in nowhere now. This stop start static option footy has reminded me of the Spud tenure added with this corralling bs reminding me of the Wallet era.
For a minute there I thought that the Ponsford was still under construction and it was 2003 such was the brand of footy we were playing.
Why sacrifice the game of a 2 time Coleman Medallist to make a pea hearted footballer in Vickery the focus.
Why keep playing blokes like Grigg Edwards Chaplin Newman Houli and such who have been abysmal. Our attack last year was launched from half back this year we have got nothing from Houli Newman or anyone.
Why make players do what is unnatural to them and get naturally attacking minded players and input a defensive mindset in them?
Houli squibbed it in front of me again in front of the Olympic in the second.
Titch, Petterd, Grigg I don't care how many times they get it, quantity will always loose out to quality no matter what.
This club is happy with 110% FTF and high membership bases with no on foeld return.
Port were 6 games worse off than us in 2012 yet the way things stand now they licked the Cats who in turn will annihilate us as they always seem to do next week.
The club is a constant annual failure who are lucky to have the supporter base they have. As much as a Cllingwood flag in September has a special mystique about it as their GF failures so are our annual failures given that even though last year may be regarded as a success being knocked out of the finals by a side that failed to qualify is a massive failure of sorts given we were also 5 goals plus up in the third quarter.
The apparent lack of cohesion, speed, constructiveness and ability to back up your team mate has totally devoid the side of any flair and continuity that served us so well especially in 2012/13 and for parts of 2011 when we realised that potentially we have a side that may play a sustainable brand of football that could take us well into September.
This club it seems is once again making the mistake of putting the cart before the horse and counting its membership base, profits and potential ucess rather than planning on sustainability. Dimma is coaching like a man who is bereft of any ideas and planning unnatural game plans for players who seem to be confused and bereft of inspiration themselves. We saw this with Frawley post 2001 when we made finals and despite any injury concerns to key players this should not be enough to set us back the way it has as 2003 we saw more of the same crap.
Dimma has really lost me after the Bulldogs game I was angry given how we lost and given where the two sides were on the table last year but that was the warning sign that now has turned into a full blooded DEFCOM 5 alert and we are really in danger and I aint talking about this year because I feel right now it is gone and given we have Geelong on the rebound next week but next year and 2016 the next two years of Dimma's tenure.
If it aint broke why fix it? Unless you want to be too smart and not play to your strengths.
I would rather isolate Jack and use Griff and have another tall third option by bringing Lennon into the side.
Vickery has lost me given his attitude. If Lids has an Achilles put him on the LTIL and promote Miles. Geez we need a small classy crumber who can play midfield we are so lacking in that area it aint funny. Has been for years since Naishy left for Port. Would retain Gordon and Lloyd as especially the former whilst making a blue at least presents and gut runs.
Arnot, McDonough, Griff, Astbury must play week in week out and when Dea is available play him too.
Would ratherlose with the kids than lose with the same footballers who give the same paltry output year in and year out. If Newman is a leader spend two years in the ressies and teach and nurture the kids. Add Houli, Titch, Grigg, Petterd just to name a few and add a few others like Chaplin, Hampson when Maric is fit as Griff on one leg is better than that spud of a footballer and we gave up pick 28 for this but hey Hawthorn give up pick 17 for McEvoy. :-\
This season is salvageable and if it means playing the kids with a spine of senior players in the 80-150 core to guide us then so be it. Time for Cotch, Martin, Jack, and some lesser types like Ellis and Grimes and a few others to model themselves on Floss and see how he goes about it.
I could bear the floggings in 2010/11 because we were rebuilding from scratch given the retirements and the list degradation that set in by the time 2009 finished but our list is fast becoming if not already is the same failed list that tokenly made a finals series for the first time in a decade and if 2020 odd is the next time we make it because history is repeating and the same mistakes are being made then everybody in the club should be ashamed of this.
How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
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The '95 theses - to be coached and play like we haven't since '95.
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The '95 theses - to be coached and play like we haven't since '95.
Bring back 'Swooper'
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The '95 theses - to be coached and play like we haven't since '95.
Bring back 'Swooper'
Where is the old dog these days?
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Probably changing his poo bag as we speak
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Probably changing his poo bag as we speak
Even with an unchanged poo bag he would do a better job of geeing up the team…. :banghead
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Probably changing his poo bag as we speak
Even with an unchanged poo bag he would do a better job of geeing up the team…. :banghead
He got Melbourne to five successive finals series including a GF.
Hang on he wanted an extra year at us after guiding us t the finals and we knocked him back.
Dimma on the other hand..................
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Cotchin gets a lot of ball but doesn't hurt the opposition.
peey little kicks. Long ones are off target. Doesn't seem to run and carry the ball anymore.
Mate open your eyes if the other players would give him a chop out we might actually get somewhere
At this point in time he is the only leader of our club yet you want to point at his deficiencies with the likes of newy grigg and the handyman floating around
I feel for him having to share a shower with those commercial road limpgots
:clapping
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I really had no expectations other than just having a go, didnt happen.
Heartless soulless effort
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Forget Geelong the big meltdown will be Melbourne the following week, we are the worst team in the comp!
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Forget Geelong the big meltdown will be Melbourne the following week, we are the worst team in the comp!
Roos is counting the days.....
....Cameron probably is too.......
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How can Port do it and overtake us and Bulldogs start a rebuild 2 years after us yet bear fruit against us already whilst we claim we are finals bound and get an 11 goal flogging from the reigning premier whom we beat by 62 and 41 points the last two times we met. Mindset and garbage planning, list management, coaching agendas and personnel selection in the team 22 has negated any opportunity we have had to build on the last four years of significant on and off field productivity and improvement.
First of all your post is the best post I've read and I'm sure most of us will agree with you except for the Apologists for mediocrity and pansy footy.
It's called culture mate.
Many will say Port weren't as bad a position we were in and that might be true but it is an easy excuse for the apologists.
Port has the third youngest list.
The difference is that when Hinkley arrived he told the boys they were miles behind the top clubs so he told them they have to be better, aim higher, train harder, work longer, than all the top clubs. Even without superstars they are competitive week in week out.
We have the poo culture. We have a soft culture. We have a loser culture. We have a prima Donna culture. We have a mediocre culture etc. etc.
its a culture that swells the head. How many times have we all seen it???
It's Dimma's fault. He sold us lies when he arrived and hasn't stuck by his word.
He also said he knew what it took to make a successful team but its Richmond your at and unless you fix the culture issues they will always return and bite you on the arse.
I really thought he was the one but after last years finals debacle he has proved a failure and we need someone else that can come in and fix the culture first & build a finals team.
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Why we never ever revert to one-on-one when we're getting overrun is beyond me. It's football basics and the default setting of most sides ffs. You don't even really need to teach it to the players - they all would've done it as kids and it's not that hard to just find an opponent and stand next to them and follow them around. The opposition does all the positioning for you.
A team with our poor skills & lack of pace maintaining the zone against a team like Hawthorn in red hot form is just courting disaster. A zone defence only accomodates their style in that situation. The 2012 & 2013 results against them were clearly nothing more than statistical anomolies.
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Why we never ever revert to one-on-one when we're getting overrun is beyond me. It's football basics and the default setting of most sides ffs. You don't even really need to teach it to the players - they all would've done it as kids and it's not that hard to just find an opponent and stand next to them and follow them around. The opposition does all the positioning for you.
A team with our poor skills & lack of pace maintaining the zone against a team like Hawthorn in red hot form is just courting disaster. A zone defence only accomodates their style in that situation. The 2012 & 2013 results against them were clearly nothing more than statistical anomolies.
sounds a simple solution but the sad truth is that in most one on one contests our players are clearly inferior in the important areas of speed, agility, guts, determination and accountability. We rely on other teams being off their game rather than winning because we produce a team effort. As soon as the going gets tough its clock off time I am going home. No players appear to get dropped for this attitude so hence it persists and hence the poor culture that riddles the club like a cancer continues to thrive.
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^ lozzas's right there, that's why melbourne and even a gws can hang in the game against us until the siren. Nan on man were pathetic
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That may be so...but how is constantly giving a side like Hawthorn open space and allowing one uncontested possession after another any better....if we're too slow and not agile enough in a one-on-one situation how can we be expected to compete with them by giving them a 10 -20 metre head starts all the time.... in tight you at least have a fighting chance , can slow them down and they're not just waltzing down field unchallenged winding up their superior pace and using their superior footskills to hit up the free teammates that are all over the park...at least one-on -one puts a bit more pressure on them and makes them more accountable....zone defence to me only further exposes our poor skills, fitness and lack of pace....
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Nan on man were pathetic
:shh
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Grigg playing man on man we will get done by hundreds
At least his type can hide in a zone/press - cover grass
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Grigg playing man on man we will get done by hundreds
At least his type can hide in a zone/press - cover grass
Grigg's a liabilty regardless of gameplan.
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Astbury's game was one of the few positives. His development been one of the few highlights of the season.
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To be fair to Cotchin he was being close checked by an experienced opponent in Langford who probably got chaired off by Burgoyne and Mitchell for his 10th game.
Langford has a good teacher in his father who was a a champion defender. One of the smartest footballing brains in football back then & today, Who could easily replace Demetriou & do it well. So l would expect nothing less from a 10 gamer who has everyone watching him claim scalps. But Cotchin body is not 100% as he takes a battering weekly. We need another Tuck type player to protect our mids & one of these lads like Arnot will deliver with game time
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Astbury's game was one of the few positives. His development been one of the few highlights of the season.
Yes true & remove Chaplin & give Batchlor time to fill his role. Batchlor can play
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Tigers ready to run
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2014
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/round-6-grimes-postmatch
Although Richmond was well beaten by reigning premier Hawthorn at the MCG yesterday (Sunday), defender Dylan Grimes believes there were signs the Tigers had turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement.
“That was a focus of ours going into the game. There were patches where we did do it,” Grimes told ‘Roar Vision’.
“It showed that we’ve improved on recent weeks, and that’s something that we’ll really try and drive going into the Geelong game (next Sunday).”
“Our KPI’s were all red for us this week, so that was the most disappointing thing,” Grimes said.
“We didn’t play the way we wanted to play. Basically, they made us defend a lot of the time, which was very taxing on us . . .”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-28/tigers-ready-to-run
We've turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement? :huh :huh3
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Grigg playing man on man we will get done by hundreds
At least his type can hide in a zone/press - cover grass
Grigg's a liabilty regardless of gameplan.
I can't believe a guy who the club pays hundreds of thousands of dollars per year can't see that this guy is an imposter. A netballer playing AFL. :banghead
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Tigers ready to run
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2014
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/round-6-grimes-postmatch
Although Richmond was well beaten by reigning premier Hawthorn at the MCG yesterday (Sunday), defender Dylan Grimes believes there were signs the Tigers had turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement.
RedTigers ready to run
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2014
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/round-6-grimes-postmatch
Although Richmond was well beaten by reigning premier Hawthorn at the MCG yesterday (Sunday), defender Dylan Grimes believes there were signs the Tigers had turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement.
“That was a focus of ours going into the game. There were patches where we did do it,” Grimes told ‘Roar Vision’.
“It showed that we’ve improved on recent weeks, and that’s something that we’ll really try and drive going into the Geelong game (next tSunday).”
“Our KPI’s were all red for us this week, so that was the most disappointing thing,” Grimes said.
“We didn’t play the way we wanted to play. Basically, they made us defend a lot of the time, which was very taxing on us . . .”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-28/tigers-ready-to-run
We've turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement? :huh :huh3
“That was a focus of ours going into the game. There were patches where we did do it,” Grimes told ‘Roar Vision’.
“It showed that we’ve improved on recent weeks, and that’s something that we’ll really try and drive going into the Geelong game (next Sunday).”
“Our KPI’s were all red for us this week, so that was the most disappointing thing,” Grimes said.
“We didn’t play the way we wanted to play. Basically, they made us defend a lot of the time, which was very taxing on us . . .”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-28/tigers-ready-to-run
We've turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement? :huh :huh3
They have KPI's, cannot believe it, must have run out of red ink by now. Would love to know what they are, the team must be so far from them it's not funny. You defend a lot of the time Dylan because if you don't attack then regularly turn over possession that's all there is left to do. :banghead
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Tigers ready to run
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2014
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/round-6-grimes-postmatch
Although Richmond was well beaten by reigning premier Hawthorn at the MCG yesterday (Sunday), defender Dylan Grimes believes there were signs the Tigers had turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement.
“That was a focus of ours going into the game. There were patches where we did do it,” Grimes told ‘Roar Vision’.
“It showed that we’ve improved on recent weeks, and that’s something that we’ll really try and drive going into the Geelong game (next Sunday).”
“Our KPI’s were all red for us this week, so that was the most disappointing thing,” Grimes said.
“We didn’t play the way we wanted to play. Basically, they made us defend a lot of the time, which was very taxing on us . . .”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-28/tigers-ready-to-run
We've turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement? :huh :huh3
This is exactly the sort of crapp I am talking about, please give a rest
Stop treating us like morons
Right now we simply don't believe you RFC
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this article is a small example of whats wrong with Richmond FC. "Tigers ready to run"
GOT A NEWS FLASH YOU BLOKES THE SEASON STARTED WEEKS AGO. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE UP AND RUNNING THEN, NOT WHEN YOU SEASON IS SHOT TO PIECES.
But what worries me more is they actually put this tripe up on the club website. They actually believe the tripe and the spin they're peddling.
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Sorry WP I must have been writing my message at the same time as you. Cheers. :cheers
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"OOOH THEY MADE US DEFEND AND WE GOT TIRED......" ffs....if the tigers of the world could talk they'd mount a class action against this club for bringing their species into disrepute.....from ruthless to toothless.....we should swap mascots with Geelong after next week's match....
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"OOOH THEY MADE US DEFEND AND WE GOT TIRED......" ffs....if the tigers of the world could talk they'd mount a class action against this club for bringing their species into disrepute.....from ruthless to toothless.....we should swap mascots with Geelong after next week's match....
Maybe Slater & Gordon could do it as a no win no fee job with all compo to go to saving the tigers of the wild!
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this article is a small example of whats wrong with Richmond FC. "Tigers ready to run"
GOT A NEWS FLASH YOU BLOKES THE SEASON STARTED WEEKS AGO. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE UP AND RUNNING THEN, NOT WHEN YOU SEASON IS SHOT TO PIECES.
But what worries me more is they actually put this tripe up on the club website. They actually believe the tripe and the spin they're peddling.
Whats just as bad is there are some supporters who buy into it week in week out year in year out
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Its a sad state of affairs when your forwards are displaying more defensive pressure than your Backmen. Chaplain was exposed as a complete defensive fraud. We wanted a monster truck and all we ended up with is a Soft Top Mini Moke.
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:lol
Its a sad state of affairs when your forwards are displaying more defensive pressure than your Backmen. Chaplain was exposed as a complete defensive fraud. We wanted a monster truck and all we ended up with is a Soft Top Mini Moke.
:lol
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To be fair to Cotchin he was being close checked by an experienced opponent in Langford who probably got chaired off by Burgoyne and Mitchell for his 10th game.
Langford has a good teacher in his father who was a a champion defender. One of the smartest footballing brains in football back then & today, Who could easily replace Demetriou & do it well. So l would expect nothing less from a 10 gamer who has everyone watching him claim scalps. But Cotchin body is not 100% as he takes a battering weekly. We need another Tuck type player to protect our mids & one of these lads like Arnot will deliver with game time
Agree
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Where is the old dog these days?
Still co-oaching Learmonth in the Central Highlands footy league.
Get it done, Tiges. :cheers
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Dylan has bought into the spin. Lol
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Tigers ready to run
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2014
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/round-6-grimes-postmatch
Although Richmond was well beaten by reigning premier Hawthorn at the MCG yesterday (Sunday), defender Dylan Grimes believes there were signs the Tigers had turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement.
“That was a focus of ours going into the game. There were patches where we did do it,” Grimes told ‘Roar Vision’.
“It showed that we’ve improved on recent weeks, and that’s something that we’ll really try and drive going into the Geelong game (next Sunday).”
“Our KPI’s were all red for us this week, so that was the most disappointing thing,” Grimes said.
“We didn’t play the way we wanted to play. Basically, they made us defend a lot of the time, which was very taxing on us . . .”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-28/tigers-ready-to-run
We've turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement? :huh :huh3
This is exactly the sort of crapp I am talking about, please give a rest
Stop treating us like morons
Right now we simply don't believe you RFC
I think you've got it wrong WP.
You think they are lying or talking spin but what's really happening here is the same crap that always happens at Richmond. They always believe there own hype and actually think they are better than they are.
The slowest team but actually think they are one of the fastest.
Play one final and think they are walking into the top four.
I think they are all blinded by tigeritis. It's like reverse anorexia. These blokes look in the mirror and see Schwarzenegger.
The coach and players are deluded.
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Tigers ready to run
richmondfc.com.au
April 28, 2014
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/round-6-grimes-postmatch
Although Richmond was well beaten by reigning premier Hawthorn at the MCG yesterday (Sunday), defender Dylan Grimes believes there were signs the Tigers had turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement.
“That was a focus of ours going into the game. There were patches where we did do it,” Grimes told ‘Roar Vision’.
“It showed that we’ve improved on recent weeks, and that’s something that we’ll really try and drive going into the Geelong game (next Sunday).”
“Our KPI’s were all red for us this week, so that was the most disappointing thing,” Grimes said.
“We didn’t play the way we wanted to play. Basically, they made us defend a lot of the time, which was very taxing on us . . .”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-28/tigers-ready-to-run
We've turned the corner in terms of quicker, more decisive ball movement? :huh :huh3
This is exactly the sort of crapp I am talking about, please give a rest
Stop treating us like morons
Right now we simply don't believe you RFC
I think you've got it wrong WP.
You think they are lying or talking spin but what's really happening here is the same crap that always happens at Richmond. They always believe there own hype and actually think they are better than they are.
The slowest team but actually think they are one of the fastest.
Play one final and think they are walking into the top four.
I think they are all blinded by tigeritis. It's like reverse anorexia. These blokes look in the mirror and see Schwarzenegger.
The coach and players are deluded.
yeh spin implies they know we are poo. Not sure they do.
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick & Clarkson)
10 Rioli (Haw)
7 Hodge (Haw)
5 McEvoy (Haw)
4 Mitchell (Haw)
2 Duryea (Haw)
1 Burgoyne (Haw)
1 Hale (Haw)
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