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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: the claw on April 22, 2014, 07:56:13 PM

Title: douglas bump
Post by: the claw on April 22, 2014, 07:56:13 PM
 cant believe they gave him 4 weeks. he did nothing wrong at all not a thing. if the bump was not already dead it really is now. the game just sucks it really does. so disappointed at how this game has gone in the last 20 or so yrs

Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 22, 2014, 08:04:58 PM
Shyte sport
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Simonator on April 22, 2014, 08:13:20 PM
I thought it was only 2 ? But I completely agree, he was within 5 m of the ball wasn't he ?! Soft and pathetic by the afl
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 22, 2014, 08:24:11 PM
I thought it was only 2 ? But I completely agree, he was within 5 m of the ball wasn't he ?! Soft and pathetic by the afl

He was given 4 and it was reduced to 2 because of his good record

Bottom line is Ward ended up with concussion and may not play this week. You bump at your own peril these days and if the bloke you bump ends up injured you're in big trouble.

Not a fan of the rule as it is now but they have been pretty consistent with it.

I'd debate whether it was within 5 metres. Reckon you could argue it was off the ball so throw that in the mix and even though Ward should have been aware it was coming; Douglas was always going to go. Main question was how many weeks

I always look at these things this way: What would we expect if it was a Richmond player who copped the bump? Would think there'd be a lot here who'd be saying 2 weeks isn't enough.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Chuck17 on April 22, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
Stuff numbers on the jumpers they should put them in skirts
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Mr Magic on April 23, 2014, 06:59:02 AM
Cowardly off the ball hits are fair game now or 20 years ago.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Smokey on April 23, 2014, 08:39:53 AM
My first reaction was that he would get 4 so I'm not surprised at all that he did.  It was much further than 5 mts off the ball, Ward wasn't involved directly in the play and shouldn't have been expecting contact in the position/situation he was in.  He ended up with concussion from an off the ball, unnecessary, full force contact.  Nothing to do with being a girl's sport, there is no place in the game for cheap shots off the ball - it's a far better sport than one that needs that crap to showcase it.  Weak as pee from Douglas and got what it deserved.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Chuck17 on April 23, 2014, 11:10:56 AM
You woos bags should play country footy, you take it and give it back twice as hard
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Smokey on April 23, 2014, 11:47:39 AM
Did Chuck, for 15 years at senior level back in the 70's & 80's when the game was much less scrutinized and far rougher so I know all about country football and taking hits off the ball.  I just don't think there is a place in the modern game for it any more.  We want our game to grow and be accepted in the wider community and that sort of thuggery sets it back with the NRL as a home for 'good old boys' who never grew a brain.  We don't need it to showcase the amazing skills and physical prowess that sets our game apart and it doesn't make the modern game any less tough or physical than it ever was.  Let the rugby codes wallow in the 'goonery' of the past while we allow the football to do the talking.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 26, 2014, 12:55:49 AM
You woos bags should play country footy, you take it and give it back twice as hard
Pretty hard to give it back twice as hard if you are concussed and don't know what day it is!
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 06, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
Shyte sport

Viney 2 weeks
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 08, 2014, 06:17:48 PM
If viney goes the game gone
Title: Viney Appeal Upheld
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 08, 2014, 06:47:37 PM
Sanity prevails

Appeals board throws out Tuesday nights stupidity

Appeal upheld, free to play  :clapping
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 08, 2014, 07:32:45 PM
The afl have refused to state WHY the two week viney ban was changed

WTF
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Chuck17 on May 08, 2014, 08:17:37 PM
Someone with balls took charge and said it was effn stupid
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Mr Magic on May 08, 2014, 08:22:17 PM
I'm over it.

Unless they explain why the eff he was suspended and why he then got off no one is any the wiser.

Game is in trouble when players have NFI how they are supposed to approach a contest.

Clear it up FFS.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 08, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
Sanity prevails and the essence of the game survives for a little longer albeit when the crowds start flocking back and the integrity of the sport has been established once more.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 08, 2014, 10:17:52 PM
I'm over it.

Unless they explain why the eff he was suspended and why he then got off no one is any the wiser.

Game is in trouble when players have NFI how they are supposed to approach a contest.

Clear it up FFS.

It's been reported that a statement relating to how they came to this decision will released in due course
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Diocletian on May 08, 2014, 11:02:32 PM
Just waiting for smasha to show up and tell us how they only upheld the appeal after realising he'd miss the match against Richmond.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: one-eyed on May 11, 2014, 08:08:47 PM
It'll all be about the 'bump' again this week as well.

(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/1105_bump_back_in_focus_5620.jpeg)
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Mr Magic on May 11, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
All I see are high tackles that deserve free kicks. The game is softening up by the minute. It's a contact sport FFS.
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 17, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
If hannery goes its a silly game
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2014, 02:11:52 AM
Sadly, accidents happen in footy including friendly fire.

Last night's collision between East Perth teammates Scott Lycett and Brant Colledge was one of the biggest hits in footy for a long time. Colledge out cold before he hit the ground and he could also have some sort of facial fracture. It happened in the last minute of the match as well.

VIDEO: https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=770711009683487
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 07:59:32 AM
Ballentine offered two weeks

LOL
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2014, 09:01:53 AM
Ballentine offered two weeks

LOL

What are you talking about?

He hasn't been offered anything, been referred straight to the Tribunal
Title: Ballantine's Finest Scotch Whisky Bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 09:12:43 AM
my understanding is the ticked the boxes and gave him two weeks (joke)

then they thought they got it wrong - so moved into on to the other mob cause its all abit tough

remantle coach Ross Lyon has been left confused after forward Hayden Ballantyne became the latest victim of the AFL’s crackdown on the new bump rule.
The Fremantle goal sneak was charged with engaging in Rough Conduct against Matthew Jaensch during the Dockers' win over Adelaide on Sunday and will go straight to the AFL tribunal, bypassing the normal Match Review Panel.
Lyon told 6PR's Sports Today program that the MRP had simply wiped its hands of the incident.
“They’ve certainly left it open to interpretation, the MRP (Match Review Panel) can be quite narrow, so they’ve put it in the too-hard basket," Lyon said.
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“I think the overall rule very confusing and grey, but I better leave it there. I don’t want to fork out twenty grand.”
Ballantyne has 87.5 carryover points after being suspended for two incidents in the Dockers' round five clash with Sydney.
It’s understood this would make it hard for the MRP to hand him anything less than a two-week ban if it had handled the case.
“The spirit of the game is about competing and it’s about intent, either malicious intent going the bump or going to compete. I would like to see similar events judged in the spirit of the game” Lyon said.
Ballantyne will stay in Perth for his initial tribunal case but if Fremantle isn’t happy with the outcome and elects to appeal, he is likely to travel to Melbourne for the appeal hearing.
It’s not just Ballantyne the Dockers have to worry about with defender Luke Mcpharlin suffering a  knee injury on the weekend as well.
Lyon told 6PR the Dockers were waiting on results of scans.
“It doesn’t look great but we’re going to see how he pulls up tomorrow [Tuesday] and we’ll update further," Lyon said.
“It’s a bit of an old injury, he’s got a bit of laxity in the knee and the knee’s a bit old”
The McPharlin blow comes with fellow key defender Michael Johnson already sidelined for a month with an injury to his medial ligament.
In some good news Anthony Morabito is getting close to his first game following three knee reconstructions.
He has impressed in the WAFL for East Fremantle but Lyon isn’t confirming his inclusion just yet.
“I went down to Shark Park and he was pretty impressive, it’s his best game he took a significant step…. it’s getting to the exciting stage there’s no doubt about that,” Lyon said


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ross-lyon-mrp-has-put-ballantyne-bump-in-toohard-basket-20140610-zs2bn.html#ixzz34BdG1oq3
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2014, 10:34:10 AM
Facts are he wasn't offered 2 weeks, he was sent straight to the Tribunal

The "why" is pure speculation, no one knows, the Age report is their take on why
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 10:38:48 AM
facts are he was given two weeks and then they moved it on to the next mob  :clapping
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
facts are he was given two weeks and then they moved it on to the next mob  :clapping


No facts are he was sent straight to the tribunal by the MRP as per their statement

Hayden Ballantyne, Fremantle, has been charged with engaging in rough conduct against Matthew Jaensch, Adelaide, during the fourth quarter of the round 12 match between Fremantle and Adelaide, played at Patersons Stadium on Sunday June 8, 2014. 
 
In summary, the matter has been directly referred to the Tribunal for its determination and he cannot accept an early plea on this matter.

From: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-09/mrp-full-statement-round-12

He wasn't offered anything

Can it be made any clearer for you?
Title: Re: douglas / Ballantyne bump
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 12:29:10 PM
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He wasn't offered anything

ja after the first mob counted their toes and came up with two weeks then passed the buck
Title: Re: douglas / Ballantyne bump
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
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He wasn't offered anything

ja after the first mob counted their toes and came up with two weeks then passed the buck

Please show me where in the MRP report, not the AGE, the MRP report does it say he was offered 2 weeks?

If you can't manage that then please enlighten me who the "first mob" are exactly?

The AGE has written an article speculating as to why the MRP didn't grade his bump. It doesn't come from the MRP report, they are giving an opinion (theirs) as to why. Massive difference

The MRP clearly states that he was sent straight to the tribunal = FACT
Title: Re: douglas bump
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 11, 2014, 07:31:25 AM
The Ballantyne bump should never have been referred to anyone in the first place. I watched the replay and couldn't believe he was sighted at all.
People in charge have lost total feel for the game.